Touch.dll - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

is there any thing diffenert from the touch.dll from the vouge i put it in the rom and i dont know if its me but it seems like the touch on the screen is better what do yall thing.

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wm2003 trouble on XDA 1

Hello!
i have upgraded my rom to 4.00.11 from lumpistefans kitchen....dis was the best ROM i had ever tried and is alomost with out any bugs....but there is one thing that i think its wrong....sometimes the backlight does not respond to screen taps...??dis is highly usnusual...any one has any solution for dis...?secondly...on wm2003 i get dese wierd horizontal lines in my sms inbox,my notes,pocket word...???is dis a normal feature of wm2003...???
anyone....??
the liners are suppose to be there
suppose ms think it's pretty
never had any issues with the screen not wanting to respond
maybe some program you installed are eating up too much cpu time or something
thanks rudgar...yea i suppose ms thinks its pretty :lol: !!but i ahvent installed ANTHING that can make it slow...is there a known bug in that ROM version...??
dont know i only used the 4.00.10 version from tmobile on my xda1
thank you very much!i really appreciate your help...i guess there is something wrong with the ROM,i cooked it again but the same problem prevails...i have to turn on/off the power to get the backlight back on...can u recommend me a better ROM,which is not of ANY operator (similar to the one i have>4.00.11).

HTC Touch

Does anyone know ?
HTC Touch could be upgrade to Transform/PV Touch VII?
That sure is a compliment for HMA4 and Gullum
hehe this must be when I reached my goal ... when I started I just wanted all touch apps to run on my prophet and I reached that goal in version 3 or 4 but now when Touch users want to flash my rom it's gone way beond my goal I do still want the camera from touch to work without battery drain. then I would be finished with Prophet Touch series.
If someone did port these version to Touch then they would run yes but not as they are now.... but to let you in on a secret verry litle has to be changed to make them work

