Hi.
Got the Qtek 8500 Smartphone and Erofichs great Windows Mobile 6.1 on it.
Can anyone please tell me, how to configure the GPRS right?
The following thing happens:
If I open the Internet Explorer, surf, close it, GPRS remains ON.
Have to shut the connection manuelly down.
The worst thing, I want to automaticly download my emails every 30 min.
It works fine, but the GPRS connection remains still ON after the download endet. I dont want to shut it down every 30 min manually.
Is there any option to solve that?
Would be great if someone knows.
Thank you very much.
bloodyking said:
Hi.
Got the Qtek 8500 Smartphone and Erofichs great Windows Mobile 6.1 on it.
Can anyone please tell me, how to configure the GPRS right?
The following thing happens:
If I open the Internet Explorer, surf, close it, GPRS remains ON.
Have to shut the connection manuelly down.
The worst thing, I want to automaticly download my emails every 30 min.
It works fine, but the GPRS connection remains still ON after the download endet. I dont want to shut it down every 30 min manually.
Is there any option to solve that?
Would be great if someone knows.
Thank you very much.
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Thats normal behavior. GPRS is normally charged on traffic. So being online doesn't mean to transfer anything.
Bye
Yeah, but think about the battery
Dont want to charge every day.
bloodyking said:
Yeah, but think about the battery
Dont want to charge every day.
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Sure but doesn't matter for me
I can't understand why there is no explicit "gprs connect" or "gprs diconnect button" by defaullt on Windows Mobile (Wm6 standard, at least).
(If gprs connection is the case)
Do you know why?
There are many situations where it is very important to handle with care internet connections
Was it so difficult to have similar behavior to PC connections?
cassetto said:
I can't understand why there is no explicit "gprs connect" or "gprs diconnect button" by defaullt on Windows Mobile (Wm6 standard, at least).
(If gprs connection is the case)
Do you know why?
There are many situations where it is very important to handle with care internet connections
Was it so difficult to have similar behavior to PC connections?
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Hey cassetto,
While I don't think there is an option to explicit connect (besides just going onto the internet which starts the connection), there IS an option to disconnect.
It was on my Windows Mobile 5 phone, so I have no doubt it's in WinMo6.
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
briguy992 said:
Hey cassetto,
While I don't think there is an option to explicit connect (besides just going onto the internet which starts the connection), there IS an option to disconnect.
It was on my Windows Mobile 5 phone, so I have no doubt it's in WinMo6.
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
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(Excuse me for my English)
Thank you!
Anyway...
I don't consider it an EXPLICIT gprs disconnection button and I can't understand Operating System logic.
Since I cannot put that button ON there (button is normally disabled while, for example, active sync or bluetooth buttons are not), I did not try to put it OFF there.
Moreover, that button has no name. Only when enabled and ON, it is named "data connection". In settings/connections, more than ten connections are listed. SMS Service, USB to PC, VPN and so on. Somebody could consider many of them "data connection".
Somebody could wonder which connection or how many connections are currently responsible of that button enabling.
Which one would I disable pressing "data connection" button in comm Manager? All? Only one? SMS Service?
If more than one data connection can activate that button (in the same time), I can't know what that button does. Maybe It disable button but I don't know how many data connections are disconnected (only gprs?)
If at one given moment the only thing that a button can do is "gprs disconnection" and moreover it is enabled by gprs connection (and only by gprs connection), it should be named "gprs disconnection"
If more than one data connection can activate it, but not more than one at the same time, it should be named according to the data connection name.
Too complicated?
briguy992 said:
You just have to go into your Comm Manager and disconnect it from there manually. I did it all the time with WinMo5 and I'm still doing it all the time with WinMo6.1
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Thats the point! You have to do it every singel time manually or it stays connected. As mentioned, I receive my mails every 30 min. So ill stick with the "allways on" situation or disconnect it manually every 30 min (which makes no sense at all)
why doesn't it disconnect if idle?
It seems such an obvious thing to do - if there's been no GPRS traffic for X minutes, drop the connection.
Has anyone got a way of implementing this?
landwomble said:
It seems such an obvious thing to do - if there's been no GPRS traffic for X minutes, drop the connection.
Has anyone got a way of implementing this?
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Code:
REGEDIT4
;Enable auto disconnect GPRS if not use 60 seconds
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"="GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
;Disable auto connect GPRS
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction]
"EnableCPHSONS"=dword:00000001
"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:00000001
Unless your plan charges you for GPRS connect time I can't imagine why you'd need to turn it off, I've never found having it on to be a problem or a major drain on the battery. I've had the 8500 about 18 months, use tmobile and have their data plan. Rather than turn it off why not just configure your applications for manual download? Just curious, what do you see that most of us don't?
