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yes they are but wait its only for ipaq's & dell
and even window media player-10 t that is also for ipaq's & dell.
how mean of them inspite all the htc devices run on windows.
someone gotta teach them a lesson.
heres the link see for yourself's
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/pscmisc/vac/us/en/sm/pocketpc/MS5.0_upgrade.html for wm5
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/windowsmobile/default.aspx
for wm-10 player
can someone tell me if this will work on a himalaya?
am ready to buy this os
regards.
Hi
First of all, read wiki, and then ask questions.
Microsoft doesn't 'sell' WM5.0 roms.
Several devices' vendors support buying/upgrading, but unfortunately not HTC.
However, you can get WM5 for Himalaya, because wonderful people at xda-developers made this possible.
Read wiki, to get it:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Himalaya
Note, that this upgrade is not official and is still problematic....
People here are working hard to make it better.
@robal
dont be in a hurry, go to the link i have posted and see for yourself they are selling it for $39.99.
and yes i am aware of the wm5 rom's on buzzdev, and they have ton's of bug's.
since they are selling the rom in the hp site.
it should be trouble free.
Same as update to 2003se. Won't work (without patches) on any other then Ipaq's and Dell's. For other devices you are refered to the manifacturer.
Looked at this before, strategy of microsoft still the same.
Don't buy unless they say that they have an upgrade for your "specific" device.
A Real M$
ms dont make roms for devices
for the ipaq's hp makes roms for their devices and sell them
for htc devices htc makes roms for their devices and offer them for free
people must understand that when you buy a cd with windows for your pc it include all the drivers so it will run on every pc supported
when you get a rom for your device where the size of the rom is limited in space you only get the drivers and stuff for that very device and not anything else
roms are custom made and hardcoded to work on that special hardware config
if ms sell mw2005 but only to pda manufactors along with the tools required to build the rom from scratch along with the drivers for the cam or wifi cpu and the likes that pda uses
if you buy a hp rom then it will work just fine
that is if you install it on the supported hp pda
it will not work on anything else
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
then don't
or you can read the fourms and follow directions and upgrade to pk3
WHY?? make your device faster more stable less bugs and better programs built in if you dont want to break your device dont install any extra software than what comes on the official disc's but if you do this why bother getting the best device out there? extra software adds extra functionality and so does flashing a new rom it needs to be done just read all relevent forums all the way thru and if anything does go wrong we will be here to help and hopefully get this sorted for you
You don't have too and if you are at all unsure then don't!
SupraSkylineSTI said:
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
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Let's see a show of hands out there... How many people have gone back to their original ROM after trying PK? As long as you are willing to accept the consequences if something goes wrong (unlikely if you can read and follow instructions) it's a no-brainer.
SupraSkylineSTI said:
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
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This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
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This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
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Thanks for that post man...
You really helped me.
I thought that it was mandatory to flash the roms or my device would run like crap but I guess that isn't the case.
eaglesteve said:
This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
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i think i can happily say all programs in pk 3.0 can be turned off. the extended rom customizations u can soft reset on and they will be gone.the programs like wktask for task mananger u have to turn on and enable it to come on at boot. the rest of the programs do not turn on by thier own u have to select them. ap dual 3.0 will be less bloated with this stuff. vxutil, pocketrar, total commander, wm5torage,wktask, softkey app, and htc apps will only be in there. i could be more specific but i wont be. those apps i think we can say we will use and if not they can be just ignored speciall totalcommander, wm5torage, and vxutil since they in system and out of the way. softkey is hidden so that leaves pocketrar and wktask out there. most apps u can remove the shorcuts and it will look like a stock rom. stock roms have same amount of availbable space as my roms. only differences in available space are via ext rom installs. i believe ap dual 3.0 will be successful and will provide variety.
Okay well i'm not so sure about this whole 'upgrading' process.
people say wm6 is a significant speed increase from wm5. is this true?
my at&t 8525 out of the box ran and still runs like a charm since I got it on christmas. whenever I am loading an application or process of any type. its quite speedy. when I change the screen orientation, it beats my friend's tilt. as well as my friends cingular 8125 with a cooked faria's wm6 rom. so even though I l like the UI of wm6, I still need a little convincing to move me away from my at&t wm5 with spb pocket 4. any input?
p.s - my first topic typed from my hermes =)
try it yourself. we all have different experiences, thus us telling you our experience might confuse you even more.
that's what I was hoping for. more opinions to confuse me and make me think
My experience with this blasted thing is don't fix what aint broke. If it's running how you like it, leave it be
There's nothing really wrong with WM5, I used it on my old XDA Exec (HTC Universal) while I had it and I liked it.
