Newbie here...
What is G4 exactly?
oops seemed i found the answer
4...g4 and g3 are diffrent versions of prophets do to the chip intalled inside... (in boot screen 0001 »g4 001»g3)
If it ends in a "1" it's a G4...
If IPL/SPL are something like 2.10.0001, then the device is G4, if it's 2.10, the device is a G3.
G3 devices have slightly more memory aswell.
The G3/G4 part of it is to do with what DOC module they have.
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Hi,
I have Qtek 9100 with IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.20.0001. When I switch on divice, it displeyed color screen and nothing more. I flash it whit many ROM's but IPL/SPL always is the same and did't work normal. How can I resolve the problem. Thanks!
Only with a JTAG device. It's a special device that can access the chips without the need for the phone to be working. But nobody knows which are the JTAG pins so no luck here.
The IPL 1.xx is meant for the G3 DOC chip Wizards and G4 all have IPL/SPL starting at 2.xx.xxxxx. Since IPL is the firt bootloader with information and addresses for SPL and since they don't match you'll never get out of that situation...
Thanks for reply. I have JTAC device and will try to find jtag pinouts for Wizard G4.
havy said:
Hi,
I have Qtek 9100 with IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.20.0001. When I switch on divice, it displeyed color screen and nothing more. I flash it whit many ROM's but IPL/SPL always is the same and did't work normal. How can I resolve the problem. Thanks!
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Try..
(1) put the phone in bootloader mode
(2) flash it with cingular 1.x radio (search for it)
you should get a normal device in the end
best of luck!
dont know how
kdskamal said:
Try..
(1) put the phone in bootloader mode
(2) flash it with cingular 1.x radio (search for it)
you should get a normal device in the end
best of luck!
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(1) OK
(2) DONT KNOW HOW!!
Please help, i never did this. how do i flash the phone if my comp does not recognise it (i can only enter the bootloader screen).
You should
1) Flash only IPL/SPL from g4 (f.e. 2.26.0001) to get your SPL/IPL the same with italian RUU 2.5.2
2) Flash ROM without IPL/SPL italian RUU 2.5.2
yesterday we bringed such device to live) try
how do you compare that with Atom
Hi,
I have got O2 Arom.
does anyone know whether my device is equivelent to G3 or G4?? or its completely diff technology that cannot be compared!!!
I know O2 Atom is by Quanta and it uses CPLD (Complex programmble Logic Design!! I hope i remember this right).
this can't be compared at all, totally different technology. there is a whole separate section for the atom. just go to the forum root page and look for the atom.
I found this forum area, I checked my XDA after reading the sticky and it's a G4, so what is G4? What does it mean to me or how will it benefit me?
Thanks, I'm quiet a phone newbie, so sorry for the obvious lack of anything G4 related.
G4 is DOC Version = Disk On Chip = like a HDD in your PC :->
NetrunnerAT said:
G4 is DOC Version = Disk On Chip = like a HDD in your PC :->
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So it's just the type of hard-disk, so different software is different depending if it's G3 or G4?
Software is the same, however the Bootstrapper and OS Loader (IPL and SPL) are completely different.
If your IPL have .0001 then it's a G4.
G4 Wizard cannot flash ROM that have IPL and SPL ROM inside, or your Wizard will become a brick.
Hey guys. This is probably my first post here. I've never needed to post anything since every answer is available everywhere in this forum. Still, right now I'm stuck and I've never read a post regarding someone having the same problem as mine. Anyways...
The unit's a T-Mobile MDA. I don't know whether this wizard is G3 or G4. And that's basically where I am stuck. All the guides stated it clearly that I should identify the wizard first before I go on to solutions. Can anyone identify whether this is G3 or G4?
IPL 2.26 (indicating that this is a G3?)
SPL 2.26.0001 (indicating that this is a G4?)
which is which? in all guides, all they stated in identify the wizard was like this:
IPL/SPL x.xx or something. never was it mentioned how to identify if it has a different IPL and SPL.
Would appreciate anyone opinion regarding this matter. I'll take the experts' words and not continue until I can identify this wizard.
?
That is weird. I have a G4 and a bunch of G3s and my number of digits have always matched between the IPL and SPL.
exactly. i don't own this wizard but what i've read in posts and guides so far never mentioned this kinda problem. So, is this device bricked already?
still stuck with this problem. anyone have any suggestion at all? is there any hope for this device?
i got a locked wiza200, i tried to unlock it using lokiwiz02b and Wizard Service tools. both said its unlocked, THATS OK, it happened to me before, so i need to downgrade it. i searched for a rom, but it didnt accept any of them. now its time to unlock its CID, and i used Wizard service tools. it said its a G4.
so I tried the SoftSPL but didnt work for me
now its time for the Hard one. i used the HardSPL G4 and got it unlocked.
well. Still cannot find any rom for it. untill i used the Love Wizard.
and Grrrrrrrrrreaaaaaaaaaaat Its working just fine.
