Should I switch to Cingular 8525? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

My TyTN is bricked thanks to my trying to update it to the Cingular aku3.3 ROM -- with so many others in the same situation I've been unable to obtain any specific help (I've gone thru the Wiki and numerous threads and tried every suggested fix I could find, all to no avail) and I desparately need to get my pda phone working. After learning that HTC has no servicing location in the USA and their branded service center (I contacted Cingular HTC service center) won't work on my TyTN, I've concluded it's not a good idea to buy another TyTN. So I'm ready to go to the local Cingular dealer and signup for a 2-yr contract so I can purchase an 8525 for about half what I'd pay for the TyTN (Cingular is my provider so I only need the equipment).
BUT..... if there is ANY hope I could recover my dead TyTN I'd much prefer to do that. It's just that time is short and, as I said, I really rely on my pda phone.
Thanks for any help offered.

What's wrong with it specifically? I think there might be something wrong with mine as well...

In my case I got an error when it was 91% complete on the ROM upgrade -- since then I can't boot into WinMobile -- it boots to the Cingular/ATT logo then goes blank, so I have no access to it at all except via the bootloader. As I said, the Wiki has loads of useful info and how-to suggestions but none of them seem to work for my "brick". And I really need to make a decision.

Crap, that sucks.
I upgraded to the "HTC Test" ROM, and now I cannot make outgoing calls. About 40 - 50% of my calls are met with "Call cannot be completed as dialed," and I am frustrated as hell. So then I downgraded and got the same results.
So then I went to the new 2.06 Cingular (AT&T) ROM with no luck, and then downgraded (again) to the earlier Cingular ROM (I don't recall which version).
I ahve a fully functioning device, but I cannot make calls! (Well, some go through.) I should mention my data is working like a champ. My next step is to try a new Cingular SIM - my T-Mobile SIM also works just fine, both data and voice.
Hmm...

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Unlocked M3100 problems with O2 sim

