Okay, so I'm on the T-Mobile USA network. I've had a Dash 3G for a long time, and I've recently picked up an HD2. My Dash 3G gets full bars in my house, no matter where I am. But when I put the SIM card in the HD2, I'm lucky if I get any service at all. If I so much as LOOK at it the wrong way, the signal dies completely.
Is there a definitive way of increasing the antenna reception, or is the HD2 just like this all the time? Or is it just my phone? Is there a specific radio people have tried that have improved reception (I'm in Utah, if that makes a difference)?
Sorry, I'm still way new to all this flashing and stuff.
Hi,
I've noticed that with the HD2, antenna reception in my area was very poor until I upgraded the radio to 2.14... Then again, I mainly use the phone with Android and not WinMo. I suggest trying to upgrade the ROM (Stock if you don't wanna mess with HSPL) through the normal channels (HTC upgrade or Tmous upgrades) and seeing if that works for you. Otherwise if you're feeling adventurous, there are tons of guides to flash HardSPL which permits you to upgrade your radio only.
Here is the link to the HSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Here is the link to the radio ROM thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
And finally, here is the Tmous flashing procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
Good luck!
karendar said:
Hi,
I've noticed that with the HD2, antenna reception in my area was very poor until I upgraded the radio to 2.14... Then again, I mainly use the phone with Android and not WinMo. I suggest trying to upgrade the ROM (Stock if you don't wanna mess with HSPL) through the normal channels (HTC upgrade or Tmous upgrades) and seeing if that works for you. Otherwise if you're feeling adventurous, there are tons of guides to flash HardSPL which permits you to upgrade your radio only.
Here is the link to the HSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Here is the link to the radio ROM thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
And finally, here is the Tmous flashing procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
Good luck!
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Excellent, thank you for this.
I have one other question, though -- What's the difference between the sections in that radio thread? We've got 2.xx stuff, and then we've got 15.xx stuff. Can I flash one each at a time, or only one?
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I'm new to all of this and am trying to fix my ATT 8525. The problem is that I have horrible reception. Im in a 3g area but during calls people cant hear me and they hear crackling. I determined that on Edge vs 3g it works better...so I installed a hack that allows me to select the Band and force it to stay on edge. That helped a ton...but still not even nearly as good as my friends older phones or my sister's Treo 685 (?).
SO from reading it seems I need to update the radio? Its currently 1.40.30.00
Exactly what is the process to do this? I've read posts here and am a bit confused and am worried Ill mess it up...its still under warranty as its only a couple weeks old. can someone help me...in non tech terms, the process I need to follow.
Thanks!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
maybe
so...
SO is the order of install:
HardSPL
then the radio update, with Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3?
Or is there a better, safer way?
What does, "You can now do radio only upgrades in Bootloaders other than SPL 1.04." mean? DO I have to install a bootloader or is it already installed from att and how do I check?
Sorry for all the questions - this is all new to me.
patches123 said:
SO is the order of install:
HardSPL
then the radio update, with Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3?
Or is there a better, safer way?
What does, "You can now do radio only upgrades in Bootloaders other than SPL 1.04." mean? DO I have to install a bootloader or is it already installed from att and how do I check?
Sorry for all the questions - this is all new to me.
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HardSPL will not make flashing the radio safer. HardSPL makes your phone *superCID so that you may flash ANY ROM (not radio or radio bootloader) even if the CID is different. So if your radio and radio bootloader are not locked down, anytime you flash a rom that includes the radio and radioBL, they will be upgraded along with it. Then you would have to do radio-only upgrades; if they are even necessary.
I would check the hermes wiki for information on flashing radio upgrades.
Personally, if the reception stinks in your area, I don't think flashing the ROM will make it any better. The cingular radio roms are developed by HTC for Cingular. Any differences in RF, imho, would be strictly due to environmental, geographical and cellular system factors. All this talk about better battery life and RF gains in newer radios is purely subjective and comes down to a he-said she-said situation. However, if Cingular has a new WM6 version out with a new radio included; you may as well flash it as it may help you out. I am not sure, but is the new Cingular rom an official final release? Or just a leak/test version?
