Final Upgrading Guide and Questions Answered - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

Ok... now this is going to be a work in progress and an answer to most questions...
To all pof, Des and Sleuth have done a great job in getting the tools together so we can flash our devices...
1. To all who want to SuperCID your device no matter what ROM version you have and no matter what Radio BootLoader version you have you can use POF's version 3 unlocker found here http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
2. Once you have SuperCID your device you can now load extracted ExtRom, OS, and radio roms (radio can only be done if you have radio bootloader 107 or less) to do this goto http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG
3. For all of those not interested in ROM cooking and flashing cooked ExtROM's all you need to use is des's SSPL tool... just copy it onto your device and run it... the SPL version should say SPL-1.09.des. The tool can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293651
4. Just to clarify... once you have flashed radio bootloader 108 onto your device it is possible to do Extracted Radio only upgrades please read edit 3 below..... to check what radio bootloader version a radio rom has goto http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms and radio only upgraded require SPL 1.04... for instructions on how to flash that goto http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG
5. if your device is unusable please refer to here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
appologies for all the links but thats what the wiki is for guys... lots of reading but it is all worth while in the end...
and if ive missed anything feel free to add...
edit 1... The reason you SuperCID your device is to enable flashing of any SPL Bootloader versions, extracted OS roms, extracted ExtROM's and to an extent Radio ROM's (only if your device has RadioBootloader 107 or less).... but SuperCIDing your device voids the warranty... if your just looking to upgrade your device to a newer ROM and are worried about the warranty just use des's SSPL tool... read point 3 above...
edit 2... the SSPL tool... you need to copy this onto your device while windows mobile is running... if your device is not in a usable state refer to point 5... once its finished copying click on the exe and run it... it will put your device into a 'Service' mode and with bootloader versions IPL-SSPL by Des and SPL-1.09.ds... all you need to do now is choose which shipped original rom you want to use to flash your device with... see here for options http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
edit 3... now who wants the good news woo hoo!!!! i have managed to create an unsigned nbh file and flash it onto my device... now please all follow these details step by step
1. download this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294046
2. download the appropriate Full Shipped ROM from either the Trinity or the Hermes of which you want to rip the Radio from
3. download this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_NBH
4. extract the RUU_signed.nbh file from the exe using winrar or something
5. open a command prompt and point it to the same folder where you extracted the files you downloaded..
6. run nbhextract to extract the radio rom... delete all other .nb files except for 05_GSM.nb
7. edit the text file for nbhgen and delete all information except for this
HERM100
SuperCID
1.23.707.6
USA
300,05_GSM.nb
8. run nbhgen.. this will generate the nbh file required to flash your device...
9. copy SSPL to your device.. refer to here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293651
10. execute SSPL on your device which will put you into the 'Service' mode,
11. now run the RomUpgradeUT.exe file... and your done!!!!!!!! any questions just ask...

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Dead Tytn
my tytn have bootloader 1.09 and it doesn't come up so i can't copy any thing to it , what can i do ?

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jash431 said:
my tytn have bootloader 1.09 and it doesn't come up so i can't copy any thing to it , what can i do ?
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you need to boot it into Windows Mobile... can you do this?

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walshieau said:
you need to boot it into Windows Mobile... can you do this?
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I thought step 5 covered this.

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wpbear said:
I thought step 5 covered this.
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but he didnt read step 5... i hadnt added that bit yet

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Hello all,
I am a little confused about the issue of going back to BL 0107 if you flash Radio 1.33 + or Rom (say) 2.05 because you end up with BL 0108.
Isn't it true if you use Des's SSPL tool you can flash any ROM, so you can flash an older ROM, then you end up with older OS, Radio and Extended ROM as well as IPL and SPL??
Also if you use Boot loader 1.01 MFG, then upgrade individual components using MTTY??
With the latest developments over the past few days, it looks like Hermes is now an open field where one can try whatever combination as long as you can boot into service mode or Windows.
I would appreciate a comment from the developers confirming or explaining the current limitations.
Simple.

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Please Answer if you are sure
Look !
my tytn have bootloader 1.09 and during upgrade it stopped , that is to say my phone das no OS so I cannot pass "WIndows Mobile " Screen unless I upgrade fully upgrade rom . I have read and tried all suggested ways but they are not useful , because bootloader 1.09 checks CID but my CID is corrupted .
I need a way to pass CID check same as SSPL . but I cannot copy any thing to phone . The only way which can help me , is a file which able to pass phone's CID check from PC .

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jash431 said:
Look !
my tytn have bootloader 1.09 and during upgrade it stopped , that is to say my phone das no OS so I cannot pass "WIndows Mobile " Screen unless I upgrade fully upgrade rom . I have read and tried all suggested ways but they are not useful , because bootloader 1.09 checks CID but my CID is corrupted .
I need a way to pass CID check same as SSPL . but I cannot copy any thing to phone . The only way which can help me , is a file which able to pass phone's CID check from PC .
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ME TOO...
IF have one NEW VERSION with "SSPL",use Micro sd /RUU ,maybe can help me and you to reflash it ...

