Hey there. I think this is in the right area, if not I apologize. This is my first attempt at using a phone from another service provider on my service.
a little background information..
Im currently on the tmobile network and have purchased a cingular 8525. I bought the 8525 used and it currently has wm6 as well as the following:
M 05
s 04
b 06
r 1.16
g 32.53.7018.01H
D 2.15
I have already run the HTC sim/cid unlocker. I have the phone recognizing the sim card and can make calls and receive calls. Im trying to install a tmobile rom onto the phone to get away from cingulars. I installed the latest version of activesync and am currently able to sync with my computer as well as browse my phone via my computer to add/modify files.
The problem i'm having is when I run the official tmobile 2.26 release rom (for the MDA) once I go past the first two steps of the process its attempting to connect to my phone and comes up with error 224 saying my pda is not responding. I have it plugged in via usb and it is showing as connected. I've checked the phone's usb settings and nothing appears wrong.
Does anyone have any insight to what I need to do to be able to install a tmobile rom to this phone? Would it already having WM6 cause any issues with trying to install a 2.26 rom for the MDA?
Thanks!
Before you brick your new toy go read the WIKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you have a new bootloader (HardSPL 1.40 if you used hermes unlocker v3a), and the rom you're trying to install uses a RomUpgradeUtility which is intended for old bootloaders (<= 1.09). Extract the NBH and use CustomRUU to flash it.
BTW, if you have a radio rom > 1.27 (with htc_boot 0108) the T-Mobile WWE rom available will brick your device because it has an old radio (1.05.02.00 with htc_boot 0106).
So if you want the T-Mobile rom the path should be:
1) Extract NBH from T-mobile upgrade exe file
2) use nbhextract to get all the rom parts
3) use nbhgen to create a new NBH file, containing only OS & ExtROM
4) Flash the new NBH with customRUU.
Read the wiki and the sticky threads on this forum before attempting to do anything, or you'll end up with a brick
I hope that you mean T-mobile MDA Vario II as opposed to the MDA which is a different phone that the Cingular 8525 (Herm100). You cannot install a ROM from a different phone type (through most install methods).
However, you can install ROMS designed for T-mobile MDA Vario II, Cingular 8525, Softbank X01HT, HTC TyTN (and it's other names; you are looking for TyTN form factor). See the wiki @ http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes as previously mentioned or do a forum search via google @ http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Be sure to read carefully about the process of upgrading ROMS before you upgrade it otherwise, your phone will be useless.
ryhian said:
Hey there. I think this is in the right area, if not I apologize. This is my first attempt at using a phone from another service provider on my service.
a little background information..
Im currently on the tmobile network and have purchased a cingular 8525. I bought the 8525 used and it currently has wm6 as well as the following:
M 05
s 04
b 06
r 1.16
g 32.53.7018.01H
D 2.15
I have already run the HTC sim/cid unlocker. I have the phone recognizing the sim card and can make calls and receive calls. Im trying to install a tmobile rom onto the phone to get away from cingulars. I installed the latest version of activesync and am currently able to sync with my computer as well as browse my phone via my computer to add/modify files.
The problem i'm having is when I run the official tmobile 2.26 release rom (for the MDA) once I go past the first two steps of the process its attempting to connect to my phone and comes up with error 224 saying my pda is not responding. I have it plugged in via usb and it is showing as connected. I've checked the phone's usb settings and nothing appears wrong.
Does anyone have any insight to what I need to do to be able to install a tmobile rom to this phone? Would it already having WM6 cause any issues with trying to install a 2.26 rom for the MDA?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I had successfully used ShellTool to load Crossbow Reloaded v1.5 on my Xda Mini S (G4 CID-Locked)
But then I became inquisitive and I tried loading the WM6 Business Edition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302934
The process interrupted abruptly as the activesync connection broke (Don't know why that happened.) However I restart the device and now it is stuck on the initial blue O2 screen displaying IPL, SPL, GSM and OS information.
