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Hello
I'm hoping someone might be able to help with a problem we have encountered. We would like to allow some of our XDA users to access their Exchange email accounts via the webmail interface using Pocket Internet Explorer. This all works OK but there is a slight security issue with Pocket IE on the XDA caching network credentials.
The first time the user accesses the webmail site they are asked for the username, password and domain details as we would expect. Once authenticated they get to the mailbox login and from here can access their account. No problem here.
All subsequent logins however go straight to the mailbox so the XDA seems to be caching the network credentials. The only way we have found so far to clear the "cache" is to reset the XDA. I was wondering if anyone could suggest any other way.
O2 say this is a known "feature / issue" and the solution is to upgrade our Exchange server from 5.5 to 2000.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Microsoft
The problem you are experiencing here is an issue with Pocket IE. This part of the PocketPC 2002 operating system, and it pretty much unmodified by O2 / T-Mobile etc. You will find the same problem if you use an iPAQ, Casiopea etc, so it's not something that can be specifically fixed by O" - that's really up to microsoft.
I initially contacted Microsoft Tech Support and was told that they didn't support Pocket PC and I should contact the supplier of the PDA (ie O2).
I'll try Microsoft again but in the meantime I'd be grateful for any other suggestions.
Reading other posts on the site it looks as if it might not be possible to update the version of Pocket PC on the XDA anyway.
Thanks very much for your help.
What I'm looking for are:
- Ability to have more than 5 email accounts.
- Ability to create mailing list, or a group of email accounts.
- Still have push mail capability, still able to display mail correctly.
Alternatively, is there an add-on to the standard outlook email application that would give us the mailing list capability?
I tried searching the net, but have not come across anything yet. Does anyone know of a solution?
Thanks and cheers.
How about FlexMail 2007 by WebIS?
Ninja1 said:
How about FlexMail 2007 by WebIS?
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As I understand it FlexMail uses a different method of pushing (IMAP IDLE rather than Direct Push).
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How about FlexMail 2007 by WebIS?
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Thanks Ninja1 for your info.
Have you tried it? Can you share your experience with us on FlexMail 2007?
If it has the feature that I look for, the method of pushing does not matter to me I guess.
I'm now playing with the trail version. Will report how well it satisfies my requirement of mailing list, and push mail.... Thanks again Ninja1
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I don't see the mailing list feature any where within flexmail. Or may be it is a well hidden feature. How do I create a mailing list containing a group of email accounts, so that I need not compile this each time I need to send mail to a group of people?
Flexmail is da ****... It also handles SMS's.. All messages/mail in 1 App..
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Flexmail is da ****... It also handles SMS's.. All messages/mail in 1 App..
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It's a lovely application, but it does not seem to have the ability to create mailing list. Or have I overlooked something?
Weird Software
If you have multiple mail ids associated to a contact, Flexmail 2007 doesn't allow you to select the mail id, it always select the primary id.
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It's a lovely application, but it does not seem to have the ability to create mailing list. Or have I overlooked something?
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The other way to do this is via server... I guess Flexmail did that to prevent people from spamming using their phone...
I'd like a clone of the Iphone's email client. I hate to harp on about it but this is Apple's FIRST attempt and it's pretty much the mutt's nuts.
Microsoft's attempt at HTML email in comparison is ugly, unfriendly and clunky...I mean what's all that 'scroll right' bollocks about??? Just show us the f**king page in a smooth, user-friendly way, allow us to add multiple accounts and switch them on and off as and when required and we will all be happy no doubt.
I've come back to a Windows Mobile device from an iPhone (perhaps because I'm sadistic) and I'm really lamenting the lack of features which I iitially deemed 'showy' on the iPhone when I first saw Steve Jobs showing it off.
I expect that Apple have poached all of Microsoft's best programmers, or else Microsoft have been dedicating 0.0002 percent of their focus to the Windows Mobile O.S.
Sorry for drifting a little off-topic. I will persevere with my Windows Mobile device in the interim and will also be on the hunt for a genuinely enjoyable and multi-functional Email replacement for Windows Mobile - or praying that they see fit to update the built-in one and stem the tide of XDA regulars pouring to Steve Jobs' door.
