Hello All,
I would like to know whether anyone has tried the new Iguidance 2009 for PPC. If so, please share the experience and I'd like to know whether it works without using GPSGATE like Iguidance V4.0
I've never used it, but have used many of the solutions out there. By far the best I have found is iGO8 with the US maps. Absolutely incredible interface, fantastic graphics and sound, amazing. From the looks of the Iguidance 2009 screenshots, iGO8 blows it away as well.
I Dont Think Its Out Yet.
If it is let me know. I heard October 8 2008.
Thanks
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Iguidance isnt out yet, but it seems they are fixing the PPC GPS issue with us. It is also the only one i know that does TTS, so for me its the winner. And how do u get US maps with iGo8? might try but without TTS, always feels like im missing something
friguy33 said:
Iguidance isnt out yet, but it seems they are fixing the PPC GPS issue with us. It is also the only one i know that does TTS, so for me its the winner. And how do u get US maps with iGo8? might try but without TTS, always feels like im missing something
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igo8 does have TTS support, but for the mogul, not enough ram to use it, however using Oncourse with TTS works fine for me. (Oncourse uses the same core as igo8 but rebranded)
There are definitely US maps for iGO8.
Actually the US maps are for MioMap software, they just happen to be easily changed to work with Igo since they use the same file structure.
Igo (as far as I know) has never released maps of North America, tho they do OEM their software to other vendors who may have NA maps available.
BTC
Great Software, BUT...
urcboss07 said:
Hello All,
I would like to know whether anyone has tried the new Iguidance 2009 for PPC. If so, please share the experience and I'd like to know whether it works without using GPSGATE like Iguidance V4.0
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I really like the iGudance software. This worked great with my NATF 4.1 Fuze. HOWERVER, they ship this on a 4gb microSD, AND they do not allow you to copy the software to your own SD card. Well, you can copy it, but it won't run. In my case I wanted to copy it to my 16gb card. Their copy protection won't let it run that way.
SO, ONLY buy it if you are either willing to use their SD card or you are willing to swap cards every time you want to run GPS. I'm not.
i just got iguidance 2009 and it works pretty good. I have tried lot of gps softwares on my tmobile wing but none of them really worked. I think it's cause all of the gps softwares were for wm 5 or 6 and not for 6.1. But this one is for 6.1 too. I can't really compare it to other softwares but to what I have experienced it works pretty well. The poi missing few destinations but again I can't compare that to other softwares.
Ken98045 said:
I really like the iGudance software. This worked great with my NATF 4.1 Fuze. HOWERVER, they ship this on a 4gb microSD, AND they do not allow you to copy the software to your own SD card. Well, you can copy it, but it won't run. In my case I wanted to copy it to my 16gb card. Their copy protection won't let it run that way.
SO, ONLY buy it if you are either willing to use their SD card or you are willing to swap cards every time you want to run GPS. I'm not.
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Wrong. You can easily run the maps from any SD card. Trust me.
iGo8 is a waste. No TTS is basically worthless. iGuidance 2009 works really well. I'm still using it with the astrolauncher mortscript and gpsgate, but I'll try it without tomorrow.
ok this stuff gets expensive trying all the different ones to find the one you like....soooo.. lets start here..
Mapopolis - not great on graphics - no TTS and was cheap
iGuidance 3 - was awesome and i liked it alot but no tts and got it with my gps bundle so forget the price
iguidance 4 - was at a truck meet and a guy had it.. got to check it out and it was cool... tts and all... was going to buy it but then looked into tomtom
tomtom - ok so it is really nice... expecially the gui but it still lacks something
iGuidance 2009 - funny i found this thread as I was talking to a guy at work since I just started there... and he knew one of the guys there that is into this stuff too... so he has it installed... I got to check it out and he has it running on a mogul!!!!! on sprint stock rom (I told him bout the roms here so he should be dropping by )
now in addition to all that up there i have also tried trial versions of software like
GPS Speed SEntry
GPS Gate
GPS Meter
GPS Skinner
Beeline GPS
VisualGPSce
I have teste EVERY one of them in this quest of trying to figure out what is the best and what to use...
