Hello all,
I got a friend of mine who came to me with a device-password locked Hermes, which password he cannot recall (actually his girlfriend...). I said I would be willing to give him a hand to unbrick the device. The problem is that I cannot install any ROM on the device, coz I got an error connection right after the screen goes white and the percentage count should normally start.
So I put the Herm in Bootloader (spl-1.06) and try to flash the OliPro Bootloader. The procedure goes correctly until the step where the upgrade itself should begin, counting from 0%... here, I got:
ERROR [262]: Update error: communication error.
I also tried to flash a ROM directly, but since my Bootloader is 1.06, I didn't find a CID match ROM, so it also failed. The Herm is now not bricked, but it stays at the password input screen, so cannot enter windows properly.
Any help on this?
Thanks,
Ionutz
Interesting since you are trying to go around something HTC probably did not want for people to go around due to security....
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Interesting since you are trying to go around something HTC probably did not want for people to go around due to security....
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yes, i grih you,and normally i wouldnt even try to do such thing, if it hadnt been for a friend of mine which i know.
besides i would like to learn more stuff about my Herm and this is one thing I havent seen discussed here, although i keep reading xda forums for such info.
just found the solution: i flashed another ROM with same CID since my BL was 1.06, but with BL 1.04. After that, I managed to flash any other ROM and automatically upgrade the SPL to 1.10 or 2.10 Oli accordingly.
If any of you interested and dont get the short explanation, PM me.
cheers,
Io, owner of 2 kicking TyTn's
BL 1.06 didnt allow devices with a different CID to be flashed,
eg: my TyTN had the CID: QTEK001 so i couldnt flash a ROM destined for a device with CID: VODAP001
But BL 1.04 had a bug where you COULD flash any ROM to the device regardless of the CID, the first attempt shows a vendor ID error, then try again and it will flash no problem.
The simplest way I would have got past the device security problem would have been a hard reset.
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BL 1.06 didnt allow devices with a different CID to be flashed,
eg: my TyTN had the CID: QTEK001 so i couldnt flash a ROM destined for a device with CID: VODAP001
But BL 1.04 had a bug where you COULD flash any ROM to the device regardless of the CID, the first attempt shows a vendor ID error, then try again and it will flash no problem.
The simplest way I would have got past the device security problem would have been a hard reset.
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I know the details about BL 1.04 vs 1.06, thats why I flashed a BL 1.04 ROM, but with the same CID QTEK_001, or smth.
I have to admit though that I never ever thought about doing a simple hard-reset. I guess it would have been to easy, I jumped to more complicate scenarios. Thanks for the help anyway, i gotta learn that.
Thanks mrvanx, glad I read down the whole thread to the part about a simple hard reset working. I lent my 8525 to a friend, thinking he might be interested in buying it, then he didn't have the money, and after I listed it on ebay today, I charged it up to flash to ATT stock, found it password locked, called my friend a few times just getting his voicemail, so tried flashing, and it said the Hermes wasn't connected to the PC...
I figured there would be a solution here at XDA..and POOF, like magic here it is!
So yes, all I had to do was a hard reset, tested and it works, and it was simple, so thanks again mrvanx, although this thread is very old, glad I found it LOL!
Appologize for posting the thread twice... I wasn't sure if this goes to the Hermes or the Herald forum...
Hello All,
I recently got an ATT 8525 and I'm trying to use it with my T-Mobile (US) SIM. I was able to successfully unlock the SIM and CID with an util/rom I found on this site (I think the post was from Pof). And I also re-flashed the phone with the latest ROM available.
But after about 5-10mins of usage the signal dies and when I reboot it says No GSM. Looks like the Radio ROM gets corrupted. I tried just re-flashing the Radio ROM and that doesn't help either. It works for short while and again the signal dies.
