Quit - GPRS O2 UK PPC2003 - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

Hi Guys,
really dumb question ... how do you disconnect from gprs once connected ?
I can not see an end button anywhere !!!
cheers

i have just worked out that if you disable phone, it turns off GPRS...
surely that is not the correct way to do it? :roll:

sorry to nag .....
does anyone know how to cut gprs once connected ??
maybe its so obvious, noone knows it !
maybe its so easy, no one can be bothered to write ?
let me know please !

install monitor
Install the spb gprs traffic monitor is the answer.

You can also simply tap the signal sign (at the top of today screen), it'll show your GPRS connection and then you can simply tap end buttom Cheers

not on ppc2003 .,... there is no end button on the signal sign :-(

Install the spb gprs traffic monitor is the answer.
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is this the solution for PPc2003 ?? surely there must be an inbuilt feature which allows you to disconnect GPRS without the need of installing other software ??
please advise

I have the same problem and i asked in deffirent places in this forum but no anwser till now.
ARZLEB said:
Also i have a problem when connecting to GPRS there is no d/c button i had to push long the red close button to d/c my GPRS session after 5 seconds exactly i will loose service signal i have to turn off/on phone to re obtain signal!
any one noticed this?
:?
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I hope someone would anwser this!

Can maybe the developers step and and show us the light?
Much appreciated :wink:

now have you got ppc2003 to connect to uk 02 grps?
what the correct settings as i can not get mine to connect at all
please pass the on

hi grim,
sorry mate, i only use Orange Gprs :?
try
Homepage: http://pda.o2.co.uk/
APN address: mobile.o2.co.uk
Username: mobileweb
Password: password
Email servers (POP): mail.o2.co.uk
Email servers (SMTP): smtp.o2.co.uk
DNS Servers: 193.113.200.200 and 193.113.200.201

nope I can not get it to connect to grps at all
i must be doing something wrong? anyone done it ok to 02 uk grps?

This appears to be a "new feature" of WM2003, always on GPRS . It does seem to timeout the connection after a little in-activity.
I'm in the same boat and cant for the life of me imagine why they have programmed this way. I can only imagine it's a bug and will be fixed.

Thought I was just stupid
We'll technically I am I was soft restting to stop it to start with
Looks like I'll have to put on Spb mon

You can also turn off the phone (tap the reception button and click "turn phone off"
and turn it back on !
also cuts GPRS

Right, Ali-Butt, it's also the way I do it ! : turn the phone" off",GPRS is also diseable, then come back to put the phone "on" ... if someone find a better way :idea: ....post-it please

Well the best solution i discovered is to use Sbp GPRS monitor, since you wont benefit from the Auto Connection / Disconnection while checking your email since the device will connect but never d/c. So all connections and d/c and done manually by you instead of using the Off / On methode use the Disconnect button in the GPRS monitor for the time being until they find a solution for this bug and yet you wont have to turn to phone off and on, consume power or someone calling in this exact min to find that your phone is switched off.
If you dont have Sbp GPRS monitor i am whilling to share it with the ppl having this problem.
:wink:

I've installed 2003 and it's all great. A few problems with the syncing but after 3.7 (strange, I had 3.7 anyway though since I've reinstalled it off the MS website it looks different to the 3.7 it used to be??) it did eventually work. Scary few mins though!!
I bought All-locations GPRS counter a few months back, but the one thing it doesn't really have is an end connection button. I also bought SPB's PocketPlus but it's saying that it's not compatible with PPC 2000????? Does anyone else have this problem? I've tried logging onto their website but it seems to be down all the time. This program used to automatically cut the gprs connection if say I'd loaded MSN and then shut it down. Very handy!! If anyone knows how to get past this or where they've put an update to work on 2003, please let me know.
In the meantime ARZLEB, if you could find it in your heart....
Cheers
V

'Always on' is a great idea, PPC2003 can disconnect automatically and re-connect when a phone call comes in so why is it an issue? The only reason I can think of is cost (if you have something polling the internet racking up MB's).
For delivering mobile applications and corporate push E-mail, this feature is essential.
These devices are not really targeted at the consumer market more at the business user so the carriers will love this feature to deliver extra services and generate GPRS data revenue.

Hi All
the best solution is the easy one , simply press on the hardware button ( the red button ) for about 2 seconds and it will disconnect the GPRS Connections !! easy ha !! :wink:
Cheers
Ahmad

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Always on GPRS????

