What does it mean that the GPRS is always on? I just got my XDA II recently and their is no connection until I starft the connection. Is it supposed to be on at the moment of a soft boot?
No.
It is an internet connection based on the xda's wireless application. If your post pay you'll be charged for its useage in relation to the amount of data you are sending / recieving. Tap ur signal bit and tap connect gprs to get it going.
If you wanted it to auto connect I'm sure there 's a reg setting somewhere.
What does it mean that the GPRS is always on
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it means that it dont auto shutdown after awhile to save money since most people pay pr. MB when it comes to GPRS
if you want it to start up connected you have to check the switch in CB-SOFT tweak called search GPRG on start radio
Rudegar said:
What does it mean that the GPRS is always on
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it means that it dont auto shutdown after awhile to save money since most people pay pr. MB when it comes to GPRS
if you want it to start up connected you have to check the switch in CB-SOFT tweak called search GPRG on start radio
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I guess it's good that T-Mobile USA has unlimited GPRS. I can't imagine paying by the kilobyte.
gprs -instant way to disconnect
active the o2 active menu and when ur gprs is on u will see gprs in the top bar instead of a big o2 keep your stylus tapped down on the gprs letters and a load of connections will pop up tap the one with the tick by it and u'll instantly disconnect! howz that!
If you hold down the red 'hang up' button on the xda 11 for 5 seconds it will switch off the GPRS
hay thanks for that! i dont trust my xda not making secret transfers and running up my bill so i prefer it off! and ive removed the o2 active menu cause its crap! as previously asked they say GPRS is always on because if a call comes in gprs will susspend for the duration of the call. therefore it'll always aim to reconnect!
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Hi Guys,
really dumb question ... how do you disconnect from gprs once connected ?
I can not see an end button anywhere !!!
cheers
i have just worked out that if you disable phone, it turns off GPRS...
surely that is not the correct way to do it? :roll:
sorry to nag .....
does anyone know how to cut gprs once connected ??
maybe its so obvious, noone knows it !
maybe its so easy, no one can be bothered to write ?
let me know please !
install monitor
Install the spb gprs traffic monitor is the answer.
You can also simply tap the signal sign (at the top of today screen), it'll show your GPRS connection and then you can simply tap end buttom Cheers
not on ppc2003 .,... there is no end button on the signal sign :-(
Install the spb gprs traffic monitor is the answer.
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is this the solution for PPc2003 ?? surely there must be an inbuilt feature which allows you to disconnect GPRS without the need of installing other software ??
please advise
I have the same problem and i asked in deffirent places in this forum but no anwser till now.
ARZLEB said:
Also i have a problem when connecting to GPRS there is no d/c button i had to push long the red close button to d/c my GPRS session after 5 seconds exactly i will loose service signal i have to turn off/on phone to re obtain signal!
any one noticed this?
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I hope someone would anwser this!
Can maybe the developers step and and show us the light?
Much appreciated :wink:
now have you got ppc2003 to connect to uk 02 grps?
what the correct settings as i can not get mine to connect at all
please pass the on
hi grim,
sorry mate, i only use Orange Gprs :?
try
Homepage: http://pda.o2.co.uk/
APN address: mobile.o2.co.uk
Username: mobileweb
Password: password
Email servers (POP): mail.o2.co.uk
Email servers (SMTP): smtp.o2.co.uk
DNS Servers: 193.113.200.200 and 193.113.200.201
nope I can not get it to connect to grps at all
i must be doing something wrong? anyone done it ok to 02 uk grps?
This appears to be a "new feature" of WM2003, always on GPRS . It does seem to timeout the connection after a little in-activity.
I'm in the same boat and cant for the life of me imagine why they have programmed this way. I can only imagine it's a bug and will be fixed.
Thought I was just stupid
We'll technically I am I was soft restting to stop it to start with
Looks like I'll have to put on Spb mon
You can also turn off the phone (tap the reception button and click "turn phone off"
and turn it back on !
also cuts GPRS
Right, Ali-Butt, it's also the way I do it ! : turn the phone" off",GPRS is also diseable, then come back to put the phone "on" ... if someone find a better way :idea: ....post-it please
Well the best solution i discovered is to use Sbp GPRS monitor, since you wont benefit from the Auto Connection / Disconnection while checking your email since the device will connect but never d/c. So all connections and d/c and done manually by you instead of using the Off / On methode use the Disconnect button in the GPRS monitor for the time being until they find a solution for this bug and yet you wont have to turn to phone off and on, consume power or someone calling in this exact min to find that your phone is switched off.