ALL have worked on my mogul (on the bottom list as trials are available) and top where I have bought or had the oppertunity to check them out....
so I feel that I will be upping for an upgrade to iGuidance 2009 as I see some changes...hopefully for the better.. im gonna ask the guy if I can borrow his phone during the day (hah borrow a phone... if it was stand alone gps maybe easier to do).... but his Mogul connected with just the sprint rom and radio (dont even know what versions) in less than 10 seconds!!!!!!!
I like some features of TomTom yet some of iGuidance... so hopefully iGuidance grabbed those features...
features I like of tomtom
online update to POI (dunkin donuts YEAH BABY!!!)
look and feel - doesnt feel like a phone
ease of use
features I like of previous iGuidance which I know they must have not got rid of
click on screen while navigating and it shows you the current location... do that on tomtom and it does nothing
look and feel - always been on par with stand alone gps but not to tomtom standards though...
ease of use - I have always found it easy to use and connect quickly....
well that is it for me for now.. time to hunt down the cheapest place to buy the software!!!!!!
Tomtom locks slightly faster on my mogul, and is a bit more "pickup and play" friendly.. but iguidance '09 has it beat in everyother area.. especially mem usage(tomtom gives out of mem errors too often for me)
Well I am searching for the best PPC iNav as well .. so far I like TomTom,
I currently have TomTom v6, iGuidance v4 and I ordered iGuidance 2009 last
week .. should have it tomorrow or Friday .. so I'll report on iGuidance 2009 ..
The only issue with TomTom v6 is no TTS .. other than that .. I never get loss
and never have any memory issues running it .. hell its been the only stable
Nav software on my phone .. over all others!!! "so far anyways"..
major issues I have with iGuidance v4 is that, it does not show live position!!
and you have to keep tapping the screen to get your current location ..
I even got loss using iGuidance v4 as I drive the phone would idea and the
software also seems to idle and have a major lag in updating the location
that cause me to miss my tunes a few times .. end up had to Run TomTom to
save my a$$ and get me where I needed to go.. iGuidance v4 seems like its
best for ppl walking lmao.. lol
Well I'll have iGuidance 2009 tomorrow or Friday so I "hope" it will be 1000x
better than iGuidance v4 cause the only good thing I found about iGuidance
v4 was its TTS and the fact it seems to work in stand-along mode..
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major issues I have with iGuidance v4 is that, it does not show live position!!
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It probably doesn't matter anymore since you bought iGuidance 2009, but the fix for v4 is to run GPSgate in the background. iGuidance v4 will then update your current position automatically and work just like a standalone device. There was a problem with the gps driver that is built into the v4 interfacing with winmo. GPSgate outputs the GPS info on a different port, you just point iGuidance to look at the new port. Check the big GPS fact thread either here or on PPCGeeks and there are some awesome scripts to start up GPSgate when you start iGuidance. Works great for me. Big props to the people that did the work in that thread.
mr-free said:
Well I am searching for the best PPC iNav as well .. so far I like TomTom,
I currently have TomTom v6, iGuidance v4 and I ordered iGuidance 2009 last
week .. should have it tomorrow or Friday .. so I'll report on iGuidance 2009 ..
The only issue with TomTom v6 is no TTS .. other than that .. I never get loss
and never have any memory issues running it .. hell its been the only stable
Nav software on my phone .. over all others!!! "so far anyways"..
major issues I have with iGuidance v4 is that, it does not show live position!!
and you have to keep tapping the screen to get your current location ..
