hey guys, im getting my touch pro the moment it releases for alltel on the 22nd and i was wondering what ROM i can use that will make the phone run as fast as possible... im even ok with an os that gets rid of the touch flo 3d stuff... (i sort of prefer my htc 6800's os anyways).
FuzzyLumpkins said:
hey guys, im getting my touch pro the moment it releases for alltel on the 22nd and i was wondering what ROM i can use that will make the phone run as fast as possible... im even ok with an os that gets rid of the touch flo 3d stuff... (i sort of prefer my htc 6800's os anyways).
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how do you know its the 22nd for alltel? i havent kept too up to date on it recently, but i was still under the impression there was no release date...
anyways, touchflo3d is basically just big a today plugin. so if you dont want it all you do is disable it. the OS is the same as you have on your 6800, just maybe a different build number. touchflo3d does not make your OS any different though, its just an interface.
Well first of all, 3 days ago every single alltel store in the us received boxes of Touch Pro accessories, go look on the walls and see for yourself. =P. Also thats what the tech at the store told me.
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THANKS! good ol mfg warranty may save me $599...this second replacement phone wants to get all buggy, i know it.
I am holding the alltel touch pro in my hand. Here is a list of programs on there. if anyone wnat to know anything let me know.
alltel version - no wifi, can it be enabled?
on the alltel touch pro, anyone know if it is wi-fi radio is still on the phone, is the wifi completely removed from the phone.
Can it be turned on?
jaselk said:
on the alltel touch pro, anyone know if it is wi-fi radio is still on the phone, is the wifi completely removed from the phone.
Can it be turned on?
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wifi is still on the phone and it can be turned on using Comm Mgr
alltel version of touch - wifi removed?
ok, now i am confused, can someone else confirm this? I spoke to alltel customer service lady, who said wi-fi was not on the alltel touch pro.
I know it is on the sprint version.
thanks
I got my TouchPro from Alltel yesterday. I can confirm that Wi-Fi is on the device and is accessible through comm manager.
I enabled it and hooked up to my work network, which is WPA protected, with no problems at all.
alltel touch pro - wifi enabled
LCJ_Eric said:
I got my TouchPro from Alltel yesterday. I can confirm that Wi-Fi is on the device and is accessible through comm manager.
I enabled it and hooked up to my work network, which is WPA protected, with no problems at all.
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Well, since your positive it is on the phone, i will go ahead and order it. Thanks for your help.
So . . . . getting back to the original question - what ROM should we Alltel folks be using? Thanks all.
guys can you confirm your RAM/ROM on your Alltel device.
i know the Verizon Pro got shorted quite a bit on memory and wanted to know what was installed. Alltel's site, as normal, includes no detailed specs.
Overall...do you like the device..would you recommend. I'm probably ordering mine tomorrow.
thanks
Jason
My Alltel TP shows:
Storage: 330.76 MB
Program: 203.24 MB
My only gripe is battery life. Of course, my 6800 sucked juice like crazy when I first got it too. Hopefully between tweaks & ROM & Radio updates it will start lasting longer.
billblack said:
My Alltel TP shows:
Storage: 330.76 MB
Program: 203.24 MB
My only gripe is battery life. Of course, my 6800 sucked juice like crazy when I first got it too. Hopefully between tweaks & ROM & Radio updates it will start lasting longer.
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thanks Bill. sounds like it has the normal 288 available.
i have an acquaintance who is an Alltel engineer and he acted like he didnt like it much. said it was really gimmicky. didnt like the touch flo at all.
anyways..i guess im ordering tomorrow. im sure it will be Alltel's Flagship device for at least a year.
thanks
Will the cooked Verizon ROMs work with the Alltel Touch Pro? Thanks.
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if anyone knows where i can download the rom for the new Sprint HTC Touch, i'd like to try and install it on my Sprint HTC Mogul. Thanks!
The drivers are going to be different....
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The drivers are going to be different....
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Drivers? Active Sync will recognize it, not sure what you mean by drivers
Different hardware.
The OS wont even flash (I tried)...
halfdriven said:
Drivers? Active Sync will recognize it, not sure what you mean by drivers
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I'm talking about device drivers dude, like for the keyboard and stuff that are in the ROM...
funny thing is that i saw the touch in person today... and i already have most of what the touch has... lol.. oh well..
