Since there's a lot of new people asking about 4gb MiniSD Cards, I figured I might as well start a new thread with places that people have purchased 4gb cards from, and had full success with, myself included.
http://www.emartbuy.co.uk/products.php?prodtypeid=20&memoryType=Mini+SD#product-450
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZblownQ2dz
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_001
Now, on the other thread, it was mentioned about SDHC which stands for SD High Capacity, does -NOT- work with the Wizards at all. These you do need to steer clear of, however, one of the card from the above retail points, do work and have been tested in real world situations and real world Wizards, by very much real people, like me. So buy from these places, if anyone else has a successful purchase, please post where you got it from, otherwise, please leave clarifications to private message. Wanna keep the thread simple and clean. Can we please get a sticky on this and I'll step in to maintain please?
Thanks, enjoy the Wizard.
-EDIT: Since I noticed there are quite a few people yelling up and down that 4gb MiniSDs do not exist, I have posted a picture of my card, OVER the 2gb 1907mb (formatted), and 2048mb (what windows sees 2GB as), limit on my Wizard. Now kindly, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD SAYING THAT 3 OF US ARE LIARS. Oh, and if you have a working 4gb card over the 2048mb mark, please take a screenshot with Screen Capture Utility, and post it here with a link, just to reaffirm that we're not crazy.
In that second link, the ebay seller....if you look at the image of the 4gig mem card, you can tell that the 4. is photoshopped. Wouldnt seem necessary if it was real, so why the fake picture? Are these really 2 gig mem cards that ppl have said are hacked to act like 4 gig cards that have a shorter life?
The Sandisk website shows 4 gb sd cards of different flavors...
Including mini sd cards
somebody7 said:
In that second link, the ebay seller....if you look at the image of the 4gig mem card, you can tell that the 4. is photoshopped. Wouldnt seem necessary if it was real, so why the fake picture? Are these really 2 gig mem cards that ppl have said are hacked to act like 4 gig cards that have a shorter life?
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I bought, i've had it about 2 weeks without a single problem already, using over 2gb of space. And the card when you get it actually doesn't have any printing on it at all, and has barely any marking on the bottom side, just a serial and some manufacturing code. I can take a picture if somebody wants.
CyberDad said:
The Sandisk website shows 4 gb sd cards of different flavors...
Including mini sd cards
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The 4gb miniSDs featured on their site are SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) or something like that, and those are INCOMPATIBLE with Wizards or any other device on the market for that matter, cept recent devices within the past, say, 6 months.
SDHC is just a FAT32 card, they work perfectly well with a Wizard... You can't get more than 2GB on FAT16.
Dude, I plugged one of these (Transcend 4GB SDHC) into my Cingular 8125 and it didn't even know it was there. It appears that Cynagen is right.
My Wizard didn't even detect the my 2GB card untill I did s soft reset, they are very picky about picking up anything in the miniSD slot.
Tyr said:
My Wizard didn't even detect the my 2GB card untill I did s soft reset, they are very picky about picking up anything in the miniSD slot.
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so where is a place where we can buy them that we wont get ripped off.
Well, I really only know of http://www.mobymemory.com/ but don't know what countries they ship to. I normally wait till new media appear on somewhere like expansys as they are reputable and reliable.
www.expansys.com
There are real 4GB cards out there but it is hard to tell if you are being ripped off or not...
i got mine from mobymemory, too. i got it within a 1 week after ordering (to germany) and it works perfectly in my wizard. it is quite slow though. at least i have 4gigs now.
Sounds good, I am really tempted at that price... Payed exactly that for my 2GB card about six months ago.
I have one on the way after ordering a SDHC from MemorySuppliers. I wound up ordering one from an ebayer called Quality Rams. $89 no shipping charge.
According to Memory Suppliers the Transend Card they sell another non SDHC card that will work priced at $79
Hey all, now I know jack stick when it comes to these devices, I've only recently bought it! I have the XDA Mini S (9100 as far as I know? Correct me if I'm wrong), and I bought a 4gb card off ebay for £32 from the USA, think it was about £25 without postage - ie, very cheap.
