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Hey guys, ive been reading many threads regarding issues with the sx56, but after going through most of them, it seems ive been left with more questions. Anyway, my problem is , first of all the reception sucks, signals drop every now and then and i hate saying "sorry? ur breaking up" now from what ive learnt so far from most of the posts is that this "signal" issue is due to the radio stack. My siemens sx56 is running:
Windows Mobile Pocket PC 2003
Model No.: PW10B1
ROM version : A.30.09.ENG
ROM date : 01/01/04
Radio Version : A.33.02
Protocol Version : 1.3.3
now, i have been thinking that maybe i should try downgrading the radio stack while still using ppc2003 , but ive seen many posts in which people have bricked their phones due to downgrade.
Another thing is i forgot what was the default radio version before the ppc2003 upgrade (as i think the signal strength was somewhat better prior to this upgrade) So just to be on the safe side, could any of you recommend me which radio stacks i can use? the ones i see on LumpiStefans site are:
RSU Version 3.23
RSU Version 4.16
RSU Version 4.21
RSU Version A20.10
RSU Version 6.24.20
RSU Version 6.25.02
from what i have figured the A20.10 might be the one which was originally installed in the phone when it came with ppc2002 just a guess since there are no other versions above which has an A in the start.But would downgrading kill my phone?
Now the next problem is the volume problem, that INCREASING ring is quite stupid, ive tried disabling the PDA volume and let the phone volume on full, the increasing ring problem goes away but it raises another problem of JUST ONE RING thats it, it just doesnt keep on ringing, just rings once and then goes silent. Do tell me if this is also a radio stack problem or is there any solution for it.
And yeah , finally, is windows mobile 5.0 any good? is it better than the windows mobile pocket pc 2003? and will it work on the sx56? in fact, are there any other OS besides ppc2002-ppc2003 which would work on sx56?
Thanks.
snakey said:
Another thing is i forgot what was the default radio version before the ppc2003 upgrade (as i think the signal strength was somewhat better prior to this upgrade) So just to be on the safe side, could any of you recommend me which radio stacks i can use? the ones i see on LumpiStefans site are:
RSU Version 3.23
RSU Version 4.16
RSU Version 4.21
RSU Version A20.10
RSU Version 6.24.20
RSU Version 6.25.02
from what i have figured the A20.10 might be the one which was originally installed in the phone when it came with ppc2002 just a guess since there are no other versions above which has an A in the start.But would downgrading kill my phone?
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The A20.10 and the 6.xx Version should work on your phone, cause it's a PW10B-Model....
Flashing of Radio Stack is everytime little bit danderous like all flashing.
If the process doing fine, there should be no problem. I would do removing the sim and doing a hardreset before flashing the radiostack....
snakey said:
Now the next problem is the volume problem, that INCREASING ring is quite stupid, ive tried disabling the PDA volume and let the phone volume on full, the increasing ring problem goes away but it raises another problem of JUST ONE RING thats it, it just doesnt keep on ringing, just rings once and then goes silent. Do tell me if this is also a radio stack problem or is there any solution for it.
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This is an issue of the A30.0x ROMs. If you're going to use the 4.01.12 then there won't be the increasing sound problem.....
snakey said:
And yeah , finally, is windows mobile 5.0 any good? is it better than the windows mobile pocket pc 2003? and will it work on the sx56? in fact, are there any other OS besides ppc2002-ppc2003 which would work on sx56?
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There is no WM 5.0 available for the Wallaby devices. Newest, but in my eyes really buggy ROM Version is WM2003 Second Edition....
Only othe rOS running on the Wallaby is Linux, but until now it's not running as complete, as you can use your phone and all the other functions....
Stefan
thank u for the reply stefan! just a few more quick questions:
1. How do i soft/hard reset? iam sorry iam new to pocket pc's.
2. The ROM u mentioned ,4.01.12, does it have any bugs i should be aware of?
3.Which radio stack do you think is better? the 6.xx or A20.10?
4.How do i install the radio stack and the rom? i downloaded the radio stack ZIP file and the rom is being downloaded. The radio stack zip file has no WIN32 executable file. Do i need to copy it over the phone ? how?
5. Should i install the rom first or the radio stack?
Thanks.
1. Softreset is pushing your stylus once in the little hole on the left side at the bottom.
For Hardreset you have to unscrew your stylus and push twice in the very little hole on the right side at the bottom.
2. The 4.01.12 has like all other WM2003 for the Wallaby the problem that under certain circumstands the sd-card will be formatted. I have used WM2003 for about 2 weeks and had this problem once.