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walshieau
BIG THANKZzz for this information...

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simple said:
Hello all,
I am a little confused about the issue of going back to BL 0107 if you flash Radio 1.33 + or Rom (say) 2.05 because you end up with BL 0108.
Isn't it true if you use Des's SSPL tool you can flash any ROM, so you can flash an older ROM, then you end up with older OS, Radio and Extended ROM as well as IPL and SPL??
Also if you use Boot loader 1.01 MFG, then upgrade individual components using MTTY??
With the latest developments over the past few days, it looks like Hermes is now an open field where one can try whatever combination as long as you can boot into service mode or Windows.
I would appreciate a comment from the developers confirming or explaining the current limitations.
Simple.
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1. If you have radio bootloader 108 you cannot downgrade it...
2. Yes its true but that still wont downgrade your radio bootloader.. it will just downgrade your radio, os and extended rom
3. yes that is correct
4. current limitations read this... http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes

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jash431 said:
Look !
my tytn have bootloader 1.09 and during upgrade it stopped , that is to say my phone das no OS so I cannot pass "WIndows Mobile " Screen unless I upgrade fully upgrade rom . I have read and tried all suggested ways but they are not useful , because bootloader 1.09 checks CID but my CID is corrupted .
I need a way to pass CID check same as SSPL . but I cannot copy any thing to phone . The only way which can help me , is a file which able to pass phone's CID check from PC .
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ok now you have to open an mtty session... download this ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Cooked_ROMs/SPL-1.01MFG_Pack.zip
1. Disable 'Allow USB Connections' in Activesync
2. Open mtty.exe
3. type \\.\WCEUSBSH001 in the port section and click ok
4. press 'Enter' twice and type task 32 and press enter
4. type info 2 and tell me what is displayed...

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What about writing an app which fully identifies all Hermes specs? It should open a message box and answer whether device is SuperCID, which IPL, SPL, RBL, ROM, Radio and if readable which ExtROM. Wouldn't that be nice? Every noob could give all the information viable for all others to help.

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well if the user was to go and look at the device information application in 'Settings' > System then can find out what radio rom version they have when in turn if they look at the table in the wiki they can tell what version of Radio Bootloader they have... but i will investigate writing a little app... shouldnt be too hard...

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walshieau said:
edit 3... now who wants the good news woo hoo!!!! i have managed to create an unsigned nbh file and flash it onto my device... now please all follow these details step by step
1. download this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294046
2. download the appropriate Full Shipped ROM from either the Trinity or the Hermes of which you want to rip the Radio from
3. download this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_NBH
4. extract the RUU_signed.nbh file from the exe using winrar or something
5. open a command prompt and point it to the same folder where you extracted the files you downloaded..
6. run nbhextract to extract the radio rom... delete all other .nb files except for 05_GSM.nb
7. edit the text file for nbhgen and delete all information except for this
HERM100
SuperCID
1.23.707.6
USA
300,05_GSM.nb
8. run nbhgen.. this will generate the nbh file required to flash your device...
9. copy SSPL to your device.. refer to here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293651
10. execute SSPL on your device which will put you into the 'Service' mode,
11. now run the RomUpgradeUT.exe file... and your done!!!!!!!! any questions just ask...
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Just to be clear:
Can you put the new "RUU_signed.nbh" from step 8 above back into the full RUU....._ship.exe using Winrar and run it that way too?
This is very cool! So we can change to any radio ROM (upgrade or downgrade), but technically we will still have radio BL 108, but who cares.

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wpbear said:
Just to be clear:
Can you put the new "RUU_signed.nbh" from step 8 above back into the full RUU....._ship.exe using Winrar and run it that way too?
This is very cool! So we can change to any radio ROM (upgrade or downgrade), but technically we will still have radio BL 108, but who cares.
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1. i havent tried that... what is the point??
2. yes that is correct...

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dead tytn jash431
my dead tytn has these informations:
1- task 32 ----> Level = FF
2- info 2 ----> HTCSF kEØ(HTCEUSB>
3- bootloader 1.09
4- stop on "windows Mobile" screen

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jash431 said:
my dead tytn has these informations:
1- task 32 ----> Level = FF
2- info 2 ----> HTCSF kEØ(HTCEUSB>
3- bootloader 1.09
4- stop on "windows Mobile" screen
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check your pm

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Hi Walshieau,
After I follow your edit 3 step, when I try to upgrade the radio,
it shown Error 262. What's that error message for?
Thanks

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did you copy SSPL to your device and run it before you started the upgrade???

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Am I right in thinking I could mix and match all the components with this tool?
I.E. extract the o.s. from one full update then extract the radio from another, then use "NBF generator" to merge them and flash them all at once?