It works when connected to my pc, my friends XDA IIs, and my maths tutors XDA IIs (with the MiniSD to SD adaptor), however my Mini S doesn't like it. I managed to access it once, but now it just doesn't seem to know it's there, are there any tips on what I can do to get it working? I updated the firmware off the o2 site, I'm running:
ROM - 2.21.4.1 WWE ?
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
(whatever that means )
Any tips on how I can get it working would be great. Thanks , Dom.
Dommo said:
Hey all, now I know jack stick when it comes to these devices, I've only recently bought it! I have the XDA Mini S (9100 as far as I know? Correct me if I'm wrong), and I bought a 4gb card off ebay for £32 from the USA, think it was about £25 without postage - ie, very cheap.
It works when connected to my pc, my friends XDA IIs, and my maths tutors XDA IIs (with the MiniSD to SD adaptor), however my Mini S doesn't like it. I managed to access it once, but now it just doesn't seem to know it's there, are there any tips on what I can do to get it working? I updated the firmware off the o2 site, I'm running:
ROM - 2.21.4.1 WWE ?
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
(whatever that means )
Any tips on how I can get it working would be great. Thanks , Dom.
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Yeah, try formatting the cards. I just received my two 4 GB Mini SD from mobymemory.com and when I tried to use them into my device, they won't recognize it but after formatting them it worked perfectly. I've read people complaining about speed but I'm happy with the speed as well.
I'm using one on my Universal and the other on Wizard.
I tried that and it still doesn't seem to work
I just tried putting it in then doing a soft reset. I need to try someone elses minisd card, to make sure it's not my device at fault. Would be a bummer if it is my card slot that's duffed!
I'll have a test of someone elses when I can find someone with a minisd card and let you know!
Thanks for the advice so far, Dom
Update on Quality Rams
They sent me the wrong card. I received a HC card, enen though their eBay add specifically said it was for the Cingular 8125. I got this tip directly from the forum on the HTC site.
They gave me no hassle in accepting a return.
Carrying on from before, the 4gb card works fine in my mates phone (Nokia 6280), and his memory card works perfectly in my 9100. So there must be a problem with my firmware being unable to recognise the 4gb card. Any ideas what firmware I can try? (stock is o2 XDA Mini S firmware, with the above - four posts up - version)
What firmware are you using KarmaNP?
Thanks.
Dommo said:
Carrying on from before, the 4gb card works fine in my mates phone (Nokia 6280), and his memory card works perfectly in my 9100. So there must be a problem with my firmware being unable to recognise the 4gb card. Any ideas what firmware I can try? (stock is o2 XDA Mini S firmware, with the above - four posts up - version)
What firmware are you using KarmaNP?
Thanks.
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I'm currently using Faria's latest 3.3 on my wizard with 2.47 radio and
Helmi's CB on my Universal with 1.14 radio.
Hope this helps
I just downloaded the 8mb pool rom from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
Ran the romupdateutility
ROM version is still 2.21.4.1 WWE
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
the ExtROM version has disappeared. So everything except ExtROM is the same?
Am I missing something blindingly obvious to people in the know or is there a problem? When I ran farias romupdateutility it showed that it was v3.3, but on the screen showing which firmware it will update from and to, it said v1.2 (from), and blank (to)? Is this the problem? I also tried to update to Radio version 2.47, and that didn't work at all, it had the blank update to, thing, again, and the phone turned off as the percentage screen appeared, and I had to remove the battery to get it back up and running. I feel so stupid!
And finally. Sorry if these are really dumb questions, I know how annoying newbies and their dumb questions are!
PS - memory card is still not recognised.
Dommo said:
Hey all, now I know jack stick when it comes to these devices, I've only recently bought it! I have the XDA Mini S (9100 as far as I know? Correct me if I'm wrong), and I bought a 4gb card off ebay for £32 from the USA, think it was about £25 without postage - ie, very cheap.