And also, I'm unable to install any of the generic ROMs (Fantastic Mobiz, PVET 40005) Although I'm connected to Active Sync when I run the Step 1 (ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G3.exe), I get a ERROR [222] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING. And when I run the step 2 directly (update_rom.bat) I get an cannot update itsutils.dll maybe in use error.
As you can tell I've been messing with phone a lot for a couple of days with no luck and my frustration level is kinda high
As of now here’s where I stand. I re-flashed the phone (Image: 3.62, Radio 1.50) and it’s on the “Tap the screen to set up your windows based mobile device” screen. I plan on leaving it on this screen until I can a good solution.
I would like to get rid of the ATT ROM and install one of those hybrid generic ROM that is not Carrier specific. Any help will be much appreciated. Share your ideas, I’m very experimental
Phone Details…
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 1.40.0 lipro
ok ur going all over the map here.. did u hardspl first? also pvet 40005 isnt a hermes rom.. um try hardspl first THEN flash to a new rom maybe once you successfully do that then try a new 3.62 rom.. i run austinsync buts its naked..just like i like my women. ha. but if ur looking for a full blown try fun_key's rom or blinkys.. these arent carrier dependent
hey man jakeypoo, Thanks for your reply. I kinda figured that I was all over the map.
Okay first appologize my ignorance. What is a HardSPL? I did a search on this forum and I found Hard-SPL-V7.zip. Is this a good version to use? Also when I run the exe, All options are grayed out except for "Force Using SSPL" and "Is it Hard-SPL". What do I select.
Thanks!
Hardspl v7 is the latest version out there, its the one for you to use so that you're safe from future mishaps.
I also have an 8525 on T-mobile... so no worries.
Hope this helps.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardSPL
still problems (no gsm)
Thanks whistler4ever. That link was really a great help.
Here's what I did...
1. Installed the Hard SPL version 6
2. Installed the latest ATT ROM (ver 3.62 radio: 1.54) I had to do this because the radio on the phone was corrupt (says "no GSM" on the start screen) and couldn't install just the radio rom. kept giving connection errors.
3. Installed Schap's WM6 Pro 3.57 hoping this would get ride of the ATT ROM and my intial problem (no GSM) will go away.
Everything was fine for like 15 mins, then my phone just froze. I reboot the phone and sure enough the radio ROM was gone (no gsm). ;(
Running out of ideas.
1. Could this problem be because I'm using a TMobile SIM on a ATT's radio ROM?
2. Is the radio ROM specific to the phone type and provider(ATT, TMO..)? Is there a generic WM 6 radio rom? If yes, where can I find the latest version?
3. Any bright ideas?
Thanks again!
Current phone details...
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.10
ROM 3.62
Radio: no gsm
I was able to flash just the radio ROM - version 1.51. But again after a few hours the Radio got currupted. I also tried to follow the instruction ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5 ) to use the mtty.exe utility, but I don't get a USB prompt. I get Cmd prompt and if I still enter the password, it says invalid password. please help!!!
And how do I do the USB monitor capture? I could post more details that way. I'm using my girl friend's old razr now and it's painful!
I have used my t-mobile sim on AT&T rom's and other roms with no problem. I would try going back to a factory rom and then changing back to a cooked rom just to confirm its all a clean install. also, try downgrading your radio to a 1.47 or 1.48 (those have been proved pretty reliable across many cell providers).
Thanks Whistler. I'm going to start with the 1.48 version and if that doesn't work I'll try the 1.47 version. Not giving up on this.
I found 1.47 to work very well with t-mobile even when traveling...
Thanks Galaxys. I just installed the 1.47 radio. I have fully signal and the 'E', but I can't receive or make calls.
It almost looks like my TMO SIM is not compatible with the 8525. It always works for the first few minutes after an install and then stops working.
I'm very certain the phone is in good condition.
Should I try an older radio version.. like a 1.24 or something ?
Can I install just the tmobile radio rom?