3. Don't know which one is better. Never used one of them cause i have a PW10A-Model
4. You have to put the files in one folder on your SX56 and run the exe directly on the device. Pay Attention to have enough power....
5. It depends on you.....
Stefan
ok this is weird... i upgraded my rom to 4.01.12, after the O2 Screen, normal setup procedure comes.. the thing which bothered me was when i clicked on DEVICE INFORMATION..it is now showing model PW10A-MODEL whereas its a PW10B model,says so on the sticker, and the radio stack is still A.33.02 :S
its working though signal problems are still there... i tried the A20.10 and 6.xxx radio stack versions but they dont wanna upgrade , they give messages like "upgrade failed or retry". Should i try other RSU versions like 4.21??
or maybe i need to try that sd-bootloader method? if so, how?
ok you can ignore my previous post about radio stack, i guess i found the solution.
Radio stack upgrade only works if you copy the 4 files of any radio stack archive to the WINDOWS ROOT FOLDER OF YOUR WALLABY DEVICE!
copying to a seprate folder or anywhere else results in 1% hangup or upgrade failed messages. IT ONLY WORKS WHEN YOU COPY THE FILES TO THE WINDOWS ROOT FOLDER OF THE DEVICE . I just upgraded the radio stack to 6.24.00, lets see if it solves my the problem of bad and breaking up signals.
I still havent found out why my wallaby shows PW10A though :roll:
snakey said:
WINDOWS ROOT FOLDER OF YOUR WALLABY DEVICE!
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Could you specify Windows root folder?
is it \Windows\ or just \ ??????
snakey said:
I still havent found out why my wallaby shows PW10A though :roll:
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This depends on the ROM used. PW10A is static in the ROM. If you want it, I'm sure I can make a ROM where it's Type is PW10F .....
Stefan
its the \WINDOWS folder.
And the ROM i used was 4.01.12.
By the way, that 6.24.00 RSU kicks butt! havent came across any signal problems at all. Thanks a lot stefan! this forum rules! :lol:
and do let me know about this model version problem, do i need to install any other ROM which will display the correct model version i.e PW10B ??
Got fustrated
I hat the 4.01.16 ROm with 6.02 RSU, I've tryed to upgrade to 6.25.02, copy all files to Windows and the Upgrade to startup, but I kept at 1%, do a reset and after 10 minutes I got an error, now my phone is off, I cannot turned on, in settings I still had version 6.02 of RSU, If I use the Phone icon in Control Panel it says the fhone is off, turn it on and try again and there's the wait icon in the windows.
How can I restore my settings?, perhaps I tryied to updagre with poor storage space, the MS Voice Command eated allmost all RAM and I had to increase it, also I left the SIM while upgrading, any help will be wellcome.
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WhiteWizard said:
I hat the 4.01.16 ROm with 6.02 RSU, I've tryed to upgrade to 6.25.02, copy all files to Windows and the Upgrade to startup, but I kept at 1%, do a reset and after 10 minutes I got an error, now my phone is off, I cannot turned on, in settings I still had version 6.02 of RSU, If I use the Phone icon in Control Panel it says the fhone is off, turn it on and try again and there's the wait icon in the windows.
How can I restore my settings?, perhaps I tryied to updagre with poor storage space, the MS Voice Command eated allmost all RAM and I had to increase it, also I left the SIM while upgrading, any help will be wellcome.
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please let me know if you find the solution...I have the same problem
Thanks
Yes
Yes, The solution was to put all files on the windows folder and execute the update program from that location, the procedure continues to 100%, and then, I think it reset my machinne, and when it boot again I got the new RSU installed and the phone was able to turn on again, automatically.
Good Luck
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WhiteWizard said:
Yes, The solution was to put all files on the windows folder and execute the update program from that location, the procedure continues to 100%, and then, I think it reset my machinne, and when it boot again I got the new RSU installed and the phone was able to turn on again, automatically.
Good Luck
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can you tell me whcih version of RSU you used?
I have PW10B1 model and I load the XDA-Developers ROM Version 1.1 but I still have problems with RSU..I tried almost all RSU from ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wallaby/ but no succees...
if you have the same model maybe you can send me by email your RSU version...please!
my email is [email protected]oo.com
I have 6.25.02
I'm using the 6.25.02 version, the very same files that had failed with then 1% problem, the trick was no to put anything in the starup folder, do not soft reset before the procedure.
Simply navigate to your Windows folder with any file explorer and execute the update program. Give it time to finish, ensure that the procedure reach 100%.
Good Luck
Re: I have 6.25.02
WhiteWizard said:
I'm using the 6.25.02 version, the very same files that had failed with then 1% problem, the trick was no to put anything in the starup folder, do not soft reset before the procedure.
