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Hey All:
I was on the pdaPhone Home forum
( http://pdaphonehome.com/forums ) and I found this reply to a post I had made about the SD slot. It sounds like a challenge to the XDA developers to me! If anyone can do anything, it is you guys!!!
Here it is:
[The SD slot is]
more than you think it is. [I am]
new to this board, but I can tell you two things I know for certain.
One, the SD slot is not SD/IO directly, however.....
Viewtake does offer a camera than plugs into the SD slot of these phones and works very well. Takes decent pictures, with several options of picture size and type, will take 8fps video, and comes with a nice software suite. I know because I have one. Anyone who would like pics of or from it just need to ask.
Two, I happen to be a security systems installer (actual Security systems, not software or computer based) and one of the places I installed a system, I happen to get the chance to speak with someone who is part of the top eschelon of the windows mobile solutions development team. This person seemed to enjoy chatting with me about the OS and the products. In talking about the PPC PE I was told that, although nothing could be confirmed (non-disclosure agreements), that I would be VERY surprised what the SD slot on the PPC PE was capable of. I do believe that more can be done with it than is thought. Has ANYONE actually tried the install of any SD/IO devices like a Bluetooth or 802.11b SD Card?
if i were you i'd try to do a search on the subject
and you'll get plenty of useful posts
also there are many posts about cams which works for xda in the Accessories forum
of cause it's possible to make many many things which today needs sdio using just a normal sd connector
a sd connector works for ram
if a sd card have some flash apart from the stuff which take care of it's function
and both the device and the sd's non mem part have access to that mem
they can communicate writing in some files in the mem part of the sdcard
but since pretty much all new devices today come with SD IO
i doubt there is a big market for those devices which is also more complex to make then a normal SDIO which is a descriped std
we have seen bluetooth headsets which works for xda
but it's a bit of a cheat since it goes into the headset connector
and just make the analog signal bluetooth to the headset
this mean you cant use anything else then the headset
pretty much everything is possible but when there is lots of work involved and not a pile of coins in the end people dont really line up to get involved
Easily done withour SD/IO
A camera for xda could easily be developed without requiring anything special from the SD slot.
If the camera were fully self contained with the ability to write to flash mem that is also addressible from the device as a standard SD card would be... all the camera is doing is saving to sd, and the xda is reading from sd the files that the camera saved.
Pretty simple... the tricks are on the camera, not the xda.
Josh
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Since there's a lot of new people asking about 4gb MiniSD Cards, I figured I might as well start a new thread with places that people have purchased 4gb cards from, and had full success with, myself included.
http://www.emartbuy.co.uk/products.php?prodtypeid=20&memoryType=Mini+SD#product-450
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZblownQ2dz
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_001
Now, on the other thread, it was mentioned about SDHC which stands for SD High Capacity, does -NOT- work with the Wizards at all. These you do need to steer clear of, however, one of the card from the above retail points, do work and have been tested in real world situations and real world Wizards, by very much real people, like me. So buy from these places, if anyone else has a successful purchase, please post where you got it from, otherwise, please leave clarifications to private message. Wanna keep the thread simple and clean. Can we please get a sticky on this and I'll step in to maintain please?
Thanks, enjoy the Wizard.
-EDIT: Since I noticed there are quite a few people yelling up and down that 4gb MiniSDs do not exist, I have posted a picture of my card, OVER the 2gb 1907mb (formatted), and 2048mb (what windows sees 2GB as), limit on my Wizard. Now kindly, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD SAYING THAT 3 OF US ARE LIARS. Oh, and if you have a working 4gb card over the 2048mb mark, please take a screenshot with Screen Capture Utility, and post it here with a link, just to reaffirm that we're not crazy.
In that second link, the ebay seller....if you look at the image of the 4gig mem card, you can tell that the 4. is photoshopped. Wouldnt seem necessary if it was real, so why the fake picture? Are these really 2 gig mem cards that ppl have said are hacked to act like 4 gig cards that have a shorter life?
The Sandisk website shows 4 gb sd cards of different flavors...
Including mini sd cards
somebody7 said:
In that second link, the ebay seller....if you look at the image of the 4gig mem card, you can tell that the 4. is photoshopped. Wouldnt seem necessary if it was real, so why the fake picture? Are these really 2 gig mem cards that ppl have said are hacked to act like 4 gig cards that have a shorter life?
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I bought, i've had it about 2 weeks without a single problem already, using over 2gb of space. And the card when you get it actually doesn't have any printing on it at all, and has barely any marking on the bottom side, just a serial and some manufacturing code. I can take a picture if somebody wants.
CyberDad said:
The Sandisk website shows 4 gb sd cards of different flavors...
