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I flashed my locked g4 with faria's shelltool that installed wm6, my phone now wont make it past the ipl/spl screen. at this point i found the sd card backup method and unlocked my g4 through the website. when running through this method i find that the utility is unable to copy the extrom.. it seems to be the last hitch, my phone as of now is a brick and i am hoping for that to change. any help please?
Im not so sure its a brick, I think I read in other posts that if it makes it to the IPL/SPL screen there is still hope.. if it was a brick, I dont think it would do ANYTHING.
You might want to look into that though, I may be wrong, but I am pretty certain there is hope for u.
Hi there.
Turn off the phone, remove battery if necessary. Then press and hold camera button and then press the power button, your phone will enter in boot mode, now flash with the operator´s rom.
Cheers
sorry for the delayed response here. the phone (even in boot mode ) will not be found by active sync so i cannot get the thing to flash with the t-mo rom. since this issue i contacted customer care and am having the phone replaced under warranty.
the phone will NOT be recognized by activesync.. you just need to start the ROM update and it will go along fine. you need the original carrier ROM, and unless your device is CID unlocked, you need to use ShellTool to flash the WM6 ROM. good luck
-Nstefanelli-
I cannot access the phone part of my Hermes. I tried backing the radio back to 1.48 and nothing. I have recently upgraded the radio to 1.50. But like I said I tried to go back. Everything else works fine and boots fine. I tried doing the Unlock Sim and CID patch and then tried to flash the radio again and still nothing. I have an IMEI number. The funny thing is I can read the services for the phone ,"Call Barring", etc.. I get a letter up at the top for the band which is a "G" but my antenna has a exclamation mark beside it. Please help!!
It worked OK with 1.50?
Odd. Did the flash back to 1.48 complete successfully?
Did the SIM/CID unlock complete successfully?
If it were me, I would try reflashing the radio. Be sure you have HardSPL.
If that didn't work, I would hard reset and completely reflash the OS and Radio - but that should not be necessary.
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I cannot access the phone part of my Hermes. I tried backing the radio back to 1.48 and nothing. I have recently upgraded the radio to 1.50. But like I said I tried to go back. Everything else works fine and boots fine. I tried doing the Unlock Sim and CID patch and then tried to flash the radio again and still nothing. I have an IMEI number. The funny thing is I can read the services for the phone ,"Call Barring", etc.. I get a letter up at the top for the band which is a "G" but my antenna has a exclamation mark beside it. Please help!!
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If the flash radio ROM alone will not work, Try doing a flash for an OS+Radio ROM together, there are a number of those available in the forum (the T-Mobile 3.60 is the latest).
soldier777 said:
I cannot access the phone part of my Hermes. I tried backing the radio back to 1.48 and nothing. I have recently upgraded the radio to 1.50. But like I said I tried to go back. Everything else works fine and boots fine. I tried doing the Unlock Sim and CID patch and then tried to flash the radio again and still nothing. I have an IMEI number. The funny thing is I can read the services for the phone ,"Call Barring", etc.. I get a letter up at the top for the band which is a "G" but my antenna has a exclamation mark beside it. Please help!!
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The following thread has saved my Hermes several times. I've bricked it more than once through trying to create my own bastard sons of other people's cooked ROMs.
What I do is I keep a copy of HERMIMG.nbh from the ORIGINAL ROM that came on my phone PERMANENTLY on my MicroSD card and fix it using this method every time I knacker the phone.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing
Apart from that there is a lot of help in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755 <- though you'll have to search through it pretty thoroughly to find the answer for your own situation as there are a lot of dead Hermes Qs on there with a wide variety of answers offered by helpful folk.
Hope it works out ok mate.
Appologize for posting the thread twice... I wasn't sure if this goes to the Hermes or the Herald forum...
Hello All,
I recently got an ATT 8525 and I'm trying to use it with my T-Mobile (US) SIM. I was able to successfully unlock the SIM and CID with an util/rom I found on this site (I think the post was from Pof). And I also re-flashed the phone with the latest ROM available.
But after about 5-10mins of usage the signal dies and when I reboot it says No GSM. Looks like the Radio ROM gets corrupted. I tried just re-flashing the Radio ROM and that doesn't help either. It works for short while and again the signal dies.
