iMate JasJam -> WM6 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

Hi,
Hopefully someone can tell me the correct guide to upgrade my iMate JasJam from WM5 to WM6? I've read the guides, but there's so much choice I'm confused! I really don't want to brick my phone as I use it for business. I live in New Zealand so do I need to do anything else to get it working on the Vodafone NZ network?
Can someone tell me the guide I should use which will work?
iMate are useless and never released an official WM6 update.
I'm thinking of following this guide but using the Black Satin ROM. Any objections?

following that should be fine BUT first you need to sim/cid unlock your Phone and install hard SPL on it. this will make it easier to fix if something goes wrong. Both programs you need can be found at the top of the list on this part of the forum. PLEASE also read MR Vanx's guide to flashing your phone as it Will definately be beneficial. After Flashing the first 2 things onto your Hermes you can pick whatever rom you want. Black satin is an older rom but fairly stable. Good uck and happy flashing...

Ok, unlock then hard SPL first, got it.
What's newer and more stable than Black Satin then?

Pays, Schapps, these guys really know what they're doing, I personally like TNT se. Thats my preference. What you need to do is search the forum and find a rom you like. Each person likes different things and me telling you what I like may be completely different to what you want or need. Alot of roms come with 3rd party apps cooked in but if you want speed then go for a lite rom. I'm also trying out the 6.1 roms but there have been stability issues. My preference there is Faria-R32 Dr Puttingham WM6.1 HERMES ROM-CUSTOM+CLEAN. It seems to be stable for my purposes. Research and find what you like... Cheers

Sweet I'll check it out. Thanks mate.

Hmm bit confused now. Which do I run first? The unlocker or the Hard SPL?
Because in the 'HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlock - v3a' instructions iit says "New RUU will make sure HardSPL-1.40 is installed before flashing the radio". As far as I know I don't have any HardSPL on my device at the moment. So that must mean I need to run the HardSPL first? Then the unlocker?
Also as far as HardSPL goes, there is a v9 Hard-SPL-2.60 out. Should I use that or the 2.10 - Hard-SPL-V7??

hardspl first, the sim unlocker. for version, just go with v9.

Yeah did the HardSPL first, then the SIM unlocker. The SIM unlocker actually downgraded the HardSPL to 1.4.olipro so I had to run the HardSPL to bring it back up to the other level 2.60. Weird...
Anyway I'm up and running!
Radio version is now: 1.43.00.00
ROM: Schap's 4.30
The thing I was hoping to eliminate with WM6 was the slow time it takes to dial numbers on the phone. Whenever you dial a key there's like a 1/2sec delay before it appears on the screen. I'd like it to be instant. The delay makes me think the phone is slow and it's really annoying. Anyone know if it can be fixed?

