Is there any way to increase the 47 MB of Program memory by using some of the Storage memory?
I love using Opera, but my device is constantly running out of memory. 47 MB of RAM just isn't enough for Opera.
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or, close programs you arent using. no way opera uses 20MB+ of program memory (and if it does, dump it)
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Hi guys,
I have a serious doubt that s740 has 256MB. I think that OS only thinks that way. These are the arguments for my doubt :
1. I have an application that shows message box with question before it closes. Usually when OS notices that system is low on memory it starts to close applications. Sometimes while this application is in background, message box pops up (not because I tried to close it, OS obviously thinks it is low on memory)
2. I have never seen significantly less than 100MB of free RAM in any applications that shows that information
3. I created an application that loads some text files into a memory. I started it when my device was close to a 100MB of free RAM. Very soon I got OutOfMemoryException although I had 100MB of RAM left!!
4. Once I bought 32GB SD card from eBay. After a test I figure it out that card was 4GB although it appeared to any PC it was 32GB. I saw on the some forums that I was not the only one with that problem. Many face the same when buying SD card from eBay and China. Point of this...it is possible to alter memory controller in order to trick the system.
If there is anyone who saw in any task manager or something less than 100MB of free RAM, please report it here. Also if you know some way we can be sure that there really is 256MB of RAM on our devices please let us know.
I got less than 100MB free RAM ...
Yep, me too
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ombre33 said:
Yep, me too
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Actually you don't.
On your screendump you can see clearly "0.12G" (about 120 MB) free from a totall of 0.18G
peseta said:
Actually you don't.
On your screendump you can see clearly "0.12G" (about 120 MB) free from a totall of 0.18G
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Actually, I do.
.12G is used, 61mb free, which comes to a total of .18G
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Not wanting to nitpick (as the issue mentioned at the start is the question if there's really the advertised 256 MB RAM, which actually appears to be 187 MB), but you're reading the Resco System Info incorrectly.
As you can see on your screendump, your 16 GB (14.83G) storage card is almost full (red bar, 97%) with only about "0.40G" available. This is shown on the right side, just like the ".12G" or about 120 MB.
Whoops, you're right. My bad. I'd suspect that the "missing" mbs are taken up by the os itself? either way, I have yet to run into an out of memory error on this device, and i have constantly up to 5 progs running in the background...
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Not wanting to nitpick (as the issue mentioned at the start is the question if there's really the advertised 256 MB RAM, which actually appears to be 187 MB), but you're reading the Resco System Info incorrectly.
As you can see on your screendump, your 16 GB (14.83G) storage card is almost full (red bar, 97%) with only about "0.40G" available. This is shown on the right side, just like the ".12G" or about 120 MB.
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callah said:
1. I have an application that shows message box with question before it closes. Usually when OS notices that system is low on memory it starts to close applications. Sometimes while this application is in background, message box pops up (not because I tried to close it, OS obviously thinks it is low on memory)
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The way OS handles automatic closing of application is rather complicated and does not depend on free memory only.
callah said:
3. I created an application that loads some text files into a memory. I started it when my device was close to a 100MB of free RAM. Very soon I got OutOfMemoryException although I had 100MB of RAM left!!
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Windows Mobile 6.1 is still based on Windows CE 5 core, which allows 32MB of memory per process (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_ce#Versions). Bear in mind that you are also using .NET, which in itself is a bit memory-hungry.
All-in-all I think that device has as much memory as advertised and see no reason why it shouldn't.
BTW my s740 has an 128MB of RAM ('not for sale' version)
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CPU Frequency
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Program memory
Memory in use
So maybe some of the Roses can be with 128MB only
...When I used my s710 (64MB of RAM) I had a free RAM value about 10MB. Now my s740 with 128MB of RAM but free RAM value still about 10MB. Very very strange
Does anyone knows how to reclaim more memory from the phone ?
It is using too much memory without any program running.
This may be obvious, but did you try removing programs from /Windows/Startup?
The best way would be for us to have a cooked rom!
Move IE caché to Storage Card?
Dodge0069 said:
This may be obvious, but did you try removing programs from /Windows/Startup?
The best way would be for us to have a cooked rom!
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As known, there are two memory areas: Storage and Program.
You can save storage memory by installing on Storage Card as many apps as you can.
You can save program memory soft resetting or, less radical, by using a program to liberate memory as MemMaid or sktools.
Don't forget to clean all the cachés from I Explorer, Google Maps, and so on.
By the way, on former devices I was able to move the I Explorer caché to the storage card using MemMaid or Sktools, but I can't on TG01
Any Idea?
I assume he was talking about RAM (Program Memory).
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I assume he was talking about RAM (Program Memory).
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Yes RAM, I was trying to install Manila 2.1.
But thanks to you all for your reply.
Yeh little ram is big problem fir us all
Try rom in my signature FFBOY's 6.1, 110mb free at boot clean, about 70mb with sense installed. Also phone is faster than ever!
