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Does any1 ever thought about programming an answering-machine for the XDA :?: Or where do I find such a tool :?: Would be nice to have the missed calls directly on the XDA without using the Provider Mailbox (no costs for me to check the calls).
Sure, I know that this only may work if the XDA is connected to the network. :wink:
Greetings,
Kaputter
The answering machine idea is kinda cool, but really probably wouldn't save much on system usage, at least in the US. When someone calls in and goes to voice mail, that call is free. When you call to check it, you pay for that. So...if the incoming call is answered and recorded by the device, then you will pay for that. Net result--same cost. Actually it could cost more, because you could retrieve multiple voice mails in one call, but each call in would cost you at least a minute.
Its about functionality
It is not so much about cost as about functionality. Think of all the fun stuff you could do if you could program your own voicemailbox. Use callerid, special voicemail dropbox functions, only let your best friends ring you normally and dump the rest to the voicemail....
The idea of selective calling is very good--but would not need a voice mail system on the XDA, since it could just pass on the "deny" command when the call comes in. This could be useful for those times you don't want to be disturbed unless it is critical. Of course, you could do fun things with your own voicemail like having funny outbound messages only for certain people. I used to have that on my landline PC-based voice mail using CID. Actually it occasionally had a business pupose as I could leave custom messages for clients. Since you can already record phone calls, it doesn't seem like it would be very difficult for a programmer to play a message and then start recording.
In the US, the voicemail systems use CID to allow you to return a call directly from voicemail, for example. Used to be that my carrier would send the CID with the voicemail notification SMS, which was handy, but they stopped now for some reason. How are things like that in Europe?
... So...if the incoming call is answered and recorded by the device, then you will pay for that. Net result--same cost. Actually it could cost more, because you could retrieve multiple voice mails in one call, but each call in would cost you at least a minute.
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When the XDA receives the call and records it like the mailbox of the provider it won't cost me a Cent. Only the caller has to pay. Like the answering machine at home.
That thing with "...only let your best friends ring you normally and dump the rest to the voicemail..." would be nice too. Like the little proggi CALLERID where you can attach different pictures to different callerid's.
Only the caller has to pay.
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In Germany you don't pay for incoming calls to your cell phone?
Carlos said:
Only the caller has to pay.
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In Germany you don't pay for incoming calls to your cell phone?
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YAP.
So what's to keep people from making a one-minute call just to say, "Call me back" and getting their calls free?
It's kinda amazing that this kind of software is not around (yet). Would be very cool to carry a pda+cellphone+answering_machine in one device. And it would save me the money my telco charges me for listening to my voicemails aswell!
Well Carlos
Well Carlos,
The caller pays the charge so it is never free. Actually in the UK, it does cost slightly more to call a mobile.
That's interesting to learn. Long ago when cellular was still analog here in the US and cost $0.35/minute, we had the option of having incoming caller pay services or not. The mobile user decided which to use. It was not very successful because of our antiquated phone systems compared to Europe's, and there were a number of ways to beat the system. All of that completely disappeared when Sprint PCS first launced at $75/1500 minutes and completely turned the cellular world upside-down.
I haven't seen any discussion of the main reason I would like this capability - to be able to listen to my messages while I'm on a plane. The answering machine idea wouldn't save me any money, but I'd love to be able to listen to messages when I'm out of range, in a bad building, or on a plane. I wish someone would develop this. I'd buy it.
Now that is finally a reason I can get behind. My travel schedule recently backed down to infrequent, but I don't know how many times I paid $2/minute to use an air phone in the last couple years, just to get my voice mail and make notes/tasks for call backs, etc.
Hear, hear.
There is another reason that I would like this. Every time someone leaves me a voice mail, T-Mobile sends me a SMS to tell me that. I only get so many SMS messages each month and I have to pay for them. If the bulk of my calls were received and recorded on the PDA, I wouldn't have this problem.
Another thing, sometimes I retrieve a voice mail and there's information in it that I have to take down. If I don't get it right, I can't go back and check the message again, unless I saved it, which I usually don't, and then it would cost me again to go back and listen to it again. I just like the idea of having the information locally, under my control. Then the fun things that could be done with caller ID and customized greetings would be icing on the cake.
