Ok well I had a unlocked 8125 and I stumbled across a new 8525 for 150, so I picked that up... Now I should be getting it tomorrow and my question is this...
I'm assuming I fall under the post April category(being brand new) with the difficult SIM unlocking procedure... Now I'm not really in to switching around my carrier, I have AT&T its a AT&T branded phone and I'm fine with that... the only thing I really care about is being able to flash different OS roms and whatnot.
So do I just run the auto unlocker and only select CID unlock??
I've been trying to read and find out if the auto unlocker CID option will still work for post April units but I haven't been able to find the response yet.
Or am I totally in left field on this??? Do I need both CID and SIM unlocked to do OS rom flashes??
I acquired the 8125 already unlocked and those tend to be easier to do stuff to than these, or I'm just not reading the right thread.
Any info is appreciated.
I will not be turning the unit on till I hear a response from you guys. Worse case I just wont let the customization complete.
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Ok well I had a unlocked 8125 and I stumbled across a new 8525 for 150, so I picked that up... Now I should be getting it tomorrow and my question is this...
I'm assuming I fall under the post April category(being brand new) with the difficult SIM unlocking procedure... Now I'm not really in to switching around my carrier, I have AT&T its a AT&T branded phone and I'm fine with that... the only thing I really care about is being able to flash different OS roms and whatnot.
So do I just run the auto unlocker and only select CID unlock??
I've been trying to read and find out if the auto unlocker CID option will still work for post April units but I haven't been able to find the response yet.
Or am I totally in left field on this??? Do I need both CID and SIM unlocked to do OS rom flashes??
I acquired the 8125 already unlocked and those tend to be easier to do stuff to than these, or I'm just not reading the right thread.
Any info is appreciated.
I will not be turning the unit on till I hear a response from you guys. Worse case I just wont let the customization complete.
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You only need to do CID for that purpose. You are correct. Of course, doing SIM won't hurt you, but you only NEED CID.
Ok so when I get this phone... turn it on, do touch screen thing, do other crap, and CANCEL the customization with a soft reboot??? and then I can sim unlock it?
What sim unlocker do I use and whats the best radio for my location? Phone will actually be delivered today so this is why I'm asking.
Wait I think I got it... Turn on phone... Reboot before customization...
Run AUTO_Unlock_v3a once connected, after 1.16 radio installed then run Herm_Unlock_v3.exe to unlock it and once that is done run SoftBank_1.33.761.4_Extrom to remove the bootloader update.exe and then I can hard reboot without problems...
That sound right? This is following POF's thread on how to unlock these... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301952
I just run olipro 2.10 hardspl v7 and then I can flash any rom and radio I wish.
Yes but mine is a post April release phone which aparently has a radio bootloader update to 0182 which then makes the Radio rom un updatable, or impossible to unlock the sim.
Unless I dont need the Sim unlocked to do radio updates... but the more I read leads me to believe I wont be able to update the radio if I let the 0182 radio bootloader update run.
OR unless I'm completely retarded and this doesnt apply to the AT&T 8525.... I cant really find that on here.
Either way I'M LOST!
Yeah I think I'm retarded and read too far into this... I don't think the AT&T 8525's have this Radio Bootloader update thingy thats coming on the SoftBank phones...
Well all is good... fired the phone up, used it for all of 20 min before I used the auto unlocker on it unlocked CID and SIM, and then flashed it with VP3G WM6 rom, and the newest 1.54 radio... all is good so far.
Ok, I think I'm still at 1.04 IPL and 1.40 SPL, Olipro, is it worth it for me to install the Hard SPL v7 update??
IPL and SPL stuff on these phones are slightly more confusing than on the older 8125's
Also how do you get to the 3 color boot loader screen manually?
I did a HTC WM6 flash, wasnt very impressed and went back to the vp3G setup... Also is the 1.54.07 radio any good... the HTC rom put me down to 1.48 and since the 1.54 takes 20 min to upload I may leave it as is right now.
BerettaFreak said:
Ok, I think I'm still at 1.04 IPL and 1.40 SPL, Olipro, is it worth it for me to install the Hard SPL v7 update??
IPL and SPL stuff on these phones are slightly more confusing than on the older 8125's
Also how do you get to the 3 color boot loader screen manually?