And also, I'm unable to install any of the generic ROMs (Fantastic Mobiz, PVET 40005) Although I'm connected to Active Sync when I run the Step 1 (ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G3.exe), I get a ERROR [222] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING. And when I run the step 2 directly (update_rom.bat) I get an cannot update itsutils.dll maybe in use error.
As you can tell I've been messing with phone a lot for a couple of days with no luck and my frustration level is kinda high
As of now here’s where I stand. I re-flashed the phone (Image: 3.62, Radio 1.50) and it’s on the “Tap the screen to set up your windows based mobile device” screen. I plan on leaving it on this screen until I can a good solution.
I would like to get rid of the ATT ROM and install one of those hybrid generic ROM that is not Carrier specific. Any help will be much appreciated. Share your ideas, I’m very experimental
Phone Details…
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 1.40.0 lipro
ok ur going all over the map here.. did u hardspl first? also pvet 40005 isnt a hermes rom.. um try hardspl first THEN flash to a new rom maybe once you successfully do that then try a new 3.62 rom.. i run austinsync buts its naked..just like i like my women. ha. but if ur looking for a full blown try fun_key's rom or blinkys.. these arent carrier dependent
hey man jakeypoo, Thanks for your reply. I kinda figured that I was all over the map.
Okay first appologize my ignorance. What is a HardSPL? I did a search on this forum and I found Hard-SPL-V7.zip. Is this a good version to use? Also when I run the exe, All options are grayed out except for "Force Using SSPL" and "Is it Hard-SPL". What do I select.
Thanks!
Hardspl v7 is the latest version out there, its the one for you to use so that you're safe from future mishaps.
I also have an 8525 on T-mobile... so no worries.
Hope this helps.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardSPL
still problems (no gsm)
Thanks whistler4ever. That link was really a great help.
Here's what I did...
1. Installed the Hard SPL version 6
2. Installed the latest ATT ROM (ver 3.62 radio: 1.54) I had to do this because the radio on the phone was corrupt (says "no GSM" on the start screen) and couldn't install just the radio rom. kept giving connection errors.
3. Installed Schap's WM6 Pro 3.57 hoping this would get ride of the ATT ROM and my intial problem (no GSM) will go away.
Everything was fine for like 15 mins, then my phone just froze. I reboot the phone and sure enough the radio ROM was gone (no gsm). ;(
Running out of ideas.
1. Could this problem be because I'm using a TMobile SIM on a ATT's radio ROM?
2. Is the radio ROM specific to the phone type and provider(ATT, TMO..)? Is there a generic WM 6 radio rom? If yes, where can I find the latest version?
3. Any bright ideas?
Thanks again!
Current phone details...
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.10
ROM 3.62
Radio: no gsm
I was able to flash just the radio ROM - version 1.51. But again after a few hours the Radio got currupted. I also tried to follow the instruction ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5 ) to use the mtty.exe utility, but I don't get a USB prompt. I get Cmd prompt and if I still enter the password, it says invalid password. please help!!!
And how do I do the USB monitor capture? I could post more details that way. I'm using my girl friend's old razr now and it's painful!
I have used my t-mobile sim on AT&T rom's and other roms with no problem. I would try going back to a factory rom and then changing back to a cooked rom just to confirm its all a clean install. also, try downgrading your radio to a 1.47 or 1.48 (those have been proved pretty reliable across many cell providers).
Thanks Whistler. I'm going to start with the 1.48 version and if that doesn't work I'll try the 1.47 version. Not giving up on this.
I found 1.47 to work very well with t-mobile even when traveling...
Thanks Galaxys. I just installed the 1.47 radio. I have fully signal and the 'E', but I can't receive or make calls.
It almost looks like my TMO SIM is not compatible with the 8525. It always works for the first few minutes after an install and then stops working.
I'm very certain the phone is in good condition.
Should I try an older radio version.. like a 1.24 or something ?
Can I install just the tmobile radio rom?
I'm also going to install TNT 2.0 pro so I have the exact same set up as you and see if that makes a difference.
no luck!!!
wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
try the way i posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337125
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wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
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Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
Try to flash the entire UK T-Mobile ROM, then remove the internet settings and install the correct CAB for T-Mobile.
