Hello all - this is a great resource for new PPC phone users like me and thanks in advance for all that I have been able to learn here in the past few days. I do have a question for those "in the know" though. I have heard rumors, seen the VZW powerpoint presentation on Engadget, etc. concerning the update to WM6.1, Rev A, and activating the GPS chip on the VX6800. Seems though it's overdue given the late May 08 date indicated on Engadget. I want to start customizing the interface on my phone but don't want to have to find that what I do now is not compatible with 6.1. Also, I know that I could update now using a custom rom but if an official one is coming out, I would rather wait.
So, the question is if VZW is ever going to update the VX6800 and if so, will it be within the next month or so? I know this question probably is not answerable with an certainity but I will be happy for those that have been on the "scene" longer than I have to speculate. If it appears that an update is not immenient or coming at all, I will just go the custom rom route.
Thanks,
Les
VX6800 On Verizon
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Just take the plunge.... Verizon is always very late to market with updates to their phones..... If they even update it at all.... Your phone can be updated to the official ROM if it ever does come out....
Hello all - this is a great resource for new PPC phone users like me and thanks in advance for all that I have been able to learn here in the past few days. I do have a question for those "in the know" though. I have heard rumors, seen the VZW powerpoint presentation on Engadget, etc. concerning the update to WM6.1, Rev A, and activating the GPS chip on the VX6800. Seems though it's overdue given the late May 08 date indicated on Engadget. I want to start customizing the interface on my phone but don't want to have to find that what I do now is not compatible with 6.1. Also, I know that I could update now using a custom rom but if an official one is coming out, I would rather wait.
So, the question is if VZW is ever going to update the VX6800 and if so, will it be within the next month or so? I know this question probably is not answerable with an certainity but I will be happy for those that have been on the "scene" longer than I have to speculate. If it appears that an update is not immenient or coming at all, I will just go the custom rom route.
Thanks,
Les
VX6800 On Verizon
Stock (for the time being)
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I have been on and off the phone with HTC, UTStarcom, and Verizon for the past 3 months regarding this issue. At first, Verizon kept saying they knew nothing about an update or if there was going to be an update. Both HTC and UTStarcom informed me there was an update coming and it should be here by end of Q2. Finally, 2 weeks ago, I spoke with a WDTS tech from Verizon, who confirmed that there was indeed an update and it would be out by the end of Q2. He said it was going to update to RevA and VZNavigator (GPS). He said nothing about 6.1. This was the first time someone from Verizon knew anything about an update, nevermind when it was going to be released. It is the end of Q2, and still nothing. So I don't know what to tell you.
THAT BEING SAID....
I strongly recommend using a custom rom regardless whether an update is released or not. I am hoping they release an update merely for the fact that with an update brings new drivers, new OEM packages, new radio etc. that can be taken and applied to a custom rom. Custom roms are 99% of the time better than stock roms. My advice to you would be to update now to the latest rom/radio. If a VZW update comes out, you know we'll be on it like flies on **** and ready to apply all the goodies from it to a new custom rom.
GC
New ROM will be nice to potentially get Verizon aGPS settings as well.. vznavigator gets locks INSTANTLY so it will be interesting to see how they implement this on the wm devices... I know they already have it released for the palm so it's possible this may be causing the delay...
The short answer is... NO.
Verizon is very unlikely to ever release a ROM update for the XV6800.
The stores are already pushing the XV6900 over the Titan, and with the upcoming release of the Samsung i770, and Treo 800, it's entirely possible this phone wont be available much longer. In fact, my local store in Santa Monica, CA does not even have the XV6800 on display anymore.
The short answer is... NO.
Verizon is very unlikely to ever release a ROM update for the XV6800.
The stores are already pushing the XV6900 over the Titan, and with the upcoming release of the Samsung i770, and Treo 800, it's entirely possible this phone wont be available much longer. In fact, my local store in Santa Monica, CA does not even have the XV6800 on display anymore.
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This is not accurate information. Just because another phone model comes out does not necessarily mean all support is stopped for a previous one. The Apache was finally issued an update even though it was "outdated" as you're referring to. Like I said, I've spoken with several people in high positions from all 3 companies...not just dumbass customer service reps. The Vogue is a completely different phone than the Titan and just because it's been released after, and salespeople are trying to "push" it does not mean the Titan is obsolete. The Titan will be "outdated" when the Herman is released.
If you're going to post, provide solid factual proof and not just stipulation.
GC... you're right, I should have made it more clear thats my opinion, not a fact.