[ROM][WWE][04-13-2009]At0mAng WM 6.5 Black Matter Powered|Build 21500|Beta 1

Here is my first attempt at a WM6.5 ROM.
It is pretty much like my 6.1 ROMs found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502421 but built on 6.5.
I suggest to use the same HotFixes.
Please leave feedback...
Click here to download ROM
Thanks to Da_G for the 21500 build!
TF3D2 1D is included. Needs to be turned on from settings.
Reserved
Lets see how this goes
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Will try this out tomorrow. Is the battery life the same as your old ones?
PwnCakes193 said:
Will try this out tomorrow. Is the battery life the same as your old ones?
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I am guessing it is not as good since 6.5 itself uses more resources.
At0mAng said:
I am guessing it is not as good since 6.5 itself uses more resources.
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Really? I heard from a ton of people the 6.5 was better with battery life. hm. did you apply your tweaks to this one though?
PwnCakes193 said:
Really? I heard from a ton of people the 6.5 was better with battery life. hm. did you apply your tweaks to this one though?
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Yes...all same tweaks. I guess I assumed wrong. I haven't played with it long enough to see what the battery life is like. The battery life seemed normal for the amount of time I used it and what I was doing (surfing with wifi, bluetooth on and running through everything besides for the phone and GPS
I agree!!
PwnCakes193 said:
Really? I heard from a ton of people the 6.5 was better with battery life. hm. did you apply your tweaks to this one though?
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My personal experience with all but one 6.5 is that battery life is waaayyyy above 6.1 builds. I even cooked one myself with DA_G's kitchen and was getting > 2 days, with normal use, would probably have gotten > 3 days but it was too long between flashing, getting withdrawals. Honestly I don't know why the Elite chefs are staying with 6.1. 6.5 is much more responsive and definitely seems less buggy than the overtweaked 6.1's.
rbin said:
My personal experience with all but one 6.5 is that battery life is waaayyyy above 6.1 builds. I even cooked one myself with DA_G's kitchen and was getting > 2 days, with normal use, would probably have gotten > 3 days but it was too long between flashing, getting withdrawals. Honestly I don't know why the Elite chefs are staying with 6.1. 6.5 is much more responsive and definitely seems less buggy than the overtweaked 6.1's.
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Im using it right now. I remember a week ago I left it on all night by accident on EDGE, with wifi on, and bluetooth on, from around midnight to 9 AM, it only lost 30 % of battery. I was shocked.
Ill be on a long trip tomorrow to go check out some colleges, so Ill see how long the battery actually lasts me
Hehe ive flashed very build of 6.5 since 21159 so know it well , ill be glad to test & leave feed back tomorrow.
Edit: just first little tidbit, during first boot before customaztion it shows a 6.1 splash screen(while not sure) im fiarly sure this is coming from the bootup animation, check the package...
if it meant to be there...ok lol
Edit2: two differnt connection managers ran...interesting, menu is not organized
Otherwise still testing looking good
very surprised how fast and stable 6.5 has gotten : ) this rom is awesome for everyday usage, only things i noticed were few dead links in start menu which u probably are aware of. awesome that htc black theme is in this rom last 6.5 rom i used few weeks back it wasnt present so good rom no probs here.
Also noticed those dead links -- for the winmo pictures app as well as for file explorer.
interestingly, if you add the links to the tf3d programs list, they work there -- but that confuses me. when you add a program to the tf3d list, isn't it just getting the info from the .lnk inside windows/start menu?
BTW - How did you get the menu enhancement working on this build of 6.5? I wasn't able to on my own build off Da_G's kitchen. Did you scale back to an earlier gwes?
jug6ernaut said:
Hehe ive flashed very build of 6.5 since 21159 so know it well , ill be glad to test & leave feed back tomorrow.
Edit: just first little tidbit, during first boot before customaztion it shows a 6.1 splash screen(while not sure) im fiarly sure this is coming from the bootup animation, check the package...
if it meant to be there...ok lol
Edit2: two differnt connection managers ran...interesting, menu is not organized
Otherwise still testing looking good
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I swore I saw the red/orange splash screen. Will look into it. I know about the start menu not being organized yet. Wanted to see how everything worked before I dug deeper into the organizing everything.
huudo said:
very surprised how fast and stable 6.5 has gotten : ) this rom is awesome for everyday usage, only things i noticed were few dead links in start menu which u probably are aware of. awesome that htc black theme is in this rom last 6.5 rom i used few weeks back it wasnt present so good rom no probs here.
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I found the dead links too. I am not sure why they are like that but will look into it.
I am making new folder icons for 6.5 since you can use a bit higher res and I believe more color options too.
Wordsmith9091 said:
BTW - How did you get the menu enhancement working on this build of 6.5? I wasn't able to on my own build off Da_G's kitchen. Did you scale back to an earlier gwes?
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I replaced the OEM folder that came with Da_G's kitchen with my own OEM folder. Then I copied over the autorun.exe, checkautorun.exe and checkautorun.lnk from his OEMDrivers folder to mine to get the customization to work. I did not do anything else to the SYS folder or replace any other files. Everything just worked for me. If you want my packages let me know and I can post them.
Come to think about it. It might be because my RGU file in the OEMDrivers is edited for it to work and since I switched OEM folders that could be it.
At0mAng said:
I swore I saw the red/orange splash screen. Will look into it. I know about the start menu not being organized yet. Wanted to see how everything worked before I dug deeper into the organizing everything.
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You did the see the red/orange splash screen it comes up right after the green windows 6.1 splash screen.
-McMex
On the packages -- sure, if you get a chance, although I think I'm holding off a making a new ROM until after a new version of 6.5 drops. But I'd love to poke around and see what I can learn.
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You did the see the red/orange splash screen it comes up right after the green windows 6.1 splash screen.
-McMex
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ding ding ding!
also to some1 asking about HTC Notifications...i got them working changing nothing?
jug6ernaut said:
ding ding ding!
also to some1 asking about HTC Notifications...i got them working changing nothing?
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They worked for me as well changing nothing.
-McMex
Use it for a whole day, fast and stable so far.
I will post bugs if i find any.

My conclusions on firmware upgrades...

