Downgrading to 1.16..Is that Safe? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

My hermes with latest radio rom 1.54.30 is unable to run my new network sim card ..But Hermes of my friend can run it..He has 1.16 radio rom..So is it safe for me to downgrade to 1.16 directly from 1.54.30?
I am running schaps 4.2 rom with hard spl v7...

hello?help is needed urgently..plz any body

absolutely not 1.54 has radiobootloader 108
1.16 should have an older version and the 108 doesn't allow to overwrite
him with an older version.
You'll get a brick.
try another radio 1.38 and up
bye J.

jarod_73 said:
absolutely not 1.54 has radiobootloader 108
1.16 should have an older version and the 108 doesn't allow to overwrite
him with an older version.
You'll get a brick.
try another radio 1.38 and up
bye J.
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ok got this one HERM_Radinly_1.38.00.01_CustomRUU_orange.zip
i think it is packed with custom ruu 4.3
now is it safe for me to flash this radio?

every radio which has radio bootloader 108 is safe..
read on wiki to exactly know it there you should find a table with
radios and related bootloader.
If I rememember well every 1.38 and up are all 108.
Bye J.

jarod_73 said:
every radio which has radio bootloader 108 is safe..
read on wiki to exactly know it there you should find a table with
radios and related bootloader.
If I rememember well every 1.38 and up are all 108.
Bye J.
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Can anybody help me get 1.16 radio rom on my herm300??i tried 1.47.30
but it keeps on searching for signals for almost an infinite time...I am very much confused as i dont know what is the problem with my hermes..

Have you checked the "Band" Setting in Start -> Settings -> Phone to make sure that is set to "Auto" "Auto"?

CRCinAU said:
Have you checked the "Band" Setting in Start -> Settings -> Phone to make sure that is set to "Auto" "Auto"?
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yes sir it is on auto ...but i dont have any 3g or wcdma in my country ..only gsm

Hrrrm... that seems kinda of strange... It may be that there is a fault in your unit - as if your GSM network uses any of the GSM bands listed on the phone, it should pick something up.
Has it worked before? Is there some kind of IMEI lock on your account?

CRCinAU said:
Hrrrm... that seems kinda of strange... It may be that there is a fault in your unit - as if your GSM network uses any of the GSM bands listed on the phone, it should pick something up.
Has it worked before? Is there some kind of IMEI lock on your account?
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Actually my unit easily reads a few simcards but not of my network...i dont know if my imei is blocked or what but it cant be blocked as there is nnot much technology here in pakistan and i havent stolen hermes as well....but my friend has radio 1.16 and my sim card works good on his hermes...

If your phone works fine with a sim card of a different network, then it is probably a network related issue and you might have to contact your phone company to fix it.

CRCinAU said:
If your phone works fine with a sim card of a different network, then it is probably a network related issue and you might have to contact your phone company to fix it.
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but if i leave it for a night my hermes is able to get the signals but when i place a call or two then the gsm part of the phone seems to be non responding ...i wanted to try out 1.16 once before i complain my operator

You might want to take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349461
It's possible that your radio ROM 1.54 has damaged the radio hardware in which case changing ROM is unlikely to make any difference.
Richard

Ree-shar said:
You might want to take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349461
It's possible that your radio ROM 1.54 has damaged the radio hardware in which case changing ROM is unlikely to make any difference.
Richard
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No i dont think so,had the same problem before upgrading to 1.54..just want to give 1.16 a last try..Anybody guide me how to degrade to such an old version of a radio rom

couldnt find it on the wiki as well....help

Anybody help?????????

max414 said:
Anybody help?????????
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Have you followed others advice here and tried flavours from 1.38 upwards (although at the moment I wouldn't recommend trying 1.54!)...
a) Try cleaning the SIM contacts in your phone with a little alcohol and some cotton wool buds (poor contact with the sim card can cause your phone to think it has "no signal" or "No SIM" - suffered that one myself once)
b) Try your friends SIM in your phone and see if it works (as you've already said your SIM works in his phone) - if his sim works in your phone - but yours continues not to work then you may have a blocked phone or SIM and will need to speak to your provider for advice (and to either have the sim unlocked or the phone unlocked etc)
c) Try a hard reset with no sim inserted (after backing up your data) and try the SIM again.
d) Radio updates rarely (if ever) fix SIM issues - Certainly a dodgy rollback to 1.16 is unlikely to fix anything.

ok trying 1.38.00.10. but it doesnt have option for 2.10 olipro..what should i select ?it says u should chose sspl?

