It seems like pro1x came already rooted (at least some apps are saying so). Some apps are warning about security issues related to it. I think it deserves to be in FAQ just because the initial state of the phone seems to be not optimized for security then. Should we unroot pro1x to improve security?
Question assumes we are running LOS, not sure if it's related
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So i looked up a few ROMS from the sticky'd post on this forum and I am trying to decide which one is for me. Some provide a better description than others but at the end of the day I cannot figure out what I am really gaining and what I am losing.
I have a basic understanding of ROMs (or firmware or whatever people want to call them), but what it comes down to is a new operating system. My biggest question is what will I be losing? Right now my Nexus 10 is rooted but running google's standard os.What if I were to install Cyanogenmod 10 or any of the other roms. How does this affect my apps.
I have titanium back up installed so I can just back up all my apps and settings, but what user experience do I lose versus what is pre installed? How does Titanium back up work?
I know for cyanogenmod it says that there is no pre installed google related things. So I am assuming you will not be asked to set up your google account/wifi/language all that usual stuff google asks of you when you newly flash the memory, but what else do I lose?
Do some apps not work?
Does it mean I just simply have to reinstall everything?
Sorry I know this is a lot, but I am just questioning whether flashing a new rom is really worth it or is it intended more for older devices that do not receive the support of new firmware updates.
Newer ROM's and Kernels usually have more updated fixes and performance increases in comparison to stock. For example, franco.Kernel has a different throttling code, which helps out very nicely (goes to 1GHz in 1 step if the device is hot, and then down to 700MHz if it gets even hotter; no memory downclocking). Stock would downclock the CPU in increments of 100MHz, then spike it back to 1.7GHz, on top of also downing the clocks for GPU and memory. The difference in throttling can easily be seen in some high-end games like NFS:MW, which would slideshow on stock because of the aggressive throttling. franco.Kernel also has some fixes for the graphics and an updated WiFi driver.
But then again, what I just mentioned is mostly in relation to the kernel lol... I currently use rasbeanjelly because I like the dark theming (other ROM's have theming support though), but mostly because it's a stripped down AOSP build, that is very responsive I used to use CM10.1 nightlies before mostly because I liked being up-to-date (and nightlies come once a day with updates).
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So i looked up a few ROMS from the sticky'd post on this forum and I am trying to decide which one is for me. Some provide a better description than others but at the end of the day I cannot figure out what I am really gaining and what I am losing.
I have a basic understanding of ROMs (or firmware or whatever people want to call them), but what it comes down to is a new operating system. My biggest question is what will I be losing? Right now my Nexus 10 is rooted but running google's standard os.What if I were to install Cyanogenmod 10 or any of the other roms. How does this affect my apps.
I have titanium back up installed so I can just back up all my apps and settings, but what user experience do I lose versus what is pre installed? How does Titanium back up work?
I know for cyanogenmod it says that there is no pre installed google related things. So I am assuming you will not be asked to set up your google account/wifi/language all that usual stuff google asks of you when you newly flash the memory, but what else do I lose?
Do some apps not work?
Does it mean I just simply have to reinstall everything?
Sorry I know this is a lot, but I am just questioning whether flashing a new rom is really worth it or is it intended more for older devices that do not receive the support of new firmware updates.
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1. Like you said you have titanium back up installed, so as long as you backup all your user apps before flashing your apps, they will not be effected. (I have no clue how titanium backup works but it does)
2.Because of (I think copy rights) no ASOP will come with google apps ( Like google maps) but each ROM thread will direct you to a GAPPS download (which stands for Goggle APPS). You will just need to flash that ZIP after you flash your rom and BOOM you have all your google apps. You can still log into your google account at the startup, which has all your saved wifi's all your apps that you purchased on the PLAY store, all info in the calendar, etc. All in all you will lose virtual nothing after you restore your apps via titanium backup
3. Will you have to re install everything. Short answer yes, long answer no. After you restore via titanium backup, your apps will be just like they were before you flashed your new shiny ROM. But you will have to reorganize your homescreen, and redo your settings.