But your point about the update for the XV6700 is also important, because it took them SO long to release that update, it was pretty irrelevant to a lot of people by the time it came out. Granted, its better than nothing, but I was more generalizing about the fact that Verizon has historically had pretty crappy support for their phones after release. Whereas other carriers continue to update their existing product line with new firmware, software and other updates, Verizon tries to push a brand new phone on their customers instead.
And of course, I 100% agree with going the custom ROM route. Even if Verizon did issue a brand new ROM today, I would probably wait a few days, let DCD / no2chem, etc.. work their magic and make tons of improvements, and go with their product over whatever Verizon does.
But your point about the update for the XV6700 is also important, because it took them SO long to release that update, it was pretty irrelevant to a lot of people by the time it came out. Granted, its better than nothing, but I was more generalizing about the fact that Verizon has historically had pretty crappy support for their phones after release. Whereas other carriers continue to update their existing product line with new firmware, software and other updates, Verizon tries to push a brand new phone on their customers instead.
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Oh, I completely agree with you that Verizon is at the bottom of the list when it comes to supporting their products. There's no excuse for it. Sprint is coming up on two substantial rom updates, and Verizon hasn't provided its customers with anything. You can all be assured though that as long as I'm still breathing, I am not going to stop bugging them about it. Even if it does nothing, their people will have to put up with me annoying them about it every week until the Herman is released.
September?
I spoke with a Verizon Wireless Rep out in Boston, MA who said that in September an upgrade for the XV6800 would come out with VZNavigator in it. Everyone knows how this speculation works though....we can only hope.
I spoke with a Verizon Wireless Rep out in Boston, MA who said that in September an upgrade for the XV6800 would come out with VZNavigator in it. Everyone knows how this speculation works though....we can only hope.
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Hehe..must have been the same guy I talk to
I posted in the wrong thread, so since I'm already here I'll comment.
Even though Verizon is always way late to the party on devices, its not unusual for them to release one update during the life of the device. Even the samsung i730, which was an orphan from almost day one, received an official update from WM2003se to WM5, about a year after release. So that's my guess, the end of the year for a software/os update, unless the geniuses decide that pocket pc users will, for some reason, pay for navigation. Then you might see it earlier.
IMO, despite the criticism of Verizon, its not fair to compare to Sprint, since they rushed out the Mogul, and took a ton of complaints on how poorly it functioned. They were forced to put out the first update. So as far as I'm concerned, its only one real update that's come out. The xv6800 worked much better out of the box.
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Oh, I completely agree with you that Verizon is at the bottom of the list when it comes to supporting their products. There's no excuse for it. Sprint is coming up on two substantial rom updates, and Verizon hasn't provided its customers with anything. You can all be assured though that as long as I'm still breathing, I am not going to stop bugging them about it. Even if it does nothing, their people will have to put up with me annoying them about it every week until the Herman is released.
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HTC Herman is the TMobile Wing right?
IMO, despite the criticism of Verizon, its not fair to compare to Sprint, since they rushed out the Mogul, and took a ton of complaints on how poorly it functioned. They were forced to put out the first update. So as far as I'm concerned, its only one real update that's come out. The xv6800 worked much better out of the box.
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I'm not talking about the crappy update to the stock rom.
3.35
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I count two major updates.
HTC Herman is the TMobile Wing right?
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Haha no no. HTC Herman is your beloved Touch Pro.
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I'm not talking about the crappy update to the stock rom.
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I count two major updates.
Haha no no. HTC Herman is your beloved Touch Pro.
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Couldn't find that anywhere; googling HTC Herman brings up an expired craigslist listing for a Wing he erroneously calls the HTC Herman.
I am disappointed by a few things on the Touch Pro (biggest is the roller, battery, processor, there was something else I've forgotten), but the RAM and sleek look (VGA), are really tempting.
Couldn't find that anywhere; googling HTC Herman brings up an expired craigslist listing for a Wing he erroneously calls the HTC Herman.
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Yeah you probably won't see it for a while. It's the CDMA Touch Pro, as the HTC Victor is the CDMA Diamond.
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Yeah you probably won't see it for a while. It's the CDMA Touch Pro, as the HTC Victor is the CDMA Diamond.
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The Victor will probably be my next phone. 4GB internal, 196MB RAM, 3D graphics processor, HSDPA broadband internet collection, 3.2 mp auto-focus camera. Still will miss the roller on the side, but it doesn't seem any of the new models will have that anymore. Oh well.
