Hi All,
I'm seeking the opinion of current Rose owners.
The north american version of the Rose is about to be released in Canada (labelled as HTC S743) It looks to be identical in all respects to the S740 except that the radio is adjusted for north american 3G frequencies.
I'm currently using the S730 and I used to have a VOX until my wife decided that she liked it. When I look at the specs for the S743 and the reviews online, my initial reaction is that I MUST have one. But before I go out and spend that kind of money, my questions for you Rose owners are:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
I appreciate any opinions you have to offer.
Thanks,
Canuk
Canuk said:
Hi All,
I'm seeking the opinion of current Rose owners.
The north american version of the Rose is about to be released in Canada (labelled as HTC S743) It looks to be identical in all respects to the S740 except that the radio is adjusted for north american 3G frequencies.
I'm currently using the S730 and I used to have a VOX until my wife decided that she liked it. When I look at the specs for the S743 and the reviews online, my initial reaction is that I MUST have one. But before I go out and spend that kind of money, my questions for you Rose owners are:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
I appreciate any opinions you have to offer.
Thanks,
Canuk
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Not sure if i am a good reference, since i am absolutely in love with this device. am still trying to answer your questions:
More responsive? absolutely so. owned a vox before that, and these two devices are worlds apart. both processor power and ram wise (ran out of ram on the vox on several occasions resulting in program crashes when simultaniously running nav software and pocket player for example. never happened with the rose so far, and doubt it ever will. not even gonna start talking about lockups on the vox because of the rather feeble processor.)
Will it fit a pocket? depends on your pocket i suppose. fits fine in mine (i do not wear baggy pants. its not really that large anyways. compared to the vox: same depth, slimmer, but a bit longer.)
battery life moderate use? mine lasts for about 24 hours. not sure if that could be a reference point tho: fairly heavy browsing, 3g and bluetooth and ActiveSync push on 24/7, tons of progs running in the background, a2dp stream for 2-3 hours, sometimes some wifi. itll definately last from morning till sometime around midnight.
if i could change one thing? acquiring my baby ripped quite a big hole into my pocket back then...
hope that helps,
.-ombre-.
Released in Canada by whom, and where???
I just got one last week. If you like the Vox & Wings then you'll absolutely love the Rose.
This phone is very responsive. The typical annoyance of HTC smartpones like: unresponsive keypad, d-pad that occasionally missed when action key is pressed are gone. The addition of GPS is a big welcome.
Regarding the size, It's a bit longer but narrower, so it felt good on the palm and can be easily slipped into the pocket. I use a landyard and carry it naked.
Regarding battery life: I push my email and let my messanger on all day and the battery can last for the whole day. So the battery is good.
If I could change one thing: I wish it has video call ability like the wings.
Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it and you have helped me make my decision.
Ombre - I share your pain on the cash outlay! Fortunately this would qualify as a legitimate business expense for me so I don't have to shoulder the entire $$ burden myself.
Kardboard - It was supposed to be released on Expansys this Monday, but I've just checked the site and it seems we are going to have to wait for a couple more weeks.
Thanks again!
Canuk
AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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Maybe you're using Opera 9.5 for the PPC and not the SP one (there's no opera 9.5 for the SP).
Just use Iris Browser, latest versions are very good.
Urgon said:
AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/
About CHome, I can add windows Live, Contacts (several pages) without any problems.
Opera for smartphone is only version 8.5. Use OperaMini, it's really good and free.
AVE...
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This program is great. Thank you.
And yes, I used wrong version of Opera. But for now I'll use Iris...
There are also two programs I wish to recommend for any Rose user:
Mobipocket Reader - for ebooks;
Palringo - for IM.
I used Mobipocket Reader before with Nokia E50(Symbian s60v3) and I must tell you: it's very good piece of freeware.
On the other hand Palringo has limited functionality. It can connect with many IM protocols(unfortunately not with Gadu-Gadu), but it has some functions I like: it can send voice messages and photos to anyone on IM contact list and it works well with Jabber transports. I tried few Jabber clients, but they didn't worked well enough...