BUT and big BUT
it doesnt accept any Arabic customized ROM.
it shows the letters as a big Boxes.
so what about a new rom?! yes I said.
search and try download and try. non of them accepted.
even MrClean couldnt be flashed.
well, and after all this long story.
i enter the bootloader mode manualy then using ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID
and the MrClean nk.nbf
i flashed it successfully.
and the wiza200 restarted successfuly
and booted successfully
and showed the mrclean splash
and bringed me the first run test pointer/copy/paste/set password etc..
and showed me the something will do something after 3 seconds
and start installing
HuHHHhhh. its going black, the screen went black.
click here click there. push every key take off the battery put it back again
power on power on PLEASE power on.
NO WAY
i just want to know, Why.
Do you think your battery may be completely flat?
the Battery Values are:
+ _ _ _ _ _ _ -
. |__4.15__|
. |_4.15 _|
. |___| 3.8v
. |____| 4.0v
and i still able to charge it externaly
it looks like: NO COMMENTS :s
well, its time for the hardware try.
The "the MrClean nk.nbf " you used, did you strip it?
Because it's quite an old ROM, and I believe it only contains G3 IPL/SPL.
If you have flashed your G4 with that one, you probably have killed your G4 by flashing an G3 IPL/SPL to it..
the-equinoxe said:
The "the MrClean nk.nbf " you used, did you strip it?
Because it's quite an old ROM, and I believe it only contains G3 IPL/SPL.
If you have flashed your G4 with that one, you probably have killed your G4 by flashing an G3 IPL/SPL to it..
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but as i said before, it was working.
so how could it reboot after update but cannot startup on power on?!
due said:
but as i said before, it was working.
so how could it reboot after update but cannot startup on power on?!
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If you flash a wrong IPL/SPL to a phone it always starts up once.
But upon the following reboot it won't accept the IPL/SPL and will hang on boot (black screen).
As for now there is no way to get out of this mess.
This is what I have seen till now:
Device G3 with IPL G4 / SPL G3 gives a black screen
Device G3 with IPL G4 / SPL G4 gives a black screen
Device G3 with IPL G3 / SPL G4 haven't seen this one
Device G4 with IPL G3 / SPL G4 gives a black screen
Device G4 with IPL G3 / SPL G3 gives a black screen
Device G4 with IPL G4 / SPL G3 gives a bootmode screen, but doesn't allow you to update or flash.
All boot the first time after Flash..
On second boot, the increments hit the fan so to speak..
Hi i flash to my MDA Vario IPL/SPL 3.08 but i can't downgrade !!
Any way to downgrade my MDA ???
It's CDI-Locked
Please help me !!
Thx !!!
If it is really G4, then you have a brick.
not exactly true !
you can download the softspl software which is on this forum,
who is your service provider vodafone, orange etc... ? which country
as you can reflash your ipl/spl back to the original carriers version with this software !
look at this post, it tell you all you need to know in the 1st couple of posts and all files are there...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342744
starkwong is absolutely right,if its a G4 ,flashing 3.08 will definitely brick the phone.
bleep
SoftSPL doesn't reflash back the original official ipl/spl of the carrier,it just only flashes the patched ipl/spl to the phone temporarily to trick the phone in thinking its CID unlocked.Do not misguide the newbies.
CrazyXbox360
Are you sure its a G4 ?what was the original ipl/spl of the phone,before upgrading to 3.08, what is the present status of the phone,does it load up to any OS or is it stuck at bootloaders(tricolor screen) or is it completely dead,non responsive ?
I flashed my G4 with ipl 3.08 but on that post i linked too there are the original ipl/spl files for most carriers and then you put that .nbf in the same directory as softspl (as you would when doing a rom flash) and he presto my ipl/spl is now back to original !
So im talking from my own expereince !
Okay i have a real G4 with IPL/SPL 3.08 !!
But nothing work to downgrade !!
Its a T-Mobile MDA Vario GER
Phone work 100% but i cant flash to a other Firmware !
Download the WST 4.2.2 tool ,run it and post the report it generates here.
WST 4.2.2 tool not work on IPL/SPL 3.08 G4
Post the exact version strings when your are in tri-color screen (If you really flashed G3 SPL to G4, the device should not be able to boot and stays on tri-color screen, which you are not able to use WST).
If IPL is 2.2x.0001 and SPL is 3.08, then it is definitely a brick. If IPL is 3.08 (or 3.08.0000) and SPL is 3.08 (or 3.08.0000), then you misunderstand it, it is a G3 not G4.
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WST 4.2.2 tool not work on IPL/SPL 3.08 G4
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You sure?
Use the "Device Info" button and post the result here...
I have a G4 and accidently flashed wizard love which gave me ipl 1.01 instead of 1.01.XXX. I used SoftSPL-V0.1 to update my ipl back to 2.01.XXX but I still can't flash any rom
did you try to flash it with a "No Vendor ID" Flasher?