Simply navigate to your Windows folder with any file explorer and execute the update program. Give it time to finish, ensure that the procedure reach 100%.
Good Luck
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I just did this but when I'm starting at 1% the status bar is disappearing and it seems that is doing nothing...is this normal?
Did you had the status bar until 100%?
Perhaps you have a wrong ROM for that RSU
Remember that you must have the rigth ROM for a given RSU, all Win2003 require RSU version 6.x, if you hace downgraded the ROM you'll need an older RSU.
Sorry
Yes, I saw my status bar reach 10%, 20% and so on, ultil it reach 100%
Re: Perhaps you have a wrong ROM for that RSU
WhiteWizard said:
Remember that you must have the rigth ROM for a given RSU, all Win2003 require RSU version 6.x, if you hace downgraded the ROM you'll need an older RSU.
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here is written tu use for their ROM, XDA-Developers ROM Version 1.1, and PW10B-Model RSU Version 6.24.20 ....but is not working with this also (...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_GSMError
Hi,
I just got my hermes / tytn yesterday and from the first hour on I try to get the device upgraded to wm6 or english (it came with a german image)
Here is the software versions i currently got on it after installing cid unlock and so on.
rom-version: 1.18.257.2
radio version: 1.16.00.00
protocol version: 32.53.7018.01H
extrom version: 1.18.257.106
I tried to upgrade it with RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10_108_Ship
WM6_21005_GER_11500
The detection steps of the upgrade work fine. But as soon as the device boots in the bootloader it just stays at the 4 color screen with the following infos:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.10.Oli
It doesnt start the upgrade and after a while the program on the pc gives me a connectionerror.
Can you help me to track down the error? I read around the wiki and forums but couldnt find anyone with that error.
Thanks and regards,
Passi
EDIT: just to add: I also tried to install hard SPL7 which didnt work because I get the following error when I start the application on the hermes:
Datei oder Assemblyname'System, version=2.0.0.0,Cultur=neutral' Publictoken=.......
Anyone seen that before?
1. Make sure your XP computer has .NET v2.0 or later installed to use CustomRUU.
2. Upgrade to HardSPL latest version
3. Extract the NBH file from the upgrade (use winrar or 7zip) & flash it using CustomRUU.
ok, that worked now. Only problem now is that the radio version of the image i used wont work and my tytn is stuck at the htc screen now. It shows no gsm for about 1 second at the beginning. I will try to reflash another vendor image using the smartcard method in about 10 minutes. Hopefully that will work.
Thanks and regards,
Pascal
I tried using the flash with sdcard method but somehow it wont work. My bootloader is SPL-1.04. I copied an nbh file over to the card, renamed it to HERMIMG.nbh and reset the device to enter bootloader. It shows loading for a part of a second and then returns to regular bootloader screen.
Any ideas what could be wrong or what could be done to flash the image with the sdcard method?
Thanks for any help,
Passi
Edit:
after reformatting my sd card with my pc i finally got the bootloader to recognize the image. Sadly, still no success at all. The bootloader recognizes the flash file but then gets stuck at the checking.... point. Is there any way around that? Im really out of ideas.
Closing this thread as you already posted in the right one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755
Hey there. I think this is in the right area, if not I apologize. This is my first attempt at using a phone from another service provider on my service.
a little background information..
Im currently on the tmobile network and have purchased a cingular 8525. I bought the 8525 used and it currently has wm6 as well as the following:
M 05
s 04
b 06
r 1.16
g 32.53.7018.01H
D 2.15
I have already run the HTC sim/cid unlocker. I have the phone recognizing the sim card and can make calls and receive calls. Im trying to install a tmobile rom onto the phone to get away from cingulars. I installed the latest version of activesync and am currently able to sync with my computer as well as browse my phone via my computer to add/modify files.
The problem i'm having is when I run the official tmobile 2.26 release rom (for the MDA) once I go past the first two steps of the process its attempting to connect to my phone and comes up with error 224 saying my pda is not responding. I have it plugged in via usb and it is showing as connected. I've checked the phone's usb settings and nothing appears wrong.
Does anyone have any insight to what I need to do to be able to install a tmobile rom to this phone? Would it already having WM6 cause any issues with trying to install a 2.26 rom for the MDA?
Thanks!
Before you brick your new toy go read the WIKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you have a new bootloader (HardSPL 1.40 if you used hermes unlocker v3a), and the rom you're trying to install uses a RomUpgradeUtility which is intended for old bootloaders (<= 1.09). Extract the NBH and use CustomRUU to flash it.