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nooB question

I'm new here and sorry for the nooB-ish question, but I'm going to be picking up an 8525 in the next week or so, and have been reading the wiki, and many posts like a madman...
I'm intending to flash a WM06 to it when I get it (LVSW's Pro 06 most likely) and I just want to be sure I understand the procedure. I have been reading the wiki (for the past couple days) and finally have read myself into a corner, so thought I'd ask.
It is likely I'm going to get the phone from ebay or something, so I'm not too concerned about the carrier's warranty. Besides, any time I tried to warranty a phone through Cingular in the past has been a headache.
That said, the steps I think I need to take are as follows:
1) us pof's v3 SIM and CID unlocker. I plan on unlocking both SIM and CID. Currently I am on Cingular, but I'd like to do this step in case I'm not on Cingular, or end up travelling and go with a pay as you go type of plan while abroad. And the CID, well I know I'll be going to a non Cingular branded ROM.
2) (not sure about this part)- load hard SPL onto the phone... but if I'm CID unlocking it, do I still need to do this?
3) run the RUU and upgrade to the LVSW (WM6 Style) Custom ROM, with the 1.34 radio, 1.10Oli SPL, and HTC Boot 0108
4) do it again, but with the LVSW (Pro Style) 15/3/07, which will give me the OS only, in the Pro Style look I'm after
5) flash it to the newer 1.38 radio sans GPS
Two or three days ago, I wouldn't have even half understood what I just wrote. I'm hoping I got it... where I am having issues is with the myriad different "use this method to flash your phone and not brick it" things in the wiki. I'm not by any means new to phone flashing, but with like 8-9 phones in the last couple years, all of which I modded in some way or another, this is my first foray outside Motorola.
So, did I get it? Or am I well on the way to owning a neat doorstop?
Thanks for any constructive input you all might have.
Sounds fine to me. But, you don't need the SuperCID to flash non-cingular as long as you're using the custom RUU's and SSPL.
Definately flash hard-spl, (although, that is the same as 1.10.Oli), I'd still probably flash it before anything else just to make sure.
Also, I'd probably check out Oli's "Mount ExtRom without SuperCID" thread if you still want access to the extrom.. Basically, if you use this and skip pof's unlocker, you'll still have Cingular CID, but, all the benefits of SuperCID.
Only use pof's unlocker if you want the sim unlock.. WHICH Cingular will give to you by calling customer service and requesting it after telling them you are traveling to Europe, etc..
Up to you though...
If you're going to use pof's unlock etc and Hard SPL why flash the custom rom before the pro style one. Can't you just go straight to the second rom?
@LegolasTheElf- thanks! I'll look into those options.
@randomelements- yep, I could. I didn't realize that the Oli SPL was pushing Hard SPL to the phone... And, with upgrading the radio, I guess it really doesn't matter.... I was going to go with that LVSW custom rom for the upgraded radio... it made it on the list of things to do on Sat. Then, Sunday I was reading the 1.38 (Hermes) radio upgrade thread, and decided to throw that on the list too.
I'm going to change my mind.. Here's the process:
1. Pof's unlocker (if you want)
2. Install Oli's Hard-SPL
3. Install 1.38.00.10 radio
4. Install OS *only* LVSW pro
5. Install Oli's Mount ExtRom without supercid if you didn't already unlock with pof's unlocker.
That will mean only one radio flash (radio being the leading cause of bricks), a good chance of fixing it (Oli's BL), and the OS you want. ExtRom is ignored as the WM6 roms don't use it anyways...
I concur.
LegolasTheElf said:
I'm going to change my mind.. Here's the process:
1. Pof's unlocker (if you want)
2. Install Oli's Hard-SPL
3. Install 1.38.00.10 radio
4. Install OS *only* LVSW pro
5. Install Oli's Mount ExtRom without supercid if you didn't already unlock with pof's unlocker.
That will mean only one radio flash (radio being the leading cause of bricks), a good chance of fixing it (Oli's BL), and the OS you want. ExtRom is ignored as the WM6 roms don't use it anyways...
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Hey, great, thanks!
For some reason I didn't pick up on the Radio flash being the cause of the bricks... I just thought it was with the RUU and CID interferance.
over2land said:
Hey, great, thanks!
For some reason I didn't pick up on the Radio flash being the cause of the bricks... I just thought it was with the RUU and CID interferance.
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That's only half the cause. The other half is boneheads and ****wits (to use a coined term on here.. Thanks Oli!) that can't/don't read before they charge forward and install crap without any idea of what the hell they're doing.
[email protected] ****wits, I'll have to use that one.
Thanks again.

too much information gets confusing

hi all,
i've just bought a t-mobile vario 2
i;ve read the wiki & a few of the posts regarding upgrading
but to be honest it has so much information & sometimes the information is contradictory.. so it gets confusing
i've been using the uni for a year now
my point is
i want 2 upgrade my hermes 2 wm6
my boot screen says
herm300
IPL-1.01
SPL 1.40.Olipro
i can use a different/other sim card than t-mobile
how do i chek if my hermes is CID unlocked
and what radio i'm using & what's my bootloader number??
i try 2 read the splash screen after soft reset but the radio version goes away pretty fast
do i run POF's unlocker v3a? is it safe to run again, even if my phone is cid unlocked?
in order 2 upgrade 2 wm6
do i need to install olipros hard spl 2.10? and then run customruu?
this is what i mean by confusing?
i've upgraded my magician, uni & wizard
however they all had pretty easy/self explanatory directions?
i'm sorry for sounding like a noob, but its new territory....
thanx in advance
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
chrisjasper said:
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
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i dont live in the uK
so the tmobile plan is not the usp
i need to unlock the extende rom as i like 2 install most of my progs on the extended rom and also my ringtones as the sd card takes a cople of seconds b4 it kicks in..
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
todd_jg said:
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
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hi
i've managed 2 find out that my phones supercid
however i cant get mtty 2 work
i put the phone in bootloader
then i conect the phone via usb
when i rum mtty
it says usb port cannot open
i tried mtty 1.42 as well.....