WM6 is an improvement though in my opinion as it has more options, better web browser, and the whole thing looks prettier to the eye. It's also meant to be quicker than WM5, and being the latest operating system for Pocket PC mobiles it seems silly not to upgrade.
That said, I found the whole upgrade thing a little confusing at 1st and I wasn't aware of the terminology. I advise reading the forums for a little ut and asking questions on anything your unsure of beforeyou attempt to flash your phone.
By the way, Windows Mobile 6.1 has just started comming out now as cooked roms, so if youupgrade you might want to try a version of that. I'm running CRC's WM6.1 version 6 and so far I'mpretty happy with it!
i personally think wm6 is not meant for 8525, i've tried most of the popular benchmarked wm6 roms and they all seem sluggish compared to my original ATT wm5 rom.... well maybe because bad processing speed that is one of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to phones.
other than that, wm5 does look prettier and im sure those roms have the latest radios, bluetooth drivers, etc.
Dear Sirs,
I think that the Mozart is a fine device.
Unfortunately, Microsoft has finally arrived with its mobile branch in the
windows world,
where there is the old saying :
"if there is a service pack 2, then you can start to work with the operating system".
So I am thinking of getting a mozart,
and let windows mobile 6.5 run on it,
until summer next year, where I expect WM 7 to be useable.
Are there any people who have done this yet,
or are you all eager to play with Windows Phone 7 and it's Bugs ?
Regards,
Soulchen
You haven't actually used it have you?
Regardless, it's an idiotic idea, if you want WM get a WM phone and upgrade to a next gen WP device next year.
using it
I am currently using WM 6.0 on a HTC device branded by T-Mobile.
"MDA Compact IV".
So I admit that I haven't used 6.5, but I think - as 6.0 is quite fine - that 6.5 sould be better than 6.0.
(if it's not, please tell me)
as Win 7 has no copy and paste, no direct syncing to outlook without the web,
and it's quite locked up,
I think, that somehow 6.5 seems a better idea for me than 7.
Regards,
Soulchen
Hallo @all,
I also would like to use WM 6.5.5 on the Mozart. Is this to be expected?
I had to take the T-Mobile Mozart (16GB) but I have a HD2 and I love this because of the Option to run ANdroid and 6.5.5 .... If this is not realistic I will sell the Mozart otherwise pherhaps the HD2
Thanks in advice
forgotten_soul said:
Dear Sirs,
I think that the Mozart is a fine device.
Unfortunately, Microsoft has finally arrived with its mobile branch in the
windows world,
where there is the old saying :
"if there is a service pack 2, then you can start to work with the operating system".
So I am thinking of getting a mozart,
and let windows mobile 6.5 run on it,
until summer next year, where I expect WM 7 to be useable.
Are there any people who have done this yet,
or are you all eager to play with Windows Phone 7 and it's Bugs ?
Regards,
Soulchen
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In every way, windows phone 7 is better than 6.5, no doubt about it.
And besides that, there is no way to install wm6.5 to the mozart, nor will anyone try to develop it, because there really is no sense in putting an crappy os like wm6.5 when you have Windows Phone 7 that is working great out of the box. And wm6.5 has no multi-touch so aint never gonna work on our SLCD screens.
If you love 6.5 and dont like wp7, whats the point in getting a mozart?
The only reason i can see in getting a mozart is :-
A) you want one.
B) you want to try wp7.
If you have a hd2 and are happy with the fine selection of roms there are then stick with it. If wp7 was out for the hd2 i would have not got the mozart as i think the hd2 is a much nicer phone. I like wp7 and the mozart but would much rather have wp7 on my hd2. wp7 still needs time to grow and the problems and bugs will start to fix so let judge it once some of the problems have been addressed, i mean when was the last time anyone can remember microsoft putting out anything that works straight out the box with no bugs or problems? We all get phones running their os and spend time here chatting rubbish about them, but we all keep flashing roms and waiting for the next big fix or tweak. If you want 6.5 on a mozart your wasting you money, get the hd2 or just get in with the rest of the robots and get an iphone.
breakbystealth said:
get the hd2 or just get in with the rest of the robots and get an iphone.
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Buy my 8 month old HTC HD2 from me then if you want 6.5.5
Just remember, the Mozart is a Windows Phone 7 only. And to consider downgrading for functionality as simple as cut and paste and tethering, well your missing the point of the new OS totally.
There are stacks of 6.5.5 models still available, as i said.. by mine!
rxsoob said:
Buy my 8 month old HTC HD2 from me then if you want 6.5.5
Just remember, the Mozart is a Windows Phone 7 only. And to consider downgrading for functionality as simple as cut and paste and tethering, well your missing the point of the new OS totally.