I dont think its been officially released yet. Well, I am not going to worry about doing it now if the consenus is that reception will not be improved. Funny thing is that reception in my area is great...its this phone. All my friends and family have ATT and absolutely no problems. I have used it in 3 different major cities in different parts of the US and have the same problem in all. I love this 8525 for everything but phone calls. ATT is sending me a new one this week and I am hoping its better...otherwise I might have to get a different phone completely.
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HardSPL will not make flashing the radio safer.
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This is not actually true. HardSPL also prevents the IPL/SPL areas from being accidentally overwritten. It does protect you in the event that the file you are trying to flash is not a good file.
Hi every one,
i've got my hermes radio to 1.54.30.10 month ago. and i've just seen a Seniour member started a thread warning that the 1.54 series are unstable....
i haven't met any problems till now.. i wanna know if it's possible for me to downgrade my radio to 1.47 or 1.38?
I'm no expert, but I went from 1.54.30.10 to the official 1.54.07.00. Never tried going lower.
I just downgraded to 1.43 due to problems with 1.54.30.10 - start loosing signal recently
check this
Hi
may be this link will help u .... Just to have an idea
u can read it from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265975
good luck paw
ss1271 said:
Hi every one,
i've got my hermes radio to 1.54.30.10 month ago. and i've just seen a Seniour member started a thread warning that the 1.54 series are unstable....
i haven't met any problems till now.. i wanna know if it's possible for me to downgrade my radio to 1.47 or 1.38?
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Yes, u can down grade to a lower radio version, it's done quite often (assuming u have hardspl).
Thanks a lot~
I'll downgrade my Radio as soon as I finished this semester~
By the way...
Are there any serious problem( known as bricked your Hermes) if i continue to using this 1.54.30.10 Radio?
i mean if it necessary for me to downgrade my Radio?
No hard evidence, but 1.5+ radios are suspected for causing problems - read details HERE and HERE
I start experiencing problems similar to described in the above threads, so just downgareded to 1.43
Cheers
not having any major issues with this radio ROM, been on the radio for more or less 3 weeks (touch wood! ) .. am on Celcom Malaysia 3G (UMTS 2100)
Similar problems here. Downgraded, but it may be too late,had numerous connection problems and slow 3G on tmobile.
Forget radio 1.54.xxxxx
From my experience - flashing radio 1.54 can brick your phone , lost CID and sspl .
ss1271 said:
Thanks a lot~
I'll downgrade my Radio as soon as I finished this semester~
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Bad plan get rid of it now.
Use this one: ftp://xda:[email protected]/HERM_Radio_Only_1.48.00.10_CustomRUU.rar
it's not worth the risk of waiting.... you've been lucky so far. Current thought is that the 1.5x series ROMs drive the radio chip too hard and it overheats to extinction. First signs are drops and erratic radio performance. If you wait until you already got it you prob waited too long. But if you do get those symptoms before you reflash, then pull the battery immediately and (OK this might sound weird but it worked for a friend of mine) put the phone & the battery in a zip lock baggy and put it in the freezer while you get that radio rom I pointed at above ready.
When ready, put it back together and immediately flash the Radio with the 1.48 version. After it resets and does it's business.... reflash the 1.48 again.
Hopefully you will never see the problem again, if that didn't work then you may as well try calling your provider to see if they will replace the phone.
I've downgraded my radio to 1.48 about 1 month ago..
i'll show my grateful to u, thanks a lot!
radio 1.54.30.10 is working perfect on Orange Israel ,Kiyevstar Ukrain, MTC Moscow , and other Europe countries that i visited , this radio is the best i tried
regards
edward
kipe said:
not having any major issues with this radio ROM, been on the radio for more or less 3 weeks (touch wood! ) .. am on Celcom Malaysia 3G (UMTS 2100)
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So far so good .. nothing bad happen yet .. notice that my CELCOM 3G signal getting better ...
Same here, I have a better signal and connects to 3G faster than AT&T's radio 1.54.07.00, and I am on the AT&T Network
just to add to the the list of "satisfied customers" ..no problem whatsoever with my provider (UMTS 2100/GSM 900+1800)..
best downgrade and how to obtain it
I'm also experiencing similar problems. I have been running 1.54.07.00 for about 3 months and steadily experiencing more drop-outs on the phone service. I've ready different treads and some people have downgraded to 1.48 and other to 1.43. Is either one a better choice? And, sorry to ask a basic question, but where to I download the downgrade. I searched, but to no avail.