BTW, if you have a radio rom > 1.27 (with htc_boot 0108) the T-Mobile WWE rom available will brick your device because it has an old radio (1.05.02.00 with htc_boot 0106).
So if you want the T-Mobile rom the path should be:
1) Extract NBH from T-mobile upgrade exe file
2) use nbhextract to get all the rom parts
3) use nbhgen to create a new NBH file, containing only OS & ExtROM
4) Flash the new NBH with customRUU.
Read the wiki and the sticky threads on this forum before attempting to do anything, or you'll end up with a brick
I hope that you mean T-mobile MDA Vario II as opposed to the MDA which is a different phone that the Cingular 8525 (Herm100). You cannot install a ROM from a different phone type (through most install methods).
However, you can install ROMS designed for T-mobile MDA Vario II, Cingular 8525, Softbank X01HT, HTC TyTN (and it's other names; you are looking for TyTN form factor). See the wiki @ http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes as previously mentioned or do a forum search via google @ http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Be sure to read carefully about the process of upgrading ROMS before you upgrade it otherwise, your phone will be useless.
ryhian said:
Hey there. I think this is in the right area, if not I apologize. This is my first attempt at using a phone from another service provider on my service.
a little background information..
Im currently on the tmobile network and have purchased a cingular 8525. I bought the 8525 used and it currently has wm6 as well as the following:
M 05
s 04
b 06
r 1.16
g 32.53.7018.01H
D 2.15
I have already run the HTC sim/cid unlocker. I have the phone recognizing the sim card and can make calls and receive calls. Im trying to install a tmobile rom onto the phone to get away from cingulars. I installed the latest version of activesync and am currently able to sync with my computer as well as browse my phone via my computer to add/modify files.
The problem i'm having is when I run the official tmobile 2.26 release rom (for the MDA) once I go past the first two steps of the process its attempting to connect to my phone and comes up with error 224 saying my pda is not responding. I have it plugged in via usb and it is showing as connected. I've checked the phone's usb settings and nothing appears wrong.
Does anyone have any insight to what I need to do to be able to install a tmobile rom to this phone? Would it already having WM6 cause any issues with trying to install a 2.26 rom for the MDA?
Thanks!
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Hey guys.
Yes, I'm new here, but not new to phones or computers by any means - trust me.
In any case, what happened was I downloaded the XDA Live version of Windows Mobile 6 for my Hermes (originally Rogers branded) and installed it.
Then, I discovered the actual forum here, and saw Schaps' version of WM6 pro and I want that badly. Regardless of which version I'm trying to upgrade to, I get the same issue.
Here it is:
When I connect the phone normally with ActiveSync and try to upgrade to Schaps' ROM (or Dutty's, or the official one, or the T-Mobile one, or the Qtek one, anything), I get a 260 error saying that my USB cable isn't properly connected. Now I've seen and tried the fixes for that error with no luck. The other error I occasionally get is one saying that my device code isn't correct or something or other. And another one is that my image file is corrupt and that I should check my update utility.
What do I do?
ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
P.S. My bootloader version is 1.11 (I think) as per the following screen during bootloader:
HERM200
IPL-1.01
(The following part is in yellow below the above part)
HERM200
IPL-1.11
I had the same problem.
I then upgraded the boot loader with hard-SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Now it's working fine and I can load any ROM.
Cheers
Pat
I successfully upgraded to SPL-1.10, with the same result (no change).
I'm really unsure of what's going on with this...but I really need to upgrade to Schaps' TouchFLO ROM - and should be able to easily...
When you upgrade the rom, chose hard-spl (safe).
Good luck
Patric
When i tried to install any firmware the progress stop at 11% and the Hermes only turn on in bootmode, any idea??
rmorera84 said:
When i tried to install any firmware the progress stop at 11% and the Hermes only turn on in bootmode, any idea??
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I had that problem and few more with my Hermes.
While it didn't help me, this suggestion by ultramag69 may help you...
Use the sd card method to flash a new rom, instead of a USB cable/Windows computer.
1. Format a 2Gb or less sd card to FAT32, copy the large 50MB-90MB .nbh file onto it and rename to hermimg.nbh
2. Insert the card into your Hermes and reset to bootloader (hold OK & POWER and push RESET for a sec with the stylus)
3. If you haven't stuffed up the other steps, follow the prompts.
Hope this helps!
Just one other thing summoner, make sure you have Hard SPL V7 installed. Otherwise the ONLY rom I'd try flashing like that is the SHIPPED STOCK ROM. Its so the CID will be recognised and won't cause a brick.
rmorera84, unless you've installed Hard SPL V7 then find the SHIPPED STOCK ROM and flash that, anything else may permanently brick your Hermes.