Any programmers reading this? My son works for T-Mobile and he tells me that they are selling the PDA/phone like hotcakes. Now AT&T is selling it, too.
I'm 99% sure the voicemail notification SMS does NOT account against your allotment. Also, if you have GPRS, that gives you another 300 or 500 SMS messages per month.
I'm with you on the rest of it though.
Hi!
Just found something about the HP Jornada 928 Smartphone. It has an integrated answering machine.
Does anyone know if this is software or hardware?
Look at
http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?lc=en&docName=bpia2573
or
http://www.palmtopman.com/Pocket PC.htm
Interesting. That would be software, definitely. As usual, the Jornadas come with so much more bundled than most. I can't believe they're being dropped in favor of the crapPAQ.
So what would be the chances of being able to copy that program from the Jornada 928 and getting it to work on the XDA/T-Mobile?
Probably not high. I have tried to copy other extras off the Jornada 568 and I get a message saying that you cannot copy programs stored in ROM. So it's only possible if either the program also comes on the Jornada CD (worth a look) or someone knows how to get around the copy protection on the ROM.
I've looked at the list of software on the CD and it's not listed, but I don't have access to an actual CD. Anyone know how to copy this program from the 568 ROM?
Hi guys, I am looking for some way (software ?), that enables the XDA/Qtek to send and receive SMS picture messages (EMS) -not MMS- using only the GSM network and not the internet, and that is, of course, a stand alone function, I mean by this without having to use a Nokia GSM phone or any other GSM phone.
Thanks for your help
All you really need is an app that associates a particular SMS string with a particular picture. You'd then install this app to both devices - sender and reciever.
You'd open you app, pick a picture and hit send. The app would then send an SMS string, say, 'picture1' via SMS to the receiving xda. That unit would have the app running that would pick up the SMS 'picture1' and, having associated that string with the picture you want (presumably picture #1, for the sake of argument) will display that picture.
That's effectively all EMS does on other handsets (not quite, but effectively) - that's why you can't usually see EMS sent between different devices. Different devices from different manufacturers set up the (proprietary) EMS in different ways.
Try the Philips C12 to the Nokia 7650, for example, then you'll see what I mean.
Tekflow - I think you're talking about EMS - ie the SMS extension 2bit picture format made popular by Nokia phones. I quite miss this, as most of my friends have Nokias, and I often used to send EMSs to them with my 9210.
I've looked into this myself a bit for PPC/PE - the situation's not too good:
Sending is relatively easy, just build the SMS in the correct format and send it out, however receiving it is a nightmare.
Unfortunately, Microsoft have made a complete mess of SMS receiving functionality on the PPC/PE OS, only one single application can ever have the SMS handle open for receive at any one time for a given message protocol (and these are not very fine grained basically Text, Notification, WDP, WCMP, Status and Raw).
This application by default is the SMS handling application of the PocketPC/PE. So basically, you can't use it otherwise you loose the default handling.
On Symbian, it's sooo much easier. There's a 'chain' of receivers, so you just register for a particular message, scan it, and if you don't want to process it, you just pass it on to the next application in the handler chain.
It might be possible to completely rebuild the SMS handling application from scratch, get rid of the default handler, and replace it with your own, however there's quite a lot going on under the surface with SMS handling, so this would be extremely difficult.
One thing you could try is getting the messages after they have been received and placed in the inbox using MAPI. I'm not sure if this would work, as IMHO MAPI is a hopeless API too, and propably would bletch at a SMS type that wasn't plain text. It's worth investigating though.
There are two EMS softs for Pocket PC but not for the "Phone Edition".
These softs used AT commands instead of RIL API.
But as with last ROM it is possible to have access to internal modem with AT commands, these softs should work now.
eMood Messenger for Pocket PC :
http://www.emoodsoft.com/doc/emm for ppc.htm
Pocket Presence SMS Manager :
http://www.pocketpresence.com/smsman.asp
But EzOS (developer of EzWAP 2.5 MMS) proposes MobyKit, a library to develop SMS/EMS/MMS :
http://www.mobykit.com/tech_messaging.php
Anyone knows if there is a possibility to send and receive picture messages (EMS, not MMS) using XDA II ? All the available software I found are not compatible with Pocket PC Phone Edition.