UK ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337163
PROVIDER SETTINGS CAB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311446
a-h-t1, Junner2003 and galaxys - I'll try all your suggestions.
a-h-t1 - The first 2 steps went through fine. While I install the radio ROM as part of step 3, the installation doesn't go past 0%
I'm going try Junner2003 idea now. I'll keep everyone posted on my progress.
install stops at 11%
Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
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Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
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Hi Galaxys,
I don't think the IMEI is blocked. Or maybe it is, how do I find out? I don't have any of the symptons listed on the link you sent (don't hear the beeps or anything).
I originally had a T-Mobile wing. The LCD screen cracked (don't know how). And ofcourse TMo won't replace it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335346
I got 8525 from my company. It's almost new. Only used for a day on an AT&T SIM. This phone is free, and so I really don't have much to lose... so all out experimenting
Tried insalling from the micro card, even that stops while installing GSM. pissed!!! Why would the darn Radio not update???
this may sound stupid but if all else fails, why not...
my mda use to have signal then it would just disappear as well after 15 min or less..
turns out the sim card wasnt pressed in properly.. so i just put a piece of paper on top of the sim card to make it thicker and get the battery to press it down harder. and it solved all my problems...
just a suggestion..good luck
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Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
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See this post here for a possible reason (and technical explanation/theory) for your device stalling during radio update. The fix suggestions at the bottom of the page may help you - in particular :
Try cooling the device down a bit before flashing as the PIC chip (where your radio ROM is held) may flash more reliably/easier when cool. Don't ask why - that's from it's datasheet ;-)
The paper on the SIM card is a good idea too to rule out dodgy SIM connection - Great idea r0mmel
I have just tried flashing WM6 on to a Friends QTEK 8500, it went wrong Doh!!!.
I had already last Friday put on it the version with non wroking GPRS and this went without issue. I then reflashed my own one with a GRPS working version (went without a problem) and then tried his. I can get it into the boot loader screen but nothing else. I have tried SD card flashing (3 cards) 1x 512MB Card and 2 x 2GB card all formatted as FAT32 with file on the root the phone searches for it but doesnt find it.
Please any advise.
vallancen said:
I have just tried flashing WM6 on to a Friends QTEK 8500, it went wrong Doh!!!.
I had already last Friday put on it the version with non wroking GPRS and this went without issue. I then reflashed my own one with a GRPS working version (went without a problem) and then tried his. I can get it into the boot loader screen but nothing else. I have tried SD card flashing (3 cards) 1x 512MB Card and 2 x 2GB card all formatted as FAT32 with file on the root the phone searches for it but doesnt find it.
Please any advise.
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First of all, REMEMBER, your phone is NOT bricked until it goes to BOOTLOADER mode.
Have you made SuperCID before flashing? What firmware are you trying to flash via bootloader mode?
Erofich said:
First of all, REMEMBER, your phone is NOT bricked until it goes to BOOTLOADER mode.
Have you made SuperCID before flashing? What firmware are you trying to flash via bootloader mode?
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When you say booloader mode what does that look like. At the moment if I reboot the phone I get the HTC Mobility windows by Erofich screen.
When you hold down camera and record button and then power on the device I get brifely the white scrren looking for SD card it then goes to the tri-colour screen and does nothing.
I beleive I have CID it as I did the same on this as I did on mine i.e. ran the unlock according to the sticky.
I than put on this
Windows Mobile 6 AKU 0.5.0 (5.2.1711 Build 18165.0.5.0) WWE v5c
Yours i beleive (excellent work by the way)
and it all worked fine bar GPRS I relay needed GPRS so I used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368715
using the clean one which updated fine on my phone but when i tried it on my friends it fell over at about 83% I followed the recovery intructions but this did not work.
When you get into bootloader screen by pressing RECORD and CAMERA buttons, then you MUST flash back to the STOCK ROM first. You can't flash any custom WM6 at this point. Only AFTER you have the stock ROM flashed, you can use SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe to app unlock the phone, and copy the SoftSPL into the phone. Then run SPL.lnk.
To summarize: The built-in bootloader CANNOT flash WM6 and can ONLY flash a stock ROM. Once you go back to stock, you can then try to flash WM6 again. Anytime a flash fails, you must go back to stock first, then try again.
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When you get into bootloader screen by pressing RECORD and CAMERA buttons, then you MUST flash back to the STOCK ROM first. You can't flash any custom WM6 at this point. Only AFTER you have the stock ROM flashed, you can use SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe to app unlock the phone, and copy the SoftSPL into the phone. Then run SPL.lnk.