The Victor will probably be my next phone. 4GB internal, 196MB RAM, 3D graphics processor, HSDPA broadband internet collection, 3.2 mp auto-focus camera. Still will miss the roller on the side, but it doesn't seem any of the new models will have that anymore. Oh well.
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HSDPA broadband internet connection on Verizon huh? Let me know when that happens
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HSDPA broadband internet connection on Verizon huh? Let me know when that happens
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True... may never happen, but would be nice to have if they start taking care of their business customers.
Do you guys ever think about changing to Sprint or other company? For my area, coverage sux bad for other providers. If they paid for your changeover charge would you switch?
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True... may never happen, but would be nice to have if they start taking care of their business customers.
Do you guys ever think about changing to Sprint or other company? For my area, coverage sux bad for other providers. If they paid for your changeover charge would you switch?
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Sprint has horrible service in central ohio or I would definately consider it... esp for SERO.
True... may never happen, but would be nice to have if they start taking care of their business customers.
Do you guys ever think about changing to Sprint or other company? For my area, coverage sux bad for other providers. If they paid for your changeover charge would you switch?
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HSDPA is GSM 3.5G data. Verizon is CDMA. You will never see HSDPA with Verizon. In the future, they're going LTE like AT&T, but you will never see HSDPA.
I have a Qwest Mogul, and from what I can tell, it's the same model as the verizon mogul. My question is, can I flash it with the newest Verizon rom? Do I need to unlock it or do I just flash with the verizon rom and that's it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You might want to follow the instructions to go back to the Verizon stock ROM in the WiKi, then get it working on the Verizon network then you can put on Custom ROM/Radio ROMs. But before you do that I would call Verizon and make sure they will take that phone's ESN. Some of the carriers won't take other carrier's phones even though they are the same model.
Curious
Just curious to see if there was ever any outcome or more official info lately about whether the Qwest HTC PPC 6800 Mogul can be flashed to Verizon service.
I just picked up one of these for a great deal to replace my current VZW phone as it seems to think it is at the end of it's usable life and I don't want to re-contract for two more years just to get a new phone.
I have been in several forums and googled until the letters wore off my keyboard and I keep running into dead ends on this subject.
Figured I had better resurrect the threads and see if anyone ever got anywhere with this request.
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Just curious to see if there was ever any outcome or more official info lately about whether the Qwest HTC PPC 6800 Mogul can be flashed to Verizon service.
I just picked up one of these for a great deal to replace my current VZW phone as it seems to think it is at the end of it's usable life and I don't want to re-contract for two more years just to get a new phone.
I have been in several forums and googled until the letters wore off my keyboard and I keep running into dead ends on this subject.
Figured I had better resurrect the threads and see if anyone ever got anywhere with this request.
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If your motherboard is still good just put that into the Qwest Mogul, and off ya go. That is what I did when my digitizer cracked. I got one like new for $40 swapped the mobos and got a new phone with all of my original info (rom, esn... ect.) 8 baby screws and 2 beers is all it takes.
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If your motherboard is still good just put that into the Qwest Mogul, and off ya go. That is what I did when my digitizer cracked. I got one like new for $40 swapped the mobos and got a new phone with all of my original info (rom, esn... ect.) 8 baby screws and 2 beers is all it takes.
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But again does anyone know if the aristocracy at Verizon will allow another carriers phone on their network?
Qwest Mogul on VZW
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But again does anyone know if the aristocracy at Verizon will allow another carriers phone on their network?
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I just spent 2 weeks last month to find out that VZW's new policy is to ban Qwest ESN's even if they were allready active on their nutwork.
I was grandfathered in with one of my Qwest 6800's, then I switched service to my 6900, and when I tried to go back it took 2 weeks and 3 level 3 techs to end up finding out that $55.oo an a new 2yr. renual (15mo. into old),
and I got a BNIB XV6800.
Now the TP in on sale for $99.99 with a 2yr., but a $70.00 mail in rebate, makes it 1/2 the price I just paid.
Oh well I don't think the TP is as solid as the TITAN...