Hi All,
Bought a SPV M3100 over a week ago (15th Aug) and got it unlocked using http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ straight away
Installed my O2 work sim in and had no problems recieving and making calls for over a week. However today I noticed the phone was just searching for an operator. Can not make or receive calls.
The original Orange sim works fine in the M3100 and so does my other O2 pay as you go sim. My work sim works fine in my other 2 nokia phones!
I have reset the phone both soft and hard
What is going on? Anyone have any ideas as i am very puzzled!
Thanks
BK
Just tried my work colleagues O2 sim which is just one number different to my phone number and the stupid thing is doing the same thing where it's just searching for a network!!!!!
Ahhhh. Someone please help.
My Pay as you go O2 sim works fine and for does the original O2 sim.
Thanks
BK
Panic over!!
Went into the phone network settings and changed the Network Selection to manual from Automatic. Then used the select button to choose "O2 - UK". The sim is now being recongnised and I have full reception again. Phew!
No idea why i suddenly have to do this out of the blue when it was working perfectly before.
BK
Oh Man! Just when I thought i had this thing sorted. It's failing to register on the O2 network again.
Anyone else having similar problems with unlocked SPV M3100's?
Bad_Karma said:
Oh Man! Just when I thought i had this thing sorted. It's failing to register on the O2 network again.
Anyone else having similar problems with unlocked SPV M3100's?
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Please don't say this. My SPV M3100 will be here thursday.
I have my other pay as you go O2 sim in the m3100 at the moment and it working fine.
Therefore I am guessing the problem lies with my work contract O2 sim. I don't think it's tied in any way to the imei as I have tried the sim with multiple non work phones and it's fine.
I have read somewhere there may be issues with old 2g sim's i.e. 5 years old+ working in new 3g phones. I think mine was issued to me about 2000/2001.
Now all I need to do is workout how I am going to get the company I work for to issue me a new sim!
BK
Bad_Karma said:
Oh Man! Just when I thought i had this thing sorted. It's failing to register on the O2 network again.
Anyone else having similar problems with unlocked SPV M3100's?
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I had similar problem as you are. My M3100 wouldn't hold onto O2 signal. Not sure if its the phone, the Orange Rom, the O2 sim card, imei check unlocking or what. Solved it by flashing the Dopod rom works near flawlessly now. Can't guarantee it'll work for you but it did for me.
I give up.
Managed to get me a brand new O2 sim from work and............ it still does not work im my unlocked Orange SPV M3100!!!!
Whats so bizarre is my Pay As You Go O2 sim works fine and my original work sim worked initially for a few days.
Going to test my work sim in another 3G phone.
If its the sim then I will try and find out what needs switching on/off. Failing this then it's either going to be ebay or see if I have enough courage to try a rom upgrade.
ROM upgrading is actually very easy. All you need to do is download the desired rom. Connect the phone over wired usb activesync & then just start the rom program & its just a matter of following the on screen instructions from there.
What you will find that once the upgrading starts it'll get to 6% or something like that & then it will stop & display error messages. Don't worry just exit the program with disconnecting the phone (infact don't touch the phone at all) & start again. You'll go through all the same screens as before but this time the update should load till it finished. Takes a good 15mins so be patient.
I'm running the Dopod rom on my M3100 & everything is pretty stable.
Thanks for the advise Zen123
I have since my last post upgraded the Radio rom to 1.16.00.00
Touching wood with my fingers crossed and my lucky rabbits foot in my pocket I have a network coverage on my work O2 sim for 2 whole days!!!!!
The device has been reset several times and I use the Tube daily so signal is lost and gained frequently.
I am however still not yet completely convinced the issue is fixed as I believe I had network coverage for approx 4-5 days with O2 after I originally unlocked it.
I'll update this thread after a week or 2.
BK
Hi,
just to prove you are not alone:
A guy i know using a Tango sim in Luxemburg bought an unlocked Vario II which worked fine with original T-Mobile sims as well as with his old prepaid Tango sim. But his new sim from Tango makes trouble as he can only receive calls but not call others.
Tango support assumed that new Roaming functions on the new sim caused conflicts with the Radio ROM which is 1.05.
He will make an update on 1.16 within the next days, I will report.

GPRS does not work for my Atom Exec!!!