Yeash, but what we don't have that the touch has is 65Mb of Free RAM when you boot!
is anyone working on a touch rom with the cube for the mogul?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqfeO7RAKOE
Im getting my mogul today...sometimes i think i should have gotten a Touch...however the keypad is what sold me for the Mogul. Ill try the touchflo once i get the mogul.
So is the "Touch" LCD different from the one on the Mogul, thus making the screen on the "Touch" more responsive?
How is Texting on the Touch?
I Need That Touch Program On My Phone Can Someone Help Me Please!!!
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Yeash, but what we don't have that the touch has is 65Mb of Free RAM when you boot!
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Actually it is more like 69-71Mb on boot. It slowly drops down to like 65Mb free after about a day opening and closing applications. My battery actually dies before the memory leak gets so bad that it actually slows down my phone.
I really wish there was a way to get a RAM upgrade for you guys. Everyone should have this kind of memory on their phone.
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Hey guys i have a sprint htc touch but surching i fount a udate from alltel to make the gps work i did it but i just want to put it back into sprint sofware can you help me please...everything is alltel i dont want that (sprint rom or something).
My brand new mogul is having issues and Sprint is replacing. However they told me they couldn't ship me a PPC 6800 for some reason but they would upgrade me to PPC 6900 for free. I thought sweet, right? Then looked it up I realized it was the touch. My question is, is this really an upgrade? Should I be upset? The touch looks cool but no keyboard....
Should I try and complain?
Also, I unlocked my phone to use the new roms. Should I relock it or shouldn't it really matter. I will just flash back to the sprint rom.
Thanks
I wouldn't accept a Touch as an "upgrade" to the Mogul. Do you have any Sprint stores around you (the Authorized resellers, not just the ones that sell Sprint stuff)? If so, take your phone in to them and see if they can swap for you. I know from experience that pretty much every store I go into gives me a slightly different story, so chances are the store would tell you something different than Sprint Customer Support on the phone.
Definitely put a stock rom back on. Relocking would probably be a good idea too, but not as big an issue.
the touch is deffinetly not an upgrade to the mogul, other than the 128mb of ram, however i'd rather have the wifi and keyboard on the mogul, than 128mb of ram and no wifi/keyboard on the touch
jarmenti said:
the touch is deffinetly not an upgrade to the mogul, other than the 128mb of ram, however i'd rather have the wifi and keyboard on the mogul, than 128mb of ram and no wifi/keyboard on the touch
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im getting a touch im sick of my huge titan i dont need a keyborad or wifi i like the touch and the way it looks and the ram
The more I read about it the better it looks. If I don't like it I will complain and see what happens. I really don't care about wifi cause how often do you really use it. I do care about the GPS and it should be unlocked shortly with the next update. I really like the RAM though. My mogul always ran low on memory. But we will see. I should have it in the morning.........
I would say it's a case of personal preference, but I certainly wouldn't call it an upgrade...even with the smaller amount of RAM, I personally would take the Mogul over the Touch any day.
And DEFINITELY flash the stock ROM back on to it!
Well ive finally done it ive had my mogul for almost 1year and i had an apache for like 2months (we got last ones before they got replaced with moguls at the sprint store) then we switched to the mogul my sisters are envious of the apps i have on my phone but i dont have alot. Im looking for all the must have apps for an 11 year old so just throw some in there that you really really like! Excuse my geek abbrivations xD
And yes ive searched around.
You might want to try the regular mogul forum. This forum is dedicated to upgrading the mogul's ROM.
why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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Yeah, that's something that I would never want activated on a network..
A PDA? Great, letting a kid play is best for development.. Many of us here started quite young. My first comp was an Atari 400 at the age of 9. But a data capable cell phone? With the first HST modems I remember all the trouble that I got into..... To a long term investigation leading to the RCMP hauling me out of class and parents called in from their work. The advantages of being a minor but a later demonstration of CSIS' incompetence in passing me for a security check. I do miss my youth....
I had my first phone when i was in 3rd grade but it was an old direct connect that got surpassed by the i580 from nextel and in 5th grade i got samsung then i got the apache cause my dad got 5 and got them for like 200 each cause we got 5 then when he realized they went out of sale at sprint and got surpassed by the mogul he got them all switched. And the only one in my family that actually can WORK ELECTRONICS. As most ppl would say plz keep on topic.