I did a HTC WM6 flash, wasnt very impressed and went back to the vp3G setup... Also is the 1.54.07 radio any good... the HTC rom put me down to 1.48 and since the 1.54 takes 20 min to upload I may leave it as is right now.
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I would update to the latest HardSPLv7. Oli makes it better every time - more protection.
1.54 is an AT&T release, so it is probably better than 1.48. I think 1.50 was also an AT&T release, but you can use it and see if it works. The biggest difference usually seems to be battery.
Regarding putting into bootloader screen, I don't have my phone on front of me, but I am sure it is in the wiki. It is a right side button, a left side button and the press the reset hole on the bottom. I think it is the bottom side buttons - OK, PTT and the reset hole. (I think)
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Hello all,
I got a friend of mine who came to me with a device-password locked Hermes, which password he cannot recall (actually his girlfriend...). I said I would be willing to give him a hand to unbrick the device. The problem is that I cannot install any ROM on the device, coz I got an error connection right after the screen goes white and the percentage count should normally start.
So I put the Herm in Bootloader (spl-1.06) and try to flash the OliPro Bootloader. The procedure goes correctly until the step where the upgrade itself should begin, counting from 0%... here, I got:
ERROR [262]: Update error: communication error.
I also tried to flash a ROM directly, but since my Bootloader is 1.06, I didn't find a CID match ROM, so it also failed. The Herm is now not bricked, but it stays at the password input screen, so cannot enter windows properly.
Any help on this?
Thanks,
Ionutz
Interesting since you are trying to go around something HTC probably did not want for people to go around due to security....
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Interesting since you are trying to go around something HTC probably did not want for people to go around due to security....
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yes, i grih you,and normally i wouldnt even try to do such thing, if it hadnt been for a friend of mine which i know.
besides i would like to learn more stuff about my Herm and this is one thing I havent seen discussed here, although i keep reading xda forums for such info.
just found the solution: i flashed another ROM with same CID since my BL was 1.06, but with BL 1.04. After that, I managed to flash any other ROM and automatically upgrade the SPL to 1.10 or 2.10 Oli accordingly.
If any of you interested and dont get the short explanation, PM me.
cheers,
Io, owner of 2 kicking TyTn's
BL 1.06 didnt allow devices with a different CID to be flashed,
eg: my TyTN had the CID: QTEK001 so i couldnt flash a ROM destined for a device with CID: VODAP001
But BL 1.04 had a bug where you COULD flash any ROM to the device regardless of the CID, the first attempt shows a vendor ID error, then try again and it will flash no problem.
The simplest way I would have got past the device security problem would have been a hard reset.
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BL 1.06 didnt allow devices with a different CID to be flashed,
eg: my TyTN had the CID: QTEK001 so i couldnt flash a ROM destined for a device with CID: VODAP001
But BL 1.04 had a bug where you COULD flash any ROM to the device regardless of the CID, the first attempt shows a vendor ID error, then try again and it will flash no problem.
The simplest way I would have got past the device security problem would have been a hard reset.
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I know the details about BL 1.04 vs 1.06, thats why I flashed a BL 1.04 ROM, but with the same CID QTEK_001, or smth.
I have to admit though that I never ever thought about doing a simple hard-reset. I guess it would have been to easy, I jumped to more complicate scenarios. Thanks for the help anyway, i gotta learn that.
Thanks mrvanx, glad I read down the whole thread to the part about a simple hard reset working. I lent my 8525 to a friend, thinking he might be interested in buying it, then he didn't have the money, and after I listed it on ebay today, I charged it up to flash to ATT stock, found it password locked, called my friend a few times just getting his voicemail, so tried flashing, and it said the Hermes wasn't connected to the PC...
I figured there would be a solution here at XDA..and POOF, like magic here it is!
So yes, all I had to do was a hard reset, tested and it works, and it was simple, so thanks again mrvanx, although this thread is very old, glad I found it LOL!
Hi everyone,my name's Larry and I just registered to the forums. Please forgive my newness but I am in a bit of a pickle here.