Let's face it - we've got more options than ever before - Microsoft now have a lot of competition and surely cant afford to keep making applications with the drab look of a chinese Cect iPhone clone's menu system, and relying on HTC to pick up the pieces.
Soon HTC and their incredibly talented programming team will bugger off to Android and we will start to see PROPER email clients, FULL ports of Openoffice, Thunderbird, Google Chrome/Firefox and Pidgin for example - on an open-source network.
I just hope that Microsoft get their act together before my upgrade arrives in february or else this time I'm gone for good.
I sure agree with Leoni
I just checked my wife's iPhone and I must say the email client is just too good , sent a couple of my HTML emails and I must say it was just the way as they appear in normal outlook.
I am having a Touch HD 800x480 screen and I get to see crappy links while my wife with a
iphone 480x30 screen sees just super HTML emails with all the proper formatting and pictures.
Come on MS , give us a proper email client , after all these years we are in 09 for pet's sake.
since we are off topic, might as well continue.
I have a BB 9000 for email and I still think BB is the most bullet proof email.
Recently I went to a Nokia E71 and the email client reminds me of the MS one, although it seems to rend emails better.
Ultimately as I have a yahoo email account, i don't really need internal email clients and yahoo2go version 3 is just excellent. It is available for symbian, BB and WM. unfortunately the yahoo2go client looks [email protected] on the Athena VGA display - hopefully it will be updated for VGA WM soon.
Also, have you tried profimail ? I hear it is good. its not technically push, but set up with IMAP you won't notice the difference. There is a trial version
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail
Hi All,
I need some decent add-ins for outlook mobile. The limitations of this program baffle me! Does anyone know where I could get some decent add-ins that would allow me to flag messages etc. or is there a different email manager you recommend?
Ta
Which OS are you using? WM5 or WM6? In WM6, Pocket Outlook does a lot more...
WM6 . . . but it doesnt seem to have` much added functionality?
I've been looking for how to flag my outlook emails and it says it's now supported in WM6 and I've even found sites with screenshots showing a 'Follow-up' option that when you select a email appears in the menu.
However I don't see it in my menu and the best reason I can come up with is that it requires the Exchange Server be running the 2007 version and I think my office is still running 2003.
Can anyone confirm, Exchange 2007 is a requirement to be able to see the Follow-up > Flag options appear in our menu?
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Can anyone confirm, Exchange 2007 is a requirement to be able to see the Follow-up > Flag options appear in our menu?
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Hi. Yes.. I'm using Exchange 2007 and you can flag messages in your inbox for follow up (but you can't set any reminders - only flag the message).
You can also view your e-mail in HTML format.
Andy
Since I upgraded to WM6 I am not using it anymore but FLEXMAIL 2007 might be able to help you out? Link: http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail&dir=wm
Ditto that for FlexMail 2007 - works great for me
hey guys from prophet forum!
had started this service out to TYTN users and figured i should spread the news around to some of the other boards. if you guys are looking for push email, please get in touch here's what i posted in the tytn forum:
I'm now offering exchange mailboxes to users (subscription based service). right now i see two, one by austindkelly in the wizard forum (he's disappeared for over a month and looks like he doens't offer his service any more) and one by denial in the kaiser section ($5/month). I thought I'd offer up a similar service starting with the hermes group (cheaper of course) with a few extra tidbits of joy...
- supports iphone exchange services, saves a heck of money over apple's mobileme service!
- outlook web access (with the advanced interface)
- 1gb quota
- both SSL as well as standard port options
- *IMAP access* - you don't even need outlook, syncs flawlessly with your phone.
- *MAPI* outlook access - hook up your outlook on your PC to sync with my service which in turn syncs with your phone. no plugging in ever needed!
- alias included (get your own email)
- changing your password through outlook web access (one-way non-reversible encryption).
I figured it's a bit of an overkill having my own exchange server that's serving a single account (i.e. mine). so why not open it up!
Price is $10 for 3 months, $19 for 6 months.
Please PM me if you're interested... I'll probably set up your account within 12 hours (probably less).
And yes, will give you unused credit money back etc etc if you're unsatisfied for whatever reason. I'm really not in this for the money, it's more to utilize something I spent hours building up, plus to cover the costs of my internet / server hardware.