Hi,
This is just a sum up of my last two day's experience flashing my Athena.
When I got it from eBay, it hat the german WM5 installed. Though I speak German, I did not want a german Firmware, so I installed Michy's WM6.1.
I was quite happy with it, but one thing annoyed me: on the original WM5, I could scroll in IE by tilting the device and Opera worked quite well, too.
On Michy's firmware, that functionality lacked somehow.
What I never got used to, was the huge size of icon's and menu's, so I started to use RealVGA. Unfortunatly the phone dialer doesn't like it, so I had to install an alternative software for it.
Over all, the phone worked pretty OK.
Because I got the swine flue, I had some extra time on my own, specially inbetween the fevers and so I decided to try out AP40, specially in order to get the SPL35 done for future WM6.5 releases.
1) AP40
The install went through fine and I had no problems.
First thing I checked was WIFI, because of the dreaded MAC-loss, but WIFI worked straight ahead.
I finished syncing, rebuilding all links in Start Menu and was happy about the new firmware...
...until I tried to switch on WIFI again. It could see my AP's, but Athena would not connect to any.
2) WM6.5
Because I did not find any fix for that, but found a few posts of others complaining about the same problem with AP40, I moved on and installed avengerpenguin's WM6.5.
While the ROM is great and the only bug I noticed was the wrong mapping of the FUNCTION key, I discovered something else:
WM6.5 sucks!
Huge icons, in a kind of honeycomb arrangement, making you have to scroll forever until the required icon is found.
Everything slow like hell (and Athena's CPU is fast enough, I would say).
Also, the menu structure is ridiculous. Makes no sense at all.
3) Back to Michy WM6.1
At then end, I went back to the ROM I had in the beginning of this journey. Now I need to rebuild all the Start Menu links (stupid me, I deleted the backup). It's about 30-40 programs I have installed on my SD - what the heck.
Conclusions:
1) AP40 has indeed a WIFI problem besides the missing MAC. This renders AP40 pretty useless to me.
2) WM6.5 sucks big time. I hate it.
3) Not sure if I should try an official WM6.0 ROM, before restoring all links. Curious about IE supporting the tilting to scroll.
4) My next phone will be an iPhone. Yes, I said it. Here is why:
- best browser around
- has some great applications
- best touch screen around
- just works
Perhaps I am getting old, but I do feel frustrated of having to flash all these firmware and none is giving all I need. Each firmware has something great but lacks something else.
Of course it's not the cookers fault - they are doing a great job.
It rather seems that Microsoft and the Provider (not even HTC's fault), just don't seem to give a F*** to their customer's satisfaction.
Example: How can it be possible that a device as the Athena, with such a big screen, has to be put up with the same menu's like a QVGA device? It almost hurts the eye to have such big menu's and icons.
Of course, you can install RealVGA, but then half of the programs don't work properly...
I just hope the company switches provider soon and gives me the option to pay the price difference for the iPhone.
Cheers,
vma
firmware frustration
vma said:
Hi,
This is just a sum up of my last two day's experience flashing my Athena.
When I got it from eBay, it hat the german WM5 installed. Though I speak German, I did not want a german Firmware, so I installed Michy's WM6.1.
I was quite happy with it, but one thing annoyed me: on the original WM5, I could scroll in IE by tilting the device and Opera worked quite well, too.
On Michy's firmware, that functionality lacked somehow.
What I never got used to, was the huge size of icon's and menu's, so I started to use RealVGA. Unfortunatly the phone dialer doesn't like it, so I had to install an alternative software for it.
Over all, the phone worked pretty OK.
Because I got the swine flue, I had some extra time on my own, specially inbetween the fevers and so I decided to try out AP40, specially in order to get the SPL35 done for future WM6.5 releases.
1) AP40
The install went through fine and I had no problems.
First thing I checked was WIFI, because of the dreaded MAC-loss, but WIFI worked straight ahead.
I finished syncing, rebuilding all links in Start Menu and was happy about the new firmware...
...until I tried to switch on WIFI again. It could see my AP's, but Athena would not connect to any.
2) WM6.5
Because I did not find any fix for that, but found a few posts of others complaining about the same problem with AP40, I moved on and installed avengerpenguin's WM6.5.
While the ROM is great and the only bug I noticed was the wrong mapping of the FUNCTION key, I discovered something else:
WM6.5 sucks!
Huge icons, in a kind of honeycomb arrangement, making you have to scroll forever until the required icon is found.
Everything slow like hell (and Athena's CPU is fast enough, I would say).
Also, the menu structure is ridiculous. Makes no sense at all.
3) Back to Michy WM6.1
At then end, I went back to the ROM I had in the beginning of this journey. Now I need to rebuild all the Start Menu links (stupid me, I deleted the backup). It's about 30-40 programs I have installed on my SD - what the heck.
Conclusions:
1) AP40 has indeed a WIFI problem besides the missing MAC. This renders AP40 pretty useless to me.
2) WM6.5 sucks big time. I hate it.
3) Not sure if I should try an official WM6.0 ROM, before restoring all links. Curious about IE supporting the tilting to scroll.
4) My next phone will be an iPhone. Yes, I said it. Here is why:
- best browser around
- has some great applications
- best touch screen around
- just works
Perhaps I am getting old, but I do feel frustrated of having to flash all these firmware and none is giving all I need. Each firmware has something great but lacks something else.
Of course it's not the cookers fault - they are doing a great job.
It rather seems that Microsoft and the Provider (not even HTC's fault), just don't seem to give a F*** to their customer's satisfaction.
Example: How can it be possible that a device as the Athena, with such a big screen, has to be put up with the same menu's like a QVGA device? It almost hurts the eye to have such big menu's and icons.
Of course, you can install RealVGA, but then half of the programs don't work properly...
I just hope the company switches provider soon and gives me the option to pay the price difference for the iPhone.
Cheers,
vma
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HI vma
I must say frankly, you've just expressed the conclusion I have been slowly coming to myself. I have also tried all possible roms and actually never been happy as there's always sth that doesn't work.