I have a MDA Vario II, aka Hermes 300, that I bought s/h off ebay. Works fine,no worries, but I upgraded to WM6 because i felt browsing was a little slow and the screen graphics werent as good as I expected. The upgrade was from the T-mobile site itself and all went fine. Only thing is I dont believe this phone can handle it(needs more RAM really) and after being online a while it gets really slow,like steerig a cow through treacle at times so I came to the conclusiong it was a bad move! Now I've noticed a link on here about downgrading to WM5 but is it that easy for one with no specialised tools or knowledge(tho i did build my own PC, or should I say ahem WE did)
Also a problem the phone has developed since the upgrade is it keep deleting my email settings, even tho on the 'desktop' screen it tells me i have so many unread emails in each account! So now i cant check emails from it either!
I do hope I can sort this out cos it is really frustrating having a PDA and not being able to browse properly!
Many thanks
Larry
Welcome to XDA-Developers larry. Well Firstly i would start with CID unlocking your device so that you can flash any rom you can do that by downloading hard spl from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then once you have flashed that you can basically download and install any rom for the hermes. I have an mda vario ii and hate the t-mobile rom as it installs quite a bit of useless crap. I never use and it is also so damn ugly. if after installing a new rom you find you have internet connection problems and/or mms settings then download and run this http://rapidshare.com/files/92547562/UK_Setup.exe that will install the settings for internet and mms for all uk networks, the majority of the cooked roms on here though ,already have a network wizard to set it up for you, but better to be safe than sorry
P.S. I forgot to add if you are looking for speed and extra ram i would look for a vanilla(clean) rom, install that and then add the apps you want via cab files, you will find them scattered about all over this site
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Welcome to XDA-Developers larry. Well Firstly i would start with CID unlocking your device so that you can flash any rom you can do that by downloading hard spl from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then once you have flashed that you can basically download and install any rom for the hermes. I have an mda vario ii and hate the t-mobile rom as it installs quite a bit of useless crap. I never use and it is also so damn ugly. if after installing a new rom you find you have internet connection problems and/or mms settings then download and run this http://rapidshare.com/files/92547562/UK_Setup.exe that will install the settings for internet and mms for all uk networks, the majority of the cooked roms on here though ,already have a network wizard to set it up for you, but better to be safe than sorry
P.S. I forgot to add if you are looking for speed and extra ram i would look for a vanilla(clean) rom, install that and then add the apps you want via cab files, you will find them scattered about all over this site
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Ah thanks for that but I have no idea what CID unlocking is(do you mean like unlocking the phone to other networks?) Also what's hard spl?? Totally in the dark about this!
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Ah thanks for that but I have no idea what CID unlocking is(do you mean like unlocking the phone to other networks?) Also what's hard spl?? Totally in the dark about this!
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all your question answered here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
I have looked thru the wiki and cannot find the advice I need.
My device has the following on it and what I would like to know is if I can actually drowngrade the device back to WM5.
The rom version is 3.60.110.4 (T-mobile UK)
The radio version is 1.50.00.00 so I assume that it is boot 0108.
The IPL is 1.04 and the SPL 2.03.
The protocol reads as follows 32.83.7020.20H
I have come across a guide that states if the radio is above 1.27.00.00 then downgrading may not be possible.
"(NOTE: If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error.)" -http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27
The other question I would like to ask is this - it is possible to put another verion of WM6 on with this radio version?
Thanks for any advice!
Can anyone help me here!
Do I need to SIM unlock my PDA to update the ROM to a custom ROM, for example Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.30 which I recently downloaded from here.
At the moment it is locked to T-mobile. I have also updated the SPL to 2.10 olipro and the radio is at 1.50.00.00 and the HTC boot is 0108.
Thanks guys
Larry
Hermes300 said:
Can anyone help me here!
Do I need to SIM unlock my PDA to update the ROM to a custom ROM, for example Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.30 which I recently downloaded from here.
At the moment it is locked to T-mobile. I have also updated the SPL to 2.10 olipro and the radio is at 1.50.00.00 and the HTC boot is 0108.
Thanks guys
Larry
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I think you might not have gotten help 'cause it doesn't look like you've read what people pointed for you to read. Hopefully this'll help you get over the jargon hump and make progress. Having upgraded from the Offical T-Moble rom and swapped ROMs, it's definitely worth taking the time to learn how to do.