The contact of the simcard with phone is perfect,as i can access my sim contacts as well as sim messages and the sim menu is there as well.
NO His sim doesn't work on my phone.
The only option is to degrade to 1.16 and see if that helps.So how should i continue with my quest?

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Network error for 3. bricked?

I can't seem to connect to my 3 network. In the strength meter on top, theres a ! sign. And there is no service for current network. When i try to find network manually, theres no 3 service.
Is my dopod 838pro bricked? It was working fine until it hanged and after i soft reseted it, it can't connect to the network anymore.
Is there any way i can fix it? I have just updated all the ROMS and Radio roms and am running wm6.
HERM100
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.0lipro
I upgraded my OS to wm6 using the link below as a guide
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
Please help. Thanks
Hmmm... have you read the Sticky thread on bricks? This sounds like a problem I have seen in there. Probably easy to fix - first try flashing back to where you started. Read through the sticky - it will help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755
How long ago did you flash? Did it never work after flashing or did it work for a day, a week...? Need more info. I assume you verified that the SIM isn't the problem?
yes i have read the brick thread and have tried flashing it again but it didn't seem to work. i've also re-did the radio ROM as well.
I flashed and upgraded to wm6 after the network problem and it still doesn't seem to work.
I don't think it's the sim problem as it works with my other phone SE k800i. But i'll try changing the sim card and get a new one on monday.
I'm leaving the option of sending it to Teleplan as a last resort as it is quite a hassle to send the dopod all the way to sydney when i'm situated in Perth.
Anyone know a service center for dopod in Perth?
dopod 838pro
i'm not sure but when i use my optus sim card, it seems to work. but not with my 3 sim card.
louiedafly said:
I can't seem to connect to my 3 network. In the strength meter on top, theres a ! sign. And there is no service for current network. When i try to find network manually, theres no 3 service.
Is my dopod 838pro bricked? It was working fine until it hanged and after i soft reseted it, it can't connect to the network anymore.
Is there any way i can fix it? I have just updated all the ROMS and Radio roms and am running wm6.
HERM100
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.0lipro
I upgraded my OS to wm6 using the link below as a guide
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
Please help. Thanks
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Try starting up your phone with no sim card and see what happens, I think have the same problem, I can't use any other radio than 1.16, and even that may have problems. If I use any other radio roms, I get no service, and if I take out my sim, it doesnt even realize that there is no sim, it says no service, and also the phone will freeze on the today screen with half the plugins loaded.
BTW what radio are you using?
I get the same error with my 3 sim and the .41 radio rom.

Bricked, I Think !!

I cannot access the phone part of my Hermes. I tried backing the radio back to 1.48 and nothing. I have recently upgraded the radio to 1.50. But like I said I tried to go back. Everything else works fine and boots fine. I tried doing the Unlock Sim and CID patch and then tried to flash the radio again and still nothing. I have an IMEI number. The funny thing is I can read the services for the phone ,"Call Barring", etc.. I get a letter up at the top for the band which is a "G" but my antenna has a exclamation mark beside it. Please help!!
It worked OK with 1.50?
Odd. Did the flash back to 1.48 complete successfully?
Did the SIM/CID unlock complete successfully?
If it were me, I would try reflashing the radio. Be sure you have HardSPL.
If that didn't work, I would hard reset and completely reflash the OS and Radio - but that should not be necessary.
soldier777 said:
I cannot access the phone part of my Hermes. I tried backing the radio back to 1.48 and nothing. I have recently upgraded the radio to 1.50. But like I said I tried to go back. Everything else works fine and boots fine. I tried doing the Unlock Sim and CID patch and then tried to flash the radio again and still nothing. I have an IMEI number. The funny thing is I can read the services for the phone ,"Call Barring", etc.. I get a letter up at the top for the band which is a "G" but my antenna has a exclamation mark beside it. Please help!!
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If the flash radio ROM alone will not work, Try doing a flash for an OS+Radio ROM together, there are a number of those available in the forum (the T-Mobile 3.60 is the latest).
soldier777 said:
I cannot access the phone part of my Hermes. I tried backing the radio back to 1.48 and nothing. I have recently upgraded the radio to 1.50. But like I said I tried to go back. Everything else works fine and boots fine. I tried doing the Unlock Sim and CID patch and then tried to flash the radio again and still nothing. I have an IMEI number. The funny thing is I can read the services for the phone ,"Call Barring", etc.. I get a letter up at the top for the band which is a "G" but my antenna has a exclamation mark beside it. Please help!!
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The following thread has saved my Hermes several times. I've bricked it more than once through trying to create my own bastard sons of other people's cooked ROMs.
What I do is I keep a copy of HERMIMG.nbh from the ORIGINAL ROM that came on my phone PERMANENTLY on my MicroSD card and fix it using this method every time I knacker the phone.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing
Apart from that there is a lot of help in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755 <- though you'll have to search through it pretty thoroughly to find the answer for your own situation as there are a lot of dead Hermes Qs on there with a wide variety of answers offered by helpful folk.
Hope it works out ok mate.