Hey all,
I am hoping somebody will have a solution to my problem as it is driving me mad.
I have an 02 XDA Atom Exec & am on the T-Mobile network in the UK & I am unable to connect to the T-Mobile GPRS service.
I have put in the correct setting but for some reason it keeps trying to connect then eventually come up with a notice that Cannot Connect & that the answering modem has disconnected.
I do not understand what this means & by the sound of it neither do T-Mobile customer services, but understandly maybe as they don't do it!!!
I hope one of you guys can help me with this problem.
Thanks Guys.
can you check with another sim card?
maby different operator?
If you will have same problem, the source in GSM module, otherwise, go to your operator.
hi, i have the same problem with my atom on UK Vodafone, it says it connects fine, but then cant locate any web pages or anything like that!
Hi,
I have tried with my vodafone PAYG sim card with the vodafone settings & it works fine, but still having problems with my T-Mobile sim.
I think I may have to phone customer service again & try get a solution from them otherwise I will cancel the web & walk & just keep the free minutes.
Spuddle, I have tried with the Vodafone sim & mine worked fine, Are you sure you have the Vodafone settings on there???
im sure i have, because it will connect, and says connected, just when i go to ie it keeps saying any web / wap page cant be located.
where did you get the settings from??
thanks!
I got the settings from http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html.
Let me know if they are the same settings that you used, If it saying that it was unable to load up the page do a reset ot try closing down running programs & try again.
its still not working!
I have just got a T-Mobile account with the Web'n'Walk and I am experiencing the exact same problems.
I have used my Atom Exec on Vodafone AU, Vodafone UK, O2 UK and they all connect straight away. (and when the SIM is inserted there is a G in the top next to the telephone signal strength)
But as soon as i put in the T-Mobile SIM in the G is no longer there and it is an X and when i try to connect i get the error:
Dialed:general.t-mobile.uk
The answering modem has disconnected
Version:
CMOS:55.44
ExtROM:EX0033
Hardware:C1
Radio:R060711N_MN2ARC_RS00013
ROM:20060721B1WWE
faulkss, That is exactly the same message that I get.
Have you tried phoning up T-Mobile at all???
Yeah like 5 times!
And I have even gone in to a T-Mobile store...
They have nothing at all!!! They all say that the settings are all correct, my SIM is GPRS enabled, and that there is nothing that they can do.
I have put my SIM in an MDA Vario and it works like a dream???
So last night I was going through the registry on the MDA and looking for keys that I did not have and then manually entering them... but still no luck.
I am guessing that there is some setting somewhere that the SIM is looking for and does not find, hence the X instead of the G.
To be honest I think that I am in a little over my head.
But I have just signed up to this so that I could use Push email, and it is like 5 days into a 12 month contract, so I really want to get it to work!
Steve
Well I have called them again, and they have no idea and really don’t want to find out why as they have never heard of the ATOM Exec (poor them as they are missing out).
So I have just cancelled my contract with them, and since I have only had it for 5 days there is no penalty.
I am going to sign up for an O2 plan and add the blackberry (£10) option on it.
It might be an extra 10er a month on the T-Mobile plan, but at least I will have everything that I want.
Steve
Yeah, good on you!!!
If T-Mobile can't be arsed to help you they do not deserve the money you would have given the.
The only thing is that I am on 18 month contract with about 9 months remaining, so the choice for me will be to either sell the Atom Exec ( even though I love it!!!) or go back to my trusty MDA Vario.
Decisions, Desisions!!!!
I have until monday when i send it back to get it working... and i have been looking on the msdn site at programming different settings in the regitry...
if i get it before monday i will let you know
Steve
Thanks dude.
did not get it to work which is a shame!
I am sure that it is to do with the settings within the registry, but no matter what i tried nothing seemed to work.
Sorry
Steve
Thats cool dude, at least you gave it a go.
Did you cancel your T-Mobile contract???
yeah ... in time no to have to pay anything
I had problems twice connecting via GPRS. The latest one on the imate JAMin (HTC Prophet). I had to delete the GPRS modem and created new one with different name but same settings and it worked. Good Luck.
it works fine on an imate jam ... it does not work on the atom exec's