SIM unlock & CID unlock aren't the same.
If you've had you phone with T-Mobile for at least 3 month they will let Unlock you SIM (at least they do in the US). Contact them directly, you'll need an active account & phone number with them. This is free.
CID unlocking allows flashing ROMs onto your PDA. For some reason the folks at T-mobile, etc want you to have to look at their stuff every time you use a machine you bought through them. Using a cooked rom is like reinstalling XP without having AOL on your computer, makes life much better.
(flashing = installing to a PDA's Read Only Memory)
(ROM = OS + Radio + other stuff = basically everything thats on the PDA after a hard reset)
Flashing can be a dangerous thing, you don't want to 'brick' your PDA so you install an escape hatch. Hard SPL is that escape hatch.
(Brick = peice of baked clay = your PDA if a ROM install fails and you didn't install Hard SPL first)
The Hard SPL protects you if the ROM you installs fails 'cause power went out, ROM was bad, you bumped the cable, etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Read & Follow the directions.
Select a ROM from here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
I have the same model & just installed Custel V2.5, seems to work well so far (day 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364617
Good Luck
Thanks gt, and we have read advice on here but a lot of seems to be conflicting plus we seem to be just going round and round. Yep, ben there, yep read that etc.
I know the diff. between SIM and CID unlock but all I want to know is is it necessary to SIM unlock the phone to update a ROM?
I wont be using another network but will be staying with T-mobile W n W.
I did it!
Well I did it. flashed the phone with Schaps WM6 4.30 WWE.
Have noticed it runs faster than the previous T-Mobile WM6 and has some really neat features-you can adjust a lot more settings on the phone than before,quite impresed! Thanks for everyones help!
Hi,
i must sent my hermes to repairs. so i have to restore it to wm5 and old bootloader.
i have some problems with the gsm module. sometimes i get "no gsm" in the bootscreen and after boot no phone functions. Some time i the radio shows up in boot and i get phone functions. the problem did not appear after a flash. the last flash a month ago.
it seems that the hardware that there is a loose connection. when i make a test call and knock the phone (softly) the phone connection is lost. the "end call" button does nothing and after a while the whole os freezes.
has someone another idea than faulty hardware?
OS is restored to original with the help of mrvranx guide.
whats left is the bootloader and the shipped radio rom.
Bootloader screen shows:
Herm 300
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10Olipro
Radio Rom is 1.47.30.10
Im a little concerned about mrvranx warning: "If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error"
but on the next page is a guide to flash the bootloader back step by step to the original. is this method save? and does anybody know which one was the shipped one (t-mobile germany).
last the radio. i can't remember which was the shipped version.
and can i flash whithout problems back to the original? somewhere i read about problems because of the bootloader.
and the last question
in what order must i do this. first radio then the bootloader is right?
many thanks in advance.
washi
just today I had to get my old TYTN ready for warranty/repair.
I followed mrvranx's guide to downgrade my bootloader and it worked flawlessly. I did it all from an XP computer as I was having issue on my Vista machine. Follow it to a T and you should not encounter trouble.
As for the order, I don't think it matters. I did my radio last if you just wanna follow my lead.
As for determining the radio and boot loader version - I'm with Rogers in Canada, they send me my replacement device before I send them the faulty one. I just go into bootloader mode (power on the right side+ok on the left side+reset button at the bottom) and verify the version.
just checked my radio bootloader version. its 108.
so i wont be able to flash a radio < 1.3x?
which is unfortunate because the t-mobile germany never actually offered an official update :/
i just hope the handy will pass with the old os and old bootloader but newer radio.
Is this really needed?
I have to send my phone in as well and didn't know if it was really necessary to do all the downgrading and stuff? i guess can't hurt to be safe though huh
Hey Guys,
I am in the same boat as you all, I am with Rogers and unfortunately MRVANX guide is not online at present, can any one help. Also if you can tell me if it is at all possible, my IPL is 1.04, SPL is 2.10.OLIPRO and Radio version is 1.54.07.00 I am using FARIA.32 ROM
please help.
Thanks
Himanshu
Okay.. I got a brand new touch dual last week, and off course, it seems to be sim locked.. It IS nice and shiny though. A silver version actually..!
