I found this forum area, I checked my XDA after reading the sticky and it's a G4, so what is G4? What does it mean to me or how will it benefit me?
Thanks, I'm quiet a phone newbie, so sorry for the obvious lack of anything G4 related.
G4 is DOC Version = Disk On Chip = like a HDD in your PC :->
NetrunnerAT said:
G4 is DOC Version = Disk On Chip = like a HDD in your PC :->
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So it's just the type of hard-disk, so different software is different depending if it's G3 or G4?
Software is the same, however the Bootstrapper and OS Loader (IPL and SPL) are completely different.
If your IPL have .0001 then it's a G4.
G4 Wizard cannot flash ROM that have IPL and SPL ROM inside, or your Wizard will become a brick.
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Hi,
I have Qtek 9100 with IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.20.0001. When I switch on divice, it displeyed color screen and nothing more. I flash it whit many ROM's but IPL/SPL always is the same and did't work normal. How can I resolve the problem. Thanks!
Only with a JTAG device. It's a special device that can access the chips without the need for the phone to be working. But nobody knows which are the JTAG pins so no luck here.
The IPL 1.xx is meant for the G3 DOC chip Wizards and G4 all have IPL/SPL starting at 2.xx.xxxxx. Since IPL is the firt bootloader with information and addresses for SPL and since they don't match you'll never get out of that situation...
Thanks for reply. I have JTAC device and will try to find jtag pinouts for Wizard G4.
havy said:
Hi,
I have Qtek 9100 with IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.20.0001. When I switch on divice, it displeyed color screen and nothing more. I flash it whit many ROM's but IPL/SPL always is the same and did't work normal. How can I resolve the problem. Thanks!
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Try..
(1) put the phone in bootloader mode
(2) flash it with cingular 1.x radio (search for it)
you should get a normal device in the end
best of luck!
dont know how
kdskamal said:
Try..
(1) put the phone in bootloader mode
(2) flash it with cingular 1.x radio (search for it)
you should get a normal device in the end
best of luck!
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(1) OK
(2) DONT KNOW HOW!!
Please help, i never did this. how do i flash the phone if my comp does not recognise it (i can only enter the bootloader screen).
You should
1) Flash only IPL/SPL from g4 (f.e. 2.26.0001) to get your SPL/IPL the same with italian RUU 2.5.2
2) Flash ROM without IPL/SPL italian RUU 2.5.2
yesterday we bringed such device to live) try
how do you compare that with Atom
Hi,
I have got O2 Arom.
does anyone know whether my device is equivelent to G3 or G4?? or its completely diff technology that cannot be compared!!!
I know O2 Atom is by Quanta and it uses CPLD (Complex programmble Logic Design!! I hope i remember this right).
this can't be compared at all, totally different technology. there is a whole separate section for the atom. just go to the forum root page and look for the atom.
Hi,
I spent 6-7 hours of reading all kind of suggestions and etc, how to bring a brick to life. the only closest to my situation is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295623
I flashed my phone several times and i hadnt much of problems until i tried to put wm6 update.
The last time I tried to downgrade to CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE and the phone freezed to the start screen (that picture with the beer). I restarted it several times but it never went beyond it.
Then I tried to put the previous ROM that worked. I entered bootload mode and started the upgrade wizard. I waited it to finish, but it didnt! When it reached 98% it suddenly got back to 95%(!?) and after few seconds a message for connecition interupted appeared on the computer. The phone stayed on 95% for some time more and nothing happened. Then i clicked on the "how to restore" button of the upgrade wizard. I followed the instructions which stated on step 3 "remove the battery of the phone".
After I did that, my phone died and since then i cant do anything with it. The screen is all black. Of course I tried hard reset, bootloader mode and etc - all failed. It doesnt go into bootloader mode or do hard reset. The computer does not detect any USB connections. The charger doesnt appear to be detected by the phone (LED doesnt light up). There should be 50-60% battery power left. It was working perfectly before flashing.