Including mini sd cards
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The 4gb miniSDs featured on their site are SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) or something like that, and those are INCOMPATIBLE with Wizards or any other device on the market for that matter, cept recent devices within the past, say, 6 months.
SDHC is just a FAT32 card, they work perfectly well with a Wizard... You can't get more than 2GB on FAT16.
Dude, I plugged one of these (Transcend 4GB SDHC) into my Cingular 8125 and it didn't even know it was there. It appears that Cynagen is right.
My Wizard didn't even detect the my 2GB card untill I did s soft reset, they are very picky about picking up anything in the miniSD slot.
Tyr said:
My Wizard didn't even detect the my 2GB card untill I did s soft reset, they are very picky about picking up anything in the miniSD slot.
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so where is a place where we can buy them that we wont get ripped off.
Well, I really only know of http://www.mobymemory.com/ but don't know what countries they ship to. I normally wait till new media appear on somewhere like expansys as they are reputable and reliable.
www.expansys.com
There are real 4GB cards out there but it is hard to tell if you are being ripped off or not...
i got mine from mobymemory, too. i got it within a 1 week after ordering (to germany) and it works perfectly in my wizard. it is quite slow though. at least i have 4gigs now.
Sounds good, I am really tempted at that price... Payed exactly that for my 2GB card about six months ago.
I have one on the way after ordering a SDHC from MemorySuppliers. I wound up ordering one from an ebayer called Quality Rams. $89 no shipping charge.
According to Memory Suppliers the Transend Card they sell another non SDHC card that will work priced at $79
Hey all, now I know jack stick when it comes to these devices, I've only recently bought it! I have the XDA Mini S (9100 as far as I know? Correct me if I'm wrong), and I bought a 4gb card off ebay for £32 from the USA, think it was about £25 without postage - ie, very cheap.
It works when connected to my pc, my friends XDA IIs, and my maths tutors XDA IIs (with the MiniSD to SD adaptor), however my Mini S doesn't like it. I managed to access it once, but now it just doesn't seem to know it's there, are there any tips on what I can do to get it working? I updated the firmware off the o2 site, I'm running:
ROM - 2.21.4.1 WWE ?
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
(whatever that means )
Any tips on how I can get it working would be great. Thanks , Dom.
Dommo said:
Hey all, now I know jack stick when it comes to these devices, I've only recently bought it! I have the XDA Mini S (9100 as far as I know? Correct me if I'm wrong), and I bought a 4gb card off ebay for £32 from the USA, think it was about £25 without postage - ie, very cheap.
It works when connected to my pc, my friends XDA IIs, and my maths tutors XDA IIs (with the MiniSD to SD adaptor), however my Mini S doesn't like it. I managed to access it once, but now it just doesn't seem to know it's there, are there any tips on what I can do to get it working? I updated the firmware off the o2 site, I'm running:
ROM - 2.21.4.1 WWE ?
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
(whatever that means )
Any tips on how I can get it working would be great. Thanks , Dom.
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Yeah, try formatting the cards. I just received my two 4 GB Mini SD from mobymemory.com and when I tried to use them into my device, they won't recognize it but after formatting them it worked perfectly. I've read people complaining about speed but I'm happy with the speed as well.
I'm using one on my Universal and the other on Wizard.
I tried that and it still doesn't seem to work
I just tried putting it in then doing a soft reset. I need to try someone elses minisd card, to make sure it's not my device at fault. Would be a bummer if it is my card slot that's duffed!
I'll have a test of someone elses when I can find someone with a minisd card and let you know!
Thanks for the advice so far, Dom
Update on Quality Rams
They sent me the wrong card. I received a HC card, enen though their eBay add specifically said it was for the Cingular 8125. I got this tip directly from the forum on the HTC site.
They gave me no hassle in accepting a return.
Carrying on from before, the 4gb card works fine in my mates phone (Nokia 6280), and his memory card works perfectly in my 9100. So there must be a problem with my firmware being unable to recognise the 4gb card. Any ideas what firmware I can try? (stock is o2 XDA Mini S firmware, with the above - four posts up - version)
What firmware are you using KarmaNP?
Thanks.
Dommo said:
Carrying on from before, the 4gb card works fine in my mates phone (Nokia 6280), and his memory card works perfectly in my 9100. So there must be a problem with my firmware being unable to recognise the 4gb card. Any ideas what firmware I can try? (stock is o2 XDA Mini S firmware, with the above - four posts up - version)
What firmware are you using KarmaNP?
Thanks.
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I'm currently using Faria's latest 3.3 on my wizard with 2.47 radio and
Helmi's CB on my Universal with 1.14 radio.
Hope this helps
I just downloaded the 8mb pool rom from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
Ran the romupdateutility
ROM version is still 2.21.4.1 WWE
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
the ExtROM version has disappeared. So everything except ExtROM is the same?
