Question Picture in Picture, Split Screen etc - Refresh Rate drops to 60Hz - Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

Looks like this is still an issue even for the S23 Ultra:
Picture in Picture, Split Screen etc - Refresh Rate drops to 60Hz (EXYNOS)
Hi there, I'd not noticed this before the Android 12 update, but refresh rate appears to drop from 120Hz to 60Hz when using Picture in Picture or Split Screen views. Can anyone else reproduce this please? You can confirm this by going into...
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"...refresh rate appears to drop from 120Hz to 60Hz when using Picture in Picture or Split Screen views"
Therefore seems like Samsung have made this a permanent change, and I can't understand why.

Try samsung galaxy maxhz, set constant high, meaning is always 120hz
[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Mods Change default refresh rates - Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates. - Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery...
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)

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About this app:
Refresh Rate Mods
Change default refresh rates
- Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates.
- Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery savings
- Set separate refresh rates for power saving mode and for low battery state [1]
- Quick settings shortcut
- Tasker plugin support
Refresh rate (motion smoothness) mode switcher(Normal, Adaptive or High)[2]
- Set you device motion smoothness mode to static refresh rates (high mode) for better smoothness if so desired
- Tasker plugin support
Per-app refresh rate settings:
-Set different refresh rate settings for every app either adaptive or static [1]
Keep selected refresh rate mode on power saving mode[1]
- On devices with One4 or lower, GMH will automatically apply a workaround to bypass 60Hz limit on Power Saving Mode.
- Need extra steps on OneUI5.* except when using magisk and lsposed(experimental). Test it first
Screen-off Mods:
Screen off/AOD refresh rate (Force to Lowest Hz)
- Force the lowest refresh rate on screen-off or Always-On Display(AOD)
- Tasker plugin support
- Select custom refresh rate for AOD/screen-off [1]
Auto apply power saving mode during screen-off [2]
Auto disable Autosync
Quick-doze mod
- Quickly enter doze mode (than usual) during screen-off that can not be interrupted by motion with customizable maintenance window interval [1][2]
- Tasker plugin support
Auto SENSORS OFF (non-root workaround)
- Device sensors will automatically turn off while screen is off until the device is unlocked to help minimize battery-draining motion-triggered wakelocks while device is not being used [premium]
- Tasker plug-in support
- Supports up to OneUI4.* only
Others
Battery protection mod
- Option to set maximum charge to 86%-95%(for OneUI4+) [1][2]
Quick resolution switcher
- Easily switch to any supported resolutions using the included quick setting tile[2]
- Tasker plugin support
Customizable refresh rate monitor
- Use statusbar or overlay which you can place anywhere on screen.
- Tasker plugin support
Animation mod
Net speed statusbar indicator
OneUI inspired UI.
[1] Enabled for premium users (with 2 days premium trial)
[2] These features require a one-time ADB procedure (this is not root)[/TD]
Info:
This app targets older android sdk in order to control refresh rates without ADB setup or root. Just tap OK the dialog that says "This app was built for an older version of Android...." when opened for the first time. If OK button is not visible, just tap the blank space on the lowest portion of the dialog. If google play protect prompts during install that the app is built for older version of android and doesn't include the latest privacy protections, you can ignore it and proceed to the installation. For privacy related concern, please refer to FAQ No. 3.
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WIll be interesting to see if this makes much of a difference. With the S21 touted as having dynamic refresh rate adjustment, it shouldn't be needed, in theory.
Corlan said:
WIll be interesting to see if this makes much of a difference. With the S21 touted as having dynamic refresh rate adjustment, it shouldn't be needed, in theory.
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You got the wrong theory.
It's not the first to have the adaptive refresh rate, note 20 ultra is. Been using this on note 20 ultra .
Though refresh rate is adaptive, phone is using the highest refresh rate (i.e. 120hz) atleast 80% of the time.
Setting the max to 96hz definitely consumes less battery than 120hz.
And this is not only what you can do with this app.
One question: us the 60hz also adaptive? Goes down to 10hz when not in use?
Goku1992 said:
One question: us the 60hz also adaptive? Goes down to 10hz when not in use?
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Sorry your question is not clear to me.
But if you are asking for smartphones with standard refresh rate (i.e. 60hz), I think they are all on a single 60hz refresh rate (i.e. fixed). I have not known any which can go lower than 60hz, moreso on the capability to go as low as 10hz. In fact, the S21 Ultra is the only smartphone capable to do so as of the moment.
tribalfs said:
Sorry your question is not clear to me.
But if you are asking for smartphones with standard refresh rate (i.e. 60hz), I think they are all on a single 60hz refresh rate (i.e. fixed). I have not known any which can go lower than 60hz, moreso on the capability to go as low as 10hz. In fact, the S21 Ultra is the only smartphone capable to do so as of the moment.
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Sorry. On the s21 ultra does the 60hz mode is also adaptive?