ATT 8525 with a T-Mobile SIM - Sorry!

Appologize for posting the thread twice... I wasn't sure if this goes to the Hermes or the Herald forum...
Hello All,
I recently got an ATT 8525 and I'm trying to use it with my T-Mobile (US) SIM. I was able to successfully unlock the SIM and CID with an util/rom I found on this site (I think the post was from Pof). And I also re-flashed the phone with the latest ROM available.
But after about 5-10mins of usage the signal dies and when I reboot it says No GSM. Looks like the Radio ROM gets corrupted. I tried just re-flashing the Radio ROM and that doesn't help either. It works for short while and again the signal dies.
And also, I'm unable to install any of the generic ROMs (Fantastic Mobiz, PVET 40005) Although I'm connected to Active Sync when I run the Step 1 (ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G3.exe), I get a ERROR [222] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING. And when I run the step 2 directly (update_rom.bat) I get an cannot update itsutils.dll maybe in use error.
As you can tell I've been messing with phone a lot for a couple of days with no luck and my frustration level is kinda high
As of now here’s where I stand. I re-flashed the phone (Image: 3.62, Radio 1.50) and it’s on the “Tap the screen to set up your windows based mobile device” screen. I plan on leaving it on this screen until I can a good solution.
I would like to get rid of the ATT ROM and install one of those hybrid generic ROM that is not Carrier specific. Any help will be much appreciated. Share your ideas, I’m very experimental 
Phone Details…
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 1.40.0 lipro
ok ur going all over the map here.. did u hardspl first? also pvet 40005 isnt a hermes rom.. um try hardspl first THEN flash to a new rom maybe once you successfully do that then try a new 3.62 rom.. i run austinsync buts its naked..just like i like my women. ha. but if ur looking for a full blown try fun_key's rom or blinkys.. these arent carrier dependent
hey man jakeypoo, Thanks for your reply. I kinda figured that I was all over the map.
Okay first appologize my ignorance. What is a HardSPL? I did a search on this forum and I found Hard-SPL-V7.zip. Is this a good version to use? Also when I run the exe, All options are grayed out except for "Force Using SSPL" and "Is it Hard-SPL". What do I select.
Thanks!
Hardspl v7 is the latest version out there, its the one for you to use so that you're safe from future mishaps.
I also have an 8525 on T-mobile... so no worries.
Hope this helps.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardSPL
still problems (no gsm)
Thanks whistler4ever. That link was really a great help.
Here's what I did...
1. Installed the Hard SPL version 6
2. Installed the latest ATT ROM (ver 3.62 radio: 1.54) I had to do this because the radio on the phone was corrupt (says "no GSM" on the start screen) and couldn't install just the radio rom. kept giving connection errors.
3. Installed Schap's WM6 Pro 3.57 hoping this would get ride of the ATT ROM and my intial problem (no GSM) will go away.
Everything was fine for like 15 mins, then my phone just froze. I reboot the phone and sure enough the radio ROM was gone (no gsm). ;(
Running out of ideas.
1. Could this problem be because I'm using a TMobile SIM on a ATT's radio ROM?
2. Is the radio ROM specific to the phone type and provider(ATT, TMO..)? Is there a generic WM 6 radio rom? If yes, where can I find the latest version?
3. Any bright ideas?
Thanks again!
Current phone details...
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.10
ROM 3.62
Radio: no gsm
I was able to flash just the radio ROM - version 1.51. But again after a few hours the Radio got currupted. I also tried to follow the instruction ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5 ) to use the mtty.exe utility, but I don't get a USB prompt. I get Cmd prompt and if I still enter the password, it says invalid password. please help!!!
And how do I do the USB monitor capture? I could post more details that way. I'm using my girl friend's old razr now and it's painful!
I have used my t-mobile sim on AT&T rom's and other roms with no problem. I would try going back to a factory rom and then changing back to a cooked rom just to confirm its all a clean install. also, try downgrading your radio to a 1.47 or 1.48 (those have been proved pretty reliable across many cell providers).
Thanks Whistler. I'm going to start with the 1.48 version and if that doesn't work I'll try the 1.47 version. Not giving up on this.
I found 1.47 to work very well with t-mobile even when traveling...
Thanks Galaxys. I just installed the 1.47 radio. I have fully signal and the 'E', but I can't receive or make calls.