G4 - Soft SPL and flash

Hi All
Been reading the forums for a while and feel ready to take the plunge and try a wm6 upgrade.
From what ive read i can use softspl to temp cid unlock long enough to flash my phone.
this leaves me with a few of questions i couldnt find answers to.
It says extrom is untouched, so does that mean if i flashed a wm6 rom on startup it would go and install all the tmobile auto customisation stuff like when i hard reset its current (original) wm5 rom.
also i have used lokiwiz to sim unlock which worked great. Will this need re-doing?
should i want to go back to stock wm5 rom, would i need to soft spl again then run the tmobile rom thats downloadable from their website?
and lastly.
What would people recommend for a standard ish rom. Need all the basics, ie phone and keyboard transcriber etc but there are so many roms im not sure which to go for. Are most g4 safe now?
any help would be great thanks..
Ben
yes, most of the ROM are G4 safe but to be safer use WST and check the nk.nbf to see what files are in it
also most of the chefs apply a different technique regarding customization that doesn't use extended rom. You see the same message and apps installing but it's not running from ext_rom. You can, however run the ext rom customizations by browsing it and run the autorun.exe file.
to go back to your stock ROM you don't need to run sSPL again because the CID you have is the same as the stock ROM and the bootloader accepts it just fine
check the TNT series by its right, you won't be disappointed.
cheers
thanks
do i need to flash the radio rom too? i hear people talk about these a lot, the one thats running on my phone now gives me good reception
funy said:
thanks
do i need to flash the radio rom too? i hear people talk about these a lot, the one thats running on my phone now gives me good reception
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Stick to the Radio Rom from original ROM.
This way you keep the optimal performance you are used to.
Most WM6 ROMs are without radio ROM anyways.
Best regards,
EquinoXe
PS.
Please don't forget to donate the CID key to Mestrini.
He is still working solving the datacrashes error.

Upgrading a M3100 to WM6

Just got my 1st PPC Phone Device so please bear with me.
Looking to upgrade my SPV M3100 to the official HTC WM6 ROM and from reading here I have gathered that I need to do the following
1. Unlock the phone (SIM and CID) using the V3a unlock program
2. Install Hard SPL V7 bootloader
3 Install official WM6 Rom.
Is there anything else to bear in mind, hope I haven't missed anything
Thanks
nokiauk said:
Just got my 1st PPC Phone Device so please bear with me.
Looking to upgrade my SPV M3100 to the official HTC WM6 ROM and from reading here I have gathered that I need to do the following
1. Unlock the phone (SIM and CID) using the V3a unlock program
2. Install Hard SPL V7 bootloader
3 Install official WM6 Rom.
Is there anything else to bear in mind, hope I haven't missed anything
Thanks
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Sounds good dude, One thing though - you don't have to unlock the CID/SIM unless you really want to - and unless you specifically need /want to I personally wouldn't perform that step.
Once HardSPL is on, you can flash any image using the modified RUU wrapper.
The only other things to bear in mind are really the obvious - Make sure you've backed up your odds n' sods and that you've read the upgrading FAQs in the wiki (I think you already have!) and have a quick skim through the Upgrade problems FAQs so you don't end up in a panic if something unexpected happens!
As far as I know you can't install any official '.exe' roms on a mobile running Hard SPL boot v7 although don't take my word for it. They also won't install I'm led to believe on any handset apart from the handset it was meant for.
Eg. Dopod Official rom .exe file will only install on the Dopod branded version of your phone.
I may be wrong but to install these official roms I thought an official rom had to be 're-wrapped' somehow.
I did exacty the same as you, and unlocking your phone is better for the fact that the sell on price will be more, plus you can also choose what provider you want to use it with yourself.
I have an Orange SPV M3100, which I bought on ebay to use with my 3 UK sim card, although I also went a step further and installed a non orange HTC branded housing.
BTW I'm running Schaps WM6 v4.31 it's EXCELLENT!
southeastblue said:
As far as I know you can't install any official '.exe' roms on a mobile running Hard SPL boot v7 although don't take my word for it. They also won't install I'm led to believe on any handset apart from the handset it was meant for.
Eg. Dopod Official rom .exe file will only install on the Dopod branded version of your phone.
I may be wrong but to install these official roms I thought an official rom had to be 're-wrapped' somehow.
I did exacty the same as you, and unlocking your phone is better for the fact that the sell on price will be more, plus you can also choose what provider you want to use it with yourself.
I have an Orange SPV M3100, which I bought on ebay to use with my 3 UK sim card, although I also went a step further and installed a non orange HTC branded housing.
BTW I'm running Schaps WM6 v4.31 it's EXCELLENT!
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OK, the retail .exes are only programmed to recognise the official SPL versions (ie not hardspl).....thats why we must flash the nbh file using customRUU (which is coded to recognise hardspl).
The CID is responsible for identifying the brand of the device used, that way only HTC ROMs can be flashed onto a HTC CID device and the same for dopod/tomobile etc...
Hardspl essentially reports that the device has SuperCID so that way ANY ROM can be flashed to the device. Basically there isnt much need to CID unlock the device any more, back in the days before HardSPL this is what was normally done but olipro has pretty much tidied that up now
The unlocker is still recommended so you can use any SIM card however, just to SIM unlock it.
I managed to reflash the orange WM5 software no problems despite having HardSPL V7 installed no errors at all