I even got loss using iGuidance v4 as I drive the phone would idea and the
software also seems to idle and have a major lag in updating the location
that cause me to miss my tunes a few times .. end up had to Run TomTom to
save my a$$ and get me where I needed to go.. iGuidance v4 seems like its
best for ppl walking lmao.. lol
Well I'll have iGuidance 2009 tomorrow or Friday so I "hope" it will be 1000x
better than iGuidance v4 cause the only good thing I found about iGuidance
v4 was its TTS and the fact it seems to work in stand-along mode..
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Either there's something wrong with your IG install, or you're not using it correctly. I've used it for years on several devices and never have had to tap the screen to get the current location. With IG, you have to use a program like gpsgate to keep the titans internal gps alive when using IG.
Will I be able to transfer iGuidance 2009 to another MSD card after purchase? I want to transfer it to a class-6 MSD card. If so, is it just a matter of copying from the original and pasting to the new card or is there anything else involved? Also, has anyone got this working in an Xperia X1? Thanks.
mcorgan10 said:
It probably doesn't matter anymore since you bought iGuidance 2009, but the fix for v4 is to run GPSgate in the background. iGuidance v4 will then update your current position automatically and work just like a standalone device. There was a problem with the gps driver that is built into the v4 interfacing with winmo. GPSgate outputs the GPS info on a different port, you just point iGuidance to look at the new port. Check the big GPS fact thread either here or on PPCGeeks and there are some awesome scripts to start up GPSgate when you start iGuidance. Works great for me. Big props to the people that did the work in that thread.
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Correct. Noobs should search a little before bashing products that they clearly don't understand how to use.
Any answers to my earlier question will be much appreciated.
sabesh said:
Any answers to my earlier question will be much appreciated.
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Read post #10. It can be done.
Just FYI...Ive done the GPS changes so it gets a lock in 5 seconds and iGuidance runs perfect.
Related
GoogleMap has incorporated a very useful feature so that you can know where you are even if there is no GPS reception. To do this, you need to download the newest version of googlemap, available from here
http://www.google.com/gmm/index.html
Watch the yourube demo here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6gqipmbcok
enjoy
who cares we all have gps
if you dont have gps reception then you need to come back to earth or be patient of wait another minute
im not trying to be an as*hole eaglesteve im just saying ....
irus said:
who cares we all have gps
if you dont have gps reception then you need to come back to earth or be patient of wait another minute
im not trying to be an as*hole eaglesteve im just saying ....
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Yet I suppose the reason for this new feature is for those moment when there is no GPS signal. Dense trees... Tall building...
I have many othe GPS software too. I normally use iGO my way and Tom Tom. But it doesn't mean I don't use google maps. It's one more nice toy.
Please note that I do not mean to bash dcd or no2chem. He is the best as he releases kitchens and makes good roms. His rom is the first one that I tried back in the day.
Difference not much really in terms of functionality except that dcd's 2.2.x doesn't work correctly and nueROM does.
Looks DCD wins He has a much better looking rom with themes and better dialer and calculator skins.
Extra stuff nueROM has additional tools that allow you to adjust volume, enable extended rom, and update over the air. Also nueROM includes ringtones.
In my opinion if dcd were to port the "Extra stuff" (the first three anyway) and get the sd card working there would be no contest. However, just fixing the sd card issue will make choosing a very tough decision.
Just my two cents and also I hope that this helps newbies choose a ROM to use. Currently I would use nueROM but once dcd fixes the sd problems I will use his.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
Currently I would use nueROM but once dcd fixes the sd problems I will use his.
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Doesn't no2chem's have the same storage card problems with the nueroms that dcd's have?
indagroove said:
Doesn't no2chem's have the same storage card problems with the nueroms that dcd's have?
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No it doesn't.
I have been using no2chem's nueROM and have not had any problems with the sd card. AFAIK he fixed this a long time ago. I do not use encryption though but dcd's doesn't work with or without encryption and no2chem's does so currently nueROM is better functioning it just doesn't look as pretty. (it looks more like the stock rom.)