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To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
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I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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I'm fresh from a nokia e61, here's my take after about a week's worth of use:
Responsiveness is as fast as most smartphones on the market today. Not exactly dumbphone-snappy, but not nearly slow enough to get in your way. The only thing that might bug you is the one-second delay you get when you slide the thing open and shut on anything except the home screen; personally, I didn't mind it that much.
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
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Funny you should ask that…when I first cracked the box open, it had a sticker on the screen that said, I quote, "remove phone from pants pocket before sitting down." Found it kinda ironic, as it's not nearly hefty or bulky enough to actually warrant such a label. To be fair, it's rather hefty compared to most phones, and in fact about as thick as a whiteboard marker. I've found the design hides its bulk quite well (the faceted back cover in fact makes it look slimmer than it is).
Battery life was disappointing, frankly, but as a disclaimer, my previous phone had a ridiculously long-lasting battery for a smartphone. I'm able to pull about a day's worth of usage with auto-checking email every 5 minutes, about 8 texts in and out, 3G on, and light wifi browsing.
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
Another thing that bugs me is the inconsistent function of the "back" button. In some apps it deletes, in other times (like menu navigation) it takes you to the previously viewed menu/app, some other times it serves as a back button from within an application.
As for fortes, I think the best feature would be HTC's homescreen GUI overlay. It's extremely functional and logical, listing clock, calendar, missed calls and alerts, messaging, mail, etc, etc. I've found it to be so functional, in fact, that I hardly ever dive into the (admittedly rather unsightly) underlying WinMo menus. For most information you might need at-a-glance from your mobile, the homescreen certainly delivers.
Just my take. Hope it helps you, or if not, some other forum-lurker or prospective buyer.
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[email protected] said:
To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/...QUOTE]
I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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Try Vito CopyPaste.
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Hi ninethreetwo,
Thanks for the input. I definitely prefer to carry the phone in my pocket. I've had some larger phones in the past that were too big for pockets (Blue Angel, Harrier, Palm 700wx) and I just couldn't find a convenient place to put the belt case. I was always catching in on things or crushing it when I got in to the car. One of the reasons for buying a Vox was the compact and "pocket friendly" form factor.
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Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
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I can relate. My one complaint about many of the smartphone interfaces is that it oftentimes takes too many clicks to get what I want. On the Wings I modificed the HTC interface slightly to include the recent apps gui (like in the default interface) which helped tremendously.
Thanks again for your feedback! I appreciate the time that you and the other contributers to this thread have taken to provide such considered and detailed responses.
Thanks,
Canuk
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I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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You can select text in Word Mobile. As Master Yoda would say: "use the [shift] key, Luke". Simply open file, select EDIT, place cursor where you want to start your selection, hold down [shift] and scroll down with D-Pad.
Next, for SmartToolkit work you must install RC8 version. Also in Control Panel>General set "On Homescreen" to be "SmartToolkit Taskbar", and in Control Panel > Hotkeys set [Clipboard] to be your D-Pad button. This way you will be able to use your standard options on Homescreen made by HTC and in the same time use SmartToolkit. And in Control Panel > Gadgets you can create easy-accessed shortcuts and Pop-up Launcher lists with your programs, it's very useful.
It looks like this:
ninethreetwo said:
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
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You can use CHome Configurator (grab the CAB from the Excalibur board) to add shorcuts to favorite applications at the home panels (See attached screenshot). It's very easy, here are the steps:
1. Open CHome Configurator
2. Show 'CLinks' and hilight it and press action to customize
3. Then Go to 'Menu/Page/New'
4. Then in the new page, click 'Menu\Template\Application Launcher'
5. Select the application that you want, set the name & icon
6. Repeat the procedure for as many shortcut as you like
7. Once finished, save at exit.
Other alternative is to use quick launcher application like xBar, RightMenu, SmartToolKit or just use a different theme which use rjshorcut plugins. The best place to get S740 themes is here:
http://www.nectun.com/galerie.php?langue=en&id_type_skin=-1&id_type_tel=15
Use this free Theme Changer to compliment the themes that you download:
http://www.ifihadadollarforeverytimesomeonesaidthatiwouldhavemyownwebsite.com/ThemeChanger/
To remapped the home key, you can use software like AEButtonPlus or Hotbutton Plus
Cheers!