Need some help before i brick my Hermes

Hi,
i was trying to upgrade my Hermes to WM6 and i was doing it according to mrvnx guide. First i tried the WM6 guide. Ipl was 1.01 and SPL was 1.11. Evrything went fine up until the part where the actual ROM was supposed to be flashed. The update pocess started, and i went for a smoke somewhere at 2%. When i came back, there was a message saying image file was corrupted, and Hermes was up and running. So, my first instinct was that i missunderstood something and that that guide was for phones already having WM6, so i decided to do the WM5 guide. I flashed the SPL, skipped the radio upgrade (cause i didn't know whether to use that version or the later one) and skipped to the next page. And, low and behold, there it says "Firstly download the WM5 ROM you wish to upgrade to"
And now i'm stuck and i don't know what to do. Should i get some WM5 ROM and first upgrade to it and then to WM6? Or should i go straight for WM6 ROM? If so, do i just follow the WM5 guide only using WM6 ROM or do i just flash it by the WM6 guide?
The phone still works with no problems at all. The desired WM6 ROM is Pays Full. Is it really corupted (got it from the "download full" link in the first post here), or was it my mistake?
Sim unlock and cid unlock your device then - http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
Download your carriers Rom (wm5 or wm6 - o2,orange,at&t etc)
then flash that.
then HARDSPL your device - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then use modified updater to flash your device with the wm6/6.1 rom of your choice.. works fine for me.
2.10 bootloader with the "is it hardspl" checked and wa'la its updated
hope this helps.
Thanx for the answer. I doubt i'll find my carrier's rom, since i'm from Croatia, and i think it hasn't been posted here, and certainly hasn't been posted on my provider's site. I did make a backup before upgrading, and i have the three raw files made with itsutils. Will this do?
Also, could you please explain why i need to sim/cid unlock it? The device itself is not branded at all, i believe it's only locked to the provider's sim, and that's all. Does sim /cid unlocking cover that or is it about something else?
Thanx!
Sim unlocking = you can use other sims
CID unlocking = you can use other roms (maybe why your update is crashing)
HARDSPL = One less chance of bricking your device
as your device is still currently up and running im guessing you can do it all via that rom.
Ok, just so i don't missunderstand you, can i do what you suggested, but without flashing the carrier's rom?
you can, however you may encounter problems with wm6.1 in the future (hard resets etc)
OK to clear this thread up....
...make sure you have flashed HardSPL before continuing then...
...redownload the ROM it sounds like it has become corrupted whilst being downloaded so make sure you unzip the whole thing to a folder first then try it.
did everything like kingsizeriz told me, except i did it on the existing rom. uploaded the same rom i tried before and it worked like a charm. me and mates have been fiddling with it the whole evening and noticed no problems so far. Thanx for the help, much appreciated
Btw, one last question, is NK.EXE supposed to be 0 bytes?

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