Hermes 100
Rom Version 3.62.502.3
Rom date 10/11/2007 (Oct 11)
Radio version: 154.07.00
I've been using this Radio on my Vario II since it showed up here (2 months maybe) and nothing happened. Signal strength is still the same. For me personally it's the best Radio I've been using so far. I'd be a pity having to downgrade now...
rnando said:
I'm also experiencing similar problems. I have been running 1.54.07.00 for about 3 months and steadily experiencing more drop-outs on the phone service. I've ready different treads and some people have downgraded to 1.48 and other to 1.43. Is either one a better choice? And, sorry to ask a basic question, but where to I download the downgrade. I searched, but to no avail.
Hermes 100
Rom Version 3.62.502.3
Rom date 10/11/2007 (Oct 11)
Radio version: 154.07.00
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hermes wiki
I've had the 'false roaming' icon on for a few weeks now in addition to a 'no signal' scare for a few hours. I'm thinking of just downgrading to the 1.43 radio that originally shipped with the WM5 AT&T ROM.
My 8525 is running radio ver 1.54.07.00 and I noticed that my friends tilt gets 3G connections in places my hermes doesn't. Is there a newer rom with better 3g reception?
not a newer on for hermes...there is a 1.56 from trinity that some hermes users liked (look at it's thread info). Sometimes going back to 1.48 or 1.47 could be better than 1.54 depending on your location & carrier?
Best thing to do is say "I live >insert country here< & am using >insert carrier here<... Whats the best radio for me?". Radios differ country to country and carrier to carrier.. What works fine for me here in Oz won't help you in say Texas... Until ALL carriers use the latest radios (yeah right, I'll be able to jump off a cliff, grow wings spontaneously and fly to safety 1st) then someone saying this is best for you might not be true and could also harm your Hermes..
More Info always better for us trying to help...
Cheers...
I am in California, USA and on AT&T/Cingular.
Hmm had confused to about this radio version, is there any standard official release such a documentation that stated in which frequency does all those radio intended suitable for.
I had try 1.47.30.10 (my previous 1.47.0.10), then 11.56.70.11, but not so sure about the last and lately i fall back to 1.47.30.10. Why? Cause in latest Dopod 838 Pro official/shipped ROM (got from zocters's 4shared archive, thanks Mas), use this version. Play safely
So I should try the 1.56 one? Also, what rom is good these days? I currently am using CRC.
micrors4racer said:
So I should try the 1.56 one? Also, what rom is good these days? I currently am using CRC.
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looks like from signatures I've seen, california is using 1.48 & 1.54 (read the 1.56 thread & see if u want to try that one).
for wm6.1 roms: CRC, DVH, & PDACorner are recommended! But, read their threads for details...
For those wanting to upgrade only their radio I have uploaded the following RUU packages:
Radio 1.02.25.31 (Cingular)
Radio 1.02.25.19 (HTC)
Radio 1.02.25.11 (HTC)
Radio 1.01.25.16 (Cingular)
Each of the packages already contains an ROM updater which does not erase your phone, so your operating system and settings will remain intact.
Note: You need to have HardSPL before attempting to flash these!
Remember that flashing anything on your phone is always at your own risk.
I have updated my HTC Touch Pro to from Radio 1.02.25.19 to Radio 1.02.25.31 without any problems.
Update 1: Added Cingular Radio 1.01.25.16
THANK YOU now i try in my diamond
Do these radios work also on Diamond ?
They will not flash in your Diamond if your Diamond radio is security locked.
I would advise against flashing Raphael radio's in your Diamond, there is no reason to.
It could work because the chipset is the same, but why take the chance to brick your phone by flashing a radio which is not meant for it.
Do you see any improvement with .31 radio?
Tested it for about an hour or so now.
Can't say I noticed any difference, but I only tested it around the house. Reception around here is generally very bad and it seems to hold up nicely, so its definitely not worse then the previous radio.
GPRS, EDGE and HSPDA seem to work fine.