With this ROM
the ROM(*) with the dymanic page files seem to be consistantly fast, even though the free ram figures are not the highest, the performance of the device seems good
(*I'm using one of Novembre5's ROMs)
Could some one help me out in deleting the unimportant folders and files frm phone memory.
in my advace task killer it shows very less space free i.e around 220mb
could some one guide me this context.
thanks
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Firstly, task managers are a bad idea on android.. Its linux based so manages its memory quite well.if you must use something to catch rogue apps that ready to much cpu then try watchdog lite...
Second your taskmanager is showing you free memory not disk space..
220mb is lot of unused and wasted memory that you've paid for, and not use! Its designed to be used to store processes that you use a lot, to keep ready to use. In other words it makes them work faster..
Thirdly deleting folders will not free up memory, but disk space.
The streak has 2gb of internal storage space, plus the ,usually, 16gb of sdcard..
if you use a filemanager it will show you what storage space you have.
hey guys,
I did find some threads about my questions but i was still confused.
i used to have to iphone 3gs which had 256mb ram..
so no matter even if i filled my 3gs full 16gb it still had 256mb ram to work with,..
so my question is when i am installing apps in htc aria am i using up free rom or ram???
and how do i install live wallpapers? is it just a gif file or u u have to install them just like an app ?
Thanks
ahm12 said:
hey guys,
I did find some threads about my questions but i was still confused.
i used to have to iphone 3gs which had 256mb ram..
so no matter even if i filled my 3gs full 16gb it still had 256mb ram to work with,..
so my question is when i am installing apps in htc aria am i using up free rom or ram???
and how do i install live wallpapers? is it just a gif file or u u have to install them just like an app ?
Thanks
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internal memory != ram
sd card memory != ram
in other words, when you install apps they are not taking up your RAM, they are taking up your internal memory, and if you have it configured they are taking up your sd card memory.
what ROM are you running?
They are typically apk files...you can find them all over the market. But i don't think stock allows LWPs.
ahm12 said:
hey guys,
I did find some threads about my questions but i was still confused.
i used to have to iphone 3gs which had 256mb ram..
so no matter even if i filled my 3gs full 16gb it still had 256mb ram to work with,..
Thanks
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to break down the previous post, Your aria works the exact same way as your iphone in regards to internal storage/memory usage.
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i m running liberated froyo 008..
with this rom installed i get roughly 160 mb free internal storage.
does that mean my phone has 160 mb ram to work with or in the background i do have 384 mb ram??
what i am not able to understand is, in iphone 3gs there is a separate dedicated 256 mb ram to process application, while 16gb internal memory is separate which has nothing to do with ram.
while in aria its look like internal memory and ram are not different is that true??
because installing more apps is just slowing it down..
i know i can install apps on sd card, but when 5 or 6 apps are running in the backgorund aria starts lagging i have to use task manager to kill tasks which makes it lag free..
ahm12 said:
i m running liberated froyo 008..
with this rom installed i get roughly 160 mb free internal storage.
does that mean my phone has 160 mb ram to work with or in the background i do have 384 mb ram??
what i am not able to understand is, in iphone 3gs there is a separate dedicated 256 mb ram to process application, while 16gb internal memory is separate which has nothing to do with ram.
while in aria its look like internal memory and ram are not different is that true??
because installing more apps is just slowing it down..
i know i can install apps on sd card, but when 5 or 6 apps are running in the backgorund aria starts lagging i have to use task manager to kill tasks which makes it lag free..
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No. internal memory is different from system ram. The aria has very little internal memory, which is where your apps go, this is what you're seeing. The system has its own separate ram.
EDIT: you can see internal memory by going into your application manager. You can see your system memory by going into your running services settings.
EDIT 2: The more apps you install the higher chance you have of having more apps running, which does use system memory.
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Task killers are generally bad. Search for task managers like watchdog lite. You can run a benchmark test such as Quadrant Standard to check your phone's performance. I'm running CM7 overclocked at 806 and my score ranges from 990-1040, just to give you a reference range.
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Task killers are generally bad. Search for task managers like watchdog lite. You can run a benchmark test such as Quadrant Standard to check your phone's performance. I'm running CM7 overclocked at 806 and my score ranges from 990-1040, just to give you a reference range.
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Did the benchmark programs get updated to support 2.3? if they didn't, your scores are probably not accurate.
Quadrant Standard is Gingerbread compatible per the dev.
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Task manager shows 806 mb of used memory and only 211 mb free. Have a brand new flyer and installed a few apps. Any idea how to free up more internal memory?
If you're comfortable with it, going to a custom ROM will almost always improve memory usage and system speed. I recommend leedroid.
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Big_O said:
Task manager shows 806 mb of used memory and only 211 mb free. Have a brand new flyer and installed a few apps. Any idea how to free up more internal memory?
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That is a very reasonable usage of RAM memory, its not application storage.
Linux and Android attempt to maximize memory usage while keeping a certain amount free for program loading and switching. It's normal for Android to keep RAM about 75% full and intentional. That way when one of your app bits needs to run, its already in fast memory and does not need to be loaded. So you can kill apps all you want and android will just happily keep reloading them in the background and refilling that memory. That's why task killers generally ware not needed and can often slow things down by unnecessarily killing tasks that the OS will just start up again.