Enable the GPRS disconnect button and/or timer
http://modernnomads.info/storage/users/4/4/cabs/Show GPRS Disconnect button and timer.cab
natong said:
Code:
REGEDIT4
;Enable auto disconnect GPRS if not use 60 seconds
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"="GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
;Disable auto connect GPRS
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction]
"EnableCPHSONS"=dword:00000001
"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:00000001
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How can I change from 60 secs to 5 minutes?
Can you please explain the conversion method, from 60 seconds to "CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
Thanks
manuel.
"3C" is Hex for 60. You might try to substitute it with "05".
Does not work
Above registry hacks do not work on WM 6.1 (Xperia). When the device is in suspend mode, and it checks e-mail every 30 minutes, it doesn't disconnect.
Related
Hi Guys,
really dumb question ... how do you disconnect from gprs once connected ?
I can not see an end button anywhere !!!
cheers
i have just worked out that if you disable phone, it turns off GPRS...
surely that is not the correct way to do it? :roll:
sorry to nag .....
does anyone know how to cut gprs once connected ??
maybe its so obvious, noone knows it !
maybe its so easy, no one can be bothered to write ?
let me know please !
install monitor
Install the spb gprs traffic monitor is the answer.
You can also simply tap the signal sign (at the top of today screen), it'll show your GPRS connection and then you can simply tap end buttom Cheers
not on ppc2003 .,... there is no end button on the signal sign :-(
Install the spb gprs traffic monitor is the answer.
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is this the solution for PPc2003 ?? surely there must be an inbuilt feature which allows you to disconnect GPRS without the need of installing other software ??
please advise
I have the same problem and i asked in deffirent places in this forum but no anwser till now.
ARZLEB said:
Also i have a problem when connecting to GPRS there is no d/c button i had to push long the red close button to d/c my GPRS session after 5 seconds exactly i will loose service signal i have to turn off/on phone to re obtain signal!
any one noticed this?
:?
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I hope someone would anwser this!
Can maybe the developers step and and show us the light?
Much appreciated :wink:
now have you got ppc2003 to connect to uk 02 grps?
what the correct settings as i can not get mine to connect at all
please pass the on
hi grim,
sorry mate, i only use Orange Gprs :?
try
Homepage: http://pda.o2.co.uk/
APN address: mobile.o2.co.uk
Username: mobileweb
Password: password
Email servers (POP): mail.o2.co.uk
Email servers (SMTP): smtp.o2.co.uk
DNS Servers: 193.113.200.200 and 193.113.200.201
nope I can not get it to connect to grps at all
i must be doing something wrong? anyone done it ok to 02 uk grps?
This appears to be a "new feature" of WM2003, always on GPRS . It does seem to timeout the connection after a little in-activity.
I'm in the same boat and cant for the life of me imagine why they have programmed this way. I can only imagine it's a bug and will be fixed.
Thought I was just stupid
We'll technically I am I was soft restting to stop it to start with
Looks like I'll have to put on Spb mon
You can also turn off the phone (tap the reception button and click "turn phone off"
and turn it back on !
also cuts GPRS
Right, Ali-Butt, it's also the way I do it ! : turn the phone" off",GPRS is also diseable, then come back to put the phone "on" ... if someone find a better way :idea: ....post-it please
Well the best solution i discovered is to use Sbp GPRS monitor, since you wont benefit from the Auto Connection / Disconnection while checking your email since the device will connect but never d/c. So all connections and d/c and done manually by you instead of using the Off / On methode use the Disconnect button in the GPRS monitor for the time being until they find a solution for this bug and yet you wont have to turn to phone off and on, consume power or someone calling in this exact min to find that your phone is switched off.
If you dont have Sbp GPRS monitor i am whilling to share it with the ppl having this problem.
:wink:
I've installed 2003 and it's all great. A few problems with the syncing but after 3.7 (strange, I had 3.7 anyway though since I've reinstalled it off the MS website it looks different to the 3.7 it used to be??) it did eventually work. Scary few mins though!!
I bought All-locations GPRS counter a few months back, but the one thing it doesn't really have is an end connection button. I also bought SPB's PocketPlus but it's saying that it's not compatible with PPC 2000????? Does anyone else have this problem? I've tried logging onto their website but it seems to be down all the time. This program used to automatically cut the gprs connection if say I'd loaded MSN and then shut it down. Very handy!! If anyone knows how to get past this or where they've put an update to work on 2003, please let me know.
In the meantime ARZLEB, if you could find it in your heart....
Cheers
V
'Always on' is a great idea, PPC2003 can disconnect automatically and re-connect when a phone call comes in so why is it an issue? The only reason I can think of is cost (if you have something polling the internet racking up MB's).
For delivering mobile applications and corporate push E-mail, this feature is essential.
These devices are not really targeted at the consumer market more at the business user so the carriers will love this feature to deliver extra services and generate GPRS data revenue.