Am I missing something blindingly obvious to people in the know or is there a problem? When I ran farias romupdateutility it showed that it was v3.3, but on the screen showing which firmware it will update from and to, it said v1.2 (from), and blank (to)? Is this the problem? I also tried to update to Radio version 2.47, and that didn't work at all, it had the blank update to, thing, again, and the phone turned off as the percentage screen appeared, and I had to remove the battery to get it back up and running. I feel so stupid!
And finally. Sorry if these are really dumb questions, I know how annoying newbies and their dumb questions are!
PS - memory card is still not recognised.
Dommo said:
Hey all, now I know jack stick when it comes to these devices, I've only recently bought it! I have the XDA Mini S (9100 as far as I know? Correct me if I'm wrong), and I bought a 4gb card off ebay for £32 from the USA, think it was about £25 without postage - ie, very cheap.
It works when connected to my pc, my friends XDA IIs, and my maths tutors XDA IIs (with the MiniSD to SD adaptor), however my Mini S doesn't like it. I managed to access it once, but now it just doesn't seem to know it's there, are there any tips on what I can do to get it working? I updated the firmware off the o2 site, I'm running:
ROM - 2.21.4.1 WWE ?
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
(whatever that means )
Any tips on how I can get it working would be great. Thanks , Dom.
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try installing wmstorage, insert your 4gb card, open wmstorage select sd card and activate, now connect your device to pc as a mass storage device and format there the drive once it is recognized. format it as fat32 with 512byte cluster and sector size..
I've been looking at getting a bluetooth GPS receiver for my Wizard for a while now, but I haven't been able to find anything that I really want to buy. I know there are several other topics on GPS in the forum, but all the solutions suggested seem to be American websites (or at least all priced in dollars) and being from the UK this isn't much help. I've stumbled across a receiver/software bundle on a site, and it's very cheap, but I'm not sure if it will be any good or even if I can use it with my wizard as the card provided is SD. Is it possible to copy the files to the miniSD in the Wizard and still work?
The link is here, and if someone could take a look and let me know if they think it is ok, or if someone's tried it, please let me know!
Thanks,
Myk
P.S. I don't want to know if this receiver/software is any good compared to £300 systems or even what the best GPS combo is, because I'm not interested in spending that kind of money yet. I just wanna know if this will work fairly reliably so I can get a cheap GPS set-up to test how useful I find it before I spend loads on one
I just bought my first GPS unit and it is and it was under a hundred dollars US.....and I feel that it is acurate as can be.....so from what i've read about that unit it seems it will be just fine for you t use for quite awhile....Plus you will be able to use it with any new phone you get...
Software activation...
Ok, so I bought the receiver I mentioned. Since the software comes on an SD card, and the wizard only takes miniSD cards, I copied everything across and the program installed fine. But then when I try to run it, it asks me to insert the original SD card to activate the software.
Does anyone know of a workaround for this? I can use some other software (possibly) with the receiver if I can't get it to work, but it's not as good as the Navman software seems to be.
Hi,
I have installed WM6 on my Qtek 8500. Is it possible to use SDHC 8GB microSD on it?
/JR
If you have one, try it out and see. Let us know if it works!
I tried my 4G card and it didn't work
Oh well. At least we know the answer to that question, the 3125/Startrek doesn't have SDHC hardware.
Jozer99 said:
Oh well. At least we know the answer to that question, the 3125/Startrek doesn't have SDHC hardware.
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hardware isnt problem. you need new MicroSD-card driver
...and are the drivers available? Current WM6 devices all support SDHC.
Erofich said:
hardware isnt problem. you need new MicroSD-card driver
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@JesperRas,
As Erofich notes, the many people have gotten SDHC to work on WM6 ROMs that didn't initially support SDHC by installing the right driver. See the following thread for a .cab file download that worked on many devices:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310456&page=4
I think the original device this driver came from may have been a PocketPC, but I recall in the thread that it worked in some Smartphones too. The cab file was even reported to work on some WM5 devices, so I tried it on my WM5 StarTrek, but no workee. However, I think this is worth another try now that we have WM6 on the StarTrek (thanks Erofich, and everyone else who worked on this - you rock!). I have no idea if it is the "right" driver or not, but maybe worth a try. So, anybody feel brave today and want to try this one? I haven't had time to flash WM6 yet (gonna get to that soon), but if anyone gives this a try, please let us know how it goes!
When the cab file didn't work on my WM5 StarTrek, it also removed regular microSD from being seen. But I just uninstalled the cab and restarted the phone and regular microSD came back. So probably not a lot of risk to try this, but who knows...?
If anyone wants to try a ROM w/SDHC support, let me know. I don't have any MicroSDHC cards to try.
GnatGoSplat said:
If anyone wants to try a ROM w/SDHC support, let me know. I don't have any MicroSDHC cards to try.