Goku1992 said:
Sorry. On the s21 ultra does the 60hz mode is also adaptive?
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Sorry I don't know yet.
But if we based it on the existing implementation of Samsung in Note 20 Ultra's "standard mode", it is not lowering down to 48hz (the lowest refresh rate it is capable) when the screen is idle or if it has static content or even when the screen is turned-off or in AOD.
If fact this is true even in Adaptive Mode - Samsung actually (and strangely) sets it to the highest refresh rate (120hz) when in AOD or when screen is off. Watch closely this video. This is the reason why this app includes a "Screen off refresh rate mod" to override this behavior.
Not sure though if this will be the same for S21 Ultra.
tribalfs said:
Sorry I don't know yet.
But if we based it on the existing implementation of Samsung in Note 20 Ultra's "standard mode", it is not lowering down to 48hz (the lowest refresh rate it is capable) when the screen is idle or if it has static content or even when the screen is turned-off or in AOD.
If fact this is true even in Adaptive Mode - Samsung actually (and strangely) sets it to the highest refresh rate (120hz) when in AOD or when screen is off. Watch closely this video. This is the reason why this app includes a "Screen off refresh rate mod" to override this behavior.
Not sure though if this will be the same for S21 Ultra.
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Mate i will try when i receive my s21 ultra. But logistic is busy there, should have received it yesterday... Hope tomorrow...
Goku1992 said:
Mate i will try when i receive my s21 ultra. But logistic is busy there, should have received it yesterday... Hope tomorrow...
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Thanks, mate. Will standby for your update.
I'm running into the following error while trying to set up the ADB on phone using my laptop:
adb: device unauthorized.
This adb server's $ADB_VENDOR_KEYS is not set
Try 'adb kill-server' if that seems wrong.
Otherwise check for a confirmation dialog on your device.
I didn't see any popup requesting permission on my phone. Any advice?
minhgurluver said:
I'm running into the following error while trying to set up the ADB on phone using my laptop:
adb: device unauthorized.
This adb server's $ADB_VENDOR_KEYS is not set
Try 'adb kill-server' if that seems wrong.
Otherwise check for a confirmation dialog on your device.
I didn't see any popup requesting permission on my phone. Any advice?
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Try to do the following:
Disconnect USB > Turn off USB debugging > Revoke USB debugging authorization > Turn-on USB debugging
You can then resume to procedures described here.
Sorry mate my phone havent arrived till now :/ eagerly waiting :/
Goku1992 said:
Sorry mate my phone havent arrived till now :/ eagerly waiting :/
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No worries, mate.
Take your time. It will arrive soon!
Ive ordered via Samsung.de... Dont know whats wrong... Support isnt good
adamlee2012 said:
Works on s21 ultra. I have 96hz set and it drops to 60 when you aren't touching the screen. Also the screen off mode could be improved. It drops to 48hz but lowest on s21 is 10hz.
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I'll check that.
Can you share screenshot of the app showing the upper portion?
If you disable screen off mode, what is the screen off refresh rate shown?
Thanks.
adamlee2012 said:
Works on s21 ultra. I have 96hz set and it drops to 60 when you aren't touching the screen. Also the screen off mode could be improved. It drops to 48hz but lowest on s21 is 10hz.
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tribalfs said:
I'll check that.
Can you share screenshot of the app showing the upper portion?
If you disable screen off mode, what is the screen off refresh rate shown?
Thanks.
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I have identical behavior so seems like its just s21ultra tweak needed in general.
(Limited it to 96hz for now though thank you!)
nxneko said:
I have identical behavior so seems like its just s21ultra tweak needed in general.
(Limited it to 96hz for now though thank you!)
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10hz is not enabled in the system.
nxneko said:
I have identical behavior so seems like its just s21ultra tweak needed in general.
(Limited it to 96hz for now though thank you!)
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Thank you for this ppst and also the upper post. Can you use 60hz and it is going down to 48? Sadly my ultra should have arrived one week ago but Samsung.de have big shipping problems so likely i must wait another week :/
adamlee2012 said:
Strange because it's claimed the lowest it can go is 10hz but can't find any details explaining when it uses 10hz.
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Think it will need an update. The note 20 uktra had the same problem at the begining and now it goes down to 48hz when you dont touch the screen
Goku1992 said:
Think it will need an update. The note 20 uktra had the same problem at the begining and now it goes down to 48hz when you dont touch the screen
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When its set to 60hz, it just stays there. Regardless of Adaptive or standard. When you re-apply adaptive mode, the app no longer allows 48hz as lowest refresh rate, only 60 as minimum when you set 96hz or 120hz as max refresh. I have not seen 48 outside of screen-off which is reporting at 48 when toggled instead of the 60hz s21u selects as its screen-off Hz.
You are not missing too much, as I hear the os release is still pre-release technically and full release OTAs are around corner. There are many display bugs still.

