Hi every body,
Sometimes I don't understand most of the terms you are using...
Is there anybody that can prepare a "sticky" thread to explain the terminology used...
For example:
What are
CU ROM
Clean ROM
IPL
SPL
HardSPL
SoftSPL (which should be performed first for a virgin prophet)
pagepool
EXTROM
WM6.0
WM6.1
WM7
????
I'm experienced in 3rd party SWs (especially GPS SW) but I could not take me to the ROM Flashers world because of these terminology used and not explained in even dummies thread..
have you tried reading the wiki?
Somethings are explained very good in the wiki, others aren´t.
These common terms and shortcuts would be really good for newbies.
I for example don´t know exactly what 'UC' means. It has something to do with the external ROM and the install routine, right?
Yes I read the WIKI
I know I wrote some terms that are explained in WIKI, intentionally..
Because the think that I required should look like a "abbreviations/accronyms" table..
The "one" that is planning to prepare that "table" should miss least possible number of terms..
Please guide newbies..
have you google it? and look for it?
UC = "User Capable". So this is with SD Config. allow users to install cabs from SD Card automatically, after flashing the ROM.
SPL =Second Program Loader . Bootloader.
HARDSPL and SOFTSPL -->read here. It is a sticky thread.
WM6 = if you know what WM5. You should now , what WM 6.And WM 6.1
WM6.1
and the rest. Search and search. Please dont be lazy. Even though you are lazy.
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1)If I flash my prophet with an OS-Update,that is made for another phone(for example Black Shadow Rom,made for Hermes),what will happen??Will it work,or i will have a nice bricked prophet?
2)If it doesn't work,what files i have to change to make it work..?I assume,that i have to change the drivers for the hardware... How can I do that?
3)How can i port Wizard Roms to Prophet?I believe that most WM6 roms,are from Wizard...but there isn't any guide on how to do it.....
4)Why other phones have 6-7 WM6 Roms,and for the Prophet are only 4(smart1,PDAViet,Trueneytral,PDAMobiz)??
5)Can I emulate the Rom i will cook-port,with the Microsoft Device Emulator?How?
If any of the questions were answered,pleased post the link to the answer,because i couldn't find it...(yes,i searched)....
Also,please don't point me to the prophet wiki,because i already read it,and there's little info or no info,about Rom cooking,Rom porting....
Thanks in advance,for your answers....
tonydeli7 said:
1)If I flash my prophet with an OS-Update,that is made for another phone(for example Black Shadow Rom,made for Hermes),what will happen??Will it work,or i will have a nice bricked prophet?
2)If it doesn't work,what files i have to change to make it work..?I assume,that i have to change the drivers for the hardware... How can I do that?
3)How can i port Wizard Roms to Prophet?I believe that most WM6 roms,are from Wizard...but there isn't any guide on how to do it.....
4)Why other phones have 6-7 WM6 Roms,and for the Prophet are only 4(smart1,PDAViet,Trueneytral,PDAMobiz)??
5)Can I emulate the Rom i will cook-port,with the Microsoft Device Emulator?How?
If any of the questions were answered,pleased post the link to the answer,because i couldn't find it...(yes,i searched)....
Also,please don't point me to the prophet wiki,because i already read it,and there's little info or no info,about Rom cooking,Rom porting....
Thanks in advance,for your answers....
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1. only OS update can't brick your phone, only wrong IPL/SPL upgrade/downgrades can
2. if the OS doesn't work (if you have taken it from a non prophet phone) its hard to make it work, yes it needs the correct drivers etc. also the size the the way the OS.nb file is writen can be important
3. wizard and prophet are close with hardware etc, but you need to change the drivers for the correct ones, i'll try and post a rom cooking guide at some time on here
4. lazy dev people (i'm not lazy I just didnt have time to make one...yet)
5. might be possible, I havent tried it yet
thanks for the answers mate!Waiting for your WM6 rom...