It almost looks like my TMO SIM is not compatible with the 8525. It always works for the first few minutes after an install and then stops working.
I'm very certain the phone is in good condition.
Should I try an older radio version.. like a 1.24 or something ?
Can I install just the tmobile radio rom?
I'm also going to install TNT 2.0 pro so I have the exact same set up as you and see if that makes a difference.
no luck!!!
wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
try the way i posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337125
ajjus said:
wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
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Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
Try to flash the entire UK T-Mobile ROM, then remove the internet settings and install the correct CAB for T-Mobile.
UK ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337163
PROVIDER SETTINGS CAB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311446
a-h-t1, Junner2003 and galaxys - I'll try all your suggestions.
a-h-t1 - The first 2 steps went through fine. While I install the radio ROM as part of step 3, the installation doesn't go past 0%
I'm going try Junner2003 idea now. I'll keep everyone posted on my progress.
install stops at 11%
Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
galaxys said:
Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
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Hi Galaxys,
I don't think the IMEI is blocked. Or maybe it is, how do I find out? I don't have any of the symptons listed on the link you sent (don't hear the beeps or anything).
I originally had a T-Mobile wing. The LCD screen cracked (don't know how). And ofcourse TMo won't replace it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335346
I got 8525 from my company. It's almost new. Only used for a day on an AT&T SIM. This phone is free, and so I really don't have much to lose... so all out experimenting
Tried insalling from the micro card, even that stops while installing GSM. pissed!!! Why would the darn Radio not update???
this may sound stupid but if all else fails, why not...
my mda use to have signal then it would just disappear as well after 15 min or less..
turns out the sim card wasnt pressed in properly.. so i just put a piece of paper on top of the sim card to make it thicker and get the battery to press it down harder. and it solved all my problems...
just a suggestion..good luck
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Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
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See this post here for a possible reason (and technical explanation/theory) for your device stalling during radio update. The fix suggestions at the bottom of the page may help you - in particular :
Try cooling the device down a bit before flashing as the PIC chip (where your radio ROM is held) may flash more reliably/easier when cool. Don't ask why - that's from it's datasheet ;-)
The paper on the SIM card is a good idea too to rule out dodgy SIM connection - Great idea r0mmel

Cingular 8525 NO GSM problem. Help, PLS

Well,
recently I've bought 8525.
But I live outside US so i needed to unlock my device.
I've downloaded "HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a"
and have flashed my 8525 using an microSD card.
Everything went OK, then after flashing I've launched unlocker .exe. on my device and ulocked SIM and CID.
Then I've placed my SIM-card but it won't search for any network (It continues to search and search.
What should I do in this matter?
I'm running MS Vista, so I'd be glad if U suggest me to flash using an micriSD card.
Thanks.
Please help me to get out of this case.
Edit:
I've just flashed radio 1.54.30.10 using SPL 1.40 Olipro, IPL 1.1
with no luck at all.
Help me somebody.
Still searchs and searchs network, but doesn't register on network.
Same problem (NO GSM) I'm Vietnam !
I Have same problem ! now i flashed SPL-2.10.olipro and try again with Unlock v3.exe but not progress !And i check my phone at Device Infor i cannot see IMEI (IMEI: [Emty])
AT&T 8525
I have same problem no radio no gsm no imei, try everything still same result. Can anybody help.
ONLY thing to try is to either install ORIGINAL SHIPPED STOCK ROM or the ORIGINAL SHIPPED RADIO ROM. Doing anything else may permanently brick your device. This is not guaranteed to work as the radio rom is a cantankerous SOB and seems to be the achilles heel of the Hermes. In laymen's terms, radio dead, not recoverable in most cases...
Good luck...
I'm not saying its impossible but then I believe if you jump off a cliff and try REALLY hard you might actually miss the ground...