Anyways, I did try the SuperSID and security unlocker.. But i'm kinda stuck at one of the first steps in the manual.. Checking your original radio version and downloading it.. It seems my Niki has radio version 1.58.21.24.. And that isn't available for download.. Anywhere.. :')
So.. I've got this phone on my desk, which i can look at, but can't use.. All brand new, nice and shiny..
I've been searching the forum to see if there's any way to dump my original radio, biut i guess to achieve that, the phone needs to be unlocked on forehand, right..? Any suggestions on how to go about this?
You can try with another radio, like the 1.58.21.23S, but first of all, be sure that you have a NIKI100, not a Neon or similar.
Well, the battery says NIKI160. But fortunately for me, underneath the battery on the phone itself, it says NIKI100.
So, according to the Niki SuperCID thread i can just skip installing original radio (step 8) and flash v. 23s..? Without consequences..?
Hi xxxneoxxx!
I know it's a while ago you were wondering if you could use the .23 radio.. But I'm still curious if you have tried it! And if you did, how does the dual perform?
Thanks!
I had to do that either, one of the two niki100 had a 1.64 radio, and when doing "step 1", it always crashed at 99%. So whay I did was first downgrade the radio to a 1.56, then run step 1, and finally flash back to another radio (random one), it worked perfectly...
Just remember to use spl 1.15 or the unlocker won't give you results...
Duplicated post, sorry...
Hi biktor_gj!
I've already installed spl 1.15. So that's one step in the right direction =)
But how is it possible you can use different types of radio's without any problems? Because several threads warn you for the damage a wrong radio can cause...
Well, after a while of reading up, i kinda gave up on it.. Found all kinds of info, none mentioning this radio version.
So i figured; i saved over 150 euros buying it locked, why not pay something to get it unlocked in return. I mean, unlocking isn't that expensive after all.
One of the infos i found was actually that over here in the Netherlands, unlocking your phone using an unlock code doesn't void your warranty, but using software to do it, does. So this was an extra reason find an alternative way. Eventuelly bought an unlock code. Went over to www.htccode.com and bought an unlocking code over there. Works like a charm.
I know, it might be the easy way to out, and if my radio version was mentioned in the unlocking thread i would have been more sure of the fact it WAS actually going to work properly, without the battery draining and stuff, but it wasn't mentioned, so i figured i was better off playing safe on this one..
Hi. I have a G4 (ipl 2.25.0001, spl 2.25.0001) Wizard 8125. I tried to flash to a wm6.5 rom and i know i did something wrong. Everytime i try flashing a new rom it goes all the way to 100 percent and then once it reboots it just goes back to the bootloader screen and stays there. I had activesync off just like the threads say to do and still nothing. Its SIM unlocked since im using an ATT sim card instead of cingular (now att). I would either like the original rom back on this or atleast a wm6 rom somehow. I do have a radio rom upgrade too. Any help would be appreciated.
CID unlocked?
What rom are you using?
I don't think that changing your sim from Cingular to AT&T needed an unlock.
You may need to look at this:
forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52404&d=1190997171
Its a direct link to mUn's RUU. this worked for my CID locked phone.
Also, take a look at this page and go down to "G4 Only" it should answer many of your questions.
wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard%20Windows%20Mobile%206%20for%20newbies
i was trying to use a WM6.5.3. My phone wasnt bricked! I found the original cingular 8125 rom and fixed my phone. I did however after i fixed the rom issue i did CID unlock my phone with no problems. Also SIM unlocked it too to be safe. Yes you were right it didnt need a unlock to use an AT&T SIM on it either. But now im trying to get the original rom back on. I use the Iphone Killer WM6.5.3 Rom on this site and now i cant downgrade back to my original. The reason i want to downgrade is that the phone is severly slow with wm6.5.3 on it. Id rather just go to wm6 or wm5 again and stick with that.
double check
Are you getting the 3 clor screen?
Just plug the device into your computer and run mUn's RUU. It should update even though active sync doesn't show it as connected.
If you can't get mUn's RUU to work, plug the phone into your computer and load the wizard love rom or any 'CID safe' ROM. These ROMs are reccomended before running mUn's RUU.