Perhaps it's windows mobile. I still hesitate as I'm waiting for a new athena from HTC. But perhaps Iphone is not such a bad idea.
Hi,
When I saw a first reply, I though it was to flame me for my unkind word to WM devices...
I have to admit I was a bit pissed. Afterall it took me two days of flashing, backing up, restoring backups, only to realize that the firmware I had (Michy's WM6.1) wasn't that bad.
During all that I thought I had fried my Athena - it stopped responding and it took me hald an hour to realize that the trick is to hold BOTH the camera and the communications buttons, while doing the reset.
I then reinstalled Michy's ROM again and somehow it has a bug, which must be the reason I had problems in the past: it will produce errors syncronizing.
At the end I thought that after so much efforts and me being in bed anyway, I might as well give the official WM6 from T-Mobile a try.
Well, I just finished shaping it to my desires. Took quite some time, but: tilting works, Youtube works (not inside the browser, but still it works), Opera and IE have nice renderings, allowing to zoom in and out (somehow on Michy's ROM the zoomlevel was always to big).
I think the ROM is now pretty OK. If I knew how to cook ROM's, I would cook it exactly like this.
Does this give me inner peace to take back what I said before?
No.
I am totally disappointed by WM6.5. It just sucks and is a waste of space on any screen with more than 320x200 resolution.
It is a waste on resources (our devices have faster and faster processors, yet WM seems to get less and less responsive).
The most important applications are the internet applications: wtf has IE such a big menu bar on top and bottom?
The list goes on and on and I won't even bother.
To all the cooks: I truly respect and appreciate your work. Please don't get annoyed by my postings. It is not your fault that Microsoft has been producing such a bad OS.
To all of you, who did not yet try it: pick an iPhone from someone (not the ones in the shops, specially the ones not connected to the internet) and play with it for 10 minutes... You will understand what I mean:
- you swipe the finger to scroll a page and it like flies under your finger. No resistance or lag whatsoever
- you open a webpage and it loads FAST. You can scroll it, zoom in and out and it just is so responsive
Ok. Enough crying...
Truth is: look at my signature and see that I always liked WinCE devices a lot... Shame the evolution seemed to have gone the wrong way.
Cheers,
vma
vma said:
Because I did not find any fix for that, but found a few posts of others complaining about the same problem with AP40, I moved on and installed avengerpenguin's WM6.5.
While the ROM is great and the only bug I noticed was the wrong mapping of the FUNCTION key, I discovered something else:
WM6.5 sucks!
Huge icons, in a kind of honeycomb arrangement, making you have to scroll forever until the required icon is found.
Everything slow like hell (and Athena's CPU is fast enough, I would say).
Also, the menu structure is ridiculous. Makes no sense at all.
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Maybe I can answer some of your issues with 6.5, the function key, is close to being fixed just needs some work on the keyboard map posted by xtep in the x7510 section.
The icons/menu can be fixed to an extent, not sure how though, it is possible to get smaller icons etc 4 or 5 across but I havent had time to research it fully as yet, also I have used some 6.5 roms for my blackstone that manage to use the old 6.1 menu system.
Now the biggest possibly hardest issue is the speed, I believe that most of the issues come from the fact that we do not have a native 6.5 memory kernel for the athena, which gives an additional 2 32mb memory slots to the OS, I am no expert but I think it is possible to port a memory kernel to the athena but this exceeds my capabilities and I am yet to find someone who can do it.
This would give us the greatest increase in speed etc, whilst my roms are optimized as far as I am capable there is still a long way to go.
However with this said I do agree with you winmo 6.5 is not that fast, not as fast as it should be with a 624mhz processor. When you compare it to something like android or Iphone it really seems to show its age/limitations
for me the R0 6.1 ROM has given me the most speed of ANY ROM out yet. It also has no bugs that I can see. Mem after a reset is 70MB and I think this goes a long way to giving the most speed.
I also want to make sure I'm not misunderstood, I think all the cooks on here have done incredible things given the constraints this OS gives them and my hats off to all of you that put so much time into developing new ROMs.
One other issue I think has hampered overall speed and usefullnes is the lack of a good driver for the graphics chip in the athena. I don't think we have ever had full access to it so rendering could be greatly improved thus making the speed that much better.
mietulok said:
HI vma
I must say frankly, you've just expressed the conclusion I have been slowly coming to myself. I have also tried all possible roms and actually never been happy as there's always sth that doesn't work.
Perhaps it's windows mobile. I still hesitate as I'm waiting for a new athena from HTC. But perhaps Iphone is not such a bad idea.
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I'm with you there. I have actually purchased a MacBook Pro to replace my old Toshiba Satellite 5105 s702 recently. Even though I installed XP (dual boot) on the MacBook Pro, I found myself using OS X on it more than XP. I plan to do the same (buy an iPhone) when my Athena dies. Micro$oft has lost control of their hardware vendors who have no interest in long term support/loyalty building and only interested in taking customers' money and run.
our dear athenas
"I am no expert but I think it is possible to port a memory kernel to the athena but this exceeds my capabilities and I am yet to find someone who can do it."
avengerpenguin,
Like sb else has written here, I also don't want to be misundersood as I have a lot of respect for all the cooks here, and especially for you as I have been following your work on win 6.5 ROM. If there were more guys here with so much enthusiasm, perhaps we wouldn't be moaning about windows mobile.
Anyway I still use a cooked rom so even with some minor bugs we can at least partly enjoy our athenas. I guess HTC has just forgotten about probably the most loyal user group - athena owners. I have had mine for almost 3 years and got used to it so much that it's a pain for me to think that there may come the time when I'll have to replace it.