[Q] Force resolution to 120hz permanently

Do you know a method to permanently force resolution on 120hz ? Adaptive mode on OneUI 3.1 it doesn't allow this job
wolfgart said:
Do you know a method to permanently force resolution on 120hz ? Adaptive mode on OneUI 3.1 it doesn't allow this job
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sadly you can't this feature may be come for next flagship
sagarb said:
sadly you can't this feature may be come for next flagship
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Next flagship ? Why ? Next OTA maybe
wolfgart said:
Next flagship ? Why ? Next OTA maybe
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I thought same for n20ultra but till know it stayed in adaptive only.if you compare s20ultra always120hz.somtimes you feel lag while scrolling and not has smooth as always 120hz.
That's a shame for a Top like this
sagarb said:
I thought same for n20ultra but till know it stayed in adaptive only.if you compare s20ultra always120hz.somtimes you feel lag while scrolling and not has smooth as always 120hz.
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You can’t compare the S 21 display to the S 20 dispay. It is a different type of Display. The S 21 display may have an improved LTPO technology.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1354241875394220032
I believe that this app can help you with this.
[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Mods Change default refresh rates -Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates. -Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery...
forum.xda-developers.com
The phone never seems to go below 120 for me. Unless I open a game. Then it's a stuttering messy 60. It's better to open the game after setting the phone to 60 first.
(In using Show frame rate from developer settings)
Also Chrome browser stutters even tho it shows 120.

Enabling Adaptive or High Refresh Rate Modes on Galaxy Note 20

Anybody here would like to check this app and check if this will enable High or Adaptive refresh rate in Note 20.
I am just curious as I got the refresh rate profiles coming from SM-N980F containing both 120hz and 96hz.
Standard Mode
WQHD+(3088x1440)@60.0/48.0 hz
FHD+ (2316x1080)@60.0/48.0 hz
HD+ (1544x720)@60.0/48.0 hz
Adaptive Mode
WQHD+(3088x1440)@60.0/48.0 hz
FHD+ (2316x1080)@120.0/96.0/60.0/48.0 hz
HD+ (1544x720)@120.0/96.0/60.0/48.0 hz
High Mode
WQHD+(3088x1440)@60.0 hz
FHD+ (2316x1080)@120.0/96.0/60.0 hz
HD+ (1544x720)@120.0/96.0/60.0 hz
[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Mods Change default refresh rates -Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates. -Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery...
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Question LTPO 2.0 not working properly?