Now it is mentioned here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480
That if the device does not boot I should restart it in the bootloader (which I did), connect the usb and run RUU. But the download (Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2.rar) contains newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe and on running that I get the CONNECTION ERROR. I think this is happening because in bootloader, actyivesync cannot connect.
Sorry I am a novice in this... please help.
Regards.
Activesync will not connect from the bootloader. This is not a problem. Activesync is not needed to flash your phone. You just need the USB connection in the bootloader. As long as you see the letters USB in the corner you can flash.
Did you use the shelltool in the attempt to load the other WM6 rom? And if ActiveSync is required to use the shelltool then you may have to flash an official carrier rom in your current state (one that matches your CID so it will flash) and once your device boots again you should be able to use the shelltool and load the other rom that you want.
Personally this sounds like a big hassle to me and if it were me I would just pay the 25 bucks or whatever it is to get the unlocking software from the unlocker website and CID unlock my device so I could pretty much flash at will (G4 safe roms of course)
Downloaded the original rom from my-xda.com and it worked. Got the original system back.
Just updated to faria's wm6 using the same shelltool and all works fine. Looking at voip now.
thanks for the suggestion.
Cheers..
Hello all,
I Eb'd an HTC wizard (cingular 8125) running Wizard Love/NBD WM 6.
On the load screen I get:
AKU 2.3;
IPL and SPL:2.25.0001;
radio:2.25.11;
rom: 6.0.0.0.
My carrier is Tmobile.
Question 1: If my phone has this newer ROM and it takes calls on the Tmobile network it has been CID unlocked and SIM unlocked...right?
I wanna update my rom and think that I am competent enough to do so but there is alot to learn and this is not my full time gig...right.
Question 2: So, if I am correct in Q1 I should be able to flash roms right?
However when I attempt to do so the RUU gives me [error 224]. Active sync and or WMDC says its connected. (I installed the AS drivers in WMDC)
Question 3: Where do I go from here?
Question 4: The wi-fi is currently not working will a new rom potentially clear this up?
Thanks in advance for the time and advice..
grazie
hmmmm,
Well,did you updated to NBD wm6 yourself ? and how did you updated ? which method you adopted ? SoftSPL or HardSPL ?
You say its SIM unlocked as it takes calls on the Tmobile network .Did you SIM unlocked with lokiwiz03a ?
yes ! a G4 can be SIM unlocked but it can not be CID unlocked,however,it can be upgraded to wm6 rom,but with method either 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL'.With your present ipl/spl 2.25.0001 and you say its NBD wm6 running,then it must have been upgraded through 'SoftSPL' method,as it uses patched ipl/spl and Cid unlocks the phone temporarily,but it never permanently CID unlocks the phone.But with 'HardSPL' ,it changes the ipl/spl to a patched ipl 2.21.0001 and spl 2.21 olip.So everytime you want to upgrade,you'll have to upgrade using 'SoftSPL' method.
could you elaborate a little more about this.
Cheers!
Hey thanks for the correspondence zabardast_1, I have been getting frustrated and I have many times contemplated going for the brick or bust approach here.
So, I have done none of the updating on this rig. I rec'd it and I wanted it primarily for wifi however I can't get the wifi card/ (sdiowlan I believe) to even recognize an AP (... I posted in the networking forum but no response.) Thus my own reasoning leads me to believe I should start from scratch with a new rom unless you know of something else.
So, I am not the most savvy and thought that all of the info I had led to SIM and CID unlocked. I just read otherwise last night and in your reply. The info I have provided is accurate the IPL, SPL, radio, although I don't know which NBD release it is; just says 6.0.0.0 and release date: 2/2/07.