Replacement Cingular/AT&T 8525 issues

I've had a Cingular 8525 since Jan. of last year, and it worked flawlessly. I was interested in updating it to Windows Mobile 6, and posted a few questions on the forum under the Windows Mobile 6 forum for my device. However, as of recently the phone started to just go totally white when I would try to use the phone after pulling it out of my pocket, etc. I knew this was a common issue with the 8525, and a hard reset usually solved the problem with no issue. However, it kept happening more often. Sometimes even a hard reset wouldn't help. So, I called up the warranty division at AT&T and they agreed to send me a new AT&T 8525. I got it in the mail today. Great. New phone. I'm happy about that for sure, because the white screen issues won't happen anymore.
Here comes the problem. I'm sure most people (if not everyone) know that if you don't have any data plan on your account with Cingular/AT&T, the original Cingular 8525 would allow you data access if you set it up correctly. My old 8525 connects to the Internet, and I don't have a data package, and never have. I never get billed for it, and I've been doing it forever. My replacement 8525 when setup with these settings that I've been using fails to work. PIE will connect to the network, but it locks up at "Locating..." and then eventually spits and error that the remote computer disconnected.
As much as I hate to do it, I want to downgrade the AT&T firmware on the replacement phone they sent me back down to the Cingular firmware. Currently, the firmware I have on the old 8525 is ROM version 1.34.502.1, Radio version: 1.16.00.00. Is there any way to do it to my replacement 8525 with ease? I searched around and didn't find much step-by-step information, so if someone could kindly post exact instructions for me, I would greatly appreciate. I would be more than willing to search around some more and learn as much as possible about the process, but I really want to get this completely working with no errors before the weekend is over. Thanks.
Check THIS GUIDE.
Thanks for that info. Sure enough, after following the instructions you provided, I'm successfully down to my firmware version I had on my old 8525, and my data settings work perfectly. However, I have a different radio version, which is now 1.40.30.00. On the old 8525 I had the 1.16.00.00. Is this an issue?
I wonder if you were just encountering the bjilt in proxy in the newer roms? In the newer roms, to connect via isp.cingular, you need to disable the proxy. programs/proxy manager/disable proxy.
How are you getting free data?
How did you get att to warranty a ten month old device?
mthomas said:
I wonder if you were just encountering the bjilt in proxy in the newer roms? In the newer roms, to connect via isp.cingular, you need to disable the proxy. programs/proxy manager/disable proxy.
How are you getting free data?
How did you get att to warranty a ten month old device?
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I'm getting the free data in conjunction with a feature I have on my account that is a legacy feature. So, even if I told you, you most likely wouldn't be able to get it added to your account, to my knowledge.
Thanks for the information, but I did try all variations of the different proxies and the APN names, but nothing worked. A friend of mine that works for AT&T just said to flash down, so that's what I did. All working now
Well, according to AT&T, my device was under warranty for 1 year, so they shipped me a replacement unit. I'm sending the old one back just as soon as I restore my stuff from my old device onto the new one.

Sim unlocking kicking my butt

Hey all, this is the first post. It's 1am here, and i've been trying to unlock this thing with all the software i've found here, and i can't do it.
i got an 8525 from cingular, trying to use it in t-mobile networks, no luck.
everytime i go to try out the new sim card, it says its lock. now, it says 10 times tried, wait for timeout.
i don't know what the hell to do now.
please give me some walk throughs, cuz im really stumped. thanks!
-Bractastic
update
i've been pushin hard to get this thing functional, and i finally got it. it was tricky to get the system to push through the software with vista, but i followed a few directions (listed below) to help along the process.
if anyone has windows vista, i would highly advise you to try this method. it worked for me first time up.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=27
using this software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
(be sure to click on the lower link in the first post)
first get your system compatible with the gear (let windows detect all the stuff), install windows mobile device center.
reboot
next install the new drivers for the htc usb sync.
reboot
finally, extract and run the unlocking software.
watch your phone for the program. it takes a few minutes, so just be patient. i think if i would've found the vista methods prior to starting this, i would have been finished by now. oh well. good luck!!
edit: nm you got it
Same problem...
I had the same problem however I was just waiting to receive that damn subsidy unlock code from AT&T. Their retrieval process is very slow and painful, but unlocked my 8525 no problem. My question for you is did you notice a difference in call volume between carriers?? I am trying to determine if this was the fault of flashing my ROM to a custom one, or if that's just how t-mobile sounds...
HTC TyTn (Hermes100)
WM6 3.5 by Des
HardSPLv7
Unlocked
Call volume
I never had AT&T, so i couldn't tell you honestly. One thing I am noticing is that the dropped calls are not as frequent since I upgraded from a samsung.
The trickiest part of modding this WM6 phones, is that you gotta have the comm stuff current with T-Mobile.
I haven't been able to get my MMS working. Now i just messed up my networking stuff. I have some cab files for the T-Mobile devices, but i don't know how to install them. I am working on it.
As far as volume though (back to the subject, dumbo)... It seems clearer somewhat.
sim unlock
hey did you get any helpful advise on how to unlock the sim on your 8525 b cuz im having the same problem except it says 5 times tried(HELP)
i got an 8525 from cingular, trying to use it in t-mobile networks, no luck.
everytime i go to try out the new sim card, it says its lock. now, it says 10 times tried, wait for timeout.
i don't know what the hell to do now.
please give me some walk throughs, cuz im really stumped. thanks!
-Bractastic[/QUOTE]
Sim unlock
Did you get any helpful info on the sim lock for your 8525 smartphone bcuz im having same problem except mine says tried 5 times please help if you know how

Alltel 6800 flash to Verizon firmware?