Hi All
the best solution is the easy one , simply press on the hardware button ( the red button ) for about 2 seconds and it will disconnect the GPRS Connections !! easy ha !! :wink:
Cheers
Ahmad
Ma Ameo X7500 Is Automatically Connecting 2 Internet Every Time And Am Loosing A Lots Of Moneyn
How Can I Jus Disable The Option Like Connect To Internet When I Want Or Something Like That
Go to www.modaco.com and download nodata.cab
You may need to ask yourself 'why is it connecting' and why is it costing so much?
Generally, if you have a POP3 email account, set up, it will connect at the interval you have set in Activesync or Messaging.
The X7500 also has QuickGPS which will try and update itself at intervals- the actual data use it tiny though, so should nt cost much. To stop it, open QuickGPS and alter the settings.
Do you have any other programs that connect to the internet? Do you want them to only connect via WiFi- if so, the link by Confucious is excellent.
If you want to use GPRS data sometimes, you need to modify the connection settings and remove the Password and untick 'Save Password'; this will mean that any connection attempt will always prompt for a password, which you can then abort if you want to (of course if the connection attempts are frequent and you can't trace the source, this could become a pain in itself!)
Confucious said:
Go to www.modaco.com and download nodata.cab
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THANKS FOR UR ATTENTION 2 MA THREAD
THAT HELPED
NOW ITS NOT CONNECTING LIKE THAT
NeilM said:
You may need to ask yourself 'why is it connecting' and why is it costing so much?
Generally, if you have a POP3 email account, set up, it will connect at the interval you have set in Activesync or Messaging.
The X7500 also has QuickGPS which will try and update itself at intervals- the actual data use it tiny though, so should nt cost much. To stop it, open QuickGPS and alter the settings.
Do you have any other programs that connect to the internet? Do you want them to only connect via WiFi- if so, the link by Confucious is excellent.
If you want to use GPRS data sometimes, you need to modify the connection settings and remove the Password and untick 'Save Password'; this will mean that any connection attempt will always prompt for a password, which you can then abort if you want to (of course if the connection attempts are frequent and you can't trace the source, this could become a pain in itself!)
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THIS IS ALSO A PRETTY GUD INFO
LET ME LOOK THROUGH
THNX MAN
OK. This is really "Another TouchPro Tethering Thread Squared" but it's driving me crazy.
I have a new TouchPro on Verizon and am trying to use it (isn't everyone) through a USB cord to tether my netbook. I have the BroadBand Connect add-on from Verizon and am using VZ Access Manager. After a rough install (mainly because I didn't read the manual) VZAM is installed properly as is the modem connection in XP.
Problem comes when I try to start "Modem Link" in the Touch Pro. 99% of the time (or even more than that) when I hit "Start" I get the WModem Error Message "End Data Call First". I've tried everything I can think of in Comm Manager; e.g. Airplane Mode on, Phone off, Data Connection & Direct Push Off. I've checked to see if ActiveSync is running (I'm hooked via DirectPush to an Exchange Server). Regardless there seems to be SOMETHING in the TouchPro trying to keep a data connection alive (when I go back to CommManager after turning off, say, Data Connection, it's back on). If I manage, through some procedure I can't reproduce, to get the ModemLink started, the tethering seems to work but can be flaky with 1010 Errors on the TouchPro or device.exe crashes. The final insult comes when I disconnect: the TouchPro shows an "antenna" icon above the signal strength bars (Modem connection?) and seems to block the phones normal EV data connection. I need to do a soft reset to get back online.
Has ANYONE come up with a reasonable routine that will let me tether without doing exotic incantations? I don't want to have to go back to my old BB8830 but tethering with that was a dream!!
Yes, I WILL call Verizon tech support but, as we all know, that is better left as a last (or next to last, I can always try to return the TP) resort.
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
go into the communications menu, disable the data connection. leave the phone connection on.
This will end your current data call on the network.
This is because you're currentl;y loged in with a [email protected] username and vzam needs a [email protected]. It's not a blackberry which automatically switches, but that was blackberry's doing.
Thanks for the reply but I actually had done that.
I would kill the data connection but then it would start again almost immediately.
What it turned out to be was Windows Live/ActiveSync re-establishing the connection because I had them on a schedule of "As Items Arrive". What I need to do now is go into AS and set Schedule to Manual, then go into WL and do the same and even go into my IMAP email account and set the schedule to Manual (it WAS every 15 minutes). THEN I can kill the data connection and it stays killed and ModemLink works. Afterwards I reverse the process. PITA since this was never necessary with my BB, but I realize a WinMo device is different.
Again, thanks for taking the time to post a response.