I'm looking for the same as well.
Worse still, the PPC or WM2003 default SMS software does not even NOTIFY or do anything when it received an EMS message. In fact, it did nothing .. I suspect it ignored anything apart from SMS, it didn't even store ANYTHING from an EMS. Some normal phones at least receive the EMS but display garbage on SMS, on Xda II -- zilch !!! NOTHING. Try it.
Smart GSM
Guys, I think Smart GSM is the solution. Try it and let me know the results.
http://www.smartsoftworks.com/download/
ems 4 qtek 1010
do this program work for pocket pc phone edition like qtek 1010 (xda)?
did anyone send or receive a EMS successfully ?
I use SuperAlert to give me repeating alarms for calendar and task notifications. Unfortunately, it doesn't do SMS notifications, and I miss some due to just not hearing it or being away from the device. Am I the only one?
i WISH
it's the most annoying thing about this phone. you never know you missed a call unless you actually go look at it.
i want it!!
I used to miss SMS's too, but found a neat little trick (and it's free too)
Just go to settings, notifications and select Inbox:New SMS Message, then tick Flash Light and set No limit in the duratins box. (I've done the same for missed calls myself) and if the light is flashing (three times as fast as usual) I have either a missed call or a new SMS
Work great on both PocketPC 2002 and Windows Mobile 2003
Cato
Hi, folks!
I search since one week after a working SMS blocker for my HD2...
The OS is: Artemis v32 with WM 6.5.5 COM5 Build 23577
I test the free CallFirewall v1.4 with all possible settings, it doesn't work
Please help me
Everyday I get more than 10 SMS from a creepy little ba... I hate him so much!
First I would sent a SMS to the person requesting that he stops sending SMSs to you. If he keeps on, then contact your mobile phone company about the harassment you are getting. They may be able to block that number or even pass your complaint to the person's mobile phone company - as it is more that likely a breach of the terms & conditions or even pass it to the police (telephone harassment in the UK is a criminal offence and it may be also in Germany).
I sent him 3 SMS in the last weeks that he stops sending SMS's to me.
For him its a joke! A 25years old man without friends, he think its funny... oh man
This evening I will call him for a little conversation, tell him what's are this options.
But I think it won't be better after...
If anyone have a working block software for me, also shareware please tell me, so I can forget him... everyday SMS, every hour... it makes me CRAZY!!!!!!
It's not what you asked for but, there is at least one denial of service app (sends hundreds of sms, crashing/freezing the phone of the recipient) on this site somewhere, and also a class zero sms sender (so they would be anonymous).
If you have unlimited sms you could crash his phone for a while, though you would be no better than him and subject to the same laws.
I have a black list of contacts. I want block incoming and outgoing sms for this contacts. How block incoming sms I know, but how about outgoing sms?
Please, help me with this task.
Thanks a lot!
I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
As for incoming sms have you tried applications like Call & SMS Filter or Call Blocker X?
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I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
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It's not so easy
I want to block some contacts, so that my children never have written to them
I can think of 2 options quickly:
1. Don't let the kids use the phone
2. Buy them their own phone
I suppose an application could be created to do what you want. Or maybe something like adding a password to certain entires in you Contacts.
I'm actually finishing-up an app that functions as a SMS spam blocker; maybe my next app will be adding a password function to Contacts.
Just checked android default sms app and sms content provider source code, it looks like it's not possible to intercept and cancel outgoing message. It's a pity that we're not able to add this functionality to our future parental control app.
I'm not overly impressed with whomever coded the SMS and Contacts databases and have given considerable thought to writing my own. I found this out when writing my SpamText blocker which I kind of put on the back-burner due to fear of deleting ALL text messages from someone's phone. That whole "thread_id" is scary, at least to me.
I like the "conversations" feature of SMS, but it really should be broken-down by day or make any text in the conversation deleteable. I might get 10 texts from one person in a day, but just might want to save 4 of them because they have some valuable information.