If you dont have Sbp GPRS monitor i am whilling to share it with the ppl having this problem.
:wink:
I've installed 2003 and it's all great. A few problems with the syncing but after 3.7 (strange, I had 3.7 anyway though since I've reinstalled it off the MS website it looks different to the 3.7 it used to be??) it did eventually work. Scary few mins though!!
I bought All-locations GPRS counter a few months back, but the one thing it doesn't really have is an end connection button. I also bought SPB's PocketPlus but it's saying that it's not compatible with PPC 2000????? Does anyone else have this problem? I've tried logging onto their website but it seems to be down all the time. This program used to automatically cut the gprs connection if say I'd loaded MSN and then shut it down. Very handy!! If anyone knows how to get past this or where they've put an update to work on 2003, please let me know.
In the meantime ARZLEB, if you could find it in your heart....
Cheers
V
'Always on' is a great idea, PPC2003 can disconnect automatically and re-connect when a phone call comes in so why is it an issue? The only reason I can think of is cost (if you have something polling the internet racking up MB's).
For delivering mobile applications and corporate push E-mail, this feature is essential.
These devices are not really targeted at the consumer market more at the business user so the carriers will love this feature to deliver extra services and generate GPRS data revenue.
Hi All
the best solution is the easy one , simply press on the hardware button ( the red button ) for about 2 seconds and it will disconnect the GPRS Connections !! easy ha !! :wink:
Cheers
Ahmad
Hi.
Got the Qtek 8500 Smartphone and Erofichs great Windows Mobile 6.1 on it.
Can anyone please tell me, how to configure the GPRS right?
The following thing happens:
If I open the Internet Explorer, surf, close it, GPRS remains ON.
Have to shut the connection manuelly down.
The worst thing, I want to automaticly download my emails every 30 min.
It works fine, but the GPRS connection remains still ON after the download endet. I dont want to shut it down every 30 min manually.
Is there any option to solve that?
Would be great if someone knows.
Thank you very much.
bloodyking said:
Hi.
Got the Qtek 8500 Smartphone and Erofichs great Windows Mobile 6.1 on it.
Can anyone please tell me, how to configure the GPRS right?
The following thing happens:
If I open the Internet Explorer, surf, close it, GPRS remains ON.
Have to shut the connection manuelly down.
The worst thing, I want to automaticly download my emails every 30 min.
It works fine, but the GPRS connection remains still ON after the download endet. I dont want to shut it down every 30 min manually.
Is there any option to solve that?
Would be great if someone knows.
Thank you very much.
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Thats normal behavior. GPRS is normally charged on traffic. So being online doesn't mean to transfer anything.
Bye
Yeah, but think about the battery
Dont want to charge every day.
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Yeah, but think about the battery
Dont want to charge every day.
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Sure but doesn't matter for me
I can't understand why there is no explicit "gprs connect" or "gprs diconnect button" by defaullt on Windows Mobile (Wm6 standard, at least).
(If gprs connection is the case)
Do you know why?
There are many situations where it is very important to handle with care internet connections
Was it so difficult to have similar behavior to PC connections?
cassetto said:
I can't understand why there is no explicit "gprs connect" or "gprs diconnect button" by defaullt on Windows Mobile (Wm6 standard, at least).
(If gprs connection is the case)
Do you know why?
There are many situations where it is very important to handle with care internet connections
Was it so difficult to have similar behavior to PC connections?
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Hey cassetto,
While I don't think there is an option to explicit connect (besides just going onto the internet which starts the connection), there IS an option to disconnect.
It was on my Windows Mobile 5 phone, so I have no doubt it's in WinMo6.
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
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Hey cassetto,
While I don't think there is an option to explicit connect (besides just going onto the internet which starts the connection), there IS an option to disconnect.
It was on my Windows Mobile 5 phone, so I have no doubt it's in WinMo6.
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
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(Excuse me for my English)
Thank you!
Anyway...
I don't consider it an EXPLICIT gprs disconnection button and I can't understand Operating System logic.
Since I cannot put that button ON there (button is normally disabled while, for example, active sync or bluetooth buttons are not), I did not try to put it OFF there.
Moreover, that button has no name. Only when enabled and ON, it is named "data connection". In settings/connections, more than ten connections are listed. SMS Service, USB to PC, VPN and so on. Somebody could consider many of them "data connection".
Somebody could wonder which connection or how many connections are currently responsible of that button enabling.
Which one would I disable pressing "data connection" button in comm Manager? All? Only one? SMS Service?