I think the main problem now is how to enter the Bootloader.
Im not quite familiar with SD flashing, but i think i have the necessary hardware, just please advise is it possible and how I can do it.
Edit: Now I found that my SD card is unreadable too
Please help
Sorry
Greetings,
Sorry for your situation, but do you have G4 or G3 wizard.
If G4 was it CID locked or unlocked.
samy.3660 said:
Greetings,
Sorry for your situation, but do you have G4 or G3 wizard.
If G4 was it CID locked or unlocked.
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it is g4 cid locked
edit: i now remember that IPL & SPL had different versions like 1.x & 2.x after downgrading. I didnt know that I have to reflash in that case i found it in the forum too late
You should have read more before trying to flash your phone...
That downgrade that you made bricked your phone. That ROM was intended for G3 ONLY. If you have a G4 you should flash only G4-ROMS (or read how to extract ipl & spl from a G3 ROM) ... I am afraid there are no known solutions, because IPL and SPL on a G4 can`t be succesfully upgraded/reflashed (the hardware doesn`t allow that)
(the hardware doesn`t allow that)
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so how i did broke them in the first place?
anyway i'm trying to cook a SD card image, but the typhoon 5 tool doesnt convert the files to sd image format
Code:
C:\work>typho5.exe -r ipl=nk.nbf -d az.img
read 04741800 for ipl from nk.nbf
no IPL at 4 in IPL image
my idea is to either get a packeded file with all the modules or put them to the SD card one by one at the appropriate offset as it is described in the Wiki (using the winhex disk editor). Is the *.nb format the same as the modules in the SD card image? I mean can i directly paste the contents of the .nb files into the apropriate offset to the empty SD card?
Your only solutions are to get a new board or to get a JTAG device and discover the JTAG pins on the board since it's the only way you can access the flash chip without a bootloader. Problem is until now no one has managed to find the JTAG pins (or bothered).
What you have done was flashing an IPL (Initial Program Loader) that is for G3 DOC chips only (with a 130 nm manufacturing process) ; and since you have a G4 DOC chip (90 nm manufacturing process) the process fails.
This is the IPL:
A small XIP memory (ROM, NOR flash or DiskOnChip boot block) that contains code to
perform minimal system initialization: It must at least initialize the chip-select unit so that
the ROM (if any), RAM, and DiskOnChip can be accessed.
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3.2. The Boot Process
• Power up and initialization: After system power up, the IPL code that resides on the XIP
block of the DiskOnChip is executed. The IPL code initializes the DiskOnChip controller
and the RAM.
• Copying the SPL code from DiskOnChip to RAM: After initialization, the IPL reads and
loads the SPL code from the DiskOnChip binary partition to RAM. It then jumps to the SPL
start address in RAM and executes the SPL.
Notes: 1. In general, the IPL is limited in size to several KB (the size limitation varies,
depending on the device type), so it is not possible to include both the system
initialization code and the error correction code. The absence of the error correction
code in the IPL is the reason why the boot process is divided into the IPL stage and
SPL stage. The actual loading of the OS image to RAM is done by the SPL code.
Since the SPL runs in the system RAM, there is no limit on code size and it can
include the error correction code.
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As you can see on step 2 the IPL can't load SPL since they are for different chip versions.
cheers
mestrini said:
Your only solutions are to get a new board or to get a JTAG device and discover the JTAG pins on the board since it's the only way you can access the flash chip without a bootloader. Problem is until now no one has managed to find the JTAG pins (or bothered).
What you have done was flashing an IPL (Initial Program Loader) that is for G3 DOC chips only (with a 130 nm manufacturing process) ; and since you have a G4 DOC chip (90 nm manufacturing process) the process fails.
This is the IPL:
As you can see on step 2 the IPL can't load SPL since they are for different chip versions.
cheers
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yes, it seems that happened, but after flashing the g3 version, the phone still enters the bootloader. It died completely AFTER i tried to return the g4 version, and may be all happened because it didnt finish the instalation (which interupted for no reason) and stayed with messed up versions.