[Q] Issuess with Dusk Ultimate 2 HD2 WM 23569 v6.0.0 CHT v2.0.0

I changed my hd2 rom to the one mentioned in the title. But it seems that im the only one having issues with it. I contacted grzegorz about these as well, but he told me the same thing. So... im hoping that maybe someone will share their ideas in fixing these.
- When i go to "landscape" view, all menus except "today" are "cut in half", so i cant see whole screen.
- When i turn on sounds on my device, vibrations turn on too! which i don't want too! Plus when i get the message vibration is so long that it only annoys me and i end up turning off sounds at all! so the vibbie dissapears too.
is there a registry entry to turn off vibrations at all? and where?
- Dusk was ment to be much faster than other official roms, whats strange, except more ram and lack of "not enough memory" notice, its slow as hell.
I realized that my SD card was broken so i exchanged it to other one. so yea.. its faster.. but still not even as fast as my first 1.66 rom i got with the mobile.
If i would know i would never change my rom...
- Whats most important, after changing to DUSK ULTIMATE my HD2 seems to NEVER go into HSDPA mode, which makes my internet UBER slow! its always in Edge or 3G which obviously sucks hard!
If any of you have any, just any ideas! please let me know! i really like the looks of the rom but... it seems its not working for me!
and yes, i already hard reseted my device several times. its no use.

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