What does it mean that the GPRS is always on? I just got my XDA II recently and their is no connection until I starft the connection. Is it supposed to be on at the moment of a soft boot?
No.
It is an internet connection based on the xda's wireless application. If your post pay you'll be charged for its useage in relation to the amount of data you are sending / recieving. Tap ur signal bit and tap connect gprs to get it going.
If you wanted it to auto connect I'm sure there 's a reg setting somewhere.
What does it mean that the GPRS is always on
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it means that it dont auto shutdown after awhile to save money since most people pay pr. MB when it comes to GPRS
if you want it to start up connected you have to check the switch in CB-SOFT tweak called search GPRG on start radio
Rudegar said:
What does it mean that the GPRS is always on
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it means that it dont auto shutdown after awhile to save money since most people pay pr. MB when it comes to GPRS
if you want it to start up connected you have to check the switch in CB-SOFT tweak called search GPRG on start radio
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I guess it's good that T-Mobile USA has unlimited GPRS. I can't imagine paying by the kilobyte.
gprs -instant way to disconnect
active the o2 active menu and when ur gprs is on u will see gprs in the top bar instead of a big o2 keep your stylus tapped down on the gprs letters and a load of connections will pop up tap the one with the tick by it and u'll instantly disconnect! howz that!
If you hold down the red 'hang up' button on the xda 11 for 5 seconds it will switch off the GPRS
hay thanks for that! i dont trust my xda not making secret transfers and running up my bill so i prefer it off! and ive removed the o2 active menu cause its crap! as previously asked they say GPRS is always on because if a call comes in gprs will susspend for the duration of the call. therefore it'll always aim to reconnect!

disable communication functions

Hello, i'm new in this forum. I have the following problem: I have to install a MDA II on a PC in our company, but for security reasons i have to disable all communication functions like blue tooth and internet before doing this.
Is this possible? How can I do this?
greetings,
xda-developer
If it's for security reasons then don't connect to the PC.
Other wise how secure will it be. If you hack the registry for bluetooth and take out the sim for phone (to inhibit internet access) then that person can put in a SDIO with WIFI or Bluetooth an yet has communication oppertunities again. Or he can put in another SIM so the phone is up again.
Most of above is also valid if you would give that person a plain PocketPC.
Regards,
Mark
if you disable phone and bluetooth then why get a xda2 at all ?
@markutah
thank you for your answer. I have to connect the MDA for synchronizing email and contacts with Outlook. Although Internet and Bluetooth have to be deactivated, the phone-function must still be available.
I thought of deinstalling or hiding the Internet Explorer in the registry (the user isn't skilled enaugh to modify the registry to turn on again). Unfortunately, I have no idea for doing this. And I have no idea how I could disable bluetooth.
@Rudegar
A user (the chief of our company) have bought a MDA II from T-Mobile (and he really don't care about our security policies). I'm not allowed to change or ignore these policies, but on the other hand I have to connect the MDA to the PC. :?
I think Internet is easy: In the connection profiles on the Proxy settings tab uncheck "this network connects to the internet".
This must be done for both work and internet profile.
But for bluetooth? I can't help you. Maybe a little bit stupid but instruct him not to turn bluetooth on would I say.
Mark
how will se be syncing with outlook ?
if by usb then no problem
about bluetooth then there are some posts in the forums if you search where people give the registry values you have to change to disable bluetooth and remove the icons (of cause by reversing those changest he could turn it back on unless you remove it by hammer and screwdriver )
about grps then you can just delete the settings in
settings connections -> connections and remove the extry's regarding grps
of cause if he want he could just type them back in
but another way is to get the phone company to block grps
on most cellphone company's it's not enabled as default and you have to ask them to turn it on, so i asume you could ask them to turn it off
the buttomline is that you can make anything 100% secure
Thank you all very much. The MDA is connected to our network now.
greetings,
xda-developer

thoughts on connecting through CRADLE > WIFI > GPRS in order.