Well just to keep things in proportion, DCD has said that alot of his ROM was based off of No2chems rom and xip. DCD has made a great complimentary ROM which he tries to offer the things that No2chem offers and then some things that he doesnt ie: MMS (arcroft) different dialer, commgr, and removes the games etc.
No2chem has mentioned that he relies on our support thru paypal etc becuase he spends alot of time on these ROM projects and im sure finacially it can interfere with work, or if he is in between work.
DCD (i think) has less time becuase of his work and therefore doesnt get the opportunity to spend as much time.
No2chem is awsome at the inner workings of our phone and together (no2chem and DCD, and plus there are many others) that put out great Rom's, it just a matter of what your needs are.
DCD im sure will be updating real soon and Im sure, like stated b4 that it will be tuff to decide which to use, but thats a good thing.
Keep up the great work, dcd and no2chem and all other DEV's!!
the ppc community greatly appreciate all u do!
I have tested both rom, I find that no2chem has better GPS reception than dcd rom. Could be driver different. For DCD, i get 4-5 satellite but for no2chem I get 6-8 satellites. It might be just my phone.
no2chem uses a registry hack to enable a-gps this allows for better reception of gps signals.
Yes, I applied the same registry hack to DCD rom but it doesn't seem to work for me. Is anyone else get it work with DCD?
I'm sure I'm running dcd rom 2.2.6 even though I have download different neurom 5047 roms. My sd card has always worked but i have issues running music from the memory card. I'm about to test it again but it has been pretty consistent...I can view information from phone but running is a different story but it may just be me. This issue has happened with GPS today, music and even the new speaker cab.
I've used several roms from both of these guys, and I give hats off to both of them. Strong work! I currently am running dcd's 2.0.0, because I was simply losing too much memory from no2chem's wm6.1 roms. The customization was great, and the responsiveness from the device is very nice with the mw6.1 roms, but the memory leak was just too much for me. dcd's 2.0.0 is the only custom rom (that I know of), other than the leaked sprint, which is wm 6.0
I'm glad to hear that no2check has solved the memory card issues, and I'm sure that dcd's next rom will have the bugs worked out too.
FWIW, I like the way that dcd has choosen to display the clock better than no2chem's style.
i just transferred a song over to my 512 mb card and played through media player. It works! Maybe its my 8 gb that has issue or maybe phone was just glitching at the time. I lost my 8 gb memory card, i'm soo pissed right now, i think it fell under middle console near ebrake hole. Its going to be impossible to find, probably fell out...debating if i should try to find it or order a new one...
Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
I have the latest DCD 2.2.6 Rom and Have absolutely no problem with the sd card. I've ran programs from it, listen to music, installed all of my programs, done hard resets and soft resets and haven't had a single issue with the memory card.
Willybeen said:
Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
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Check the threads, Google XDA... http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Willybeen said:
Im ready to flash to no2chems but i dont know what to do with the .nbh file or the winrar file... can somebody help me?
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927
I've tried both ROMS.... I've made custon ROMs from both of them as well.... I've also never had any issue with an SD card with DCD, except 1 time. My opinion on the SD issue is that somehow during the constant reading and writing to it, something gets corrupted during the writes and causes it to freeze. no sure if its FAT issue but i reformatted the card to Fat32 and haven't had any issues since. I kept the same ROM on the phone.... It reboots fine with the card IN the phone now since the reformat... As for No2chems, I liked it as well, cept the mem leak issue. It's been a while since I made one from his ROM but I plan to make one tonight from his new basekit, BTW _ thx No2chem , it harder for me to make a custom rom from No2chems than DCD's but all in all, they BOTH have pros and cons, but BOTH are very good choices....
AstronusX said:
I have tested both rom, I find that no2chem has better GPS reception than dcd rom. Could be driver different. For DCD, i get 4-5 satellite but for no2chem I get 6-8 satellites. It might be just my phone.
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My guess would be that it's more likely due to a change in time between your other tests in addition to differing cloud cover and/or a slight change in location (indoors this may be a matter of feet). Beyond the leaked Sprint release I don't believe that we've seen any other GPS enabled radio driver. I'd assume that the GPS driver of these ROMs is the same.