So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
Strange. My phone is working like it should. Shows 10 fps when the screen is not moving. Shows 120fps as I start moving. I also tested YouTube and videos show the correct fps. 30 fps and 60 fps depending on the video.
RedNas74 said:
Strange. My phone is working like it should. Shows 10 fps when the screen is not moving. Shows 120fps as I start moving. I also tested YouTube and videos show the correct fps. 30 fps and 60 fps depending on the video.
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Mines exactly the same
well Imma guess that it's something related to me importing my old backup, cause that messed up the AOD too (doesn't matter what I do, it won't turn on)
admirdante said:
Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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Is there any app that can adjust this per app? I also use some apps that only run at 60hz
admirdante said:
So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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In principle, the level of brightness that you have on influences, manual brightness, I think that from 80-85% brightness it goes from 5 to 1 in refresh rate. I put a capture.
Definitely to do with brightness
At lowest brightness on auto refresh rate, it seems to never drop below 120hz except in certain apps like maps where it'll go to 60hz.
But if I put brightness at about 30%, it can drop to 10hz.
So I wonder what's more battery efficient 0% brightness at 120hz or 30% brightness at 10hz
When in a dark environment, and forced into the 120Hz mode, the LTPO panel’s power consumption isn’t all that different from an LTPS panel ~180mW power penalty that is present at all times, even on a black static screen, because of 120 Hz. That penalty comes from the measured power, with 640 mW and 465 mW in the respective 120 and 60Hz modes. Under a brighter ambient conditions, the panel showcases its technology advantages, and power consumption drops drastically. In the 120Hz mode but with the minimum refresh rate now in the regular '48 Hz' setting, the power figure drops from 640mW to 428mW, which is a massive 220mW drop.
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The phone operating under dark conditions seems to disable the 'seamless' variable refresh rate display, that allows the phone to go into lower frequency modes, but not in all circumstances
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When it comes to the difference in the battery runtimes between running the phone in a dark or a bright environment, there are somewhat small difference. In the 60Hz maximum refresh mode, VRR/LFD gains the phone an additional 4% of battery life. In the 120Hz mode, we see a larger 8.5% jump in runtime.
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via https://www.oled-a.org/ltpo-phone-s...-to-extend-phone-battery-life-etc_070421.html
admirdante said:
So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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I am having this issue also. I get only 60Hz with Nova but using default launcher I get 120Hz and it is adaptive.
So far I setting entire device at 120Hz but would prefer if there was option to enable adaptive working with Nova
_zen_aku said:
I am having this issue also. I get only 60Hz with Nova but using default launcher I get 120Hz and it is adaptive.
So far I setting entire device at 120Hz but would prefer if there was option to enable adaptive working with Nova
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The problem is not that the GT2 PRO does not have an option to enable adaptive refresh rate with Nova, the problem is that Nova is not fully optimized with Android 12.
spiral5 said:
The problem is not that the GT2 PRO does not have an option to enable adaptive refresh rate with Nova, the problem is that Nova is not fully optimized with Android 12.
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It seems to be incorrect. In nova Discord, Administrator said Nova work well with LTPO 2.0 screen. And as far as I can see, all launcher I tested don't work with LTPO on realme GT 2 pro except default launcher...
Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
criszz said:
Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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How? Can you explain a bit more about that?
Look here, marked with red in set edit app. Ignore my mistake on cameră, i was in hurry
criszz said:
Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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It seem ok after reboot ! I don't know how you find this but good work. Thank you.
Edit : after few minutes nova go back to 60htz. System setting "peaking_refresh_rate" automatically go back to 60
Set your screen to 120 (High) in settings, and never change )
Will this just force 120hz or working LTPO for 3rd party apps?
Working ltpo, If You want only 120 enter same settings by adb.
Ok but what's exactly the point of your settings?
If I set 120hz always in settings, LTPO will also work and go down to 60-30-10hz if not touching the display
Lol, this is for apps with no 120hz support like camera, some browsers, other launchers, even some games

Question 120hz main screen bug

Hi,
I have the problem, that the refresh rate on the inner display keeps switching back to 60hz.
If I restart the phone unfolded und use it, the screen displays in 120hz. As soon as I close the device and use it again, scrolling is laggy and on 60hz (refresh rate in developer options still shows 120hz, but it's definitely 60hz).
The only way to make it work on 120hz again is rebooting unfolded, then it keeps on working again until it's folded again.
Can anyone confirm this too?

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