Hello my sis recently purchased an sprint iPhone 5s about a week ago from eBay it arrived with no Sim and I didn't think that was a problem as sprint is CDMA well trying to activate it was a different story talked to sprint after self activating wouldn't work and found out it did require a Sim so got transferred to sprint international and got to order a free Sim from them it arrived and activation didn't work talked to support and guy said I was sent an android varrarent of the Sim after he checked the numbers and I would have to reorder an iPhone compatible one they gave me free overnight ship and it came and activated fine my question is tho
Would it be possible to activate cheap Chinese phones like the goophone or there new s5Clones/generic android sim phones on sprint. I ask this question because the only Google results I could find were from like 2008 and older So not to relevant today and BTW I still don't like iPhone over priced fads that do half as much as a android
Anyone this is messing with me not knowing
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Anyone this is messing with me not knowing
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i would of thought this thread/topic would of had a lot more traffic who wouldn't want a cheap replacement Chinese phone as a backup in-case of accidents or theft and loss on the sprint network.
i basically just wanted to know if possible because last time i knew of sprint was cdma only still but i don't understand why they would have android sim card
You will have to check pretty carefully to make sure that the Chinese phone has the correct frequencies for use on what ever Carrier you go with. There is an article here discussing the pros and cons of getting a Chinese branded phone.
One thing to note is that the Moto G pretty much takes every Chinese phone to school and for not really that much more $$$.
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You will have to check pretty carefully to make sure that the Chinese phone has the correct frequencies for use on what ever Carrier you go with. There is an article here discussing the pros and cons of getting a Chinese branded phone.
One thing to note is that the Moto G pretty much takes every Chinese phone to school and for not really that much more $$$.
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yea there are only a few company's i found the supports hspa+ net10 / with an at&t sim i figure at&t too but i believe every usa gsm network if i recall correctly supports voice and text bandwidths
my dad purchased a n9776 about a year ago and his data speeds on net10 with an at&t sim was around 15-18mpbs down before they rolled out the new plans for net10. now hes thinking of switching carriers the apns keep switching and loosing connection every other day causing his mms and data to stop working until we reenter the settings. but i'd like to know if sprint would be a viable option in the future (much better customer support). recently his charging port on his phone broke so he looking for a new phone. ill show him that moto g
This week I'm getting blackballed into finally upgrading from my old fleet of M9's.
Anyway, my wife smoked her M9 (GPU/display driver failure, she was running Linage 17). I had a spare M9 (I have three total, hers, mine, and the spare, all Att model M9's), moved over the SIM, get a message from Cricket that I need to re-register the SIM. Ok, go to the store yesterday, they tell me it can't be activated (and my phone is soon to die) because "it's a 3G phone". I assume they meant no VoLTE... which as far as I know both of ours has supported.
Perhaps it's a stock ROM issue that has the M9 blacklisted... anybody else get this line from Cricket or ATT? Or do I need to talk to somebody not local who knows what they're looking at. While I'd love to upgrade to 5G (and given how rough it's been, likely on a different carrier), the only phones in budget I can't get good cases for, and my line of work is rough on phones...
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This week I'm getting blackballed into finally upgrading from my old fleet of M9's.
Anyway, my wife smoked her M9 (GPU/display driver failure, she was running Linage 17). I had a spare M9 (I have three total, hers, mine, and the spare, all Att model M9's), moved over the SIM, get a message from Cricket that I need to re-register the SIM. Ok, go to the store yesterday, they tell me it can't be activated (and my phone is soon to die) because "it's a 3G phone". I assume they meant no VoLTE... which as far as I know both of ours has supported.
Perhaps it's a stock ROM issue that has the M9 blacklisted... anybody else get this line from Cricket or ATT? Or do I need to talk to somebody not local who knows what they're looking at. While I'd love to upgrade to 5G (and given how rough it's been, likely on a different carrier), the only phones in budget I can't get good cases for, and my line of work is rough on phones...
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Did you find a solution to this?
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This week I'm getting blackballed into finally upgrading from my old fleet of M9's.
Anyway, my wife smoked her M9 (GPU/display driver failure, she was running Linage 17). I had a spare M9 (I have three total, hers, mine, and the spare, all Att model M9's), moved over the SIM, get a message from Cricket that I need to re-register the SIM. Ok, go to the store yesterday, they tell me it can't be activated (and my phone is soon to die) because "it's a 3G phone". I assume they meant no VoLTE... which as far as I know both of ours has supported.
Perhaps it's a stock ROM issue that has the M9 blacklisted... anybody else get this line from Cricket or ATT? Or do I need to talk to somebody not local who knows what they're looking at. While I'd love to upgrade to 5G (and given how rough it's been, likely on a different carrier), the only phones in budget I can't get good cases for, and my line of work is rough on phones...
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I have an AT&T branded M9 with Android 7 firmware update 4.27.502.7 on it and everything works fine on H2O wireless which is on AT&T. I did have to get them to provision the line for VoLTE first
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Did you find a solution to this?
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No, I moved to T-Mobile (and a pair of OnePlus Nord N10's) and called it a day. Good riddance to Cricket/Att!