I have a HTC Fuze. The last few ROMS that i have been using (Energy, RRE, Tael), all the Apps always use the 3G internet to do their work even if a much faster Wifi is connected. Is there any way to make all apps(including things like email) globally prefer the Wifi when available? Also I dont want to have to keep changing settings to do this, It simply needs to be "If Wifi available use it, else use 3G"
Thanks in advance.
What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network. If anyone knows a better way, please let us know
no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
redskilldough said:
What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network...
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Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
k.electron said:
no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
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As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
rexian said:
Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
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no i leave wifi off normally to conserve battery.
Solarenemy68 said:
As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
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that is extremely failurous. not preferring the fastest internet connection is major fail. did not know that.
My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
|Jason8| said:
My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
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what the heck? how? u must help me find out..
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
wakady said:
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
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firiel said:
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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apparently its some sort of combo of this. i am using 6.5. any apps that have been using 3g continue with it. and i have to go to the comm screen and turn off data to force new apps to consume wifi. which isnt too bad, certainly not as bad as going to the network options. i would wish they made this a bit more seamless like with the desktop technology, i can switch from wired to wireless lan without even dropping a skype call.
firiel said:
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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now i have discovered a new problem. even if i open the app after i have wifi turned on and data turned off, some apps just dont want to use the wifii.
Bing maps and google maps for example just tell me there is no internet.
this is really pissing me off, whats the point of having wifi on a phone if the apps wont use it. i dont really care about the google location service if the data is through the internet, but atleast turn on.
lame.
hey mates,
i havent got always a data plan for my phone.
so normally, the mobile internet is disabled.
i do that with the following setting:
WinMo Settings - Connections - Connections - More - Choose Networks
-> programs with automatical internet access use "firmennetzwerk"
as you know, this is wireless lan.
when i change it to "E-Plus Internet", my device of course makes a data connection.
i dont use the data connection very often, so its mostly disabled. but when i wanna use it, i've always to do what is mentioned above
i guess there must be a registry value, which changes it from "Firmennetzwerk" to "E-Plus Internet" and vise versa.
can anyone say me, which one it is?
so i could make a little programm, to enable/disable it.
i tried many programms with data on/off options, but non of them really disabled it.
any other advice?
thanks!
DN41
DN41 said:
WinMo Settings - Connections - Connections - More - Choose Networks
-> programs with automatical internet access use "firmennetzwerk"
as you know, this is wireless lan.
when i change it to "E-Plus Internet", my device of course makes a data connection.
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you dont need to swap them, if you can manage to get the mobile connection disabled, it will automatically switch to using wifi so long as wifi is connected.
I use THIS. I dont use teh auto data disconnect feature of it, but the on off toggles work flawlessly for me. Flick my 'mobile web' (my default data connection) to off, and it stays off no matter what tries to connect. When i am connected to wifi, everything routes through that unless i turn the data switch back on.
you could try finding if and where the registry is changed using Kheb,
also (and pardon me, if I misunderstood your problem) why switch networks in such a tedious way?
it seems much easier to either
- enable networks (Wi-Fi or cellular) directly in the settings / comm manager
- or use quicklink switches like HD2connections?
so there's no need to dive into settings then...
thanks.
i'll give it a try.
for example with "nodata (modaco)", i could disable the data connection by pressing the button..but surprisingly, it only disconnected it....when the next program wanted a connection, it was just there again...do you understand?
DN41
i think you missunderstood it
i wanna enable it sometimes to update my facebookstatus (0.facebook.com is free for e-plus user), of course i only do it when i sit in a bus or something like that...at home i use wifi instead..
things like hd2connections didnt work for me..
maybe kheb could be the solution.
DN41
DN41 said:
thanks.
i'll give it a try.
for example with "nodata (modaco)", i could disable the data connection by pressing the button..but surprisingly, it only disconnected it....when the next program wanted a connection, it was just there again...do you understand?
DN41
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I understand, and yea, many of the data apps dont always work as expected, but the toggle in that app seems to work for me. (The timed disconnection is a little ropey, as with all apps, but the toggle works)
thanks.
i'll test it. if it works for me like for you, its fine
if not, i'll make my one "program".
DN41
it seems that the toggle simply switches THIS key 1 or 0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{long hex number, yours wont match mine)}\Connections\NAME OF YOUR DATA ACCOUNT\Enabled
thanks
you're always a help, samsamuel
DN41
heh, i dont like to not know stuff, cant move on till ive looked it up and tested it. Thank you ceregistryeditor compare!
DN41 said:
things like hd2connections didnt work for me..
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why not? what I like in hd2connections is ease of usage - two quicklinks on homescreen ("Wi-Fi on/off" and "Data on/off"), when in need of internet switch on the preferred one, switch it off afterwards -> quick/selective and does not eat battery
because it does not block the data connection.
if a program has to download something, the data connection is made.
thats what i dont want.
DN41
Bsb tweaks? I used to use that to block the data connection then enable it when I wanted a quick surf