It works when connected to my pc, my friends XDA IIs, and my maths tutors XDA IIs (with the MiniSD to SD adaptor), however my Mini S doesn't like it. I managed to access it once, but now it just doesn't seem to know it's there, are there any tips on what I can do to get it working? I updated the firmware off the o2 site, I'm running:
ROM - 2.21.4.1 WWE ?
ROM date - 03/09/2006
Radio version - 02.07.10
Protocol version - 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
(whatever that means )
Any tips on how I can get it working would be great. Thanks , Dom.
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try installing wmstorage, insert your 4gb card, open wmstorage select sd card and activate, now connect your device to pc as a mass storage device and format there the drive once it is recognized. format it as fat32 with 512byte cluster and sector size..
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Hey All:
I was on the pdaPhone Home forum
( http://pdaphonehome.com/forums ) and I found this reply to a post I had made about the SD slot. It sounds like a challenge to the XDA developers to me! If anyone can do anything, it is you guys!!!
Here it is:
[The SD slot is]
more than you think it is. [I am]
new to this board, but I can tell you two things I know for certain.
One, the SD slot is not SD/IO directly, however.....
Viewtake does offer a camera than plugs into the SD slot of these phones and works very well. Takes decent pictures, with several options of picture size and type, will take 8fps video, and comes with a nice software suite. I know because I have one. Anyone who would like pics of or from it just need to ask.
Two, I happen to be a security systems installer (actual Security systems, not software or computer based) and one of the places I installed a system, I happen to get the chance to speak with someone who is part of the top eschelon of the windows mobile solutions development team. This person seemed to enjoy chatting with me about the OS and the products. In talking about the PPC PE I was told that, although nothing could be confirmed (non-disclosure agreements), that I would be VERY surprised what the SD slot on the PPC PE was capable of. I do believe that more can be done with it than is thought. Has ANYONE actually tried the install of any SD/IO devices like a Bluetooth or 802.11b SD Card?
if i were you i'd try to do a search on the subject
and you'll get plenty of useful posts
also there are many posts about cams which works for xda in the Accessories forum
of cause it's possible to make many many things which today needs sdio using just a normal sd connector
a sd connector works for ram
if a sd card have some flash apart from the stuff which take care of it's function
and both the device and the sd's non mem part have access to that mem
they can communicate writing in some files in the mem part of the sdcard
but since pretty much all new devices today come with SD IO
i doubt there is a big market for those devices which is also more complex to make then a normal SDIO which is a descriped std
we have seen bluetooth headsets which works for xda
but it's a bit of a cheat since it goes into the headset connector
and just make the analog signal bluetooth to the headset
this mean you cant use anything else then the headset
pretty much everything is possible but when there is lots of work involved and not a pile of coins in the end people dont really line up to get involved
Easily done withour SD/IO
A camera for xda could easily be developed without requiring anything special from the SD slot.
If the camera were fully self contained with the ability to write to flash mem that is also addressible from the device as a standard SD card would be... all the camera is doing is saving to sd, and the xda is reading from sd the files that the camera saved.
Pretty simple... the tricks are on the camera, not the xda.
Josh
I´ve it !
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I must know it, because i sell the Cam´s
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yes guys its here :
http://www.geardiary.com/2007/01/04/the-spectec-sdg-810-gps-receiver-unboxed/
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yes guys its here :
http://www.geardiary.com/2007/01/04/the-spectec-sdg-810-gps-receiver-unboxed/
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Dont think it will plug into the MICRO SD Slot of the Hermes
well....does your hermes have an sd slot? nice find but not for the hermes....at least that model.
they do even have a version called sdg-811
look here : http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdg810.htm
hehe, look at that carefully. it is still only for SD and miniSD, not for microSD. You can put only microSD card inside adapter to have your external memory still inside - for navigation program, but final product is still only miniSD. correct me, if I am wrong...