Thenext1 and Urgon, thank you for your replies.
I downloaded Vito CopyPaste version 1.3 and installed it.
It does work (e.g. in Mail), however for some reason doesn't in Word Mobile.
Very disappointing
The selection method of shift+D-pad works, so at last I can edit text afterwards.
However copy/cut/paste with ctrl+C/X/V doesn't work in Word Mobile.
This (regular) option however works in other apps (e.g. Mail, SMS, Contacts).
I also installed SmartToolkit RC08 and changed the settings as suggested.
It certainly works now very well and isn't intrusive for the Home screen with HTC sliding panels. It also (for now) doesn't slow down or freeze (like I experienced with RC09).
But, while I can get copy/cut/paste working in other applications, also this doesn't work in Word Mobile.
Is somehow in Word Mobile the possibility of using copy/cut/paste blocked ?
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It shall work, certainly works for me. You have to hold down the D-pad button for 0,5 seconds to access clipboard menu. It may be also required to restart your phone in order to make it work.
Below you can see my clipboard menu in Word Mobile.
BTW, the whole Office package is useless, because you can't create new documents.
Urgon said:
AVE...
It shall work, certainly works for me. You have to hold down the D-pad button for 0,5 seconds to access clipboard menu. It may be also required to restart your phone in order to make it work.
Below you can see my clipboard menu in Word Mobile.
BTW, the whole Office package is useless, because you can't create new documents.
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I agree, especially Word mobile is completely useless, even for opening documents created on a PC.
Excel sort-of works when opening documents.
Powerpoint instead is near-perfect.
Well, I tried copy/paste again with SmartToolkit in Word Mobile and now it worked. Must have done something wrong before.
That Word Mobile is a very crippled text editor is certainly true.
But sometimes you really need a text-editor and beggars can't be choosers.
On my reliable iPAQ hx4700 I use Textmaker, almost as powerfull as the Windows version, which is one of the best alternatives for MS Word. The same is true for Planmaker (PPC an Windows versions) as alternative for Excel.
The problem of not being able to create a new document or worksheet in WinMo 6 Standard can be solved easily bij copying an empty .doc and an empty.xls file from your PC to your Smartphone. Use these files and save them as another file afer editing (so you keep the empty files unchanged)
A more elegant solution is the free donew (I believe I saw this tip in one of the threads in this Rose forum, so credits where they are due): it creates 2 extra links in "Office Mobile" to an empty Word and empty Excel file.
Canuk said:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
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I only had a few moments with Vox, but I would say that difference is quite noticable. Especially RAM is an overkill on Rose.
Canuk said:
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
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I always carry it in my pocket without a problem. It isn't the thinniest phone in the world, though.
Canuk said:
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
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I would say 1.5 day on average. Mine lasts between 1 to 3 days depending on usage.
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If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
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Hard to say really, it doesn't miss much. I would like it a little bit thinner.
Hi,
I'm going on my hols next week and I'm looking at this folding keyboard to use while I'm away, but I just thought I had better ask for your opinions on this keyboard. Basically, I just wanted to know if it will work with the HTC Touch HD?
Thanks in Advance,
Grant.
Palm Wireless Keyboard with Bluetooth Wireless Technology - keyboard?
Are you serious? I think the name of the product speaks for itself.
Yeah, I was actually being serious was because i'm on a tight budget and it looked pretty much the same as the freedom bluetooth keyboard "http://www.moguldepot.com/freedom-universal-bluetooth-keyboard/14A42A229.htm" which supports both HID and SPProfiles, but obviously I'm wrong or is there some sort of driver out there? Sorry but I'm a bit of a noob with these kinda things.
