I know dcd a ripped a more recent radio from the Bell release... but I'm wondering... would this radio provide any benefit to Verizon users seeing as it came from a Verizon ROM? Would even work without the new PRI?
EDIT:
3.37.75 Radio: http://lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/titan/radios/Titan Radio ROM 3.37.75.rar THANKS DCD!
MIRROR: http://dcd1182.n715dp.com/index.php?dir=titan/radios/&download=Titan+Radio+ROM+3.37.75.rar
Zenoran said:
I know dcd a ripped a more recent radio from the Bell release... but I'm wondering... would this radio provide any benefit to Verizon users seeing as it came from a Verizon ROM? Would even work without the new PRI?
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There is absolutely nothing in a radio ROM that ties it to a carrier or optimizes it for a carrier in any way over any other radio ROM.
I will post 3.37.75 here anyways.
dcd1182 said:
There is absolutely nothing in a radio ROM that ties it to a carrier or optimizes it for a carrier in any way over any other radio ROM.
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so is there a benefit to installing the latest and greatest radio?
thanks for all the hard work DCD
dcd1182 said:
There is absolutely nothing in a radio ROM that ties it to a carrier or optimizes it for a carrier in any way over any other radio ROM.
I will post 3.37.75 here anyways.
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ya... i realize there is nothing specific to the carrier but it would stand to reason that the carrier did their testing based on that specific release so it could possibly have the best results on their carrier?
I dunno.. I'm just wondering ... will try the radio you posted tho appreciate it!
I have noticed very little if any difference in signal strength between alltels stock radio and the newest i put on. Going to the new one however did enhance the ability of my gps with alltel stock radio i wasn't able to get anything in my office now i works pretty well.
So is this Radio ROM decoupled from the VZW ROM update so I can flash it and still keep the DCD 3.2.6 ROM that I already have?
I am on 3.42.50 but am willing to try this Radio ROM to see if there is any difference for VZW users but don't want to screw my phone up with VZW crap that turns off my GPS and Data and all that.
Yea, I am asking the same question: I know what dcd said earlier in this thread but I think it need reiterating: Is installing this radio going to screw up anything for those of us using dcd's ROM?
Also, I'm using 3.42.50; and this is 3.37.75... Isn't this a step backward (as far as version numbers go)? So what would be the difference?
P.S. The 3.42.50 radio rom, who/where was that originally pulled from?
Chimp (Tom)
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Yea, I am asking the same question: I know what dcd said earlier in this thread but I think it need reiterating: Is installing this radio going to screw up anything for those of us using dcd's ROM?
Also, I'm using 3.42.50; and this is 3.37.75... Isn't this a step backward (as far as version numbers go)? So what would be the difference?
P.S. The 3.42.50 radio rom, who/where was that originally pulled from?
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i believe it was ripped from altel, but i read that radios are NOT carrier specfic
Just installing the 3.37.75 radio without the PRI won't screw anything up.
The 3.42.50 radio came from the Bell Vogue Rom.
Radios are not carrier specific.
Ok here is my question. Who controls the version numbers? Do all the radio ROMs come from HTC or do the carriers themselves edit them (not to be carrier specific, just in general..) then publish them?
I guess I just want to know if they all follow the same version tree so that 3.37.75 isn't actually newer than 3.42.40/50, but we can't tell since the # is lower.
I am curious too Why would VZW release an outdated radio.....
mkenny2 said:
I am curious too Why would VZW release an outdated radio.....
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My guess is that when they started testing this ROM internally, that is the radio which was available.
OK, so if anyone tries this new 3.37.75 radio with the dcd ROM please post your results... GPS still run? Any faster? Better signal strength? etc etc etc
Chimp (Tom)
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OK, so if anyone tries this new 3.37.75 radio with the dcd ROM please post your results... GPS still run? Any faster? Better signal strength? etc etc etc
Chimp (Tom)
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is there a better way to test signal strength other than using the voice command and asking what its signal strength is?
mkenny2 said:
I am curious too Why would VZW release an outdated radio.....