I'm also going to install TNT 2.0 pro so I have the exact same set up as you and see if that makes a difference.
no luck!!!
wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
try the way i posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337125
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wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
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Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
Try to flash the entire UK T-Mobile ROM, then remove the internet settings and install the correct CAB for T-Mobile.
UK ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337163
PROVIDER SETTINGS CAB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311446
a-h-t1, Junner2003 and galaxys - I'll try all your suggestions.
a-h-t1 - The first 2 steps went through fine. While I install the radio ROM as part of step 3, the installation doesn't go past 0%
I'm going try Junner2003 idea now. I'll keep everyone posted on my progress.
install stops at 11%
Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
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Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
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Hi Galaxys,
I don't think the IMEI is blocked. Or maybe it is, how do I find out? I don't have any of the symptons listed on the link you sent (don't hear the beeps or anything).
I originally had a T-Mobile wing. The LCD screen cracked (don't know how). And ofcourse TMo won't replace it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335346
I got 8525 from my company. It's almost new. Only used for a day on an AT&T SIM. This phone is free, and so I really don't have much to lose... so all out experimenting
Tried insalling from the micro card, even that stops while installing GSM. pissed!!! Why would the darn Radio not update???
this may sound stupid but if all else fails, why not...
my mda use to have signal then it would just disappear as well after 15 min or less..
turns out the sim card wasnt pressed in properly.. so i just put a piece of paper on top of the sim card to make it thicker and get the battery to press it down harder. and it solved all my problems...
just a suggestion..good luck
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Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
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See this post here for a possible reason (and technical explanation/theory) for your device stalling during radio update. The fix suggestions at the bottom of the page may help you - in particular :
Try cooling the device down a bit before flashing as the PIC chip (where your radio ROM is held) may flash more reliably/easier when cool. Don't ask why - that's from it's datasheet ;-)
The paper on the SIM card is a good idea too to rule out dodgy SIM connection - Great idea r0mmel
Ok well I had a unlocked 8125 and I stumbled across a new 8525 for 150, so I picked that up... Now I should be getting it tomorrow and my question is this...
I'm assuming I fall under the post April category(being brand new) with the difficult SIM unlocking procedure... Now I'm not really in to switching around my carrier, I have AT&T its a AT&T branded phone and I'm fine with that... the only thing I really care about is being able to flash different OS roms and whatnot.
So do I just run the auto unlocker and only select CID unlock??
I've been trying to read and find out if the auto unlocker CID option will still work for post April units but I haven't been able to find the response yet.
Or am I totally in left field on this??? Do I need both CID and SIM unlocked to do OS rom flashes??
I acquired the 8125 already unlocked and those tend to be easier to do stuff to than these, or I'm just not reading the right thread.
Any info is appreciated.
I will not be turning the unit on till I hear a response from you guys. Worse case I just wont let the customization complete.
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Ok well I had a unlocked 8125 and I stumbled across a new 8525 for 150, so I picked that up... Now I should be getting it tomorrow and my question is this...
I'm assuming I fall under the post April category(being brand new) with the difficult SIM unlocking procedure... Now I'm not really in to switching around my carrier, I have AT&T its a AT&T branded phone and I'm fine with that... the only thing I really care about is being able to flash different OS roms and whatnot.
So do I just run the auto unlocker and only select CID unlock??
I've been trying to read and find out if the auto unlocker CID option will still work for post April units but I haven't been able to find the response yet.
Or am I totally in left field on this??? Do I need both CID and SIM unlocked to do OS rom flashes??
I acquired the 8125 already unlocked and those tend to be easier to do stuff to than these, or I'm just not reading the right thread.
Any info is appreciated.
I will not be turning the unit on till I hear a response from you guys. Worse case I just wont let the customization complete.
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You only need to do CID for that purpose. You are correct. Of course, doing SIM won't hurt you, but you only NEED CID.
Ok so when I get this phone... turn it on, do touch screen thing, do other crap, and CANCEL the customization with a soft reboot??? and then I can sim unlock it?