Thanks again,
Grant
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Hi again,
This keyboard has just arrived, at first glance I though I had no hope of getting this working. Anyways, the first thing I did was run the instasllation disc WITHOUT my touch HD being synced with the computer, this cause the installation .exe to be extracted to "C:\program files\microsoft activesync\palm HID keyboard" I manually copied that .cab file to my phone where I ran it, it succesfully installed I then opened the driver on the device and held the sync key on the keyboard to no avil they didn't pair. I did a soft reset of my device and it tried again... -jump for joy- it worked!! So if anyone is in need of a cheap bluetooth keyboard use the palm it works a treat!!! buy it from amozon heres the link www.amazon.co.uk/Palm-3245WW-Bluetooth-Keyboard-QWERTY/dp/B000OQ1XGO
Thanks,
Grant
P.S. My ROM is the stock unlocked WM6.1
I have this keyboard. When the HID driver is open I first put the keyboard in HID-mode (switch to the right). Then I tick the "active driver" box in the driver and directly after that I hold the B button on the top left of the keyboard until the driver responds with "connection" and the blinking led on the keyboard goes out.
Good luck!
want chinese natural handwriting recognition, but don't have $1000 for a wacom cintiq graphics tablet? google to the rescue. This is another one of those "why didn't I think of it before?" things whose answer a couple years ago was simply because it wasn't possible nor practical.
I know, microsoft pocket pc has had the Transcriber function for over 10yrs, but the english version couldn't recognize chinese, and the asian ime cabs, well, the largest ones i could find had writing surfaces of about a square centimeter, try using that with a stylus! Almost as frustrating as using a regular wacom on a Windows onscreen Handwriting Recognition drawing pad, that is if you can manage to get it installed on windows.
Requirement:
1. Android Tablet or phone.
2. free gPen writing program from android market, plus Google PinYin IME,
3. Instant Message program of your choice
4. WiFi/internet
Maybe I couldn't find the answer because I can't write much chinese, don't use IM much, and until I got the 7" android tablet, only had the 1cm IME on my WinMo phone.
The free android market SCUT gPen program on the tablet gives you a 4"x4" writing area, can toggle to full screen if you like, and has very fast and accurate writing recognition. I'm using it with the Hanping Chinese Dictionary for offline chinese learning
As for IM, i tried skype (too big), Evernote(60mb limit), DropBox(no IM), Fring(no pc, huh?), YahooMessenger(delay/offline issues), LiveMessenger(delay/offline issues), finally settling with Palringo, which works pretty fast on both android and PC. When I finish a sentence on my tablet, I right click on PC to copy to clipboard, and paste whereever i want.
So, my current setup involves, Palringo IM(free), 7"dellStreak(refurb under $100-$200), gPen (free), and Wifi. I suppose the cheaper ePad ($70 Android ipad on ebay) would work too... hell, even if only using my HD2, this combo is still way better than any PenPower or Wacom Graphics Tablet out there just for chinese handwriting.
I'm still a noob with regards to android and IM in general, since I'm still dualbooting the HD2 (90% on WM6.5). So here're my questions:
1. Anyone know of an easier IM program to copy/paste the writing over WiFi?
2. How well do those ebay $2-$20 capacitive pen work for writing? (are they all created equal?) (if anyone has any experience of it on the Streak7 or Samsung Tab?)
3. Recommendation for other drawing programs that'll work over wifi/IM ?
Hanping Chinese Dictionary Pro now has Chinese handwriting recognition built-in.
atlaswing said:
... So here're my questions:
1. Anyone know of an easier IM program to copy/paste the writing over WiFi?
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3. Recommendation for other drawing programs that'll work over wifi/IM and for chinese handwriting?
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Problem solved (?)
This is an interesting topic that had until now escaped my attention. I will risk a scold.
Maybe we can use this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.teamprof.WifiHandwritePadPro
(Better use unified remote as described in edit2, below in this same post)
This program uses your android device as input. It does not recognize characters, it doesn't serve as drawing pad. I just gets characters from your android device and sends them to your PC. It is up to you to get a chinese input for your android, first, so you can use this software for chinese.
wifi handwrite pad uses a propietary program to link to windows and linux. This eliminates the need of IM and one copy paste in your scheme.