And, as usual, if you need any files hosted for xda-developers just let me know, i'm already hosting over 40 ROM images and serving 5-6gb/day in ROMs from the wiki!
cheers!
free accounts:
will provide 10 rotating free accounts at any given time for test purposes, will base it off of usage. so if you use the free account, i'll keep it up indefinitely, if not then account will be removed after 14 days and given to the next person in line.
Free accounts have 50mb storage, and have no alias, and no MAPI access...
Depending on utilization I may increase this 10 free account limit.
two account requests from a couple of hours ago have been set up - please check your PMs
few people are asking about synching from multiple sources...
from my understanding i can only give you one alias for your accounts, which means you can't select your "from." however you're free to forward as many accounts as you wish to the account i create for you, but you can only send from one "alias."
another multi-synching thing people are asking is whether you can sync calendar with your desktop and email with my service. sure!! its best that way in fact - that's what i do. i have my outlook on my desktop which has my calendar, contacts, and only sync my email via push on exchange to my server... you can even take this a step further and set up IMAP access so what you see in your email client is the same as what you'll see in your pocket outlook... if you delete from your desktop, whoosh it disappears from your PDA too
this is stupid,why you people just sign up in gmail.com and start using all of the above,even better for free???
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this is stupid,why you people just sign up in gmail.com and start using all of the above,even better for free???
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everyone please say hello to the latest clueless forum newbie.
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everyone please say hello to the latest clueless forum newbie.
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JAJAJAJAJAJA!!
MAPI (i.e. desktop outlook) access is now enabled
still plenty of resources to use up so drop me a line if interested!
Hi chameleon. I have sent you a PM - I am keen to give this a try. I have read through the thread in Hermes section. Glad you have MAPI sorted now.
Clearly Zeroed doesn't understand the power of Exchange Server!
I read that you are using Exchange Server 2003. Do I presume you have it patched with SP2?
Thanks for providing this service. I will comment here how it works out for me as a Prophet user.
Richard
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Hi chameleon. I have sent you a PM - I am keen to give this a try. I have read through the thread in Hermes section. Glad you have MAPI sorted now.
Clearly Zeroed doesn't understand the power of Exchange Server!
I read that you are using Exchange Server 2003. Do I presume you have it patched with SP2?
Thanks for providing this service. I will comment here how it works out for me as a Prophet user.
Richard
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hey richard!
account set up check your PM. yep, using ES2003 with SP2.
quick note: MAPI will be a subscriber-only feature, but i'd be glad to enable it for the test users (PM me) for testing purposes.
cheers!
going to take the server down for about 15-20 minutes this afternoon for a quick reboot and offline backup. planning for 3:00pm GMT. please be patient, hopefully it should be done much much faster!
Hi friend,
Any chance you would be upgradin ExServer 2007 in the near future?Would like to try that out...
hi there,
won't be upgrading to exserver 2007 unfortunately; my hardware doesn't support it
quick question - has anyone here managed to get this to work with outlook '07? if i recall someone had, but someone pointed out that they get an error message saying that this version of outlook has been blocked by the administrator, which just isn't true
updates: outlook '07 started working - user discovered you just need to enable cached exchange mode.
i also have a couple of trial accounts left for those i turned down last week if you're still interested, shoot me a PM
Quick update regarding update in the server!
I know I've had some VERY avoidable downtimes this past few months. Because this is running on a laptop it has been unplugged from the power / ethernet while its been moved.
however good news! I've just purchased a replacement - a nice server
Specs - dual core AMD 5600+ with 2 gb RAM, 820gb storage (for those attachments ).
i'll do the switchover soon as i get the machine, should hopefully take 10-15 minutes as i just need to image the drive across.
once i get the machine i'll push up the trial accounts to 15 or 20 so if you're interested i'll post here when the migration is done and you can drop me a note
cheers!
been getting a few PMs recently about whether i still offer this (maybe its the iphone crowd finding a cheaper alternative to apple's crazy crap service!).
yes i do and i think users can attest to the fact that since the upgrade to the new server been up and running at 100% since june!
drop me a PM if any of you need service. and yes, it is compatible with the iphone - i use it on my iphone too.
quick note - yes there was a 3 hour outage between 5am and 8ish am on saturday; sorry about that. seems my ISP went down, given how short the outage was and how this was the first one in god knows how long i didn't bother spending 1/2 an hour on the phone with them figuring out what the issue was will chase it up if it happens again though!
can someone who has successfully set up outlook 07 with my service PM me with the settings they've used? i need to get some instructions on my site on how to do it, and i don't use exchange 07 myself...
thanks!