Within a half hour I may also notice such a change in satellite reception without any software change on my phone. Be careful against attributing a placebo effect for more likely external causes.
Enabling the A in AGPS is a side issue when the concern is GPS satellites strength. Enabling it offers the potential combination of two separate methods to resolve a location. Enabling the A(ssisted) modes will not increase a unit's resolution of satellites.
When viewing the GPS satellite status within a third party app or the Fieldtrial one sees the signal and timing stats for each satellite to your unit and this GPS function is independent to the additional cell tower assistance modes that may be enabled with the GPSone chipset. A change in settings of the A(ssisted) in AGPS should not affect reception of satellites nor alter the number of visible satellites. A sufficient GPS resolution (3 or more satellites) should always be more precise than an assisted cell tower resolution alone, and negate the need and benefit for such assistance at that time. Two different systems of location resolution that in tandem may increase the dependability of a unit's location, particularly when sufficient satellite reception is spotty or unavailable.
azclown said:
As for No2chems, I liked it as well, cept the mem leak issue
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2.2.6 has an even bigger memory leak and the SD card problem will arise for those of you not experiencing, it did for me. I was all so very happy until it started happening. Went back to 2.2.0 I am considering 5047 to bad there isn't one specific for VZW.
I've gone back to 2.2.0 from 2.2.6 due to sdcard failures and intellisync / wireless sync starting to fail as well.
Sure appreciate all the work DCD is putting into this. If you're using his work, donate, he deserves it more then your cell company.
Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
DCD is way ahead of the curb to any software release from any company, with his software it pays in spades what you originally got from the phone out of the box. GPS, PAN, DUN, sting SMS, faster better use of CPU and RAM the list is endless. hands down DCD's ROM is the industry standard.
the added value to the phone is nothing short of outstanding.
no question. dcd.
There is absolutely no way you can dobetter than DCD's Roms.
JukEboXAuDiO said:
Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
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Oh boy, don't get me started. Read my rants in the thread I started about the official release. The only think worse you could do to your phone other than putting the VZW release on it is running it over with your car after pulling it out of the back of a dump truck thats filled with molten lava, uranium, and fast flying neutrino radiation. I would rather try conjuring the spirits of my dead grand mother in hopes that she could build a better ROM than this crappy, late to the game, outdated months before it came out, non supported, lacking GPS , bullsh*t ass VZW ROM.
I guess what I am trying to say is I would go with DCD's ROM ;c)
DISCLAIMER: Before anyone gets offended, this is solely my opinion (granted taken to an extreme!). Thank you for taking the time to view.
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
lafester said:
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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Hey, that is a good point I didn't think about. We can use this to flash if we hose our phones.
lafester said:
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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LOL
Why do people continue to insist that the phone GPS is all that and a side of fries?
Has it ever occurred to you that some people dont give a rat's behind about GPS functionality on their phone? Guess what, I dont - I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
Its not all about GPS you know - imagine that? There is a universe where things other than GPS is important
I've also tried a few of dcd's roms - great stuff - no doubt about it. But for the apps I run, the stock ROM seems to be better - blows your mind, I know.
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LOL
I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
indagroove said:
What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
kdj67f said:
I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
Well, I asked. I have never ran one of those programs so I have no idea how they compare to stock/DCD roms.
I use my device like a "toy" as much as I use it for e-mail, Excel editing and other business type applications.
Thanks for educating us.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?
I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?...
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
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Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
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Point well taken - my apologies
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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EXACTLY! Thats what I've been saying all along - depending on your needs, the stock rom will be fine or you may need to go with a custom rom
Now we are back on topic
My TomTom software pulls real-time traffic. Live Search can even pull the traffic in real time..provided you have a data connection.