kalkanisvec said:
they do even have a version called sdg-811
look here : http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdg810.htm
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kalkanisvec said:
yes guys its here :
http://www.geardiary.com/2007/01/04/the-spectec-sdg-810-gps-receiver-unboxed/
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Its even looks like a big pen marker for white board plug into your device. LOL
kalkanisvec said:
they do even have a version called sdg-811
look here : http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdg810.htm
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Looking at the ad, it implies the package includes a micro-sd conversion card.
egypt123 said:
Looking at the ad, it implies the package includes a micro-sd conversion card.
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nope it would look stupid and will probably break off. Think about it. Big SD to small MICRO SD....hmmmmm
I think that sinmae is correct - the product requires a SD or miniSD slot, but to compensate for the loss of the (mini)SD slot, it provides a microSD slot to put a microSD memory card into.
Such a shame, since I just sent my Garnin GPS 20SM back to Garmin yesterday for a RMA - it's not charging the phone properly. It seems silly to have to soft-reset my 8525 to have to get it to charge, when a USB cable connected to my PC works flawlessly every time. Oh well, here's hoping it was just a defective unit. *crosses my fingers*
-- Joe
@JoeVulture: most USB chargers wont work with the TyTn's due to the way HTC set up the mini-USB plug (there's loads of threads on it).
What a heap of crap! I will stick to my Rikaline bluetooth.
Just when I was gonna give up on waiting for a kaiser.
Guys... i may have a solution/workaround to enable the use of SDHC Cards in the Hermes... i have obtained some SDHC Drivers and reg settings...
but i unfortunately dont have a SDHC card lying around... so if you have one PM me and ill send you the instructions...
cross those fingers guys
That would be so sweet! But I wonder if anyone here has such card, since it has been tested not to work earlier. And I for sure would sell it pretty quickly if it didn't work.
Best of luck with your efforts on this one!
Good luck on your efforts.
There are a LOT of anxious people out here hoping you are successful! (including myself!)
I have a 4gb microSDHC card. Send me the instructions and I will try them after I get home from work today...
an Update... cooking a new ROM with the appropriate drivers inserted into the XIP and will upload for the users to test...
schapps rom already supports sdhc, I am using it right now wot my 4gb microsdhc card from Sandisk
Can confirm what mcq3000 says, schapps ROM and the SanDisk 4GB SDHC micro SD works well.
Cheers
LB
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Can confirm what mcq3000 says, schapps ROM and the SanDisk 4GB SDHC micro SD works well.
Yah!!! But I still am willing to try out those drivers, please. The more the merrier... Walshieau, I PM'd you with my details.
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update 1.... confirmed schaps ROM's are SDHC compliant...
OEMDrivers into other ROM's as well as some reg entries... looking good so far...
Does anyone know if the LVSW 5-19 ROM (3.30.2.1) supports the SDHC as well? Looks like it might be the same OS number so I can hope for the best.
I'm currently running vp3G's mod of it.
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Does anyone know if the LVSW 5-19 ROM (3.30.2.1) supports the SDHC as well?
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I am running LVSW 5/19 and my 4gb microSDHC does not work
pcm2a said:
Does anyone know if the LVSW 5-19 ROM (3.30.2.1) supports the SDHC as well? Looks like it might be the same OS number so I can hope for the best.
I'm currently running vp3G's mod of it.
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Wild guess, no, because of the build. BUT, I should be getting my 4g sdhc today. And since I'm using vp3g's version currently on my 8525, I'll be able to check this real easy after work tonight (@ 12AM EDST) Let you know then, okay?
Thanks, I appretiate you checking. I suspect you are right that it will not because the 5-19 build doesnt. Maybe we can get vp3G to include this in his next build for us!
Hey guys... Sorry about last night- I had to pull a surprise double at work. Just put my 4gb sdhc micro in my 8525 with vp3G's latest (as of 6/15), and...