UPDATE Now offering Exchange 2010 accounts - fully compatible with latest outlook, html email etc!
Information and registration at https://exchange.etbox.info
I'm using rom as in my signature.
gmail & hotmail accounts setup as pop3 have suddenly stopped working, I get error message like below .
messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device
make sure settings & connection correct & try again
Settings are all correct & we got same fault on more than one HD2 and same via wifi or 3G .
Assuming certificate issue or protocol change the WM6.5.5 inbuilt mail app can't handle .
Had a cert expired warning message for some time but could click accept to carry on ignoring cert issue !
What email situation others having on WM6.5.5 roms ?
Will look into certs & updating but any info from others would be good ...
Well after some research & testing it is ssl protocol change.
mail works fine on a no ssl test setup, after some searching & replies in other threads issue is crypt.dll in wm6.5 only supporting sha1 and now sha2 in use .
newer crypt sha2 is available but looks to need implementation during rom building rather than easily copying/patching it in a device running rom. :-/
Unable add crypt files to roms that protected, unprotected roms would probably work with simple copying of crypt files to running rom but as most are protected (inc NRG) then it will not work.
Also unable dump from protected nbh so will need start from scratch.
If NRG had supplied a kitchen sometime after he retired from WM development it would of been a 15minute job to add the newer crypt package ...
2 easy email solutions is third party apps, profimail & nPOPuk, both work but built in outlook was/is a neat mail client.
amazingly the nPOPuk open ssl works as had better protocol standard .
apps added below if needed (all freeware). npop not nicest to use but is light & runs sd card with no installer .
Other solution is using rebuilt roms with crypt.dll already fixed. Poyensa has done this & some can be found in WM6.5 Rom area .
Try Re-routing Emails Through Local Email Service
Firstly, thank you for continuing to provide support for the magnificent HD2 - I'm on my 5th and will continue until it proves impossible - I'm currently using the Australian Telstra model T9193 but have also had a U.S. T-Mobile model and the original T8585 model.
Secondly, I had the same problem with emails for the last 12-24 months as GMail, Microsoft, Yahoo and others progressively increased their POP3 email security to TLS exclusively, however there are still many email services that continue to use SSL only, for example, iiNet and Telstra, both in Australia. All I do is make use of the free option provided by all the major email services, to forward all my emails onto another email service, from where they can come directly to my HD2 and via which I can still send out emails. For example, I configured my POP3 Microsoft Outlook email account (and others) to forward all arriving emails onto my POP3 iiNet email account, which in turn forwards all emails that arrive there onto my HD2 WM6.5 Pocket Email manager App. It all works seamlessly, just as it always did when all the services arrived separately.
The only confusion that may arise is if your correspondents realise that you give one email address which they can use to contact you but all your responses come from another email address. Frankly, no one I communicate with is savvy enough to even notice.
Cheers, and thanks again.
^ That is a good point .
I do the same for my mums phone as she has a tiscali email with ability use old ssl or none.
Problem is I have no services offering suitable email or see any available. another option could be via web hosting if you got one and have some email setting control .
Is a pain, shame the dll not easily overwritten in device rom as easy tidy fix for everyone .
Thank you for researching this. I had to pull my Tilt2 out of retirement when my M8 tanked on a WM10 build. Was able to revive it, but now that I've got the Tilt out, I plan to at least catch it up on things...
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Unable add crypt files to roms that protected, unprotected roms would probably work with simple copying of crypt files to running rom but as most are protected (inc NRG) then it will not work.
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Dude, this crypt dll is a part of XIP - that means - no way to copy anything to ready rom. Besides - yesterday I just for fun cooked 29366 rom for Leo TMOUS - even with new crypt dll in xip outlook sync does not work. So - just forget it. Gmail seems to work.