If you have Hard SPL V7 (IPL 1.04, SPL 2.10 oli) then flash what you like...
Cheers...
- Installed latested Orange rom, that I know of - SPV_M3100_ROMUpdate_1007
- installed Hard SPL 7 & applied SIM unlock/super CID
- re-installed TNT TNT.19199_Professional_Hermes
The result is:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
I suppose I should upgrading the radio rom now!?
I am told don't try fixing what isn't broken - and it is working. 3G iNet, Phone, WiFi, BT - all good atm.
Or is there a particular update I should still install?
Thanks!
SUMM0NER, you're using an older, not so safe version of Hard SPL. The Hermes is downgraded to SPL 1.40 when you sim/CID unlock your phone. Best idea would be to re-install Hard SPL V7. Its a later version that seems less prone to problems when flashing.
Go back to the Hard SPL thread and get Hard SPL V7. I had the same thing happen to me when I unlocked the Hermes, nearly cost me my handset.
The steps are unlock Hermes, Install Hard SPL then upgrade OS.
Cheers...
Do I need to re-apply the OS rom file?
I just reinstalled Hard SPL7, now shows as IPL-104, SPL-2.10.Olipro.
Thanks!
My hermes only work whit this rom:Schaps_WM6Pro_ESN_3.54b-0808_Full
Because whit any other rom they stuck at 11%.
This is the info or the phone:
IPL-1.01
Spl-1.40.Olipro
Whit the first rom the htc boot but the phone funtion don´t work.
rmorera84, refer to my last post.
SUMM0NER, no. You have loaded the os, the reason you put Hard SPL V7 is if you want to upgrade the radio rom (not a good idea unless you are experiencing problems) or wish to change the os. Just means recovery is easier than if you didn't have it.
Cheers...
Many thanks ultramag69.
rmorera84 what branding is your Hermes (ie: Orange M3100, T-Mobile Vario 2, Vodeaphone V1605 etc...)?
Can I assume your Hermes is working right now?
If it is download and install HardSPL V.7 (attached to the bottom of the first post!)
Ones done verify that it installed correctly by holding the OK & Power button and pushing reset for a sec. The screen should display the coloured bars and say towards the centre: SPL-2.10.Olipro
It´s Cingular 8525, i could install the HardSPL V.7, now what rom i can flash??
You didn't confirm if it is working right now!?
If it is not working, try one of the official WM5 Cingular roms from this list. If that worked apply HardSPL 7 and take it from there.
Ones you downloaded the Cingular rom update you will have to keep unpacking the .exe files until you come to the actual .NBH file (WinRAR works for me).
Then follow ultramag69's instructions on flashing the rom via memory card.
Works, now i have this info:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.10.Olipro
I download the official Cingular WM5 rom, but. i don´t know how install this rom by memory card, could you help me??
Excellent!
Try downgrading to the Cingular rom via USB. Just double click the EXE and follow the instructions.
To use the memory card method follow these steps...
0. unpack the .exe file containing the rom with Winrar (right-click exe then choose "Extract to...\")
1. Format a 2Gb or less sd card to FAT32, copy the large 50MB-90MB .nbh file onto it and rename to hermimg.nbh
2. Insert the card into your Hermes and reset to bootloader (hold OK & POWER and push RESET for a sec with the stylus)
3. If you haven't stuffed up the other steps, follow the prompts.
The reason to use the memory card to upgrade a rom, rather than a usb cable, is to cut down on failed upgrades (dodgy Windows/usb port/usb cable/etc..).
All working? Try upgrading to a Hermes rom that didn't work previously.
Any rom you can find in the Hermes section. Go to the WM06 part of the forum, theres a sticky at the top with about 50 older roms and you'll find other roms there too (latest is wm6.5).
Cheers...
i install the official WM5 AT-T version the WM6 AT-T, but, i still whit the no-gsm problem, can i flash i radio? or what i can do??
You may not be able to fix this, if you know what the original SHIPPED STOCK ROM was and can find it, then flash that. It may not work, if it gets stuck at 11% - 17% mark it means the radio ROM is stuffed and the memory area is corrupted. Not fixable.
You could also try, if you know what it is, the original radio rom by itself. Again, if you can't get it to work, you have a PDA but won't work as a phone ever again. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Im to having the same problem, it keeps going back to the 2.1.Olipro boot loader.
I tried the memory card option and it starts to install but then stops.
Does anyone have and sugestions?
Cheers
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Hi, I got my Hermes 8525 in boot mode what i did is to install this Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_4.00_Full.exe now my hermes is working but i want to unlock it..what can I do cos everytime i try got in to boot mode again..any help tks.,..