Talked to a VZ tech today who told me that if i was to activate to VZW and get a phone I could do an ESN change (he would force the ESN on the VZW network) with my Alltel PPC6800....
One catch he said I had to flash the phone with the VZW firmware before he could do it so he could be held liable for extra charge if the phone wasnt VZW compatiable, also he can not supply me with the flash kit.
Anyone have any ideas on this ?
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Talked to a VZ tech today who told me that if i was to activate to VZW and get a phone I could do an ESN change (he would force the ESN on the VZW network) with my Alltel PPC6800....
One catch he said I had to flash the phone with the VZW firmware before he could do it so he could be held liable for extra charge if the phone wasnt VZW compatiable, also he can not supply me with the flash kit.
Anyone have any ideas on this ?
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Flash it, and then call him back. It not hard & works great.
flash the mr1 update. here's the wiki for flashing, recommend you read over that. you should however flash VZ's rom and have them program your phone before flashing any sort of custom rom.
DO NOT FLASH THE VZW MR1 ROM!
THis will lock down you GPS to be used only by VZ Navigator. Assuming that you care to have unlocked GPS.
Do you care about GPS?
Also need to know the ROM you have right now.
Go to System->Settings->About (?) and report what it says.
Flash To MR1 and use the Valhalla fix to unlock GPS. Or do like others said go to MR1 and then to a custom rom. Last choice is go to the Stock 6800 with no 6.1 and then go to a customer DCD rom after they authorize the phone. You have many choices.
Well since GPS wasnt really a factor to me i decided to go ahead and run the RUU_TITAN_VZW_WWE_3.57.605.1_RS_TITAN_3.37.75_OM_VZW_ShipFULL file from the HTC website and i got to 11% and got an error 294 Invalid Vendor ID
Do I need to unlock this phone first? makes sense but i didnt try first.
Also
Windows Mobile 6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1629 Build 18136.0.4.8
and
TITA100
SPL-2.07.0000
CPLD-9
instead of me getting frustrated and then drunk may i ask someone to layout the instructions they would follow to flash this alltel phone to the MR1 VZ flash...
All the reading is making my head hurt and i understand less and less the more i read
edit:: Ok 6 beers later i got the nerve up to use the Hard-SPL-MFG.exe and the RUU from the verizon site so far so good going monday to see about getting it turned on then i get to restore tomtom off of my sd card and follow the GPS fix and see if that works.
Thanks for the advice
Just an update
Just wanted to update everyone that VZ swapped my Alltel PPC over with no questions. They told us (me and the tech) to dial *228 and choose opt. 3 and the system activated no problem....maybe this is verizon getting ready for the Open Equipment Policy???? I dunno but it sure made my life a little easier...just got the dreaded PPP 11 Error now no help for that
edit:: So the tech that swapped my equipment an hour ago called me back from the store ( I work at Radioshack and VZ is four doors down so we are friends) to come and get my phone that the PPP 11 Error will be fixed tomorrow when a higher teir is at work that for SOME REASON ed(hehehe) the VZW system didnt recognize the ESN as a PPC and the Data Session was Hung somewhere. Everything else is working calling in and out and reg sms txt is sending just no Data till tomorrow
!!!!!!QUESTION for anyone who reads this....I just got to thinking this is something that should be on the Wiki for people with data problems mainly with all the Number porting,,,on the PPP usernames should it be
your MDN or MSID @vzw3g.com ???? because for some of us that is two different numbers
so what is the update on this because I can get the alltel version for like 50 while the vzw is twice as much not to mention the alltel version looks better.
It is a whole lot of work to try to get the phone on. And there are no guarantees
so even though Verizon is a parent company of Alltel I just can't flash it with Verizon rom and then get it activated on VZW?

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