Not wanting to be rude/impatient/ ungrateful for all the wonderful work done for the Prophet....
But someone made touchflo possible on the wizard............ I also want one...... Waaaah
Check out the following link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313656
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IPL 2.13.0001
SPL 2.20.0001
Radio 2.47.21
ROM : 4.0.0.0.4PDAVIET
Dear All,
I have read so many treats for upgrading (New Method).
I am not expert in this.
I have upgraded my Neo form WM5.0 to WM6.0 ,now on Transformation 1.1.
As after reading so many treats seem so many user are seem to be confusing to use new upgrade metho.
As others are doing in a click need to admit on their understanding.
Can any one answer on some of my question ?
I am sure this will help in removing my as well as others doughts.
1, For Hard SPL.
After Hard SPL is my current operating (Transformation 1.1 WM6) will remains the same or only which colour screen will apear on it and I have to update withs some WM Rome.
2, If Hard SPL donsent affect the existing rom.
Then after doing Hard SPL i just need to restart my Neo --> connect to PC
Through Active Syn. and need to exectue ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4.exe from the folder with the ROM.Thats it new WM will be update on my Neo.
3, If I had Hard SPL once,
I read that once you have Hard SPL then no need to do it again,
does it mean once i have done Hard SPL then for any WM i just need to run WM rom that it no need for any Hard SPL.
I am dam sure all Great Gurus of this form is dong or else playing with all this upgradation process for WM 6/6.1.
All of us who are confuse on this new upgradation process will be really thankfull if some one just post some documents with sceeen shots for complete process form beging till the end to WM 6/6.1.
I know all those information are avilable on this form, also tried to read as much as i can but got confuse.
Seeking the answers form Gurus.
Thanks V Much in Advace.
mehfil said:
Dear All,
I have read so many treats for upgrading (New Method).
I am not expert in this.
I have upgraded my Neo form WM5.0 to WM6.0 ,now on Transformation 1.1.
As after reading so many treats seem so many user are seem to be confusing to use new upgrade metho.....
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Hey~~~
What do you mean?
Did you read the sticky post at the top before making this new thread?
Did you read my post 1 in my signature before shouting out?
post your reply to those thread that you thought confusing and let them(or me) know~~~~
read please !!!!!
Your questions are a bit difficult to understand, but hee.. not everybody is educated in the English language...
I think I did get your point, so I'm trying to answer your questions:
1) HardSPL doesn't affect your OS, it only replaces the standard SPL. This makes it possible to flash any ROM with the RUU instead of only the Vendors release. Keep in mind that this universal ROM has to be in a nk.nbf format.
2) I did answer that question in point 1: Yes after a succesfull installation of HardSPL (you can check the systeminfo at startup) the only thing you have to do when you want to upgrade is to put the nk.nbf of your desired ROM together with the RUU-package and run the RUU when your device is connected through ActiveSync.
3) HardSPL stays resident, that means that you only have to execute that step once. Keep in mind though that most official ROM's install a complete firmware-package: OS, Splash, GSM and SPL. If you install such a ROM the included SPL will overwrite HardSPL. No big deal, but you have to install it again when you want to flash a homecooked ROM again.
Thanks V much
Thanks Dear
for answering my Question.
This is surely help me in understanding new upgrade process.
If there’s any inconvenience caused to anyone then I am extremely sorry for this.
Thanks & Regards,
hello all,
The last days I was reading a lot of posts, in order to get more information about this device and the options that i can have using a cooked rom.
But still have some questions, so please be pacient with me.
I have an 7500 with WM5 original rom portuguese language.
I understood that if I want to upgrade with AP5beta I need first to update the radio and then the SPL ( the SPL version will depend on the cooked rom ).
I will not need to unblock it, because it works with different sims.
Also for what I understood once I use the SPL3.5 I can not use anymore original roms ( or downgrade ). Is this correct?
