So I play a game that's called wordzee. Works fine on first start.. but If I move to a new app and come back to the game the frame rate is a stutter fest.
Even if I close and restart the game, it sometimes still stutters.
This also happens with Chrome browser. But on the browser, it happens immediately after I use Smart Select with the spen. The scrolling stutters. Only way to fix is to close and reopen.
Anyone with similar experience? Is it the 120hz to blame? (It almost looks like it goes below 60hz)
yes most games are locked to 60 fps
vandal4e said:
yes most games are locked to 60 fps
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What's weird is that if i put the phone in standard 60 then launch the game, it is a smooth 60. If the phone auto adjusted from 120 to 60... it is a janky 60. It's visually noticeable.
I'm also showing the frame rate from developer settings. The phone never dips below 120. Even on static images.
Guess I'm not sure how this adaptive refresh rate is actually supposed to work.
Do you think it would be possible to achieve variable refresh rate of Xperia 1 mark 3 screen?
I mean display instead of always running in 120Hz or 60Hz would run in 120Hz when scrolling and even in 1Hz or 10Hz when nothing moving on screen (for example reading or watching a picture).
That would help with battery life and reduce the heat.
We could select to always run in 120Hz or in hybrid mode.
Do you think software can do this?
I think it's possible if someone work with software or fw.
the real question is if Sony will work on that (probably not) or if modding community will work on that when and if TWRP or other rom will support Xperia 1 III.
Maybe (but this is just a big speculation) with the new android release google will support variable refresh rate inside Android
Unless the screen can run at those refresh rates, sony can't do anything. if the hardware is not capable, software/firmware can't do anything. My take on this is if our xperia 1 III had vrr screens, sony wouldve already implemented it in their android to take advantage of it. so therefore, our screens most likely aren't vrr and therefore stuck at 60 or 120hz.
as for the 40hz in game mode, the screen still runs at 60hz as per developer settings show refresh rate, so it only reduces the fps of the game, not the refresh rate of the screen.
I think probably we will get the "ProMotion" feature on an update. I hope sony does it.
What is ProMotion feature?
Since this device was released tbh we didn't receive any new feature/function or changes to better for our phone.
Apart from reducing cpu's clock speed to reduce abnormal extreme heating there are either feature removals (like Music - disablement of downloading metadata from Internet) or just security patches... Literally nothing. I still hope for vivid mode for better colors and many updates to camera (4k 60fps in main camera, 21:9 picture s in main camera, night mode, better quality as I noticed some blur on the edges + pics are too soft). Also hoping for better battery utilisation and maybe bring back super stamina mode.
And bring back sony Album and other xperia iconic apps :/
Sony Album can be side loaded from APK Mirror. I loaded it but deleted it because I saw no benefit...YMMV. I believe there are other "Sony" apps available there also.
Indeed it is available and still working, but we do not know for how long it will work, especially after new system updates. Like android 12, then 13 etc
So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
Strange. My phone is working like it should. Shows 10 fps when the screen is not moving. Shows 120fps as I start moving. I also tested YouTube and videos show the correct fps. 30 fps and 60 fps depending on the video.
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Strange. My phone is working like it should. Shows 10 fps when the screen is not moving. Shows 120fps as I start moving. I also tested YouTube and videos show the correct fps. 30 fps and 60 fps depending on the video.
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Mines exactly the same
well Imma guess that it's something related to me importing my old backup, cause that messed up the AOD too (doesn't matter what I do, it won't turn on)
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Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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Is there any app that can adjust this per app? I also use some apps that only run at 60hz
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So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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In principle, the level of brightness that you have on influences, manual brightness, I think that from 80-85% brightness it goes from 5 to 1 in refresh rate. I put a capture.
Definitely to do with brightness
At lowest brightness on auto refresh rate, it seems to never drop below 120hz except in certain apps like maps where it'll go to 60hz.
But if I put brightness at about 30%, it can drop to 10hz.
So I wonder what's more battery efficient 0% brightness at 120hz or 30% brightness at 10hz
When in a dark environment, and forced into the 120Hz mode, the LTPO panel’s power consumption isn’t all that different from an LTPS panel ~180mW power penalty that is present at all times, even on a black static screen, because of 120 Hz. That penalty comes from the measured power, with 640 mW and 465 mW in the respective 120 and 60Hz modes. Under a brighter ambient conditions, the panel showcases its technology advantages, and power consumption drops drastically. In the 120Hz mode but with the minimum refresh rate now in the regular '48 Hz' setting, the power figure drops from 640mW to 428mW, which is a massive 220mW drop.
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The phone operating under dark conditions seems to disable the 'seamless' variable refresh rate display, that allows the phone to go into lower frequency modes, but not in all circumstances
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When it comes to the difference in the battery runtimes between running the phone in a dark or a bright environment, there are somewhat small difference. In the 60Hz maximum refresh mode, VRR/LFD gains the phone an additional 4% of battery life. In the 120Hz mode, we see a larger 8.5% jump in runtime.