Anyway seems I need a new mobo, but i'm not sure i could find it here (i'm from Bulgaria) the closest vodafone store is in Romania. The phone is from Germany, a friend of mine bought it there.
This is Hard-SPL for the G4; flashing procedure is essentially the same as G3 although do make sure that the filesize you flash is 0xC0000 rather than the 1MB that people flash for a G3.
Cheers!
PS: while this has been tested and is known to work, I do not actually own a Wizard and so am relatively limited in the help I can offer with regard to issues you may have getting your device working or whatever
Great job Olipro! Stickied.
Damn nice! One step closer to a real cid-unlock You are great!
Olipro said:
This is Hard-SPL for the G4; flashing procedure is essentially the same as G3 although do make sure that the filesize you flash is 0xC0000 rather than the 1MB that people flash for a G3.
Cheers!
PS: while this has been tested and is known to work, I do not actually own a Wizard and so am relatively limited in the help I can offer with regard to issues you may have getting your device working or whatever
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sorry 2 sound like a noob
i've been using the uni
just bought a used g4 wizard..
how do v use this.????
how's this different from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
frz said:
sorry 2 sound like a noob
i've been using the uni
just bought a used g4 wizard..
how do v use this.????
how's this different from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
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This is one is the patched SPL file alone (the original). The other is the 'spoon feed' version meaning you just need to run a file once and all the job is done nice and easily...
PS:
One thing i find hard to understand is why this thread was made sticky a few minutes after being posted and the other two from The Equinox (sSPL and HardSPL), who are meant to be easy to handle and error proof for noobs weren't, even though they have proven to be of great help and acceptance.
Are we here for the good of all or is the status quo a relevant issue? (off the chest...sorry)
Can I flash this file in bootloader mode ??
My Wizzard is freezing on splashscreen and it's work only in bootloader mode. Is there any way to flash this file ??
It's the only rescue for my Wizzard.
chrzanek said:
Can I flash this file in bootloader mode ??
My Wizzard is freezing on splashscreen and it's work only in bootloader mode. Is there any way to flash this file ??
It's the only rescue for my Wizzard.
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You can but you must first build a nk.nb file with it and also flash via RUU
wow thanks....it's just sad that i don't know how i can help....
mestrini said:
You can but you must first build a nk.nb file with it and also flash via RUU
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Thanks I did this, but it does't help to me i still have:
Cmd>r2sd os
***** user area size = 0xF300000 Bytes
R2SDBackup() - Download type = 3
usTotalBlock = 1 sizeof(SDCARD_SIGNATRUE_TABLE)=512
You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image
when i'm trying to copy OS to sd card ( i have format failed when i'm trying HR )
So the only way is imei-check
You can use this topic(if your device is G3)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307332&page=4
1. flash Prophet cooked rom -> you can Hardreset
2. flash shiprom then unlock
i saved my G3 like that
RClub said:
You can use this topic(if your device is G3)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307332&page=4
1. flash Prophet cooked rom -> you can Hardreset
2. flash shiprom then unlock
i saved my G3 like that
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unfortunately it's G4. But thanks.
Hard-SPL not working at all on my WIZ (T-Mobile MDA VARIO US G4) CID unlock impossible! Anybody an idea how to get it unlocked?
The spl flashing works fine and it even shows the olip spl when rebooting the wiz but afterwards everything remains the same - can't flash other roms!
Junner2003 said:
Hard-SPL not working at all on my WIZ (T-Mobile MDA VARIO US G4) CID unlock impossible! Anybody an idea how to get it unlocked?
The spl flashing works fine and it even shows the olip spl when rebooting the wiz but afterwards everything remains the same - can't flash other roms!
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Have you tried the Mun RUU in the Hard SPL posted in TS of the Hard SPL thread?