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i'll be a guinea pig for the sdhc test, GnatGoSplat. it's been fun to be able to do something with this phone again. it's been collecting dust since i picked up my kaiser.
I'll whip one up tonight.
I'd be happy to test it in a couple of days aswell, i've got a 6gb microsdhc in my kaiser and I've just bought one of these phones of expansys for £69.95!!! great value if you ask me, especially for just carrying for work when i don't need all the functions of my kaiser but still like to have winmo. anyway first thing i'm doing when it arrives (should be friday hopefully) is cid unlock and winmo 6 so might aswell kill 2 birds with one stone and test this aswell if you want
DTMc
Here's a first effort:
http://rapidshare.com/files/93338388/sdhc_test1.rar
It's based on the ROM with Cingular bloatware.
GnatGoSplat said:
Here's a first effort:
http://rapidshare.com/files/93338388/sdhc_test1.rar
It's based on the ROM with Cingular bloatware.
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damn, bloatware
update: no go. finds a 1gb microsd, but not a 4gb class2 microsd hc.
try this
http://ren.redsys.ru/_private/WM6StrTrk/SDHC Support Kit.cab
only for wm6
hey, just to let you know, tried both sdhc cabs, (the one at the begging of the thread and erfich's SDHC support kit) and thats a no go on both. running Erofich's wm6 v5c rom, task manager just reads storage card, unknown unknown unknow, and file manager dosen't have any folder for memory card any more. normal sd still works fine with the cabs installed though.
Tested using a normal 1gb MicroSD and a 6GB class 4 microSDHC
Thanks
Damian
(also a big thanks to Erofich for the great ROM, and for try to help and to support )
I've tried experimenting with several other drivers from different devices and no go (many won't even read regular SD).
It looks like the possibility of SDHC on the StarTrek might be as hopeless as the Tornado.
damiantmc said:
I'd be happy to test it in a couple of days aswell, i've got a 6gb microsdhc in my kaiser and I've just bought one of these phones of expansys for £69.95!!! great value if you ask me, especially for just carrying for work when i don't need all the functions of my kaiser but still like to have winmo. anyway first thing i'm doing when it arrives (should be friday hopefully) is cid unlock and winmo 6 so might aswell kill 2 birds with one stone and test this aswell if you want
DTMc
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369.95 FOR 6Gb is good? :|
I prefer http://www.mobymemory.com/products/...SDHC)-memory-card-with-Sandisk-USB-reader.asp
but as they don't work in the Startrk it's fairly academic...
lol no I think you've read me wrong, I paid £69.95 for my 8500, the 6gb microsdhc I already had out of my kaiser, bought that back in december for £32 delivered from moby memory. Works great in my kaiser and my nikon d40, but no go for the 8500 unfortunetly
oh well, keep trying and as long as we don't give up we shall find a way... maybe lol
Damian
That's right, let's keepour fingers crossed. Something might break very soon (not meant figuratively!)
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lol no I think you've read me wrong, I paid £69.95 for my 8500, the 6gb microsdhc I already had out of my kaiser, bought that back in december for £32 delivered from moby memory. Works great in my kaiser and my nikon d40, but no go for the 8500 unfortunetly
oh well, keep trying and as long as we don't give up we shall find a way... maybe lol
Damian
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lol - I thought it unlikely anyone hadn't heard of Moby! Just ordered a 2Gb card for my 8500 as nothing bigger works at the mo.
Hopefully one of the clever buggers on here will get them working!
guys hey
I just bought a tablet S, model number sgpt112au/s, which is an Australian 32gb version. I'm going to be using it in my truck for music and GPS.
having read that the power connection is a 2 wire 10.5 volt affair, ill be looking at buying a voltage regulator off ebay.
I started reading threads on here, but, theres a lot of them.
I was wondering if one of you might be so kind as to list easy mods that i should do to it, and then i can go and hunt down the threads of those mods, please?
lol, admittedly, im lazy, its true, but there is a lot of reading.
I know that it'll take a 128gb sd card if its formatted to fat32, so ill be buying one of those. ill be using music folder player to play tunes with, i actually live in the same town in Ireland as the guy who created it, funnily enough.
anything else...
I know jack about android to be honest... should i try install the latest version, will it run and will performance suffer?
cheers for reading
regards,
redd .
Hey man
Good to see fellow Irish here
Are you trying install the tab semi permanent in the cab your best bet is a cig lighter adapter just check the voltage output On the adapter you should have no issuses
This tab is only On ice cream sandwich
Don't try to flash jelly bean On it as it will brick your device with no way of recovery
I would recommend rooting with the A.I.O Condi's then the rescue back door option it tricks the device into thinking it needs an update so you can recover from a error other than that it's a good tab
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