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via https://www.oled-a.org/ltpo-phone-s...-to-extend-phone-battery-life-etc_070421.html
admirdante said:
So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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I am having this issue also. I get only 60Hz with Nova but using default launcher I get 120Hz and it is adaptive.
So far I setting entire device at 120Hz but would prefer if there was option to enable adaptive working with Nova
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I am having this issue also. I get only 60Hz with Nova but using default launcher I get 120Hz and it is adaptive.
So far I setting entire device at 120Hz but would prefer if there was option to enable adaptive working with Nova
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The problem is not that the GT2 PRO does not have an option to enable adaptive refresh rate with Nova, the problem is that Nova is not fully optimized with Android 12.
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The problem is not that the GT2 PRO does not have an option to enable adaptive refresh rate with Nova, the problem is that Nova is not fully optimized with Android 12.
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It seems to be incorrect. In nova Discord, Administrator said Nova work well with LTPO 2.0 screen. And as far as I can see, all launcher I tested don't work with LTPO on realme GT 2 pro except default launcher...
Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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How? Can you explain a bit more about that?
Look here, marked with red in set edit app. Ignore my mistake on cameră, i was in hurry
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Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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It seem ok after reboot ! I don't know how you find this but good work. Thank you.
Edit : after few minutes nova go back to 60htz. System setting "peaking_refresh_rate" automatically go back to 60
Set your screen to 120 (High) in settings, and never change )
Will this just force 120hz or working LTPO for 3rd party apps?
Working ltpo, If You want only 120 enter same settings by adb.
Ok but what's exactly the point of your settings?
If I set 120hz always in settings, LTPO will also work and go down to 60-30-10hz if not touching the display
Lol, this is for apps with no 120hz support like camera, some browsers, other launchers, even some games
What is the expected behaviour at "120hz" mode in Zenfone 9? Is it supposed to be 120hz all the time, or fall to 60hz when screen is idle?
In my case it's 120hz all the time in "120hz" mode (except in very few apps such as maps and camera where its always 60hz) but I've seen some users report their one will eventually drop to 60hz when screen is not touched for a second or two.
You can enable "show refresh rate" in developer options and check for yourself
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You can enable "show refresh rate" in developer options and check for yourself
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Windoors said:
In my case it's 120hz all the time in "120hz" mode (except in very few apps such as maps and camera where its always 60hz) but I've seen some users report their one will eventually drop to 60hz when screen is not touched for a second or two.
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I've already checked it.
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I've already checked it.
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oh sorry i misunderstood. I can confirm on maps and camera it switches to 60hz.
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oh sorry i misunderstood. I can confirm on maps and camera it switches to 60hz.
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same here, but everywhere else does your one fall to 60hz when screen isn't touched? or does it remain 120hz?
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same here, but everywhere else does your one fall to 60hz when screen isn't touched? or does it remain 120hz?
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yes it also does that. Try the high performance mode, maybe 120hz is constant there
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yes it also does that. Try the high performance mode, maybe 120hz is constant there
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I'm using dynamic and yet it's 120hz constant.
I'm getting a similar thing, just after the most recent OTA update I think.
I keep it on Dynamic mode with my refresh rate set to 120Hz in the display settings. Sometimes it drops down to 60Hz (or even lower? not tried dev tools yet for checking the actual refresh rate) and looks really choppy. If I switch between High performance and Dynamic sometimes it seems to fix itself.
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I'm getting a similar thing, just after the most recent OTA update I think.
I keep it on Dynamic mode with my refresh rate set to 120Hz in the display settings. Sometimes it drops down to 60Hz (or even lower? not tried dev tools yet for checking the actual refresh rate) and looks really choppy. If I switch between High performance and Dynamic sometimes it seems to fix itself.
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What I found is that when brightness is high (70s or more) it will drop to 60hz when screen not touched. But below it it's always 120hz. I'm using dynamic mode. I found it to behave same in high performance mode too. Can you please confirm?
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What I found is that when brightness is high (70s or more) it will drop to 60hz when screen not touched. But below it it's always 120hz. I'm using dynamic mode. I found it to behave same in high performance mode too. Can you please confirm?
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I switched on the refresh rate in developer mode and I can confirm I'm getting the same thing as you're saying here. It goes to 60Hz after being on high brightness and not being touched for a while (doesn't seem consistent as to how long it takes though). I've had it happen and both dynamic and high-performance modes as you say.
Looks like this is still an issue even for the S23 Ultra:
Picture in Picture, Split Screen etc - Refresh Rate drops to 60Hz (EXYNOS)
Hi there, I'd not noticed this before the Android 12 update, but refresh rate appears to drop from 120Hz to 60Hz when using Picture in Picture or Split Screen views. Can anyone else reproduce this please? You can confirm this by going into...
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"...refresh rate appears to drop from 120Hz to 60Hz when using Picture in Picture or Split Screen views"
Therefore seems like Samsung have made this a permanent change, and I can't understand why.
Try samsung galaxy maxhz, set constant high, meaning is always 120hz
[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Mods Change default refresh rates - Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates. - Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery...
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