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There are several chinese ime. For instance, sogou. It can recognize drawings into chinese characters, a la pleco. It is free. Pair with wifi handwrite pad your favorite pc-mobile input link and you have a character recognizer in your android powered device
Heck, I wish this existed 2 years ago. hahaha.
EDIT2:
Maybe you will want to try Unified Remote for android instead of the other app. Because it is cheaper, first. It also supports many other functions. This latter advantage might have a 5 minute configuration penalty (learning curve) attached. Works like a charm too
EDIT3:
You can use Google chinese input (IME), since it is english friendly. Sougou is far better, but the interface is in 中文 only
I know this is an old thread but I am interested in something that can do this now. I've been buying expensive devices to input Chinese characters for my parents but they keep breaking. We have extra Android tablets and would be very interested in a way to provide input from Android in the form of Chinese characters onto their Windows 10 PC.
just want to help all Chinese linux users with handwriting input as a redemption for my using everything open source all these years. Download KDE Connect at both ends. Find a handwriting app and install in your android phone. Use remote input via your phone.
I feel inconvenience using flyer basic memo app.
Because virtual keyboard pops up suddenly, and note is automatically saved with pause.
Do you think that app is useful?
If you guys are using other note app, please inform me what app it is.
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Well when I still was running the HTC Flyer on Gingerbread, I used notes and someone had a good tip: Press your left hand thumb on the left side of the page (the very left where you can't write on anyway). Just hold the thumb down while you are writing and the keyboard wont come up and also the softbuttons wont trigger eventually.
This actually made the notes app quiet useful.
However - since I mostly annotate pdfs I moved to Honeycomb and use ezpdf in combination with tapeatalk (tapeatalk is the best solution for audio recording anyway since the file is automatically named as a date and even with 3gp the voice recording quality is good - it also never crashes while notes has its problems with multitasking, audio recording, saving and notetaking at the same time).
My suggestion: Move on to Honeycomb - you will find more sophisticated solutions (others also mentioned handwriting recognition with writepad).
Have fun!
i moved on to hc
i'm satisfied with hc! lol
thanks for your advice
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Well when I still was running the HTC Flyer on Gingerbread, I used notes and someone had a good tip: Press your left hand thumb on the left side of the page (the very left where you can't write on anyway). Just hold the thumb down while you are writing and the keyboard wont come up and also the softbuttons wont trigger eventually.
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Cool, although... I wish it could be disabled instead.
I found it useful to use a Null Keyboard. I think there are only a few on the market, one of which is free. You would just enable the null keyboard in settings, long press in HTC Notes and choose the Input Method as the null keyboard. No keyboard would popup if you activate a text cursor. That solution worked better in Gingerbread from what I remember. In Honeycomb, the null keyboard also disabled the pens button, whereas I think you could still access the pens in Gingerbread.
Mind me asking, but are there any folks out that would say that the keyboard popup annoyance is way bigger on Honeycomb compared to Gingerbread? I had a really long meeting on Friday where I constantly fought with the keyboard, and it went a bit better on Gingerbread as far as I remember.
As for the null keyboard. Let's assume it's working the way as intended - wouldn't that mean I'd always had to switch to a full keyboard once I want to use one in a different app (e.g. 'the browser')?
I really use the USP of the Flyer (i.e. the notes option) heavily in my job, so I am keen on getting the keyboard thing solved for once .
I don't think the popup problem is any bigger in Honeycomb, in my experience. I just use the same put-your-finger-on-the-spiral trick that Himmig mentioned earlier, which works maybe 80% of the time.
Yes, you do have to switch back from the null keyboard. It's one-too-many long-presses away for me to be able to call it convenient, but it works OK (again, only in gingerbread). If the null keyboard didn't turn off the pens in honeycomb, it would have been perfect because there is a keyboard-selection panel next to the notification area where you can quickly switch between keyboards. Perhaps this is not the case for all null keyboards?
bluebear13 said:
I don't think the popup problem is any bigger in Honeycomb, in my experience. I just use the same put-your-finger-on-the-spiral trick that Himmig mentioned earlier, which works maybe 80% of the time.
