Greets,
I cooked up a 4.00.16 ROM at the ROM Kitchen and installed it. I then purchased and installed Microsoft Voice Command. I know that hogs a lot of space, but there are several files that I'm not sure go with Voice Command. They all start with MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft and are all 2.7 Mb each.
Any clue as to what these are? File Explorer and Total Commander put the \Windows folder at 61 Mb. How is this possible on a 32 Mb device?
The MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft represent the internal databases on the pocket pc. They are stored in ROM and do not take up usable memory.
The reason the \Windows folder shows 61mb's is that most of it is stored in ROM on the device. I believe the XDA has 32mb's of ROM and 32mb's of memory for installed programs.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
hypr said:
Greets,
I cooked up a 4.00.16 ROM at the ROM Kitchen and installed it. I then purchased and installed Microsoft Voice Command. I know that hogs a lot of space, but there are several files that I'm not sure go with Voice Command. They all start with MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft and are all 2.7 Mb each.
Any clue as to what these are? File Explorer and Total Commander put the \Windows folder at 61 Mb. How is this possible on a 32 Mb device?
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FYI
They suggest that you install Voice Command to Main memory, but I find that it also works/runs pretty good from the SD card. So you might look at that as an option for regaining some of your Main memory.
Oh yea if I'm not mistaken the regular T-Mobile PPCPE comes with 32MB RAM and the T-Mobile MDA comes with 64MB RAM.
HTH
T-Mobile MDA? I didn't know there was a difference between that and the PPCPE. I thought people were just using the terms interchangeably as they do XDA/Siemens SX56... etc.
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T-Mobile MDA? I didn't know there was a difference between that and the PPCPE. I thought people were just using the terms interchangeably as they do XDA/Siemens SX56... etc.
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Ok I stand corrected its the T-Mobile MDA II that has the 64MB RAM.
Check it out at: http://msmobiles.com/article.php/54.html
HTH
MDA II from T-Mobile--AKA Deutsche Telekom
Just to clarify for others--I am fairly certain that's T-Mobile in Europe, aka Deutsche Telekom that will be selling the MDA II.
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is there any good version of WM 2005? i mean it will not only detect 30MB ram but 125MB ram....... can give me the link? what is the difference between the WM 2003se 2.20.00 and 2.20.07??
Ive said this before, please read it..
WM2005 doesnt detect 30 or 32meg ram, it detects all 128meg of it. It just doesnt use it. at all. Not a bit. Nothing. Nadda.
The missing ram is not a bug, its not a problem its a DESIGN FEATURE of wm2005.
WM2005 uses ENTIRELY FLASH. this is to prevent data loss in the event of battery failure. New wm2005 devices will have much larger flash storage so this isnt going to be a problem.
The fact that the memory program shows the flash being used for running program memory as well as storage says that wm2005 DOES NOT use ram for programs at all. I expect ms will drop ram from the future spec for devices in order to lower chip count and simplify designs.
The 32meg OS memory holds the windows ROM, its write protected. no way to edit it live.
the 32meg DiskOnChip holds the Storage and Extrom, these are partitione d in some way to 2 roughly 16meg sections.
WM uses the storage partition for storage, Duh. It maps it over the windows directory and all file changes and additions are put in there.
the ExtRom directory is used for running program memory. It kills the extrom.
Remember that due to the way MS cant count, differences in the way they measure Bytes, kilibytes etc (1000 or 1024 people?) and filesystem overhead the numbers wont add up exactly at the end. But trust me, unless anyone can PROVE me wrong, this is what happens.
It may be possible to make use of the ram as a storage disk, but a custom ramdisk program would have to be written.
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oh ya hw about WM 2003 SE version 2.20.07? is it translated version? is the fonts like very rough?? the WM 2005 safe to use?
Is this (WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar) newer then this
(WM2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_FullRAM)
getting confuse.
I have a few question, please advise me.
1. extracted either files, and found that there is no (ms_) and (Radio_)
is this normal ?
2. i saw Radio 1.7.
Do i need to put Radio 1.7 together with NK.nbf and HimaUpgradeUt.
3. As for Protocol
Do i need to grab from the WM2003SE upgrade files?
I have read Wiki, but it did not mention about Radio 1.7 and Protocol
please guide me.
keithhiap said:
Is this (WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar) newer then this
(WM2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_FullRAM)
getting confuse.
I have a few question, please advise me.
1. extracted either files, and found that there is no (ms_) and (Radio_)
is this normal ?
2. i saw Radio 1.7.
Do i need to put Radio 1.7 together with NK.nbf and HimaUpgradeUt.
3. As for Protocol
Do i need to grab from the WM2003SE upgrade files?