How does the Soft SPL work?
is it possible to use it even with my SPL? (see signature)
cheers
irm
I have an extra 8125 laying around so I thought I would play with it. I applied your update and I am going to assume I can upgrade the 8125 to WM6 as long as the IPL and SPL doesnt change. I have looked at some other post on this site and there seems to be options in wich you can upgrade the IPL/SPL and still CID and SIM unlock the 8125. At the present with the solution from this thread I have the 8125 Sim unlocked.
total noob here
Olipro said:
This is Hard-SPL for the G4; flashing procedure is essentially the same as G3 although do make sure that the filesize you flash is 0xC0000 rather than the 1MB that people flash for a G3.
Cheers!
PS: while this has been tested and is known to work, I do not actually own a Wizard and so am relatively limited in the help I can offer with regard to issues you may have getting your device working or whatever
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i know my device is a G4 so am in the right place, but what exactly do i do with this file?
How to upgrade a unlocked HTC Wizard
Hi
I have a used Qtek 9100 with preinstalled NBD 9.3 ( Do not know who did it? ). I know it is a G4 and it may be CID Unlocked. I wanted to flash a new or another ROM so what should I do.
What is the HardSPL and SoftSPL, do I need to use these to flash new rom to my mobile.
I have installed/checked the Wizard Service Tool v4.2.2. These are the info..
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CPU: Texas Instruments - OMAP850
MODEL: Wizard
IMEI: 356384008852681
=> Bootloaders:
IPL: 2.17.0001 (G4 device)
SPL: 2.17.0001 (G4 device)
Built on Feb 10 2006 at 11:55:14
Copyright (c) 2003 High Tech Computer Corporation
=> Firmware:
OS: 5.2.xxx (Build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM: 0.0
Registry AKU: .0.4.2
Radio: 02.07.1ò
Protocol: P413.1.03
=>Extended_ROM:
Version: Unknown
Name: Extended_ROM
Status: hidden
=> Drives and partitions:
|--Handle--|---Size---|
4fb80df6 - 19.00k (0x4c00)
ee9ce08e - 9.99M (0x9fd800)
ceadaa12 - 43.24M (0x2b3e000)
eeb28aa2 - 50.88M (0x32e0000)
eeb287ee - 3.00M (0x300000)
0eb2879a - 3.06M (0x30fc00)
=> DOC chip unique ID:
00000000fd23020138300e891503067f
Key Index: 2
------------------------------------------------------------
Please guide me.
At last, BT icon is disabled in taskbar. How to enable it? Please help....
Many Thanks
Srikanth.K
ksrikanth said:
Hi
I have a used Qtek 9100 with preinstalled NBD 9.3 ( Do not know who did it? ). I know it is a G4 and it may be CID Unlocked. I wanted to flash a new or another ROM so what should I do.
What is the HardSPL and SoftSPL, do I need to use these to flash new rom to my mobile.
I have installed/checked the Wizard Service Tool v4.2.2. These are the info..
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CPU: Texas Instruments - OMAP850
MODEL: Wizard
IMEI: 356384008852681
=> Bootloaders:
IPL: 2.17.0001 (G4 device)
SPL: 2.17.0001 (G4 device)
Built on Feb 10 2006 at 11:55:14
Copyright (c) 2003 High Tech Computer Corporation
=> Firmware:
OS: 5.2.xxx (Build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM: 0.0
Registry AKU: .0.4.2
Radio: 02.07.1ò
Protocol: P413.1.03
=>Extended_ROM:
Version: Unknown
Name: Extended_ROM
Status: hidden
=> Drives and partitions:
|--Handle--|---Size---|
4fb80df6 - 19.00k (0x4c00)
ee9ce08e - 9.99M (0x9fd800)
ceadaa12 - 43.24M (0x2b3e000)
eeb28aa2 - 50.88M (0x32e0000)
eeb287ee - 3.00M (0x300000)
0eb2879a - 3.06M (0x30fc00)
=> DOC chip unique ID:
00000000fd23020138300e891503067f
Key Index: 2
------------------------------------------------------------
Please guide me.