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its not an outdated radio - you cant compare the numbers of the radio from one carrier with the numbers of another radio from another carrier since all carriers arent using the same radios (even though they may be compatible with different networks)
For example, the XV6900 is newer than the XV6800 but it is far from being better and in fact has a crappier processor.
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For example, the XV6900 is newer than the XV6800 but it is far from being better and in fact has a crappier processor.
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last I heard they shared the same msm7500 series processor. with equal specs. 6900 (touch) just had twice the ram.
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OK, so if anyone tries this new 3.37.75 radio with the dcd ROM please post your results... GPS still run? Any faster? Better signal strength? etc etc etc
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I'm using it.. works fine... I was having probs with the new one switching to 1x mode and sticking there from text messages but haven't seen it yet on this one... all radios are fairly similar I doubt you can really tell too much of a difference unless u saw something bad happening with one of them.
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its not an outdated radio - you cant compare the numbers of the radio from one carrier with the numbers of another radio from another carrier since all carriers arent using the same radios (even though they may be compatible with different networks)
For example, the XV6900 is newer than the XV6800 but it is far from being better and in fact has a crappier processor.
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Same processor more RAM how it is crappier? You might wanna check your facts before posting.
SimpTheChimp said:
OK, so if anyone tries this new 3.37.75 radio with the dcd ROM please post your results... GPS still run? Any faster? Better signal strength? etc etc etc
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So Radio 3.37.75 seems in some ways more stable than 3.42.50 so I wonder about the version numbering. One real improvement is in bluetooth. With radio 3.42.50 I can't use the serial profile with a GPS receiver and headset profile at the same time. The headset profile disconnects the serial profile with in 30 - 45 seconds and if the connection recovers it's only for short bursts. With the new radio both my GPS and headset work great in parallel.
I'm also noticing faster GPS response especially on cold start. Either way I'm sticking with 3.37.75 for now over 3.42.50.
Thanks
Scott
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Same processor more RAM how it is crappier? You might wanna check your facts before posting.
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My bad - basing info off of the sales rep in local VZ store - but I should have known better not to trust those guys (and gals)
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I'm new to all of this and am trying to fix my ATT 8525. The problem is that I have horrible reception. Im in a 3g area but during calls people cant hear me and they hear crackling. I determined that on Edge vs 3g it works better...so I installed a hack that allows me to select the Band and force it to stay on edge. That helped a ton...but still not even nearly as good as my friends older phones or my sister's Treo 685 (?).
SO from reading it seems I need to update the radio? Its currently 1.40.30.00
Exactly what is the process to do this? I've read posts here and am a bit confused and am worried Ill mess it up...its still under warranty as its only a couple weeks old. can someone help me...in non tech terms, the process I need to follow.
Thanks!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
maybe
so...
SO is the order of install:
HardSPL
then the radio update, with Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3?
Or is there a better, safer way?
What does, "You can now do radio only upgrades in Bootloaders other than SPL 1.04." mean? DO I have to install a bootloader or is it already installed from att and how do I check?
Sorry for all the questions - this is all new to me.
patches123 said:
SO is the order of install:
HardSPL
then the radio update, with Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3?
Or is there a better, safer way?
What does, "You can now do radio only upgrades in Bootloaders other than SPL 1.04." mean? DO I have to install a bootloader or is it already installed from att and how do I check?
Sorry for all the questions - this is all new to me.
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HardSPL will not make flashing the radio safer. HardSPL makes your phone *superCID so that you may flash ANY ROM (not radio or radio bootloader) even if the CID is different. So if your radio and radio bootloader are not locked down, anytime you flash a rom that includes the radio and radioBL, they will be upgraded along with it. Then you would have to do radio-only upgrades; if they are even necessary.
I would check the hermes wiki for information on flashing radio upgrades.
Personally, if the reception stinks in your area, I don't think flashing the ROM will make it any better. The cingular radio roms are developed by HTC for Cingular. Any differences in RF, imho, would be strictly due to environmental, geographical and cellular system factors. All this talk about better battery life and RF gains in newer radios is purely subjective and comes down to a he-said she-said situation. However, if Cingular has a new WM6 version out with a new radio included; you may as well flash it as it may help you out. I am not sure, but is the new Cingular rom an official final release? Or just a leak/test version?