I have read Wiki, but it did not mention about Radio 1.7 and Protocol
please guide me.
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WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar :shock:
to my knowledge g could be newer than f the one in the full ram version, so this potantially could be newer, as for the files ms & radio they have to be in the same folder as NK, regarding the protocol i have no idea what do you mean so please explain further
Basically, i am trying to claify by comparing WM2003SE files.
You see, when you extract WM2003SE, you will see 3 files (MS, NK and radio) right?
And in WM2005, you only see 1 (NK).
So, by my understanding, there is no Radio, and MS(in this case, this is protocol) in WM2005
Does it means that do i need to copy Radio 1.7 FTP: xda:xda and (MS) from WM2003SE into WM2005 folder?
pardon my english.
i see the screenshot for WM2005, and it has the radio 1.7 and protocol 1337.38
this really confusing me
Also reading the upgrading procedure. is just use patch 1, patching the NK files
then use ERedit and change the operator
this leads me that this file is only for OS.
So, as for radio and protocol (here i means , MS and radio), it is copy individual from different files and place it into the folder WM2005(here i mean going to upgrade)
thanks
by the way, this file WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar is only 6.08MB, which is smaller then WM2k5_XDA2_HIMALAYA_O2_FullRAM (23MB)
Huh, I downloaded it and my rar file was 23695Kb, the extracted NK.nbf was 32769Kb.
I need my device at the moment so I dare not risk the upgrade at the moment. If anyone has performed the upgrade please post a line if it was successful.
cheers
hey guys,
there is nothing wrong with it...
i just uploaded it onto ftp. so if you have downloaded something smaller than usual size, you did the download before it was completely uploaded...
And yes, it is the newest version....
buzz
buzz_lightyear said:
hey guys,
there is nothing wrong with it...
i just uploaded it onto ftp. so if you have downloaded something smaller than usual size, you did the download before it was completely uploaded...
And yes, it is the newest version....
buzz
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Buzz,
what are the enhancements done on it ?
Btw thanks you for the hard work once again...
buzz_lightyear said:
hey guys,
there is nothing wrong with it...
i just uploaded it onto ftp. so if you have downloaded something smaller than usual size, you did the download before it was completely uploaded...
And yes, it is the newest version....
buzz
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Thnx Buzz, I just did the upgrade, no problems.. seems more stable... at least after running it for 5 minutes :wink:
Changes.log
Buzz,
Great and awesome work as usual
Just wondering if you can post a changes log or something so we can see any updates / changes you guru's have made
Just one question, in the final steps when we have to hardreset the pocket it's says format storage, it's internal storage or storage card?
eloco said:
Just one question, in the final steps when we have to hardreset the pocket it's says format storage, it's internal storage or storage card?
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It's the internal storage eloco... Storage Cards ramain the same.
I'm getting reports from Newsmobile.it forum that this "g" version doesn't exposes the whole 128MB RAM amount........... :?:
Perhaps are there some additional steps to do?
I'm getting reports from Newsmobile.it forum that this "g" version doesn't exposes the whole 128MB RAM amount...
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just flashed mine & memory is showing 62.00 for Storage and 56.34 for Program. I can live with 118 if this this image stops sucking my battery dry.
Can you list the differences/improvements?
Is the NAND Disk renaming to Sotrage the only change?
Can you list the differences/improvements?
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I'm still waiting to see an improvement. Even with the slightly newer kernel I still see my battery dropping approx 1% per hour. Maybe that's OK, but with my radio, BT, and IR off I think it should do better than a 25% / day drop. If my radio was on, for 8-12 hours then 25% (maybe 40%) makes sense. I do notice that ActiveSync seems to load itself periodically (which I never saw using WM2K3SE), and I assume my serial port is being energized whenever AS loads. This could account for the power drop, but I'm still observing it. I haven't seen anything I could point to as an improvement.
I was hoping to see an improved video camera and working SMSs... :wink:
Oh well, I'm willing to wait whatever time necessary for better and better releases of BuzzMobile5.0
WoW another version from Buzz.... Buzz can u please whats the diff between the old and the new pls..
i've upgrade my xda with 1.50g, it works just great, with more stability on my device, but still with the minor bug (camera, and record button). i can see the program memory is bigger than the 1.50f, so i can open the 3mb excel file freely. now i can use the wisbar advance 2 without a bug, i think....
gadz, or anybody else with WM5, have you tried Wisbar 2.10.0.29 ? When I tried to run it, it would lock up until I renamed lrgwesex.dll. I'm also experience small graphic hic-ups, is anyone else?