hey guys heres abit of unusal question? (to be honest i dont think any of us ask any usual questions )
anyway what im trying to do is find out if there is a way to force a pda when its trying to connect to the internet to first check if internet is avaible through active sync (cradle or usb cable) then to check if WIFI is avaible then if thats not avaible to use gprs - but to use gprs as a last resort.
so the way it will work is an application needs to connect to the internet it first is forced to check for a connection through active sync if thats not avaible then to see if there can be a wifi conenction established if that fails then to connect to gprs and in the order.
i was hoping i could find what scrpits are used when the connections are established and then make a script to run the will force the device to do this.
Or even if there is a reg edit that I can do that will allow me to get this done? (would regedits be possable for this)
Id appericate your thoughts on this guys?
p.s il also go post this in the genaral networking section of the forum, as i would like to do this across board on any device (wm5/wm6)
well- i can solve half that...
you don't need a script or anything for the cradle side of things- just set activesync's Connections (File->Connection Settings->) and Uncheck "allow wireless connection on device when connected to desktop"
This wil force the device to use the activesync connection for the data.
Now- if only we could make it do that on wifi...
For what it's worth- I use NoData whenever I'm home and using my Wifi connection. It's a minor step to make sure I'm not burning up the data dollars- and the wifi is fast as heck.
dude thanks for the reply lol loveeeeee that cat you got one bad ass *****!
yeh i know about the active sync side of things,
I know it sounds silly and "why do you want to do that" kind of a question,
but im going to be supporting alot of devices and having something preform this task in that order would be a great help to me.
I dont think il get the answer for it, but hey this is XDA DEVEPLOERS!!!!!!
and mighter things have been done on this website by the users!!!!!
peace out

Automatic GPRS disconnect

Hi.
Got the Qtek 8500 Smartphone and Erofichs great Windows Mobile 6.1 on it.
Can anyone please tell me, how to configure the GPRS right?
The following thing happens:
If I open the Internet Explorer, surf, close it, GPRS remains ON.
Have to shut the connection manuelly down.
The worst thing, I want to automaticly download my emails every 30 min.
It works fine, but the GPRS connection remains still ON after the download endet. I dont want to shut it down every 30 min manually.
Is there any option to solve that?
Would be great if someone knows.
Thank you very much.
bloodyking said:
Hi.
Got the Qtek 8500 Smartphone and Erofichs great Windows Mobile 6.1 on it.
Can anyone please tell me, how to configure the GPRS right?
The following thing happens:
If I open the Internet Explorer, surf, close it, GPRS remains ON.
Have to shut the connection manuelly down.
The worst thing, I want to automaticly download my emails every 30 min.
It works fine, but the GPRS connection remains still ON after the download endet. I dont want to shut it down every 30 min manually.
Is there any option to solve that?
Would be great if someone knows.
Thank you very much.
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Thats normal behavior. GPRS is normally charged on traffic. So being online doesn't mean to transfer anything.
Bye
Yeah, but think about the battery
Dont want to charge every day.
bloodyking said:
Yeah, but think about the battery
Dont want to charge every day.
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Sure but doesn't matter for me
I can't understand why there is no explicit "gprs connect" or "gprs diconnect button" by defaullt on Windows Mobile (Wm6 standard, at least).
(If gprs connection is the case)
Do you know why?
There are many situations where it is very important to handle with care internet connections
Was it so difficult to have similar behavior to PC connections?
cassetto said:
I can't understand why there is no explicit "gprs connect" or "gprs diconnect button" by defaullt on Windows Mobile (Wm6 standard, at least).
(If gprs connection is the case)
Do you know why?
There are many situations where it is very important to handle with care internet connections
Was it so difficult to have similar behavior to PC connections?
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Hey cassetto,
While I don't think there is an option to explicit connect (besides just going onto the internet which starts the connection), there IS an option to disconnect.
It was on my Windows Mobile 5 phone, so I have no doubt it's in WinMo6.
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
briguy992 said:
Hey cassetto,
While I don't think there is an option to explicit connect (besides just going onto the internet which starts the connection), there IS an option to disconnect.
It was on my Windows Mobile 5 phone, so I have no doubt it's in WinMo6.
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
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(Excuse me for my English)
Thank you!
Anyway...
I don't consider it an EXPLICIT gprs disconnection button and I can't understand Operating System logic.
Since I cannot put that button ON there (button is normally disabled while, for example, active sync or bluetooth buttons are not), I did not try to put it OFF there.
Moreover, that button has no name. Only when enabled and ON, it is named "data connection". In settings/connections, more than ten connections are listed. SMS Service, USB to PC, VPN and so on. Somebody could consider many of them "data connection".
Somebody could wonder which connection or how many connections are currently responsible of that button enabling.
Which one would I disable pressing "data connection" button in comm Manager? All? Only one? SMS Service?
If more than one data connection can activate that button (in the same time), I can't know what that button does. Maybe It disable button but I don't know how many data connections are disconnected (only gprs?)
If at one given moment the only thing that a button can do is "gprs disconnection" and moreover it is enabled by gprs connection (and only by gprs connection), it should be named "gprs disconnection"
If more than one data connection can activate it, but not more than one at the same time, it should be named according to the data connection name.
Too complicated?
briguy992 said:
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
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Thats the point! You have to do it every singel time manually or it stays connected. As mentioned, I receive my mails every 30 min. So ill stick with the "allways on" situation or disconnect it manually every 30 min (which makes no sense at all)
why doesn't it disconnect if idle?
It seems such an obvious thing to do - if there's been no GPRS traffic for X minutes, drop the connection.
Has anyone got a way of implementing this?
landwomble said:
It seems such an obvious thing to do - if there's been no GPRS traffic for X minutes, drop the connection.
Has anyone got a way of implementing this?
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Code:
REGEDIT4
;Enable auto disconnect GPRS if not use 60 seconds
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"="GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
;Disable auto connect GPRS
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction]
"EnableCPHSONS"=dword:00000001
"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:00000001
Unless your plan charges you for GPRS connect time I can't imagine why you'd need to turn it off, I've never found having it on to be a problem or a major drain on the battery. I've had the 8500 about 18 months, use tmobile and have their data plan. Rather than turn it off why not just configure your applications for manual download? Just curious, what do you see that most of us don't?
Enable the GPRS disconnect button and/or timer
http://modernnomads.info/storage/users/4/4/cabs/Show GPRS Disconnect button and timer.cab
natong said:
Code:
REGEDIT4
;Enable auto disconnect GPRS if not use 60 seconds
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"="GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
;Disable auto connect GPRS
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction]
"EnableCPHSONS"=dword:00000001
"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:00000001
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How can I change from 60 secs to 5 minutes?
Can you please explain the conversion method, from 60 seconds to "CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
Thanks
manuel.
"3C" is Hex for 60. You might try to substitute it with "05".
Does not work
Above registry hacks do not work on WM 6.1 (Xperia). When the device is in suspend mode, and it checks e-mail every 30 minutes, it doesn't disconnect.