I dont think its been officially released yet. Well, I am not going to worry about doing it now if the consenus is that reception will not be improved. Funny thing is that reception in my area is great...its this phone. All my friends and family have ATT and absolutely no problems. I have used it in 3 different major cities in different parts of the US and have the same problem in all. I love this 8525 for everything but phone calls. ATT is sending me a new one this week and I am hoping its better...otherwise I might have to get a different phone completely.
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HardSPL will not make flashing the radio safer.
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This is not actually true. HardSPL also prevents the IPL/SPL areas from being accidentally overwritten. It does protect you in the event that the file you are trying to flash is not a good file.
What appears to be the vogue 2.13.00 radio packaged for titan has showed up on the xda ftp and seems to be working for titan users. I created this thread to move conversation here.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Titan/Radio_Roms/titan_2.13_CDMA.rar
Mods, some conversation begins at post #284 on my kitchen thread if you want to move here.
It also would appear they posted a 1.59 and another 1.47 radio rar file. As to my knowledge the 1.47 was the lastest radio put out by HTC for the Titan.
How about a direct link to the new radio?
JimSmith94 said:
How about a direct link to the new radio?
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Although some say it working on their Titan, we don't know if this is an actual update for the Titan. I would be very careful and wait to get more information before using this radio.
Using it on my Titan and loving it havent noticed any problems as of yet but will post anything I find.
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It also would appear they posted a 1.59 and another 1.47 radio rar file. As to my knowledge the 1.47 was the lastest radio put out by HTC for the Titan.
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1.32.00 was released in sprint titan ship rom 2.09
1.40.00 was released in alltel titan ship rom 2.14
1.47.00 was released in sprint titan ship rom 2.16
1.47.01 was released in sprint titan ship rom 2.17
1.59.10 was released in bell vogue ship rom 1.17
2.13.00 was released in sprint vogue ship rom 1.12
Dam dcd u are just a plethora of information.
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1.32.00 was released in sprint titan ship rom 2.09
1.40.00 was released in alltel titan ship rom 2.14
1.47.00 was released in sprint titan ship rom 2.16
1.47.01 was released in sprint titan ship rom 2.17
1.59.10 was released in bell vogue ship rom 1.17
2.13.00 was released in sprint vogue ship rom 1.12
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So it basically sounds like the Sprint Vogue 2.13 radio happens to work (as far as we can tell) on the Titan.
NexVision...you mentioned it seemed to be faster? How about the signal strength?
dalvarez7 said:
So it basically sounds like the Sprint Vogue 2.13 radio happens to work (as far as we can tell) on the Titan.
NexVision...you mentioned it seemed to be faster? How about the signal strength?
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Well based on the signal bars on the phone I have gone from 1 to 2 bars in my store to a full signal. Does that mean better signal well I have never been one to go by the bars. Will know more tonight when I go to my girls as my phone loses service the second I walk into her house almost convinced she has a jammer to keep me from being pulled away.
Will know more tonight when I go to my girls as my phone loses service the second I walk into her house almost convinced she has a jammer to keep me from being pulled away.
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hahhahaha that would be hilarious...
is this sprint only? or wil it work for verizon too?
Maybe its just me being niave, but I'm not at all surprised by this, the Mogul and the Touch are basically the same hardware as far as the radio is concerned:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=803&id2=771
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Maybe its just me being niave, but I'm not at all surprised by this, the Mogul and the Touch are basically the same hardware as far as the radio is concerned:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=803&id2=771
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If thats the case I wonder if they just called the latest Radio for the Vogue 2.13 which is really the same as the Titan 1.47? You would think that if they were so similar HTC would use the same radio.
Though.. with the Touch not having Wifi, would be interested to know if WiFi still works on the Mogul with this Radio version...
Then if it disables Wifi on the Mogul... can you use a mogul radio on a touch to get Wifi.... hurmm....
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Though.. with the Touch not having Wifi, would be interested to know if WiFi still works on the Mogul with this Radio version...
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hmm, thought-provoking
Then if it disables Wifi on the Mogul... can you use a mogul radio on a touch to get Wifi.... hurmm....