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1977&start=15
The WM6 OSrealy works great but i got one problem with it only updates te OS rom since its a g4 device and u updated with the shell tool so my t-mobile rom is still there and when the first time I boot and the os is completed the starting up procedure the T-mobile codificasion kicks in and starts putting old software on my pda wich is not deletable and it also messes up my contacts list. what to do now? can you kill this mof before it instals ore something? please help! cant use the contact list and the gps connection. really like the shell tool by the way!
I'm not sure about WM6, but in WM5, if you softreset your phone just before (eg, just after the security setup) they start putting in the t-mobile stuff (from EXT ROM), you ought to able to get a clean OS.
Just delete (and backup if you wish) the files in the extended_rom with total commander (point to \extended_rom).
vippie said:
Just delete (and backup if you wish) the files in the extended_rom with total commander (point to \extended_rom).
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But it already mest up my normal contacts so wont i be delething them to?
I'l try another rom and reset. can you see the difrence between soft en hard reset? because i never know how to do it right. do you guys have a suggestion wich rom i should use with the t-mobile version I used the pdaviet 3 now.
vippie said:
Just delete (and backup if you wish) the files in the extended_rom with total commander (point to \extended_rom).
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I cant find the extended_rom location? do you use total commander on your desktop pc or on the pocketpc.
ihagens said:
I cant find the extended_rom location? do you use total commander on your desktop pc or on the pocketpc.
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Open Total Commander on the phone itself. In the top "search box", type: \extended_rom
You will then be able to see what's in the extended ROM.
hello,
i have two questions about theses roms here:
1. some roms have the 3d cube from the HTC touch enabled. is this cube loaded into the program memory (ram) all the time or is it only loaded from the rom during the first usage? i don't use it and i don't know if i waste some ram or not.
btw: is it possible to create some .cab files for touchflo and this 3d cube? with that no extra touch roms would be needed and everyone could install them on his neutral windows mobile 6 rom, which flashed on this device.
2. in the past we could unlock the extended rom and use it as a normal storage memory. is there any way in windows mobile 6 to use it like that?
LordDeath said:
hello,
i have two questions about theses roms here:
1. some roms have the 3d cube from the HTC touch enabled. is this cube loaded into the program memory (ram) all the time or is it only loaded from the rom during the first usage? i don't use it and i don't know if i waste some ram or not.
btw: is it possible to create some .cab files for touchflo and this 3d cube? with that no extra touch roms would be needed and everyone could install them on his neutral windows mobile 6 rom, which flashed on this device.
2. in the past we could unlock the extended rom and use it as a normal storage memory. is there any way in windows mobile 6 to use it like that?
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Yes to all questions
1. The cube is loaded one into the memory and stays there
It's possible to make cab files but that will slow donw to os
2. yes you can open the extrom and use it as storrage
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
"Bootphase"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash]
"Folder"="Flash Disk"
"MountAsROM"=dword:1
"MountHidden"=dword:0
"Name"="FLASH Disk Block Device"
"PartitionDriver"="mspart.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash\FATFS]
"MountAsROM"=dword:0
"MountHidden"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
"MountHidden"=dword:0
that should open the ext rom
thank you gullum for your reply.
about the cab files: if these additions are loaded into the ram during the boot, whould it still slow down the device on normal running? afaik the rom is as fast as the normal storage memory.
LordDeath said:
thank you gullum for your reply.
about the cab files: if these additions are loaded into the ram during the boot, whould it still slow down the device on normal running? afaik the rom is as fast as the normal storage memory.
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I'm not shure about that but when these extra apps cab around they were all cab files before we got them coock into the roms and our phones got slowed down to their knees
ok.
and about the extedend rom: it becomes visible, but i can't write anything on it
after updating my htc snap to windows mobile 6.5.Mapking 2007 cannot be install into my device.Can anyone help?
What about contacting the creator of the software?
fishballnice said:
after updating my htc snap to windows mobile 6.5.Mapking 2007 cannot be install into my device.Can anyone help?
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how to help when you're not specific about what the problem is? what do you mean by cannot install? what error msg is there? I'm using mapking on wm6.5 on a touch pro and it works fine.
lukesky said:
how to help when you're not specific about what the problem is? what do you mean by cannot install? what error msg is there? I'm using mapking on wm6.5 on
a touch pro and it works fine.