That is the real difference, not that it cannot get the traffic but the method it does and if it costs anything. I got the unlimited data so it is a non-issue to me, but with a limited data plan a dedicated GPS will win out based on that function alone.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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What medical app runs better on a stock ROM than on a dcd ROM? Please name any specific app? Lexi-...? PocketMed? Harrison's? Even Epocrates?
If you're going to make this claim publicly, back it up with ANY specific app you've used which runs better on stock in your opinion so others can weigh in or test your claims. That's only fair when you're slandering dcd ROM's as better for "play" than "work." If you have "a number of..... apps that run better with the stock rom" surely you can name at least one, but I notice you don't.
I say, put up or shut up.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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Then why waste your time posting here then? If stock if great for you then why waste your time on a forum for making custom ROMs? I think the GPS in the Titan is just as good as any hand held. TomTom, Live Search, Google Maps and others all can receive realtime traffic through the standard data network. Also TomTom devices are Windows CE embedded devices and use bluetooth connection to a data phone for the real time traffic and other services. So for me having one unit that I can carry to do GPS, email (work and personal), Geocaching, Bible, and internet search is invaluable. Since VZW seems to want to charge for using the GPS then we have DCD. If you don't care about the internal GPS then be happy with the stock ROMs. Better or faster is a matter of opinion that is true, but if I don't have to deal with all the bloatware that comes with the stock ROM the less that will take up precious memory. For me DCD/GC has made my phone a tool that enables me to work outside of my office, it is definitely not a toy.
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I've read every page of this thread prior to posting. I read far more than I post by a long shot. I rarely post without listening (reading) first.
I posted because FM RDS is simply a data connection. Nothing more, Nothing less. With that in mind it would mean as long as the 6800 has a data connection it should show the same exact traffic information as a standalone "real" GPS device, unless either real-time traffic isn't a provided feature or the traffic provider prioritizes one device class over another.
Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
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I wasn't slamming you as being inaccurate in your usage findings. There are far too many variations of this device to be absolutely certain they don't have more than just cosmetic differences. I was just adding to the thread collective my experience of DCD being a LOT faster than stock. As I also pointed out, my experience with the Mogul doesn't run that long. I just recently moved to it from my HTC Wizard.
Although it does help if you cite specifics. Such as "App XYZ runs faster" or whatnot so someone else using it can chime in and agree or what not. Unless you wrote the app for yourself you can't assume none of us run it
Is anyone using iGuidance with any success. When I use it, I get GPS lock no problem. But while driving, it will not keep up with me. I need to slow WAY down or stop to update my position on the map.
I do not have any problems like this with Google Maps. I'll try Live and maybe TomTom this week sometime.
You have to use GPSGate with iGuidance.
There is an issue with iGuidance. You either have to use GPSGate, use another GPS program or wait for the next version to come out that will hopefully fix the problem, but it has been forever waiting for this stupid update.
Thanks. Is GPSGate a free client?
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Thanks. Is GPSGate a free client?
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It's not free, you are supposed to pay for it.
+1 on everything said. I used iGuidance for a while and if you don't have another app that "primes" the GPS, you don't get positional updates. After running GPSGate it worked fine with updating on the map. I had other issues with iGuidance that eventually made me drop them. After a lot of testings and searching I've found that TomTom works the best for me.
The three that I spent the most time with are iGo, iGuidance, and TomTom.
iGo is an very nicely done application that looks fantastic and works great... expect for the fact that it's a HUGE memory hog... so much so that on the memory limited Titan I was locking up and losing the ability for the phone to work to make and receive calls. Not good.
iGuidance is MUCH easier on the memory. It doesn't look nearly as nice as iGo, but I can live with that if that's the only problem. However, I also had problems with iGuidance moving from Portrait to Landscape and back. The screen would get out of position regularly and become unusable. Plus I wasn't happy with the small size of the buttons. Makes it REALLY hard to use when in the car.