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if the Touch doesn't have the hardware to do Wi-Fi (as in the radio doesn't support 802.11), then no software can make it happen
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is this sprint only? or wil it work for verizon too?
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I too am interested to know this, thanks.
just tried it, BUT after the "upgrade" my phone only connects to the Internet at 1X. anyone else having this or similar problems??
I just flashed this to my verizon xv6800. So far I can send and recieve calls and WIFI works. So it looks good for verizon at the moment. I'll pair it with my car (2008 honda accord) and see what the bluetooth performance is like. Cross your fingers for me.
My report (loaded on XV6800):
Phone- Sound is excellent. Fixes problem of not being able to answer phone after 1.40 radio install.
Bluetooth- works fine.
Wifi- works fine, although the hard button on the side of the device no longer works. Connect/disconnect through comm manager is fine. May try another hard reset to see if this is fixable. A small sacrifice vs. the increase in EVDO speed.
Evdo speed 868kbps. This is a 33% increase over prior. Getting an extra bar in most locations.
I'm sold.
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Wifi- works fine, although the hard button on the side of the device no longer works.
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weird, you guys have a button?
went 2.13.00 and my ppc-6800 wifi still working fine using the switch.
My 8525 is running radio ver 1.54.07.00 and I noticed that my friends tilt gets 3G connections in places my hermes doesn't. Is there a newer rom with better 3g reception?
not a newer on for hermes...there is a 1.56 from trinity that some hermes users liked (look at it's thread info). Sometimes going back to 1.48 or 1.47 could be better than 1.54 depending on your location & carrier?
Best thing to do is say "I live >insert country here< & am using >insert carrier here<... Whats the best radio for me?". Radios differ country to country and carrier to carrier.. What works fine for me here in Oz won't help you in say Texas... Until ALL carriers use the latest radios (yeah right, I'll be able to jump off a cliff, grow wings spontaneously and fly to safety 1st) then someone saying this is best for you might not be true and could also harm your Hermes..
More Info always better for us trying to help...
Cheers...
I am in California, USA and on AT&T/Cingular.
Hmm had confused to about this radio version, is there any standard official release such a documentation that stated in which frequency does all those radio intended suitable for.
I had try 1.47.30.10 (my previous 1.47.0.10), then 11.56.70.11, but not so sure about the last and lately i fall back to 1.47.30.10. Why? Cause in latest Dopod 838 Pro official/shipped ROM (got from zocters's 4shared archive, thanks Mas), use this version. Play safely
So I should try the 1.56 one? Also, what rom is good these days? I currently am using CRC.
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So I should try the 1.56 one? Also, what rom is good these days? I currently am using CRC.
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looks like from signatures I've seen, california is using 1.48 & 1.54 (read the 1.56 thread & see if u want to try that one).
for wm6.1 roms: CRC, DVH, & PDACorner are recommended! But, read their threads for details...
For those wanting to upgrade only their radio I have uploaded the following RUU packages:
Radio 1.02.25.31 (Cingular)
Radio 1.02.25.19 (HTC)
Radio 1.02.25.11 (HTC)
Radio 1.01.25.16 (Cingular)
Each of the packages already contains an ROM updater which does not erase your phone, so your operating system and settings will remain intact.
Note: You need to have HardSPL before attempting to flash these!
Remember that flashing anything on your phone is always at your own risk.
I have updated my HTC Touch Pro to from Radio 1.02.25.19 to Radio 1.02.25.31 without any problems.
Update 1: Added Cingular Radio 1.01.25.16
THANK YOU now i try in my diamond
Do these radios work also on Diamond ?
They will not flash in your Diamond if your Diamond radio is security locked.
I would advise against flashing Raphael radio's in your Diamond, there is no reason to.
It could work because the chipset is the same, but why take the chance to brick your phone by flashing a radio which is not meant for it.
Do you see any improvement with .31 radio?
Tested it for about an hour or so now.
Can't say I noticed any difference, but I only tested it around the house. Reception around here is generally very bad and it seems to hold up nicely, so its definitely not worse then the previous radio.
GPRS, EDGE and HSPDA seem to work fine.