If more than one data connection can activate that button (in the same time), I can't know what that button does. Maybe It disable button but I don't know how many data connections are disconnected (only gprs?)
If at one given moment the only thing that a button can do is "gprs disconnection" and moreover it is enabled by gprs connection (and only by gprs connection), it should be named "gprs disconnection"
If more than one data connection can activate it, but not more than one at the same time, it should be named according to the data connection name.
Too complicated?
briguy992 said:
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
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Thats the point! You have to do it every singel time manually or it stays connected. As mentioned, I receive my mails every 30 min. So ill stick with the "allways on" situation or disconnect it manually every 30 min (which makes no sense at all)
why doesn't it disconnect if idle?
It seems such an obvious thing to do - if there's been no GPRS traffic for X minutes, drop the connection.
Has anyone got a way of implementing this?
landwomble said:
It seems such an obvious thing to do - if there's been no GPRS traffic for X minutes, drop the connection.
Has anyone got a way of implementing this?
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Code:
REGEDIT4
;Enable auto disconnect GPRS if not use 60 seconds
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"="GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
;Disable auto connect GPRS
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction]
"EnableCPHSONS"=dword:00000001
"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:00000001
Unless your plan charges you for GPRS connect time I can't imagine why you'd need to turn it off, I've never found having it on to be a problem or a major drain on the battery. I've had the 8500 about 18 months, use tmobile and have their data plan. Rather than turn it off why not just configure your applications for manual download? Just curious, what do you see that most of us don't?
Enable the GPRS disconnect button and/or timer
http://modernnomads.info/storage/users/4/4/cabs/Show GPRS Disconnect button and timer.cab
natong said:
Code:
REGEDIT4
;Enable auto disconnect GPRS if not use 60 seconds
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"="GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
;Disable auto connect GPRS
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction]
"EnableCPHSONS"=dword:00000001
"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:00000001
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How can I change from 60 secs to 5 minutes?
Can you please explain the conversion method, from 60 seconds to "CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
Thanks
manuel.
"3C" is Hex for 60. You might try to substitute it with "05".
Does not work
Above registry hacks do not work on WM 6.1 (Xperia). When the device is in suspend mode, and it checks e-mail every 30 minutes, it doesn't disconnect.
I have a HTC Fuze. The last few ROMS that i have been using (Energy, RRE, Tael), all the Apps always use the 3G internet to do their work even if a much faster Wifi is connected. Is there any way to make all apps(including things like email) globally prefer the Wifi when available? Also I dont want to have to keep changing settings to do this, It simply needs to be "If Wifi available use it, else use 3G"
Thanks in advance.
What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network. If anyone knows a better way, please let us know
no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
redskilldough said:
What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network...
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Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
k.electron said:
no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
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As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
rexian said:
Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
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no i leave wifi off normally to conserve battery.
Solarenemy68 said:
As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
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that is extremely failurous. not preferring the fastest internet connection is major fail. did not know that.
My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
|Jason8| said:
My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
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what the heck? how? u must help me find out..
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
wakady said:
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
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firiel said:
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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apparently its some sort of combo of this. i am using 6.5. any apps that have been using 3g continue with it. and i have to go to the comm screen and turn off data to force new apps to consume wifi. which isnt too bad, certainly not as bad as going to the network options. i would wish they made this a bit more seamless like with the desktop technology, i can switch from wired to wireless lan without even dropping a skype call.
firiel said:
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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now i have discovered a new problem. even if i open the app after i have wifi turned on and data turned off, some apps just dont want to use the wifii.
Bing maps and google maps for example just tell me there is no internet.
this is really pissing me off, whats the point of having wifi on a phone if the apps wont use it. i dont really care about the google location service if the data is through the internet, but atleast turn on.
lame.
So I've had this S743 for 3 days now and I thought I had it setup correctly to use wifi for data comm.
wifi enabled and selected to use my home network. I can see the radio tower status icon.
Under the comm manager data connection is off.
I have a very simple $45/mo plan with no data plan.
Over the last 2 days I have been surfing the web a bit did some email tests with my ISP and used the on board GPS app which is horrible. Not heavy usage but experimentation to see if I like how the phone works.
Then after 2 days I get an email from AT&T that I have extremely high data usage exceeding my account limit and that I should sign up for a data plan at once.
$29 over 2 days for this little bit of fluff? A total of 2,900kb in data.
So I call up AT&T and they tell me this and that and want me to sign up for a plan which I may do.