If I upgrade my 7500 with the original WM6 roms, can I later use cooked rom's?
Does anyone, that have used only original rom's, noticed any difference between WM5 and WM6?
thanks in advance for your help,
and keep doing this good job.
Hi Poppey
Welcome to the forum.
I noted your other post and it seems you are keen to play with your phone.
Sometimes when you do this , things go wrong , occasionally to the exent that it can't be fixed !
Most of the time , the mistakes have been made before, so if you are inexperienced, seek a friend to guide you or look and search on this forum before you do anything rash.
I would sugest first reading the wiki and asking questions showing you have done this first
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
After this I would suggest learning how to backup and restore data , before attempting to install the various program cabs.
When you are comfortable with this learn how to do a hard reset and reinstall your programs/data etc.
Next I would suggest that you find a copy of your original rom just in case you have to revert to it.
Next try an official Rom.
Along the way , I am sure you will make a mistake , but this is how most people learn how to fix their own problems.
By this time you will understand why you still have to use the athena unlocker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831 to install any of the newer cooked roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
This should give you hours of enjoyment/frustration and along the way you may even learn the pros and cons of the various roms which , in the end are very subjective and depend on personal preference.
Hope this helps
lakeman
poppey said:
hello all,
The last days I was reading a lot of posts, in order to get more information about this device and the options that i can have using a cooked rom.
But still have some questions, so please be pacient with me.
I have an 7500 with WM5 original rom portuguese language.
I understood that if I want to upgrade with AP5beta I need first to update the radio and then the SPL ( the SPL version will depend on the cooked rom ).
I will not need to unblock it, because it works with different sims.
Also for what I understood once I use the SPL3.5 I can not use anymore original roms ( or downgrade ). Is this correct?
If I upgrade my 7500 with the original WM6 roms, can I later use cooked rom's?
Does anyone, that have used only original rom's, noticed any difference between WM5 and WM6?
thanks in advance for your help,
and keep doing this good job.
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You can find some other info in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2339126&postcount=3 post....
Hi lakeman,
Thanks for your prompt answer.
Thats exactly what I need, a point of start.
Lets go reading and reading again...
regards,
Pedro
Hi sergiopi,
also thanks for your prompt answer.
Ok, I understand that once I upgrade with a cooked rom based on SPL3.5 I can't go back to original rom's, neither to rom's using SPL1.2
So it means that is a "one go direction".
But what about upgrade to original WM6 and then if I want go to cooked rom's. Is that posible?
Sorry but I don't have this clear after reading your links.
Probably the best to do is going directly to an original rom, but of course if doing that doesn't give me the option of using cooked rom's I must be sure on what direction I must go.
thanks,
No problem. Upgrade your ATHENA to official WM6 and AFTER you can choose to install the Athena WRAPPER and the cooked ROMs!
First post and I'm pretty new to flashing, so am a bit nervous about it. I've done extensive reading on this forum and have got to confess to some confusion - so please be patient with me!
First of all, I'd like to understand what USPL, SSPL and HARDSPL are? I think I read an explanation somewhere, but can't find it anymore.
I have managed to get HARDSPL 1.16 onto my phone and now that WM6.1 is out, I'd like to flash that version with the new HTC SSPL. Can someone please explain the steps I need to follow and how do I remove HARDSPL?
Thanks in advance for the patience!
sorry as this has been discussed on forum but i have had dumped my old rom wm5 from my new gene..and i want to downgrade to it from sumit pro user rom...plz tell me if any danger and how can i do it>help
no one have time to reply me?plz expert help this poor guy....
Even though you have dumped this ROM urself, check the ROM with HTC RIE that it doesn't have the IPL, SPL and GSM parts. If any of these present, delete them and save the ROM. This will make the ROM safe for flashing.
BUt there is one more concern. I dont know whether the Orefkov or Olipro's SPL allows WM 5 flashing. Thats something you'll have to find out from someone else.