I am trying to get the new rom on the my device however and I would've probably already bricked it if I could get an RUU to communicate with my wiz. I always get [Error 224] when I run it and my phone is connected through active sync. I am running vista but have installed the AS drivers for WMDC. I also tried it at work the other day with XP same situ. I then tried flashing from the bootloader screen with an NBD, Wizard Love ( w/ Italian installer?), and T-mob (226102_22610105_022511). The only one that says it will update is the Tmob ROM, however I got cold feet at the update button and canceled.
Other funny stuff I have observed that may or may not be related to the problems I am having are:
Can't install cab files ie (enable rapi or Cert SPCS) and Wiz Sys Tools couldn't read my CID block and hard_SPL G4 gives me REXX error ( SPL_Version has no value).
So, any wizdom you or anybody can drop is much appreciated and needed at this point.
Whew...
Listen carefully. G4 Wizard cannot be CID-unlocked without paying money. (And yes, you are using a G4).
What you need now is to Flash your original stock carrier ROM (Or wizard love) to get your OS back. Then either use SoftSPL or install HardSPL and flash WM6 ROM.
Thanks Starkwong,
I will try installing wizard love tomorrow at work and if that don't work I will attempt a Cing ROM (will all of these work or do I need to mind my G3's and G4's for these???)
Grazie
So, It worked using Wizard Love at work and out of the bootloader window. Now I need to:
1.) Get wifi working.
2.) Get a newer ROM
I put a post up in the networking thread, I am a tool so far as these devices are concerned so be easy on me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372811
So do I get the wifi issue resolved before I reflash???
Thx again
I don't know what you mean by "wifi not working".
Maybe it is the wifi AP doesn't allow 11Mbps (802.11b) connections?
However, going to any of the WM6 ROMs should already set the registry to allow Wizard connects to G-Only APs. Just use HardSPL/SoftSPL and flash a WM6 and you will see.
OK so "wifi not working" may indeed be a general statement...
What I mean to say is that I am not able to connect to any wireless networks for internet not home (Linksys WRT 54G v5 with ddwrt firmware) or school (university wide) or my city's wifi network. It won't even detect them at least none that Ive seen since I've rec'd this phone. So, that is what I meant by the ambiguous statement.
So, being as your last post was a success I will try as you say and post the results tomorrow. Thanks again starkwong!!!
1 quick thing however, to be sure, I can now try the hard spl or soft spl method of tricking my phone to run an upgrade to WM6?
Still not able to get wifi APs????
OK although I have been successful at reinstalling the Mfg ROM and then Hard SPL'ing my wizard thanks to ya'll I still am unable to connect to a wireless network (see one even). I have the Olip on my SPL and I installed a TNT version of WM6 and I am still at work (drunk but still here). Anyway I can't see my wireless AP and I am beginning to think its a hardware issue if thats possible, i dunno the dynamics of this system maybe thats why it was for sale. In any event as usual I am willing to try what ever you guys throw at me as you're my only hope obi wan. Alright Im gonna go home for the night and try getting on to my home network.
Thanks again for all the help guys.
Is your device a original one from phone operator? I suspect your device is a China Dopod 838 with replaced casing, because the China version has the wifi hardware removed, so wifi can't be started even if an English ROM is used.
Looks to be authentic 8125
Starkwong, the Cingular logo and the 8125 model # are on the phone case where they have been when I've seen them before in pics. Therfore, I dunno I guess it looks like every other 8125 I've seen. Can I check the SN, IME or anything to be sure?
Thanks Again!!!
Starkwong,
I am getting all the options for wifi on my phone the LHS LED flashes green when I enable it and alternates blue green when BT is enabled. So, could it still be that its a dupod? I dunno but I am going home for the night... Thanks for your help. I will try connecting to my home network when I get there.
Hi everyone,my name's Larry and I just registered to the forums. Please forgive my newness but I am in a bit of a pickle here.