At last, BT icon is disabled in taskbar. How to enable it? Please help....
Many Thanks
Srikanth.K
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With IPL/SPL 2.17.0001 and running NBD 9 series,which is a wm6 rom,it must have be upgraded through 'SoftSPL' method,now you can change the rom either with SoftSPL or if you want to get your phone semi-CID unlocked,you can apply 'HardSPL',it'll flash patched IPL/SPL to make it semi-CID unlocked,remember,a G4 device cannot be permanantly CID unlocked like a G3 phone,but you'll be able to flash any wm6 or 6.1 rom easily with HardSPL.
HardSPL method is done only once and after that you can flash and change rom easily,where as,with SoftSPL,you'll have to do the Flash every time through SoftSPL,but it doesn't change the original Bootloaders (IPL/SPL).
The choice is your !
How to upgrade my i-mate K-JAM? please help me
Hi i flash to my MDA Vario IPL/SPL 3.08 but i can't downgrade !!
Any way to downgrade my MDA ???
It's CDI-Locked
Please help me !!
Thx !!!
If it is really G4, then you have a brick.
not exactly true !
you can download the softspl software which is on this forum,
who is your service provider vodafone, orange etc... ? which country
as you can reflash your ipl/spl back to the original carriers version with this software !
look at this post, it tell you all you need to know in the 1st couple of posts and all files are there...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342744
starkwong is absolutely right,if its a G4 ,flashing 3.08 will definitely brick the phone.
bleep
SoftSPL doesn't reflash back the original official ipl/spl of the carrier,it just only flashes the patched ipl/spl to the phone temporarily to trick the phone in thinking its CID unlocked.Do not misguide the newbies.
CrazyXbox360
Are you sure its a G4 ?what was the original ipl/spl of the phone,before upgrading to 3.08, what is the present status of the phone,does it load up to any OS or is it stuck at bootloaders(tricolor screen) or is it completely dead,non responsive ?
I flashed my G4 with ipl 3.08 but on that post i linked too there are the original ipl/spl files for most carriers and then you put that .nbf in the same directory as softspl (as you would when doing a rom flash) and he presto my ipl/spl is now back to original !
So im talking from my own expereince !
Okay i have a real G4 with IPL/SPL 3.08 !!
But nothing work to downgrade !!
Its a T-Mobile MDA Vario GER
Phone work 100% but i cant flash to a other Firmware !
Download the WST 4.2.2 tool ,run it and post the report it generates here.
WST 4.2.2 tool not work on IPL/SPL 3.08 G4
Post the exact version strings when your are in tri-color screen (If you really flashed G3 SPL to G4, the device should not be able to boot and stays on tri-color screen, which you are not able to use WST).
If IPL is 2.2x.0001 and SPL is 3.08, then it is definitely a brick. If IPL is 3.08 (or 3.08.0000) and SPL is 3.08 (or 3.08.0000), then you misunderstand it, it is a G3 not G4.
cosmabgd said:
WST 4.2.2 tool not work on IPL/SPL 3.08 G4
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You sure?
Use the "Device Info" button and post the result here...
I have a G4 and accidently flashed wizard love which gave me ipl 1.01 instead of 1.01.XXX. I used SoftSPL-V0.1 to update my ipl back to 2.01.XXX but I still can't flash any rom
did you try to flash it with a "No Vendor ID" Flasher?
Newbie here...
What is G4 exactly?
oops seemed i found the answer
4...g4 and g3 are diffrent versions of prophets do to the chip intalled inside... (in boot screen 0001 »g4 001»g3)
If it ends in a "1" it's a G4...
If IPL/SPL are something like 2.10.0001, then the device is G4, if it's 2.10, the device is a G3.
G3 devices have slightly more memory aswell.
The G3/G4 part of it is to do with what DOC module they have.