Yes, you do have to switch back from the null keyboard. It's one-too-many long-presses away for me to be able to call it convenient, but it works OK (again, only in gingerbread). If the null keyboard didn't turn off the pens in honeycomb, it would have been perfect because there is a keyboard-selection panel next to the notification area where you can quickly switch between keyboards. Perhaps this is not the case for all null keyboards?
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This finger trick works like a charm!!
Also, I use the stock note app and even though it is not perfect, it gets the job done very well! I have not used a single sheet of paper since the beginning of this semester.
Even though, the flyer went on sale for 300 last week and I lost 200 bucks, it has been the best money I've spent! I absolutely love this tablet!
Regards.
Hello,
Let me comment also about this subject...
Flyer's most outstanding feature is that pen and it's really hard to understand why HTC was ok with that simple built in Notes (even it's Evernote for HTC) and didn't bring a really powerful note take application to make a full use of the pen.
I don't want to fire any polemics but if this innovation would have been introduced by Apple, you couldn't have imagine how they would promote it with a bundled strong application with it (even paid one). Anyway, this is some other topic...
Now, I also use Notes synched with Evernote but there are some issues. I have a number of notebooks but they aren't fully synched with Evernote. In one sync session say only 3 notebooks, in other 4 but never the all. Second, the well-mentioned keyboard issue. Since I'm left handed the trick didn't work me so well.
Now I'm in HC and using an app called "Antipaper Notes". I liked it very much but the trial version is too limited. I would like to buy the pro version (or "activation" with their wording) but they say it's deactivated say when you flash a custom rom or delete app. So I didn't go for it. But as I told the app is quite well.
I also heard about Quill but didn't have any chance to try it out. I've tried Skitch, a product of Evernote, which is also better for hand notetaking. If you don't have to take a photo or record a sound, these seem to very well.
I expect HTC to make powerful applications for the pen at least for note, sketch and paint. Ok, they've released Pen SDK but still we don't have good bundled SWs.
To sum up,
1. Antipaper Notes (tried, very well but restricted)
2. Skitch (over the average, good note take)
3. Native Notes (don't like that but using)
If you have tried different programs, could you please add up and comment so that we can try?
Thanks.
I can suggest all of you to use tasker to automatically switch between null keyboard in notes and stock/other keyboard in other applications. I have successfully make tasker profile for this task. But you must install secure setting plugin to give tasker access to Android secure setting!
If you use null keyboard in native Notes, there will be no lag even though we used it for speed writing. Just like wacom tablet PC!
iwansuryo said:
I can suggest all of you to use tasker to automatically switch between null keyboard in notes and stock/other keyboard in other applications. I have successfully make tasker profile for this task. But you must install secure setting plugin to give tasker access to Android secure setting!
If you use null keyboard in native Notes, there will be no lag even though we used it for speed writing. Just like wacom tablet PC!
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That sounds interesting, maybe good to give a try. Btw, are u using GB or HC? I am using HC and wonder if these are compatible with HC. Guess found out when I go home...
Edit: iwansuryo, could you please detail how to create a profile in tasker? I couldn't figure out how to make switch in between apps?
You need the secure setting plug in and null keyboard. Set a task that when notes opens the input method is null keyboard. Make the exit task that the input method is whatever keyboard you use
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avoid keyboard popping up.
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You need the secure setting plug in and null keyboard. Set a task that when notes opens the input method is null keyboard. Make the exit task that the input method is whatever keyboard you use
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here is the trick I use to avoid the keyboard popping up. always ensure the pen is pressured and pressed on the screen before placing the rest of the hand on the screen. once you do that, you can freely move your hand and even lift both your hand and pen off the screen and go back on the screen palm first ( if you do it quickly ) as you would normally when writing. it takes some practice, but it will become second nature in no time. I find it work better than the thumb trick.
The BIGGEST downfall is that handwritting to text is so bad :\
The Lenovo tablet works ok, but it isn't too good of a general note taking app.
I wish the HTC note app supported conversion, would improve it 10X, especially since the majority of note taking I take gets converted into One note text doc.