I have a MDA Vario II, aka Hermes 300, that I bought s/h off ebay. Works fine,no worries, but I upgraded to WM6 because i felt browsing was a little slow and the screen graphics werent as good as I expected. The upgrade was from the T-mobile site itself and all went fine. Only thing is I dont believe this phone can handle it(needs more RAM really) and after being online a while it gets really slow,like steerig a cow through treacle at times so I came to the conclusiong it was a bad move! Now I've noticed a link on here about downgrading to WM5 but is it that easy for one with no specialised tools or knowledge(tho i did build my own PC, or should I say ahem WE did)
Also a problem the phone has developed since the upgrade is it keep deleting my email settings, even tho on the 'desktop' screen it tells me i have so many unread emails in each account! So now i cant check emails from it either!
I do hope I can sort this out cos it is really frustrating having a PDA and not being able to browse properly!
Many thanks
Larry
Welcome to XDA-Developers larry. Well Firstly i would start with CID unlocking your device so that you can flash any rom you can do that by downloading hard spl from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then once you have flashed that you can basically download and install any rom for the hermes. I have an mda vario ii and hate the t-mobile rom as it installs quite a bit of useless crap. I never use and it is also so damn ugly. if after installing a new rom you find you have internet connection problems and/or mms settings then download and run this http://rapidshare.com/files/92547562/UK_Setup.exe that will install the settings for internet and mms for all uk networks, the majority of the cooked roms on here though ,already have a network wizard to set it up for you, but better to be safe than sorry
P.S. I forgot to add if you are looking for speed and extra ram i would look for a vanilla(clean) rom, install that and then add the apps you want via cab files, you will find them scattered about all over this site
scousemartin said:
Welcome to XDA-Developers larry. Well Firstly i would start with CID unlocking your device so that you can flash any rom you can do that by downloading hard spl from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then once you have flashed that you can basically download and install any rom for the hermes. I have an mda vario ii and hate the t-mobile rom as it installs quite a bit of useless crap. I never use and it is also so damn ugly. if after installing a new rom you find you have internet connection problems and/or mms settings then download and run this http://rapidshare.com/files/92547562/UK_Setup.exe that will install the settings for internet and mms for all uk networks, the majority of the cooked roms on here though ,already have a network wizard to set it up for you, but better to be safe than sorry
P.S. I forgot to add if you are looking for speed and extra ram i would look for a vanilla(clean) rom, install that and then add the apps you want via cab files, you will find them scattered about all over this site
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Ah thanks for that but I have no idea what CID unlocking is(do you mean like unlocking the phone to other networks?) Also what's hard spl?? Totally in the dark about this!
Hermes300 said:
Ah thanks for that but I have no idea what CID unlocking is(do you mean like unlocking the phone to other networks?) Also what's hard spl?? Totally in the dark about this!
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all your question answered here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
I have looked thru the wiki and cannot find the advice I need.
My device has the following on it and what I would like to know is if I can actually drowngrade the device back to WM5.
The rom version is 3.60.110.4 (T-mobile UK)
The radio version is 1.50.00.00 so I assume that it is boot 0108.
The IPL is 1.04 and the SPL 2.03.
The protocol reads as follows 32.83.7020.20H
I have come across a guide that states if the radio is above 1.27.00.00 then downgrading may not be possible.
"(NOTE: If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error.)" -http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27
The other question I would like to ask is this - it is possible to put another verion of WM6 on with this radio version?
Thanks for any advice!
Can anyone help me here!
Do I need to SIM unlock my PDA to update the ROM to a custom ROM, for example Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.30 which I recently downloaded from here.
At the moment it is locked to T-mobile. I have also updated the SPL to 2.10 olipro and the radio is at 1.50.00.00 and the HTC boot is 0108.
Thanks guys
Larry
Hermes300 said:
Can anyone help me here!
Do I need to SIM unlock my PDA to update the ROM to a custom ROM, for example Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.30 which I recently downloaded from here.
At the moment it is locked to T-mobile. I have also updated the SPL to 2.10 olipro and the radio is at 1.50.00.00 and the HTC boot is 0108.