But I want to be able to know that the datacomm is happening via WIFI when I can see it's in service.
They also told me that all GPS data is forced through 3G and bypasses WIFI???
Can anyone here give me an idea about what I may be doing wrong and whether AT&T is correct about the GPS service?
Is there a better GPS app that doesn't do this? This one pretty much stinks anyway. A resolution of 1000 meters doesn't cut it.
AT&T also informed me that I can't have a smart phone without a data contract. Really? I've had one for 6 years.
Thanks for any light you shed on the subject.
One th I have subsequently found out is that if data connection is off and wifi is off then when I go into IE and start surfing it does bring up pages. Then when I go back to the Comm Manager the Data Connection is still off for an instant and then it automatically turns itself on as though it had been turned on by use of IE and the status was just being updated.
Is there any way to stop this?
The only way to completely stop data usage is to delete the APNs from within the Settings->Connections dialog.
ashasaur said:
The only way to completely stop data usage is to delete the APNs from within the Settings->Connections dialog.
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What exactly are APNs? I don't see anything labeled that way in that section on my phone.
Thanks for the reply.
Try to download the NoData app; google it. I believe it's freeware. Toggle all connections to "Disabled" and that should do the trick..
About the GPS; all I can think of is that the QuickGPS app (under desktop accessoires or whatever it's called in english) automatically downloads new info about the GPS locations.
GorillaHuman said:
Try to download the NoData app; google it. I believe it's freeware. Toggle all connections to "Disabled" and that should do the trick..
About the GPS; all I can think of is that the QuickGPS app (under desktop accessoires or whatever it's called in english) automatically downloads new info about the GPS locations.
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Thank you.
I did manage to delete the APN and that did work but now I've decided to keep this phone, put it on an AT&T GO-Phone plan and add a very limited data plan. So I will be trying to find a better way to make certain it doesn't always automatically go for the GSM even when you have it turned off.
I looked at your suggestion but it sounds like it conflicts with netframe 3.5 which I have installed.
phone setup:
i9100
android ver 4.0.3
baseband i9100mugld3
cf rooted
This may sound like a crazy question but there are 2 locations i'm at a lot that have 0 to 1 bars of 3g and an edge tower right on top of them. Anyway for some reason the phone almost always wants to grab onto the 3g and it is a horrible connection for both voice and data. I have wireless there so i really don't care about data but dropping calls sucks. Is there an app, solution, workaround to forcing the phone onto the cel tower i want to use instead of letting it decide to do the wrong thing?
thanks
Have you tried just turning off mobile data in settings?
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chewyboy said:
phone setup:
i9100
android ver 4.0.3
baseband i9100mugld3
cf rooted
This may sound like a crazy question but there are 2 locations i'm at a lot that have 0 to 1 bars of 3g and an edge tower right on top of them. Anyway for some reason the phone almost always wants to grab onto the 3g and it is a horrible connection for both voice and data. I have wireless there so i really don't care about data but dropping calls sucks. Is there an app, solution, workaround to forcing the phone onto the cel tower i want to use instead of letting it decide to do the wrong thing?
thanks
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Settings > Wireless & Network > More > Mobile Network > Network mode > select GSM only and it will only use the gprs connection. If you dont want to use the GPRS connection then uncheck the " Use Packet Data Option ".
I've actually tried that while it disables data it doesn't force a switch on the tower. I guess my title & original question isn't quite right.
so now i guess how do i force my phone onto a different tower so i can actually get good service when i need it.
I just use the switchpro widget, since then i can turn on and off a lot of stuff from my homescreen.
chewyboy said:
I've actually tried that while it disables data it doesn't force a switch on the tower. I guess my title & original question isn't quite right.
so now i guess how do i force my phone onto a different tower so i can actually get good service when i need it.
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Under mobile network settings, change it from auto mode to gsm only. I guess this is what you are looking for
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
Under mobile network settings, change it from auto mode to gsm only. I guess this is what you are looking for
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
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actually i was just about to post the gsm/wcdma/auto to get it to switch over. However it does not always work sadly. I remember on an old moto (forget model) that i could actually choose a network tower, man i wish i could do that now
chewyboy said:
actually i was just about to post the gsm/wcdma/auto to get it to switch over. However it does not always work sadly. I remember on an old moto (forget model) that i could actually choose a network tower, man i wish i could do that now
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It perfectly works for me. If i set gsm only, it stays on edge and if i set wcdma only, it stays on H+ for me.
sorry should have been more specific again. it will go to edge but will often decide to pick a tower far away instead of a close one