Nothing!!! But we guess that. The kicker is that I don't what the new card is formatted in-- my cardreader, or maybe win2k doesn't see the card either. So i will flash to schapps' ROM now as I was planning to all along, and the do LVSW's new WWE ROM 6/16 as well and report on both. TTFN!!!
Just finished flashing schapp's, and as we know already the sdhc micro does get read with this build. Yay!!! The card works!!!Now downloading lvsw's newest rom... Will be a couple of hours before I can check it, probably TTfn!!!
Well, if anyone wants to know, I just flashed lvsw's ROM (6/16), and my 4gb sdhc reads as 3878.47mb. So it works. And I and my 8525 are happy until the next big thing happens. (But I still don't really like the black!!!)
just to confirm, I have just flashed the Black Shadow ROM, and my SanDisk 4gb microSDHC card *DOES* work with this ROM
Nice to know! From reading the 6-16 LVSW post it looks like there are some pretty big bugs and missing stuff in the new release so it might be a while before we get to upgrade to that. I might just pick up a $30 2gig card to use with the fantastic vp3G build that I'm currently running.
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried using a sdhc with a capacity > 4gb?? If I follow the logic behind what the fix for this issueis , they should work, but what do I know...
an Update.... just got work from 'someone' that ALL the WM6 ROMS from HTC with build 17745 and UP have support for SDHC...
halfhp said:
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried using a sdhc with a capacity > 4gb?? If I follow the logic behind what the fix for this issueis , they should work, but what do I know...
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IS THERE one, yet?? It took so long to get 4gb micro...
walshieau-- Yayyyy
whatledog - I've seen links to 16 gig micro sdhc cards...beyond that I can't say. its so hard to separate fact from fiction on the internet
edit: so I looked for the 16 gig link and all I could find were references to an 8 gig from samsung which doesn't appear to be readily available. rats.
Hi,
I have installed WM6 on my Qtek 8500. Is it possible to use SDHC 8GB microSD on it?
/JR
If you have one, try it out and see. Let us know if it works!
I tried my 4G card and it didn't work
Oh well. At least we know the answer to that question, the 3125/Startrek doesn't have SDHC hardware.
Jozer99 said:
Oh well. At least we know the answer to that question, the 3125/Startrek doesn't have SDHC hardware.
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hardware isnt problem. you need new MicroSD-card driver
...and are the drivers available? Current WM6 devices all support SDHC.
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hardware isnt problem. you need new MicroSD-card driver
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@JesperRas,
As Erofich notes, the many people have gotten SDHC to work on WM6 ROMs that didn't initially support SDHC by installing the right driver. See the following thread for a .cab file download that worked on many devices:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310456&page=4
I think the original device this driver came from may have been a PocketPC, but I recall in the thread that it worked in some Smartphones too. The cab file was even reported to work on some WM5 devices, so I tried it on my WM5 StarTrek, but no workee. However, I think this is worth another try now that we have WM6 on the StarTrek (thanks Erofich, and everyone else who worked on this - you rock!). I have no idea if it is the "right" driver or not, but maybe worth a try. So, anybody feel brave today and want to try this one? I haven't had time to flash WM6 yet (gonna get to that soon), but if anyone gives this a try, please let us know how it goes!
When the cab file didn't work on my WM5 StarTrek, it also removed regular microSD from being seen. But I just uninstalled the cab and restarted the phone and regular microSD came back. So probably not a lot of risk to try this, but who knows...?
If anyone wants to try a ROM w/SDHC support, let me know. I don't have any MicroSDHC cards to try.
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If anyone wants to try a ROM w/SDHC support, let me know. I don't have any MicroSDHC cards to try.
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i'll be a guinea pig for the sdhc test, GnatGoSplat. it's been fun to be able to do something with this phone again. it's been collecting dust since i picked up my kaiser.
I'll whip one up tonight.