4. What will you gain? Well that all depends on what ROM you decided to go with it. That's what so great about ROMS and the Developers here, they provide you with so many different features. Like the guy above said, a new kernel can help with lag issues, or a new ROM can actually give you a tablet UI. Some of the benefits will be "under the hood" and you might not even notice them. There are many different features ( I recommond trying all the ROMS!)
5. I never had an User app not work because of a ROM
If you have anymore questions just ask!
(If I got anything wrong on here please correct me!)
For homescreens
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3. Will you have to re install everything. Short answer yes, long answer no. After you restore via titanium backup, your apps will be just like they were before you flashed your new shiny ROM. But you will have to reorganize your homescreen, and redo your settings.
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Or you could use Nova launcher and just restore your backed up homescreens and settings.
Paranoidandroid to fix the dumb center buttons and move it back to the sides
That alone is worth an aftermarket rom
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Hello,
I have been using Touchwiz for quite a while now, but the lag and stuttering are completely annoying. I want to try CyanogenMod 10.2 but I am concerned about its security? Does it have any security issues which might cause data stealing?
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CyanogenMod is as secure as the official firmware and may even have better/faster security updates. It is rooted which means apps can have more access to the system files than your current firmware with touchwiz, which is why they say rooted phones can be less secure. When any program asks for root/better access to your phone a superuser program comes up where you can allow or deny access, so the reality is it it not really insecure,
that cbsesa
I'd say its safe haven't had any problems as of yet. Add that to the fact of better performance I'd say go for it. The only two things I miss on a Sammy ROM is the camera application and the FM radio
Hi guys, I'm coming from a display broken S7 edge
Got this phone yesterday, so far it has been a nice experience
for the ones who already rooted, is worth rooting? Worth changing stock ROM? Seems stable to me but I wanna know if it really improves with root and another ROM.
also, does this have a step counter?
Thanks in advance
Depends on personal user experience...some may prefer stock over anything...but in case of poco performance is better in miui compared to custom rom...in terms of features, 60 fps video can be enabled on custom rom and not on stock miui...
It depends on your use case i suppose. Even if you were to use MIUI, you might want root for a system level adblocker. If you are not using any apps that have ads in the first place, and while xposed is not supported under pie, and you have no need of things like Magisk (Youtube adblocking, Gapps Force Doze, ANX Camera...), then i suppose you don't have a great need of root.
Well, atleast until the Whatapp ads happen. They are coming
Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot
The fact that you are asking if it's worth rooting tells me that you are better off not rooting as your usage does not need root. For you probably is better to stay stock and non rooted.
I have been rooting my device for a long time. First it was SuperSu and now Magisk. At the beginning, I used to root just to mess with the device. Then I was used to Titanium backup and a few rooted apps. With the release of Magisk, rooting was a must for me for amazing modules like Viper FX, systemless busybox, fonts etc. Just a few days ago, I thought of giving a try without root to see how important it is in my life. So I vlean flashed stock rom and locked BL. Now after a couple of days usage without root, I find my device more responsive and fluid than it was with Magisk (because of the way Magisk works). I definitely miss ViperFX, sysyemless fonts etc. But it's not like I can't live without it. Most importantly, Android has come a long way. There are a lot of apps getting released everyday which are decreasing the needs of rooting. And some apps even work with ADB access. Of course, this is my personal opinion. Your experience may vary.
Try NetGuard for blocking ads without root
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Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot
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NetGuard is a firewall which can run even on non-rooted phones and can block any incoming or outgoing connection request from the phone on a per app / per domain basis.
I have been using NetGuard since day 1 on my poco and it's been an amazing experience! Zero ads but what's even more important to me - a sense of privacy since I block most of the outgoing MIUI analytics and tracking connection requests.
Also, the app is free but I have got the paid version for extra features as well as supporting the dev.
You can try out the app from either the f-droid build (https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.netguard/) or GitHub (https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard). There was also a discussion page right here on XDA, if you want to check out.
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Thank you both for your answers, ads are really annoying to me. Don't know if there would be any solution without the need to root. This would've the first time I haven't rooted my personal phone, but the ads thibg surely matters a lot[/QUOTE
Use adguard app, It's been the best for me. I installed it on the day 1 when I got this phone. Infact installing YouTube vanced and adguard is the first thing I do in a new phone.