There are stacks of 6.5.5 models still available, as i said.. by mine!
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has he asked if your hd2 can be downgraded to 6.1, sorry could not resist.
You have to use WP7, it is fantastic, sooo much better than 6.5.
I now have a phone that works and does everything it needs to. It has shown me that a phone is not a computer, and should not be used as one. Using the cloud is so efficient for my small business, I wish I had done it sooner.
Obviously there are some things to be added, but this is to be expected for something new.
Lack of software!!!
I am not arguing about how great WP7 is... It is just great, and working just fine, but I really don't see the point of having a nice device if you can not use it's gps for navigation unless you have a flatrate with bing maps?!?!
I have tons of WM 6 apps laying around (installed on other wm6 device) and I have a very nice phone WP7 but I have to carry both of them with me if I want to navigate...
Mozarts from T-Mobile Germany come with Navigon Select pre-installed (check out the T-Mobile Windows Phone website for details). If it wasn't on your device, you can download it for free!
I bought the device without a contract, to use it with my prepaid.
So, it is not the case...
I could download Navigon only if I were a Telekom user, which I am not, so I will have to wait till the next year... perhaps some navigation software developer will make wp7 navigation (not taking navigon in account, other navigation software suppliers did not announce their will to develop for WP7)
Hi All,
I'm also disappointed from WM7 Mozart. Actually it is a very nice phone ... unless you want to do some work with it. It doesn't have copy+paste (crazy like the first iPhones ), it doesn't sync with Outlook (stupid on-line sync with MicrosoftLive costs a lot of money if you are traveling!), doesn't run the old apps (actually this was one of the biggest Microsoft advantages - the backward compatibility), lack of navigation (I'm missing quite a lot iGo and Garmin) and finally - the lack of tethering. The latest is killing me (I can live with the others but that one...) as I'm using the phone to access Internet and do my job when I have an emergency. Now I have to choose - either phone or GSM modem to access Internet. This is ridiculous.
So I'm waiting either Microsoft to have the tethering back or to have WM6.5 on Mozart. Or else - bye-bye WM7! I don't have so much money to spend just for a nice looking device which actually does ... nothing
BR
prr said:
Hi All,
I'm also disappointed from WM7 Mozart. Actually it is a very nice phone ... unless you want to do some work with it. It doesn't have copy+paste (crazy like the first iPhones ), it doesn't sync with Outlook (stupid on-line sync with MicrosoftLive costs a lot of money if you are traveling!), doesn't run the old apps (actually this was one of the biggest Microsoft advantages - the backward compatibility), lack of navigation (I'm missing quite a lot iGo and Garmin) and finally - the lack of tethering. The latest is killing me (I can live with the others but that one...) as I'm using the phone to access Internet and do my job when I have an emergency. Now I have to choose - either phone or GSM modem to access Internet. This is ridiculous.
So I'm waiting either Microsoft to have the tethering back or to have WM6.5 on Mozart. Or else - bye-bye WM7! I don't have so much money to spend just for a nice looking device which actually does ... nothing
BR
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For the love of God THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WM7!!! It is WINDOWS PHONE 7, and is a totally different operating system.
Wm6 wm6.5 wp7
As i recently got a Mozart, i have been watching this post with interest. I can only agree the WM6 WM6.5 are sooooo different from W-PHONE 7. To down grade a Mozart to WM6.5 may work, but it would need someone with the skills and a good reason to do it.
I have used WM6 & WM6.5 on my HTC Rhodium. They both are different in layout/feel/working method, but run similar Apps. so far NONE of these run on WP7, as its a different OS.
My suggestion is keep the Mozart on WP7, and good Apps WILL follow. If you want to run WM6 or 6.5 Apps, get yourself a nice HTC Rhodium. You should get a good one on e bay or similar.
Gyuritzy said:
I bought the device without a contract, to use it with my prepaid.
So, it is not the case...
I could download Navigon only if I were a Telekom user, which I am not, so I will have to wait till the next year... perhaps some navigation software developer will make wp7 navigation (not taking navigon in account, other navigation software suppliers did not announce their will to develop for WP7)
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Well, old post, but:
You can get a T-Mo Prepaid-Sim or some of your friends/family have a T-Mo SIM,
put it in and downloading Navigon should work. After that put your usual SIM in and that's it.
I've read somewhere that this should work.
Pls can someone explain to me why 6.5 cannot be loaded on a mozart?
I got a mozart and would love 6.5 on it,7 SUCKS!my gps doesn`t work(my country not supported)Zune doesnt work(my country not supported)Cloud = not working(my country again)7 is as usefull as symbian on a nokia 3310 in south africa.
Please can someone help me to get 6.5 on my mozart.Or at least point me in the right direction.