[Q] insurance phones

Sorry if I oppened a topic what is alleeady active but I was searching and I couldn't find a topic what is discussing things about this subject. My question is how can I cheak that the phone what they send me is fully working and for example this one I have problem with internet how can I repair the problems?
pendramoon said:
Sorry if I oppened a topic what is alleeady active but I was searching and I couldn't find a topic what is discussing things about this subject. My question is how can I cheak that the phone what they send me is fully working and for example this one I have problem with internet how can I repair the problems?
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Give full information dont expect use to guess .
jje
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I recived the phone saying that if I have problem with the setting text AXTIVE TO 2020 o2 service. Ok I have done it and I got wap on it but after using it for 15 min wap gone. I had to turn off and in the phone. At home I had a wifi connection after 20 min it has gone. Then I got angry I have done a factory reset for s2 (I got it for the phone from 02) and after I didn't have wap so I had to text ACTIVE to 02 and had wap but having same problem. So I have questioned my self does this phone has other problem is well? How can I check it? How can I resolve this problem.
Is english your native language? I am still not fully understanding what the problem is...
Are you having issues connecting to your wifi at home, school, or work?
Are you having cellular data issues?
Im also not familiar with what texting "Active" to 02 is about. Im sorry but you really need to calm down a little, understand that we can and will try to help but you really have to give us a more detailed look into what is going on.
Remember, we are not there, we do not see what you see, hear what you hear, or know what you know. you have to tell us.
English clearly isn't his native language.
But, what he is trying to say is that he seems to having connectivity issues with both wifi at home and when connected to mobile data. When he texts "ACTIVE" to the 02 help line number, it restores his connection but only for around 15 minutes before it drops off again.
As for the problem, I have no idea. I would return the phone to 02 and ask for a replacement.
Yes I'm Hungarian. what I tried to say is that I am able to use the wap net work and wifi but it keep droping me out from the service. So after 15/20min restart he phone and again I have internet. I don't know why? AlsoI don't know if there is any other problem on the phone can I get a program what is run a test on it and repair the problems?
Not sure what your problem is, but if you have the mobile data connection active (the signal bars at the top of the screen show a G or 3G or H or E) and then switch on WiFi. If WiFi makes a connection to a wireless device, then the phone temporally disables the mobile data connection. If you disconnect your WiFi connection, then the mobile data connection becomes active again.
Even if the WiFi has connection to a wireless device, the device may not let them have access to the internet. So even though you have mobile data connection on, you won't be able to connect to the internet.
Switch off the WiFi and just test the mobile data connection. If that is fine, then you need to look at what the WiFi is connecting to. If it is not fine, then you need to find the mobile data connection settings for you phone network.

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