TomTom uses a bit more memory than iGuidance, but not nearly as much as iGo. It doesn't look quite as nice as iGo in my opinion, but much nicer than iGuidance. The buttons are large and easy to use. I have found that a few times when trying to navigate to businesses via POI that it is sometimes a few stores/building off, but close enough to be able to see the sign from here I am. Navigating via address has always been dead on.
I forget what the application is... there is a free gps primer out there.... I just wiped my phone and going to tinker with roms today.. hopefully.. so I dont have access to what I was using.. but yes you need an application like gpsgate (think trial as when I used it then you have to pay for it) but someone posted a freebie... Ill see if I can find it...
I use iguidance.... and love it... iguidance 4 is soo much better than 3... however it seems everyone rants and raves about tomtom.... maybe ill have to look at that.... I use my gps when we are going on trips and stuff.. even when work sends me out.. maybe I can get them to pay for it!!!!!
iGuidance does full TTS. Does TomTom? iGuidance 2009 will be releaed in a couple of weeks.
My idea is if the gps is working fine on the htc hd2.
Is it possible to cook those files and software in a rom for the raphael.
And then look if the raphael gets a faster gps fix without 3de party software or other tricks.
This is just an idea of my to try it out and watch what happens.
So if you like this idea can you try this out in your new rom ?
Thank you already
Do you think that 10-30 seconds is too long for a GPS fix? That's how fast is GPS fix on my Raph.
If it is 10 -30 sec a would be happy.
I would get nothing or i would wait 1h 30m.
It's very annoying if i have a fix and then it is gone again.
I have used a lot of programs registery tricks or other tweaks roms and radio's but i won't work for me.
I am using the gps for walking in the forest so i can get my way back.
Several times i was lost and needed to find my way back on my own.
And it won't hurt to try this out.
If this works out with the htc hd2 files and programs other cooks can use those files in there roms.
Check your radio number, then install suitable rilphone to it and then use QuickGPS
Currently getting GPS location under 30 seconds consistently by directly starting google maps.
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Latest Energyrom 10/29
Radio 1.14.25.35 with corresponding rilphone.dll
I've never found any benefit to using 3rd party apps except maybe for enjoying the beautiful screen gpstest shows for 5 minutes before it even starts to work.
There are rare times when I can't get a gps lock with google maps when i actually tried gpstest only to realize that it can't get a lock either.
One thing you can try is to simply run quickgps before you use gps...especially if you're in a new area.
Seems like in the woods (geocaching), the GPS really fails to track anything. If you move slower than 1mph, it really doesn't update your location, and you can be walking for a mile. Walk faster and it'll find your location lickety split.
I get a fix in about 15 seconds on the second floor of my house with my Raphael. It just hates tracking when you're walking slow. :/
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Seems like in the woods (geocaching), the GPS really fails to track anything. If you move slower than 1mph, it really doesn't update your location, and you can be walking for a mile. Walk faster and it'll find your location lickety split.
I get a fix in about 15 seconds on the second floor of my house with my Raphael. It just hates tracking when you're walking slow. :/
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Interesting... Now I know why my raph gets a fix faster when in a moving car, rather than when I sit at home
And yes, running QuickGPS before Google Maps really helped me a lot...
So that is why i can't get a fix in the woods i need to move fast really fast to get a fix.
So raphael gps is only useable in my car.
But what will happen if whe use the htc hd2 gps drivers on the raphael ?
If this makes the raphael gps better why not trying it out?
I would like to port it to the raphael but i don't have the know how to do it.
menomenic said:
So that is why i can't get a fix in the woods i need to move fast really fast to get a fix.
So raphael gps is only useable in my car.
But what will happen if whe use the htc hd2 gps drivers on the raphael ?
If this makes the raphael gps better why not trying it out?
I would like to port it to the raphael but i don't have the know how to do it.
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Those drivers won't work on your device. The hardware is different. I can't even use Topaz GPS drivers on my device without breaking GPS completely.
Thank you captain for your answer.
So i now know it won't work because of the hardware now i can spend the time on something else.