Wp7 jailed users ... Because you can not install or create your applications without pass thru Market Place MS approval. I bought a HTC Mozart to try WP7, Its a great OS but if you can not install your developed Aplication. Your freedom is lost... Why M$ do not allow your choice ? The better thing about microsoft was the freedom, but now... When available I will downgrade to wm6.5 and wait wp7 becomes better.
andremgomes said:
Wp7 jailed users ... Because you can not install or create your applications without pass thru Market Place MS approval. I bought a HTC Mozart to try WP7, Its a great OS but if you can not install your developed Aplication. Your freedom is lost... Why M$ do not allow your choice ? The better thing about microsoft was the freedom, but now... When available I will downgrade to wm6.5 and wait wp7 becomes better.
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I would be idiot if i have this idea in even in my dream. if one wants window 6.5 then why to buy mozart its simply a not respecting the money and its value and beauty of innovation /technology. I believe people who takes the time to even read and reply this thread is like a wasting of our time.
The Question still stands: IS IT POSSIBLE to load 6.5 on a mozart?what is needed to do it?
Hello to all the XDA community. Before starting, I want to clarify that I am French, so I apologize for the possibly questionable translation by Google Translate.
As indicated in the title, my request concerns a very old smartphone model: the Samsung Omnia i900, or Player Addict in France. I come to you with a very specific request and, even if I have few illusions, I hope that someone can help me...
As the title of this file indicates, this is a Samsung Omnia i900 (Player Addict). At the time of the next Samsung S22, and despite its age, I am still using a copy that is almost 13 years old this year (I am 16) and which, as surprising as it may seem, still works wonderfully. I mention in passing that he took a little dip in the bathtub 10 years ago, but it's only a distant memory since he recovered on his own. I mainly use it as an MP3 player, the Web is closing itself more and more to it, but I'm so attached to it that I've embarked on a real restoration campaign, just to "update" it, if 'you can update an obsolete operating system… I then discovered XDA Developers, and, thanks to you, the little smartphone has almost come back to life. Thanks to some old forum files, I unlocked it, installed Net Compact Framework 3.5, experimented with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, changed some registry values (changed logo on startup), etc… In addition, I also modernized thanks to the Wayback Machine where I was able to download the latest version of Google Maps and Opera Mobile 10. Finally, I replaced the touch screen myself and I am currently waiting for a new "body", making it an almost new laptop. But now, I want to go to the next step, and that's the subject of this file: the ROM.
After this slight update, I came up with the idea of flashing my current ROM for a more recent ROM. The smartphone was indeed purchased from SFR, and therefore runs on the operator ROM. I therefore want to replace it with the latest French ROM without an operator, in order to fully exploit it. Moreover, it has never been updated, therefore never flashed, which implies the presence of bugs which could have been modified afterwards. Thanks to your forum, I pretty much know how to do it, and am fully aware that wrong flashing leads to bricking, and flashing also leads to loss of all data. It's a risk I'm willing to take. I only miss one thing: the precious ROM. However, for 10 years, the various links and sites have disappeared, and even a small turn on the Wayback Machine does not give blazing results at first sight. And when it comes to finding a French version…
It is for this reason that I am appealing to you today. I have been able to know, by exploring your old files, that there have been a lot of custom ROMs on this forum, and, given all the advice you have given, I think you are the most able to help me. to help. So, I'm looking for a ROM for Samsung Omnia i900 (aka Player Addict), in French, and official. Official, for the version under WM 6.1 anyway. On the other hand, I would also be tempted by a custom ROM for WM 6.5. I know the OS was never "officially" released on the Omnia i900, but I know many of you have made your own ROMs to accommodate it. I particularly like the Titanium Today, and the more finger-friendly use. Does anyone among you have in their old hard drives, in their archives, an official French ROM under WM 6.1, or a custom ROM for WM 6.5? I specify that if it is WM 6.5, I would need the widgets and the Samsung Today. I may be difficult, but I would like to put a newer system (especially not Android, I have my Galaxy S5 for that), while keeping the features originally present. Regarding flashing, having a computer running Windows 11, would a possible flashing be possible? I thought I heard flashing could go wrong if it wasn't Windows XP...
I apologize again for disturbing, I suspect that this request is very particular, given the age of the device, but I keep the hope that someone will still have at home the precious Grail that will allow me to modernize once and for all my venerable device.
For information, my Omnia runs under the XHIB3/AEIB2 ROM (I think I read the right line…), and this is the 16 Go version.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Nicolas
PS: This is my first time writing on a forum, so I apologize if I missed any steps when posting this file… I'm only a high school student, not a developer, so I don't know not if I'm really allowed to post on your forum...