Thanks guys
Larry
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I think you might not have gotten help 'cause it doesn't look like you've read what people pointed for you to read. Hopefully this'll help you get over the jargon hump and make progress. Having upgraded from the Offical T-Moble rom and swapped ROMs, it's definitely worth taking the time to learn how to do.
SIM unlock & CID unlock aren't the same.
If you've had you phone with T-Mobile for at least 3 month they will let Unlock you SIM (at least they do in the US). Contact them directly, you'll need an active account & phone number with them. This is free.
CID unlocking allows flashing ROMs onto your PDA. For some reason the folks at T-mobile, etc want you to have to look at their stuff every time you use a machine you bought through them. Using a cooked rom is like reinstalling XP without having AOL on your computer, makes life much better.
(flashing = installing to a PDA's Read Only Memory)
(ROM = OS + Radio + other stuff = basically everything thats on the PDA after a hard reset)
Flashing can be a dangerous thing, you don't want to 'brick' your PDA so you install an escape hatch. Hard SPL is that escape hatch.
(Brick = peice of baked clay = your PDA if a ROM install fails and you didn't install Hard SPL first)
The Hard SPL protects you if the ROM you installs fails 'cause power went out, ROM was bad, you bumped the cable, etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Read & Follow the directions.
Select a ROM from here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
I have the same model & just installed Custel V2.5, seems to work well so far (day 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364617
Good Luck
Thanks gt, and we have read advice on here but a lot of seems to be conflicting plus we seem to be just going round and round. Yep, ben there, yep read that etc.
I know the diff. between SIM and CID unlock but all I want to know is is it necessary to SIM unlock the phone to update a ROM?
I wont be using another network but will be staying with T-mobile W n W.
I did it!
Well I did it. flashed the phone with Schaps WM6 4.30 WWE.
Have noticed it runs faster than the previous T-Mobile WM6 and has some really neat features-you can adjust a lot more settings on the phone than before,quite impresed! Thanks for everyones help!
Hi. I have a G4 (ipl 2.25.0001, spl 2.25.0001) Wizard 8125. I tried to flash to a wm6.5 rom and i know i did something wrong. Everytime i try flashing a new rom it goes all the way to 100 percent and then once it reboots it just goes back to the bootloader screen and stays there. I had activesync off just like the threads say to do and still nothing. Its SIM unlocked since im using an ATT sim card instead of cingular (now att). I would either like the original rom back on this or atleast a wm6 rom somehow. I do have a radio rom upgrade too. Any help would be appreciated.
CID unlocked?
What rom are you using?
I don't think that changing your sim from Cingular to AT&T needed an unlock.
You may need to look at this:
forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52404&d=1190997171
Its a direct link to mUn's RUU. this worked for my CID locked phone.
Also, take a look at this page and go down to "G4 Only" it should answer many of your questions.
wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard%20Windows%20Mobile%206%20for%20newbies
i was trying to use a WM6.5.3. My phone wasnt bricked! I found the original cingular 8125 rom and fixed my phone. I did however after i fixed the rom issue i did CID unlock my phone with no problems. Also SIM unlocked it too to be safe. Yes you were right it didnt need a unlock to use an AT&T SIM on it either. But now im trying to get the original rom back on. I use the Iphone Killer WM6.5.3 Rom on this site and now i cant downgrade back to my original. The reason i want to downgrade is that the phone is severly slow with wm6.5.3 on it. Id rather just go to wm6 or wm5 again and stick with that.
double check
Are you getting the 3 clor screen?
Just plug the device into your computer and run mUn's RUU. It should update even though active sync doesn't show it as connected.
If you can't get mUn's RUU to work, plug the phone into your computer and load the wizard love rom or any 'CID safe' ROM. These ROMs are reccomended before running mUn's RUU.
Apologies for the new thread.