To summarize: The built-in bootloader CANNOT flash WM6 and can ONLY flash a stock ROM. Once you go back to stock, you can then try to flash WM6 again. Anytime a flash fails, you must go back to stock first, then try again.
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I am trying RUU_STAR100_3.6.251.0_02.67.30_QtekEUR_Ship I believe this is an original version 5 rom?
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you can use SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe to app unlock the phone
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This method works on Cingular ROM only, not Qtek.
vallancen
Hold CAMERA and RECORD button and press power button. When it goes to Bootloader tricolor mode connect your device to PC and run official Qtek 8500 RUU. Then make a reg (app) unlock:
Download regeditSTG2 which is digitally signed: http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/387522/regeditSTG2.zip
Then install it and change some registry values:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001001 = 2
-> change to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001005 = 16
-> change to 40
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001017 = 128
-> change to 144
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Security\Policies\Policies
-> create new key "0000101a": Dword = 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Security\Policies\Policies
-> create new key "0000101b": Dword = 1"
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copy SoftSPL to the root of your device and run SPL.lnk
Then run WM6 RUU
Erofich said:
This method works on Cingular ROM only, not Qtek.
vallancen
Hold CAMERA and RECORD button and press power button. When it goes to Bootloader tricolor mode connect your device to PC and run official Qtek 8500 RUU. Then make a reg (app) unlock:
copy SoftSPL to the root of your device and run SPL.lnk
Then run WM6 RUU
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When I plug into PC (XP SP2) and run the Qtek 8500 RUU it just times out and says it cant find device.
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When I plug into PC (XP SP2) and run the Qtek 8500 RUU it just times out and says it cant find device.
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I have two phones one did work and one did not the one that worked shows version 1.02 on the tri colour screen the one I am having problems with shows 3.06 not sure if this is relevant.
Try removing the battery for about 30-seconds (or just removing the battery cover) and then put it back on. With the phone OFF, hold RECORD and CAMERA and plug in the USB while holding those buttons. It should go to the Bootloader. Run the QTEK RUU immediately after doing that.
If you sit at bootloader very long (more than a minute or so), for some reason it times out and the RUU won't work. It could be that's what's happening.
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Try removing the battery for about 30-seconds (or just removing the battery cover) and then put it back on. With the phone OFF, hold RECORD and CAMERA and plug in the USB while holding those buttons. It should go to the Bootloader. Run the QTEK RUU immediately after doing that.
If you sit at bootloader very long (more than a minute or so), for some reason it times out and the RUU won't work. It could be that's what's happening.
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Tried that a couple of times just to make sure I was doing it correctly it goes into the tri colour screen I pressed the reflash option on the PC 1 second later this then sits there for a minute or so and times out "ERROR [260]" the phone did come on and has a USB in the bottom left corner so I presume the connection to the PC is OK.
I have just re-done mine again using the NEO rom (very nice) to make sure I am not going mad and that I did it correctly and this all went without a hitch.
Is there anyway I can get the phone to boot of a SPL on an SD Card I think if I could do this then I could get it back to 5 and start again.
No, it will only boot off the built-in SPL in ROM.
Did you try using the OEM .nbh file, naming it STARIMG.nbh and putting it on the SD card?
GnatGoSplat said:
No, it will only boot off the built-in SPL in ROM.
Did you try using the OEM .nbh file, naming it STARIMG.nbh and putting it on the SD card?
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Yes tried that made sure formatted FAT32 etc. I know the SD card is ok because if I take my working phone and run the SPL link with the card in my good phone it finds the file and asks me if i want to reflash it. The non working phone with SPL3.06 does not do this.
You are not alone.
The bad news - the person in the post ended up having to exchange the phone.
It could be there's a bug in 3.06 SPL? Seems to be the case because I've flashed bad ROMs many dozens of times on my Cingular 3125 StarTrek and not once did I have any trouble flashing OEM ROM back on it.
Can I write the flash at a lower level with any tools i.e. pdocwrite or seomthing like that?
I don't believe so. Those programs require an Activesync connection (copies files to the phone). You could try the MTTY method, but I don't know if that works on StarTrek. I think it's some kind of terminal access into the bootloader, but what I've said so far is the extent of my knowledge about it.
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I have two phones one did work and one did not the one that worked shows version 1.02 on the tri colour screen the one I am having problems with shows 3.06 not sure if this is relevant.