What about the Cingular one..? Anyone try this in the US to see if the 3g is now present..?
i flashed my touch pro with .31 and it went perfectly. In fact my US AT&T shows G. Not sure if that is the same as 3G but i am also at work where i have bad reception so that may play into it
as with the roms thread, the info is in the wiki pages already.
Although do keep discussion on the radio performance open
3g radio work in North America?
I bought the Diamond in the UK and haven't gotten anything but EDGE. Will any of the RADIO updates address this or is it a hardware problem ?
mallman said:
i flashed my touch pro with .31 and it went perfectly. In fact my US AT&T shows G. Not sure if that is the same as 3G but i am also at work where i have bad reception so that may play into it
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I believe it should be showing and H icon..
darkvoid said:
Tested it for about an hour or so now.
Can't say I noticed any difference, but I only tested it around the house. Reception around here is generally very bad and it seems to hold up nicely, so its definitely not worse then the previous radio.
GPRS, EDGE and HSPDA seem to work fine.
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Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
gatordent said:
Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
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That's something I would like to know as well...
gatordent said:
Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
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Nope, I'm in Europe (The Netherlands).
BoldFace said:
I believe it should be showing and H icon..
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not in USA i dont think. my last 3g phone only showed 3g
i've tried to flash radio and it went 100% in 5 seconds. phone started but no radi was updated. any thoughts?
H is in fact in US...
mallman said:
not in USA i dont think. my last 3g phone only showed 3g
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My TyTN II would show 3G most of the time in the Chicago area. It would switch to H whenever it was downloading. That's the ONLY THING I miss having now that I got the TP...Edge is too terribly slow to do anything but update the weather and my RSS feeds off hours (like at 3AM).
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Can canadians use these 3g radio updates? I have a UK phone and i'm only getting EDGE right now
So what was decided about Diamond radios? I know the discussion was started but was there a conclusion? I like the radio on my diamond much better than .19 on the Pro.
TIA
Hey mixmaven, go read the other raphael radio thread, this was answered already!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2568960&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2568960&postcount=35
-me
mixmaven said:
So what was decided about Diamond radios? I know the discussion was started but was there a conclusion? I like the radio on my diamond much better than .19 on the Pro.
TIA
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Hi all!
I recently upgraded from a Bell Mobility PPC-6800 (Mogul) to a Bell Mobility Touch Pro (CDMA carrier in Canada for those who aren't sure). I had already flashed my Mogul with a DCD rom, which I loved. Now I'm running the NRGZ rom 3.0 I found over at PPCGeeks.com and it's also a very impressive package he's put together. Loving the speed of it so far.
I've searched around and the only reference I've found to radios are for the GSM Raphael, not the Herman. Are there better radios out there that I simply haven't found? My signal bars are typically low....it might spike to full from time to time, but then it'll drop back to 1-2 bars. My Mogul used to get full reception anywhere, so I know the Bell network has a fair amount of coverage.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks guys
If you check out the CDMA part of the Touch Pro forums on ppcgeeks, you will find a topic about various radios. As long as your phone is unlocked, you can use any of the radios. Apparently the radio that works the best varies significantly on factors such as location, etc.
Personally, I'm new to flashing Touch Pro's, but I've flashed 4 radios and find that the Telus radio seems to have a slight advantage here in Edmonton. Of course that is subjective, since I have no real numbers, and my results could have been skewed by many different factors.
Keep in mind, for warranty purposes, you can't go back to your original radio with Bell, since they have not released a shipped rom for people to take apart. This means you have to hope the warranty guys miss the fact that you changed the radio, even if you flash back to a stock bell rom, since it technically voids the warranty to change the radio. The Telus radio has the most similar version numbers to the bell stock radio.
I recently went through an unlock /flash and radio for my dad, the radio was by far the most time consuming part, I flashed something like 10 or 12 radios, and running fieldtest on each one to get the best signal, then having to go through all the crap to find the best battery consumption versus the best signal was a P.I.T.A. but he's way happy now. and when your pop is retired and he lives 3 hours away, every chance he gets he'll talk your ear off. the Best Radio is largely a per person/device thing. what carrier you have affects it, what area you're in affects it too. I hope I helped a bit, at least more than I confuzed you.