I'd be happy to test it in a couple of days aswell, i've got a 6gb microsdhc in my kaiser and I've just bought one of these phones of expansys for £69.95!!! great value if you ask me, especially for just carrying for work when i don't need all the functions of my kaiser but still like to have winmo. anyway first thing i'm doing when it arrives (should be friday hopefully) is cid unlock and winmo 6 so might aswell kill 2 birds with one stone and test this aswell if you want
DTMc
Here's a first effort:
http://rapidshare.com/files/93338388/sdhc_test1.rar
It's based on the ROM with Cingular bloatware.
GnatGoSplat said:
Here's a first effort:
http://rapidshare.com/files/93338388/sdhc_test1.rar
It's based on the ROM with Cingular bloatware.
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damn, bloatware
update: no go. finds a 1gb microsd, but not a 4gb class2 microsd hc.
try this
http://ren.redsys.ru/_private/WM6StrTrk/SDHC Support Kit.cab
only for wm6
hey, just to let you know, tried both sdhc cabs, (the one at the begging of the thread and erfich's SDHC support kit) and thats a no go on both. running Erofich's wm6 v5c rom, task manager just reads storage card, unknown unknown unknow, and file manager dosen't have any folder for memory card any more. normal sd still works fine with the cabs installed though.
Tested using a normal 1gb MicroSD and a 6GB class 4 microSDHC
Thanks
Damian
(also a big thanks to Erofich for the great ROM, and for try to help and to support )
I've tried experimenting with several other drivers from different devices and no go (many won't even read regular SD).
It looks like the possibility of SDHC on the StarTrek might be as hopeless as the Tornado.
damiantmc said:
I'd be happy to test it in a couple of days aswell, i've got a 6gb microsdhc in my kaiser and I've just bought one of these phones of expansys for £69.95!!! great value if you ask me, especially for just carrying for work when i don't need all the functions of my kaiser but still like to have winmo. anyway first thing i'm doing when it arrives (should be friday hopefully) is cid unlock and winmo 6 so might aswell kill 2 birds with one stone and test this aswell if you want
DTMc
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369.95 FOR 6Gb is good? :|
I prefer http://www.mobymemory.com/products/...SDHC)-memory-card-with-Sandisk-USB-reader.asp
but as they don't work in the Startrk it's fairly academic...
lol no I think you've read me wrong, I paid £69.95 for my 8500, the 6gb microsdhc I already had out of my kaiser, bought that back in december for £32 delivered from moby memory. Works great in my kaiser and my nikon d40, but no go for the 8500 unfortunetly
oh well, keep trying and as long as we don't give up we shall find a way... maybe lol
Damian
That's right, let's keepour fingers crossed. Something might break very soon (not meant figuratively!)
damiantmc said:
lol no I think you've read me wrong, I paid £69.95 for my 8500, the 6gb microsdhc I already had out of my kaiser, bought that back in december for £32 delivered from moby memory. Works great in my kaiser and my nikon d40, but no go for the 8500 unfortunetly
oh well, keep trying and as long as we don't give up we shall find a way... maybe lol
Damian
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lol - I thought it unlikely anyone hadn't heard of Moby! Just ordered a 2Gb card for my 8500 as nothing bigger works at the mo.
Hopefully one of the clever buggers on here will get them working!
I stumbled on this:
http://www.spectec.com.tw/wlan.htm
Just wanted to know if it is worth it/works good.
I've used the mini version on another phone. It worked pretty good. Unfortunately, it looks like the micro card is longer then a normal card, so the startrek wouldn't have room for it.
Built-in SD can not be used!
That card is too long!
My English is not good!
there is a possibility...
first you have to make sure the port on the startrek is SDIO capable - if it is it looks possible with a little judicious cutting (dremel or something like that) that there is enough room between the battery and the sd port for the WIFI card to fit.
You would need to be *very* careful as there are components under that raised panel and you would also need to talk to a supplier of said card for its exact dimensions.
anyone game to try it?
Jemma xx
Very interesting.