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I have a similar problem on a 3125 and the phone reports V4.01. I acquired the phone in this condition, so don't know how that came to be. When I try to update via USB, it tells me I need a newer update tool (to match the 4.01, I assume). What error message are you getting when you try to update via USB?
I have been struggling to flash (again) the great pro V2 rom, but I always used my VMWare based XP windows version on my Vista laptop. Today I could use a genuine XP Laptop and I could make a connection and start the upgrade!
Sounds good? That's what I thought too, until the upgrade stopped at 70% (and I didn't touch anything), because of a connection error. I followed the text on my PC screen and I finally it started flashing again for a few seconds and then my startrek suddenly restarted, but it stops at the first splash screen! I tried to get my device back to bootloader mode (push 2 soft buttons and start), but no bootloader mode, only the 1st splash.
I solved the problem.
Thank you for this thread
I tried flashing a new ROM to my i-mate smartflip and thought I had killed it, but going back to the wm5 OEM as suggested on this thread worked and I still have my phone. Now, am I brave enough to try upgrading it to wm6.1 (or even 6.5) again... Once again, many thanks!
somebody can me give the oem rom because i am same problem too on the secreen 3.06 i cant flashing anytihing rom somebody must me help
So I'm a total n00b at unlocking phones but I was trying to unlock my alltel 6800 and after running the program and following the steps I'm stuck on the screen that is red/green/blue/white that shows the rom info and says USB at the bottom when plugged into the pc. I tried a hard boot/soft etc. and can't find a solution. Also activesync is not recoginizing it. Thanks much for any help.
i believe you have to flash it with a new rom/radio.
download the the newest radio. connect your phone via usb. your screen should be in the tricolor (2.40spl) at this point. run the radio flash.
Download a new rom. do the same as above.
to get to tricolor screen (hold power + camera + press soft reset)
Yeah i'm thinking I might have to load it from the SD card but I can't find my stinkin adapter so I can format the SD card. Activesync is not recognizing my phone at all.
=I'm stuck on the screen that is red/green/blue/white that shows the rom info and says USB at the bottom when plugged into the pc.
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it IS recognizing the phone being plugged in if it says USB at the bottom, so just flash a new rom/radio and you should be good.
HOLD, Give a little more info please
wilmheath said:
Yeah i'm thinking I might have to load it from the SD card but I can't find my stinkin adapter so I can format the SD card. Activesync is not recognizing my phone at all.
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OK, before it is bricked, tell us the numbers on the rainbow screen, then if it is 1.6 then run the 2.40 olipro, then new ROM, then radio. It is not broken yet, activesync does not like it when the unit is in bootloader mode so it will not show it, but the RUU will work if you just go forward with it and when done it will get you out of bootloader. If you get confused and lost then being an alltel unit you can put the 1.6 bootloader back on, run the stock RUU from utstar.com, bring it back stock and start again.
I got it fixed and installed the sprint firmware but silly me let it run through the setup and now it's trying to use the spring network. Sometimes I wish i could punch myself in the face..
Ok so i got no2chem up and running great but I still can't actually dial out. When i dial it says i'm not allowed to etc after a few rings. Is there some way to change back to the alltel network?
ok now i'm running titan 3.35 but can no longer get active sync which is required to relock the phone. I've tried everything but activesync does not want to work anymore. Any ideas?
ok now i'm running titan 3.35 but can no longer get active sync which is required to relock the phone. I've tried everything but activesync does not want to work anymore. Any ideas?
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First of all, you don't relock your phone...you leave 2.4-olipro on it because it's required to boot your phone with this rom on it.
Second, go into activesync settings and make sure usb is enabled in the connections.
get back to Alltel,,,,
wilmheath said:
ok now i'm running titan 3.35 but can no longer get active sync which is required to relock the phone. I've tried everything but activesync does not want to work anymore. Any ideas?
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You will need to load up the PRL and then do IOTA.
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You will need to load up the PRL and then do IOTA.
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I'm sorry but i'm not familiar with those terms. I do have USB enabled on activesync though but it never detects it.
From reading other threads I assumed I had to relock it, then reload the alltel rom to get the radio working again. Is there another way?
I got the factory alltel rom back in and working but it's not letting me make calls still. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Well i got my phone working finally but now the data line is not working. It says I need a password now which I haven't needed before.