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My Mapking 2007 just hangs at the splashscreen. This is after I had upgraded from NAFT's 6.1to 6.5 (NRGZ28). Subsequent downgrades to NAFT's 6.1 and then upgrade to other chef's 6.5 led to me thinking..i need HTC HD2.
if you run a check on the official website MK2007 and MKR12 are temporarily not supported on WM6.5. So even if you get urself a HD2 it doesn't solve the problem you're facing. If you really need MapKing, go back to WM6.1
just in case u'r wondering when will it be supported, you have to ask MapKing developers only they have the answer. My guess is there will be a new version of MapKing for WM6.5
Oh... no wonder I can't seem to get MapKing working on my more recent ROMs. But thought I had it working just a while ago (and I was also on a WM6.5 ROM then). Unless it's only with regards to specific builds.
I am using HD 2 and I am also using mapking 2007 on my device.
in fact, i havce mapking 2007 also on my blackstone which is also running on 6.5
I am using Asus P535 with WM6.5 28005 and MapKing 2007, both work fine
fishballnice said:
after updating my htc snap to windows mobile 6.5.Mapking 2007 cannot be install into my device.Can anyone help?
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Can this explanation help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4923302&postcount=13
lengendxd said:
Can this explanation help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4923302&postcount=13
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Don't think that's the case for me. My MapKing's installed in 'Program Files\MapAsia\MapKing2007'. Doesn't exceed 128 characters.
Thing is I always get stuck at the splash screen.
Perhaps it's really with regards to some builds of WM6.5 since it works for some of you.
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Don't think that's the case for me. My MapKing's installed in 'Program Files\MapAsia\MapKing2007'. Doesn't exceed 128 characters.
Thing is I always get stuck at the splash screen.
Perhaps it's really with regards to some builds of WM6.5 since it works for some of you.
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I think you don't get what I am trying to say..
Is there any file that exists in any deep directory?
For example..
\Program Files\Folder 1\Folder 2\Folder 3\Folder 4\Folder 5\Folder 6\file name...
As long as there's a file in any folder or folders that has a path name longer than 128 characters, Mapking won't work..
May I propose something..
Try to install Mapking in different location.
If you installed in device, and Mapking cannot work, try to install in Storage Card..
Or if you installed in Storage Card, try to install in device..
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I think you don't get what I am trying to say..
Is there any file that exists in any deep directory?
For example..
\Program Files\Folder 1\Folder 2\Folder 3\Folder 4\Folder 5\Folder 6\file name...
As long as there's a file in any folder or folders that has a path name longer than 128 characters, Mapking won't work..
May I propose something..
Try to install Mapking in different location.
If you installed in device, and Mapking cannot work, try to install in Storage Card..
Or if you installed in Storage Card, try to install in device..
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Uh, your 'any file' meaning any file belonging to MapKing? Or just any file in the entire phone? Cos if it's just any file belonging to MapKing, I don't think there's any that exists in a deep directory. But anyway, I'll try installing in Storage Card (since I installed in Device (though all along I've been installing in Device and it was working ok)).
Basically Mapking will search only in either 1 of the 2 places.
If it was installed in the device's memory, it will only search there.
If it was installed in the Storage Card, it will therefore search the Storage card.
Any file, not necessarily belong to Mapking.
For example, if Mapking was installed in the device's memory..and inside the device's memory have such a file with a path name more than 128 characters..
\Program Files\Ancient Literatures from the past\Best literature for leisure reading\My favourite author\This book definitely must be read\The best text that you must ever read\This text file is really very long to read.txt
The Mapking can't work..
Hey you're right! Installed it to my main microSD but it still didn't work. Then tried installing it into a spare microSD (that didn't contain any other files) and it works! Think for Device itself it might be due to the additional files from TF3D while for my main microSD, it might be due to my MP3s (cos they're stored in sub-folders). Now gotta figure out a workaround for this (cos I can't be using a separate microSD just for the MapKing).
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Hey you're right! Installed it to my main microSD but it still didn't work. Then tried installing it into a spare microSD (that didn't contain any other files) and it works! Think for Device itself it might be due to the additional files from TF3D while for my main microSD, it might be due to my MP3s (cos they're stored in sub-folders). Now gotta figure out a workaround for this (cos I can't be using a separate microSD just for the MapKing).
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Glad to be able to help.
Maybe you can just rename the folders or the files..
Anyway 128 characters for path name is quite enough..
Now if only there was an application that could help list down the directories/files that exceeded 128 characters...
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Now if only there was an application that could help list down the directories/files that exceeded 128 characters...
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If you installed in your main Storage Card, maybe you can use a card reader to copy all the things to your desktop pc.
Then with the Mapking installed in that main Storage card, slowly delete 1 folder by 1 folder. Until the Mapking can work.
Then you will know, which is the culprit. After that, just rename that file to another name..
Hi,
I was on Touch Cruise which comes with MapKing! R12
Just upgraded to HD2, thus installed the R12 on it.
It does not work, giving me
Device check failed?
Program terminated...
Anyone can help? Thx