What sim unlocker do I use and whats the best radio for my location? Phone will actually be delivered today so this is why I'm asking.
Wait I think I got it... Turn on phone... Reboot before customization...
Run AUTO_Unlock_v3a once connected, after 1.16 radio installed then run Herm_Unlock_v3.exe to unlock it and once that is done run SoftBank_1.33.761.4_Extrom to remove the bootloader update.exe and then I can hard reboot without problems...
That sound right? This is following POF's thread on how to unlock these... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301952
I just run olipro 2.10 hardspl v7 and then I can flash any rom and radio I wish.
Yes but mine is a post April release phone which aparently has a radio bootloader update to 0182 which then makes the Radio rom un updatable, or impossible to unlock the sim.
Unless I dont need the Sim unlocked to do radio updates... but the more I read leads me to believe I wont be able to update the radio if I let the 0182 radio bootloader update run.
OR unless I'm completely retarded and this doesnt apply to the AT&T 8525.... I cant really find that on here.
Either way I'M LOST!
Yeah I think I'm retarded and read too far into this... I don't think the AT&T 8525's have this Radio Bootloader update thingy thats coming on the SoftBank phones...
Well all is good... fired the phone up, used it for all of 20 min before I used the auto unlocker on it unlocked CID and SIM, and then flashed it with VP3G WM6 rom, and the newest 1.54 radio... all is good so far.
Ok, I think I'm still at 1.04 IPL and 1.40 SPL, Olipro, is it worth it for me to install the Hard SPL v7 update??
IPL and SPL stuff on these phones are slightly more confusing than on the older 8125's
Also how do you get to the 3 color boot loader screen manually?
I did a HTC WM6 flash, wasnt very impressed and went back to the vp3G setup... Also is the 1.54.07 radio any good... the HTC rom put me down to 1.48 and since the 1.54 takes 20 min to upload I may leave it as is right now.
BerettaFreak said:
Ok, I think I'm still at 1.04 IPL and 1.40 SPL, Olipro, is it worth it for me to install the Hard SPL v7 update??
IPL and SPL stuff on these phones are slightly more confusing than on the older 8125's
Also how do you get to the 3 color boot loader screen manually?
I did a HTC WM6 flash, wasnt very impressed and went back to the vp3G setup... Also is the 1.54.07 radio any good... the HTC rom put me down to 1.48 and since the 1.54 takes 20 min to upload I may leave it as is right now.
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I would update to the latest HardSPLv7. Oli makes it better every time - more protection.
1.54 is an AT&T release, so it is probably better than 1.48. I think 1.50 was also an AT&T release, but you can use it and see if it works. The biggest difference usually seems to be battery.
Regarding putting into bootloader screen, I don't have my phone on front of me, but I am sure it is in the wiki. It is a right side button, a left side button and the press the reset hole on the bottom. I think it is the bottom side buttons - OK, PTT and the reset hole. (I think)
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda(Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Alex- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex!))
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
Attached Images
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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HTC ADVANTAGE X7501 AT&T TILT 8925 VERIZON XV6700
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HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
SORRY FOR LONG POST, JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE...
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Hi
You could try Hard Reset BY Volume down+Stylus reset. if it turns on and load OS then you can use the unlocker again without Sim and Memory card(but your pc must have netframe work 2.0 installed and updated). If your device failed to load OS then you have to find the original rom for your device (which you can download from this website "use the search function") then unlock your device with olipro's latest unlocker.
Good luck
I got this once when I tried to flash from the memory card.
Remove both memory and sim card and battery for 10 mins.
make sure you are disconnected from the puter.
put battery in and hold the camerabutton all the way in and press the reset pin and hopefully you will enter the bootloader proper.
Which version of olipros unlocker did you use
Try to use the last version as it is less prone to trouble and works better on x7501
see this post as well(though not exactly your problem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374734
I would also recommend flashing from an xppro machine with the latest activesync
just reinforcing above post as well
I had a similar problem which I outlined here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368312
Notice the screenshots about a third of the way down.