What about the Cingular one..? Anyone try this in the US to see if the 3g is now present..?
i flashed my touch pro with .31 and it went perfectly. In fact my US AT&T shows G. Not sure if that is the same as 3G but i am also at work where i have bad reception so that may play into it
as with the roms thread, the info is in the wiki pages already.
Although do keep discussion on the radio performance open
3g radio work in North America?
I bought the Diamond in the UK and haven't gotten anything but EDGE. Will any of the RADIO updates address this or is it a hardware problem ?
mallman said:
i flashed my touch pro with .31 and it went perfectly. In fact my US AT&T shows G. Not sure if that is the same as 3G but i am also at work where i have bad reception so that may play into it
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I believe it should be showing and H icon..
darkvoid said:
Tested it for about an hour or so now.
Can't say I noticed any difference, but I only tested it around the house. Reception around here is generally very bad and it seems to hold up nicely, so its definitely not worse then the previous radio.
GPRS, EDGE and HSPDA seem to work fine.
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Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
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Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
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That's something I would like to know as well...
gatordent said:
Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
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Nope, I'm in Europe (The Netherlands).
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I believe it should be showing and H icon..
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not in USA i dont think. my last 3g phone only showed 3g
i've tried to flash radio and it went 100% in 5 seconds. phone started but no radi was updated. any thoughts?
H is in fact in US...
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not in USA i dont think. my last 3g phone only showed 3g
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My TyTN II would show 3G most of the time in the Chicago area. It would switch to H whenever it was downloading. That's the ONLY THING I miss having now that I got the TP...Edge is too terribly slow to do anything but update the weather and my RSS feeds off hours (like at 3AM).
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Can canadians use these 3g radio updates? I have a UK phone and i'm only getting EDGE right now
So what was decided about Diamond radios? I know the discussion was started but was there a conclusion? I like the radio on my diamond much better than .19 on the Pro.
TIA
Hey mixmaven, go read the other raphael radio thread, this was answered already!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2568960&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2568960&postcount=35
-me
mixmaven said:
So what was decided about Diamond radios? I know the discussion was started but was there a conclusion? I like the radio on my diamond much better than .19 on the Pro.
TIA
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Okay, so I'm on the T-Mobile USA network. I've had a Dash 3G for a long time, and I've recently picked up an HD2. My Dash 3G gets full bars in my house, no matter where I am. But when I put the SIM card in the HD2, I'm lucky if I get any service at all. If I so much as LOOK at it the wrong way, the signal dies completely.
Is there a definitive way of increasing the antenna reception, or is the HD2 just like this all the time? Or is it just my phone? Is there a specific radio people have tried that have improved reception (I'm in Utah, if that makes a difference)?
Sorry, I'm still way new to all this flashing and stuff.
Hi,
I've noticed that with the HD2, antenna reception in my area was very poor until I upgraded the radio to 2.14... Then again, I mainly use the phone with Android and not WinMo. I suggest trying to upgrade the ROM (Stock if you don't wanna mess with HSPL) through the normal channels (HTC upgrade or Tmous upgrades) and seeing if that works for you. Otherwise if you're feeling adventurous, there are tons of guides to flash HardSPL which permits you to upgrade your radio only.
Here is the link to the HSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Here is the link to the radio ROM thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
And finally, here is the Tmous flashing procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
Good luck!
karendar said:
Hi,
I've noticed that with the HD2, antenna reception in my area was very poor until I upgraded the radio to 2.14... Then again, I mainly use the phone with Android and not WinMo. I suggest trying to upgrade the ROM (Stock if you don't wanna mess with HSPL) through the normal channels (HTC upgrade or Tmous upgrades) and seeing if that works for you. Otherwise if you're feeling adventurous, there are tons of guides to flash HardSPL which permits you to upgrade your radio only.
Here is the link to the HSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Here is the link to the radio ROM thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
And finally, here is the Tmous flashing procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
Good luck!
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Excellent, thank you for this.
I have one other question, though -- What's the difference between the sections in that radio thread? We've got 2.xx stuff, and then we've got 15.xx stuff. Can I flash one each at a time, or only one?