Since flashing several Roms, Radios etc. massive interferences

Hi,
im currently running the following setup:
phoenix 2.51
radio 1.71
hard spl 1.22
with o2 as service provider in germany.
since some flashing and testing i discovered that after a few seconds of speaking i get massive interferences in the call. my calling partner cant understand me, but i can hear him.
i already flashed back to 6.1 wwe official rom but the error still persists.
does anybody have ideas which could help me?
RsRichard said:
Hi,
im currently running the following setup:
phoenix 2.51
radio 1.71
hard spl 1.22
with o2 as service provider in germany.
since some flashing and testing i discovered that after a few seconds of speaking i get massive interferences in the call. my calling partner cant understand me, but i can hear him.
i already flashed back to 6.1 wwe official rom but the error still persists.
does anybody have ideas which could help me?
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Try a different radio, eg 1.65.28.25. Works very well, and low power consumption to boot.
use other radio rom
I had the same problem.
Many noises, people on the other side couldn't hear me as well as dropping line.
I also tried different combination in spl/rom/radio (also restoring original spl/rom/radio).
I solved by sending phone to service reparing (warranty).
I don't know exactly what they did since ther was no physical repair but they said they only upgraded something (which sounds strange to me since ther's no official upgrade for my country from HTC) but now it works fine.
shinji_73 said:
I solved by sending phone to service reparing (warranty).
I don't know exactly what they did since ther was no physical repair but they said they only upgraded something (which sounds strange to me since ther's no official upgrade for my country from HTC) but now it works fine.
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So, what's the build number of ROM and also radio number? If it is one not on the board, any chance of dumping the ROM and posting it?
i tried with 1.5xx roms, 1.65.28.25 etc. and still have the problem.....
rling said:
So, what's the build number of ROM and also radio number? If it is one not on the board, any chance of dumping the ROM and posting it?
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Rom version: 1.31.408.09
Date rom: 10/30/07
Radio version: 1.58.16.27
Protocol version: 25.61.30.03W
It seems to be the "standard" configuration...
But now on the splash screen there's no more "Niki pro" trace...D 1.31 as it used to be.
ok... i again tried several configurations and also flashed the complete original rom. the error still is there what can i do now? is there any possibility to format the whole phone except the bootloader?
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllppppppppppp
RsRichard said:
ok... i again tried several configurations and also flashed the complete original rom. the error still is there what can i do now? is there any possibility to format the whole phone except the bootloader?
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The radio, SPL and ROM cover the entire phone's OS. The official HTC WWE release 2.09.405.1 has all three in it. Disable the Hardspl (if other than HardSPL 1.22) by flashing the sspl, then flash this ROM. This will return the phone to original state. You might need to do this if you need to send the phone back for warranty service.
I'm going to send my phone to service again because I got my problems back...because I definetly think I got some "hardware" problems...
If I shake my phone some metallic noises can be heard inside, did you try something similar?
any news on this topic? i still cant use my niki.... im still receiving massive intereferences when calling since my flashing orgy. how to put it back to a fully OEM state without any mods?
nothing? will i really have to send my phone to the service ..... please not, i damaged one of the guarantee seels (back of the phone, right to the camera) mit the pen once....
RsRichard said:
nothing? will i really have to send my phone to the service ..... please not, i damaged one of the guarantee seels (back of the phone, right to the camera) mit the pen once....
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it must be radio issue - please try to flash a complete rom+radio, flash from microSD this time, rename the nbh file to NIKEIMG.nbh, enter bootloader and flash.
*push* still not working

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