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I'm not keen on all the clutter with MIUI, so I've been meaning to try another ROM for a while but after upgrading to MIUI 11.0.2 it's got much worse and even with just a bit of twitter and email usage from time to time it needs charging by early evening, so I think I'll definitely need to change ROM quite soon.
I've attached some screenshots from Amplify in case they show anything that I could try in the meantime (it's always difficult to find the time to switch ROM and have to spend hours getting apps all set up and working again, so I don't know when I'll get round to that). Most of the high occurrence stuff is under Unknown, so I don't know if it's safe to limit them but I'm not even sure about the Wakelocks it says are safe to limit, GCoreFlp and SyncLoopWakeLock and what side-effects their might be from limiting them (not that I can without paying to upgrade to Pro, which there's no point doing if it's not going to help and I'm going to just have to switch ROM to improve the battery life).
What ROM would you recommend? Obviously low battery drain, stability and the standard features working (e.g. dual SIM, fingerprint, etc.) is important but there's a few other things I'd like to have if possible.
1. Ability to use a alpha-numeric decryption code. I know how to set the decryption code via the terminal so that it's different from the unlock code but the MIUI ROM only seems to allow you to enter a numeric code at boot to decrypt.
2. Call/SMS blocklist, Dual apps and Second space are all quite handy features in MIUI that it would be nice to have too.
I'm not that bothered about updates as it's a pain if you have to reset and reinstall apps after flashing them and even with OTA updates that don't require any app reinstallation there's always a chance they break something or cause problems (like MIUI 11 has with the battery life) , so if I've got a good, stable ROM installed I doubt I'll update it, at least not very regularly.
I'm expecting my 10T to arrive shortly (upgrading from the OP5). In the past I've always rooted my phone, with AdAway and the ability to do full app + data backups being the main things I still use root for.
With the 10T I'm not sure I can be bothered with the extra hassle of being rooted (potential issues during upgrade, potential for GPay and the like to stop working).
It's been so long since I've had to migrate to a new phone, I've no idea how good the data transfer is between phones (specifically app saved data that the app won't export/save to the cloud) - does anyone have any experience of these tools?
One of the issues with potentially wanting to root later is wiping everything to unlock the bootloader. Are there any issues with unlocking this straight away, but not rooting? Does having an unlocked bootloader cause certain ( eg banking etc) apps to not work or is there zero issues with doing this?
Most people usually just unlock and don't root for that reason. There's no downfall to doing that, benefit is u will already have it unlocked if u want to root later.
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I'm expecting my 10T to arrive shortly (upgrading from the OP5). In the past I've always rooted my phone, with AdAway and the ability to do full app + data backups being the main things I still use root for.
With the 10T I'm not sure I can be bothered with the extra hassle of being rooted (potential issues during upgrade, potential for GPay and the like to stop working).
It's been so long since I've had to migrate to a new phone, I've no idea how good the data transfer is between phones (specifically app saved data that the app won't export/save to the cloud) - does anyone have any experience of these tools?
One of the issues with potentially wanting to root later is wiping everything to unlock the bootloader. Are there any issues with unlocking this straight away, but not rooting? Does having an unlocked bootloader cause certain ( eg banking etc) apps to not work or is there zero issues with doing this?
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For data switching, there are things built in OnePlus. Rooting and unlocking BL is perfectly normal as i am one of those users of op10t fully rooted. Having said that, some users have reported a few banking apps detecting root and causing issues. For me, i haven't faced it.
For the other points which you have mentioned, I use gpay, upgrade software (there are ways and means to do everything and you need to learn, adapt).
The most primary purpose for me to root, unlock, remains custom ROMs which is a complete negative at this moment - thanks mainly to OP, changes in stock Android etc. Still I prefer to stay rooted, if that answers your question
Thanks guys.
Unlocked it will be.
I don't doubt there will always be ways round things, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra effort for me personally.
Gpay and banking apps should work fine, maybe you only need to flash Universal Safety Net Fix. But if you want to watch netflix or any other streaming services it won't work.
Yes, unlocking the bootloader is a good start on XDA!
But, as mentioned Netflix, etc. will not work...
So reading a bit more, it sounds like unlocking the bootloader (and nothing else) will fail cts profile match.
Does failing CTS mean Google Wallet will not work?