Does your Advantage bootscreen look like this?
-Alex-
try inserting an SD card and boot to this strange bootloader screen
does it say Loading (then No image found)?
also, i assume you mean the PC does not see the device either?
what athena version have you all got? x7501? brand new? maybe HTC changed something about them...
Still No Luck!!! Any More Advice? It Would Be Appreciated...
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
if it can't load an image from SD and PC (with XP) can't see the device, then it needs to be sent back, if possible under warranty
bad choice
hay there first time some thing like that happen to me i was stuck for hours but then i got into boot loader in flashed the pk 3.0 and it worked so if u can see the olipro 1.20 thing then its all good and if u cant then mabee ur f***d that type of error u got its supose to cum near the end
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME OR EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
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Sorry that you are having the same problems that I did. Unfortunately, I can't bring you much comfort as I tried everything that I could find or was suggested. I searched every post and put out multiple cross-postings (that is a real sign of desperation for me!). Ultimately I had to get a new unit from Amazon as I could NOT get it back from the land of rainbow death that you see in the pics. I am no expert with the Athena/Advantage but I am also pretty experienced with computers and rarely ever get myself into a no-win like this. It takes alot for me to give up and declare a piece of equipment beyond my ability to fix, but this was one of those times.
I think that I traced the eventual cause to one (or a combination) of the following:
- Leaving the SIM and the Mini SD in the unit during the flash process
- Some glitch when using vista with the bootloader
- Using an older version of the OliPro unlocker (very likely the cause)
- Somehow panicing during the unlock and interupting the upgrade. You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
I repeated the unlock with replacement unit being careful to use the latest bulletproof unlock and had no problems. But the original unit did have to go back.
I sincerely hope that you have better luck! Tell me how it turns out! If there is any other info you think you might be able to use from my experience, please ask away!
-Alex-
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You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
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I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, it's got nothing to do with the radio version
it's another area where simunlock info is stored
bairda said:
I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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well it can't do much harm, of course less flashing means less risk, and step 2 and step 3 both flash a radio.
as a newbie i'd imagine it's easier to just do step 1 because step 2 can cause corruption to the OS so it needs to be reflashed and the black screen scares the newbies etc.
What I have noticed reading this board too is that sometimes the type of USB cables used matters. I do not know why, but this happened to me too. I failed at step #2 and couldn't figure it our why. To resolve this I changed everything. From computer to usb cables to fresh files, to restore old image and re-tried the process and it worked.
Also one thing I noticed is that the old unlocked is linked allot instead of the new unlocker which is almost bullet proof. Some folks did download the old unlocker and tried it on their x7501 and bricked their device....
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Problem Resolved!!! Please Read, Very Important Information!!!
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
THEQUARTZGUY said:
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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Hi there,
Thanks indeed for the important info. I haven't yet tried the unlocker. But to my understanding the link " -BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831"
points to the latest version of the unlocker. The file I have downloaded is dated in November 2007. This is not correct? And what does the wrapper mean?
Could you please explain? I bought my X7501 in the US, but live in Europe and such a mistake could be totally fatal!
Thanks for your feedback.
Regarding The "bad" Unlocker....
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
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Thanks Ryan!
I see. I know that the X7501 is sold unlocked in the US and therefore only the 1st step of flashing the SPL would make sense. That means that if run the athena wrapper, all will be OK for flashing radio, ROM etc. I that correct?
Two more questions, if you don't mind.
1.Did you need to install .NET to run the Athena wrapper?, or is it kind of pre-installed mostly?
2.What is your experience with the cooked ROMs? Running stable? Can you flash back the original ROM if required?
Thanks
Dod.
I ran the 'wrapper' this week, step 1 only, so I could upgrade the radio driver. I first ran the bad unlocker and got the 'black screen of death', but after reflashing a good ROM, then the good 'wraapper', then the latest radio all is well.