Then there is a security issue with coding this type of application; Android gives the developer a lot of rope regarding messaging.
If your children are the one whos playing with your phone, why don't you use one of those pw locking apps? You can choose to lock whichever app you want with it.
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If your children are the one whos playing with your phone, why don't you use one of those pw locking apps? You can choose to lock whichever app you want with it.
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I think the use case is just to allow children to sms and call to fixed numbers only.
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or make any text in the conversation deleteable.
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You can't delete individual texts? What?
Nope, at least on my Droid X default SMS client. All distinct phone numbers and SMS messages are grouped together in a "conversation" no matter if that person texts 10 times in one day or 100 times over 6 months.
I know you can set a message limit, but I'm not sure what it does if you set it to 5 and get the 6th message from the same #; maybe someone else knows...
I have been searching for blocking outgoing test messages also but for a different reason.
I live near the border and allthough my phone is set to only my home network every now and than it switches to roaming and pretty often I send text messages by accident while roaming. Sometimes it switches networks while I am typing the message or it looses connection and I am at the mercy of which network it will connect and send the text message.
So an app that would block outgoing text messages while roaming (or maybe even only sending on home network) would come in very handy.
Why don't you just delete the contacts? Easiest solution
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Why don't you just delete the contacts? Easiest solution
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You should read my post! Obviously I need all my contacts to call/text whenever I am not roaming!
I m also interested in blocking outgoing msg to specific number, my wife is Canada so she send me msgs from her canadian phone no. and I reply to serbian one, which is free - included in my monthly fee, but every now and than i reply to her canadian which costs me, and it wouldnt be big of a deal, but my courier dont have contract with hers so they charge for the sms, which she doesnt receive, so was trying to find a way to block outgoing msg to her canadian no. but need to be able to receive from it
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I m also interested in blocking outgoing msg to specific number, my wife is Canada so she send me msgs from her canadian phone no. and I reply to serbian one, which is free - included in my monthly fee, but every now and than i reply to her canadian which costs me, and it wouldnt be big of a deal, but my courier dont have contract with hers so they charge for the sms, which she doesnt receive, so was trying to find a way to block outgoing msg to her canadian no. but need to be able to receive from it
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As far as I know there is no way of intercepting outgoing messages. very strange that we can do almost anything on a smartphone but have very limited control over basic operations like sending text message options.
Same goes for LED notification, should be standard on all phones. (2 of my biggest annoyances espcially as it concerns very basic phone operations)
Android system does not provide a way to block outgoing SMS.
The similar question was discussed on Android Developers hung out on
26-Apr-2012, and Android Developers stated clearly that it is not
possible.
One suggestion was to put the phone into Airplane mode at the time of
sent SMS intent, but again its unlikely to put the phone into
airplane mode pro-grammatically.
The similar issue has been already discussed on android-platform Group
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want to block foreign sms's
I also have the above problem of my wife sending texts to foreign countries and getting charged. Usually she sends via fishtext which is affordable but every now and then if she is in a hurry or forgets to use the fishtext widget she sends via normal sms mode which costs a ton.
I cant believe there is no simple app to stop the user sending sms's.
Everyone has a 'cute' solution (like delete the contacts lol!) but they don't realise the difficulty of trying to manage another persons phone but one that you still have to pay the bills for e.g. kids or spouse.
Surely there must be an app out there that does this although I can currently find it!!!
Anyone??
There some app in android send sms without permission
It is always not easy when children are involved in any process They are so quick that sometimes it is difficult to notice that they have taken your phone and started pressing buttons. When you realize it, it is already late and the messages have been sent.
Why not get an app locker and lock the messaging app.
On a per contact basis, many apps have block features built in but not to block sms completely.
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I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
As for incoming sms have you tried applications like Call & SMS Filter or Call Blocker X?
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Some apps send messages without your consent.
And even some ROMs.
For example son phones (Xiaomi) with MIUI try to send an SMS to China to activate your SIM but they don't do it well, it doesn't work you spend money every time you reboot your phone.