I bought a HD2 off ebay a few months ago and have a had numerious problems using it as a phone, goes from 4 bars to none every couple of mins cuts off mid call, basically doesnt work inside the house. I called HTC support & they took the serial number then told me it was a "demo" phone and unsupported, I went to the website to see if I could download a ROM update but my serial number was not accepted trying to download any of the roms.
It was running 1.66.405.2 ROM
So, using a serial number off here I downloaded the 3 roms off the HTC website and tried to install them everytime getting the "Invalid Vendor ID" error. I then installed HSPL3 then tried to install one of the 3.14 ROMS using the SD card route, it got to about 2% then rebooted with the error "Software update failed, please try again" and when i go to Bootloader it shows "SPL-3.03.0000"
Anyting I can try to get this back up? even if its just to give to the kids for playing music / videos!
Is it worth going down the goldcard route?
Regards
Paul
its just possible that you may be stuck, with goldcard the only option.
You made two mistakes.
firstly, using hspl to run a 3.14 rom leads to instability and memory problems. You cant do it that way with 3.14.
secondly, flashing the 3.14 rom from sd card was a double bad move, because 1 - its not for your device, and 2 - the fact that hspl is there lets it skip the warning initially and update the spl to 3.03.0000, which wouldn't have happened if hspl wasn't there.
You now need to find the correct stock rom for your device to downgrade spl 3.03.0000. Normally i would say find a 1.42 or 1.66 rom, (for the correct carrier if rom locked, or for HTC if not)
You didnt say which 3.14 rom you used (noob omission, lose a point ) se we cant yet rule an area out. for example, if it was the wwe htc 3.14, then we know the phone is branded (pretty likely if its a demo)
ALternative to trying every 1.66 rom you can find, is goldcard. That will allow the 3.14 rom of your choice (or indeed any stock rom) to flash no problems, hspl not required.
Yeah you learn by your mistakes!
Think I eventually got sick of the thing cutting off it was about as much use as a brick as it was! & HTC support were about as much help as hammer! Told me it was an old model & I should consider upgrading!
I've tried 1.43, 1.48, 1.66 all off the HTC website, went through all the other carriers as well entering my serial number in with no luck. The ROM i used was
RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship this is what was on it before I ran the update.
Os Version - 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.81)
Manila Version - 2.5.19211619.0
ROM V - 1.66.405.2
Rom Date - 1.11.10
Radio Version - 2.07.51.22.2
Is there anyway to find out who the carrier would be from the serial no?
only by trying to download every rom for every carrier for every region, and theyre not all on teh website,,,,
goldcard would be your best bet.
Is there any way to create a goldcard when you can only get access to the bootloader on the HD2?
The steps outilined in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642486
3:Get the SD card's Serial number & Make the Gold Card
--a: Unplug your HD from the PC and Plug it back in select ACTIVESYNC on your LEO
--b: Run PSAS, Calculators/Generators > Generate HTC GoldCard >
--c: Select LEO from the Drop-down box
--dress "Get SD Card Serial from WINCE Device"
--eSAS should see all the drives on your HTC Leo/HD2. Make certain the correct size disk is sellected. For example, I inserted a 512MB SD card so - Beneath the (CID) box you should see something like " Disk Nr.: 04 - Disksize 512 MB"
--f: Now that the correct disk is selected, press "Save Goldcard Image to WINCE SD"
--e: you should see "Done writing SD Card to WINCE Device.
I get the error message "could not open connection, device connected?"
When I turn on the phone all I get is the bootloader menu page!
Resolved
Ok its now sorted,
I bought PSAS and made a goldcard using my old HTC touch. I then installed the 1.66 rom before updating to 3.14
I still have the same phone reception problem, would it be worth trying a different radio to see if that would fix the reception problems?
Thanks for all the help and advice.
Paul
you can't change the radio when running 3.x, because there is no hspl to allow it, sspl can't flash radios and goldcard is for stock roms.
So I'd need to goldcard it back to 1.66 or such then try a few radio roms to see if it will fix the reception problems? Whats the chances a new radio would resolve it?