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I had my first phone when i was in 3rd grade but it was an old direct connect that got surpassed by the i580 from nextel and in 5th grade i got samsung then i got the apache cause my dad got 5 and got them for like 200 each cause we got 5 then when he realized they went out of sale at sprint and got surpassed by the mogul he got them all switched. And the only one in my family that actually can WORK ELECTRONICS. As most ppl would say plz keep on topic.
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Lucky you. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 17 (had to work for it -_-).
Anyways I would recommend you get a GPS anti-theft program because you never know when other kids steal your phone or if you dropped it or if you forgot it somewhere. You could always pull up the location of the phone. But watch out, your parents could also use it to keep tabs on you
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Lucky you. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 17 (had to work for it -_-).
Anyways I would recommend you get a GPS anti-theft program because you never know when other kids steal your phone or if you dropped it or if you forgot it somewhere. You could always pull up the location of the phone. But watch out, your parents could also use it to keep tabs on you
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Any in mind?
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why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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A phone: It depends on the person and what you do. A mogul: maybe not, but then if there's a few in the family.... It's also a nice internet device with Opera and Skyfire (though I can't get the beta yet...)
But people are getting technology younger and younger. Also these 2 year contracts and timing of the year effect how old you get your phone. I was 13 when I got mine for christmas and now I'm 15 and I got the voyager, but I had it switched for an XV6800 (which ended up being cheaper). Now I can't go back to a 'dumb-phone' Though I'm still hoping for an iPhone in a couple years can't imagine what it will be like then!
So as far as apps go: I use my phone for productivity and what not and I like customizing my phone. So for me there's Total Commander and I use the HTC Home plugin. Also I like the touch-esque comm manager and dial pad.
Also if you've got the latest sprint updates you can try something like Navizon which uses the GPS to map WiFi and cell towers. It sounds like a lot, but every 10,000 points you get $15 in cash. Currently, Navizon won't let Mogul and Titan variants map cell towers because of a system bug. So earning point may take a bit longer, but with the wireless age there's so many WiFi spots. I you use it could you click the link in my sig.
Also check some stuff out at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net
Hey-
I see that everyone decided to use your thread to criticize you for having a phone instead of just answering you question. Kinda lame.
Anyway, here is what I have:
-WM 6.1 for the threaded SMS
-S2U2 for full screen picture caller ID
-SPB mobile shell with Robodad's skin- makes the phone a lot easier to use. I like flashy and simple and mobile shell does both
-Google Maps and Live Search - Great when your out and need to fins a store or something nearby and finding cheap gas (dont think this really applies to you)
-Emerstec Jbed and Opera Mini - Great web browser
-Sprint Navigation - Good turn by turn directions for your gps. It is free with alot of sprint plans
- Sprint TV - This is really cool. It is currently working on the Mogul so enjoy while you can.
-WMWifiRouter - so that I can get internet on my laptop while I am out.
-Core player with Youtube bundle - so I can watch youtube videos
-Oxios Hibernate - Run it if your phone is being SLOW
-Advance configuration and nueLED - Just to tweak certain settings to my liking.
Hope this helps man. Let us know if you have any other questions. That is the point of this forum.
I was wondering if there was anyway to unlock the gps on verizon's touch pro so that I can use it with googlemaps and other gps enabled apps. If there isn't a way to do it, is there any development on a way to unlock it?
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I was wondering if there was anyway to unlock the gps on verizon's touch pro so that I can use it with googlemaps and other gps enabled apps. If there isn't a way to do it, is there any development on a way to unlock it?
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I am sure they need to figure out how to unlock the phone first. Thats still in development for our phones. Once that is done I am more than sure somone will have it unlocked shortly after. Just keep checking the threads and we will see an announcement by someone. I am even sure we will see more than one thread on it.
How about Skywing's
I don't have a TP to try this on yet. Been watching this forum in anticipation of moving up (?) from a xv6800.
Has anyone tried Skywing's hack to see if it works on a TP? In one of his posts, Skywing stated that he didn't see why his hack wouldn't work on any stock Verizon 6.1 install.
Just a thought . . .
The posted bits will not work on the xv6850 due to some timing differences with how the GPS driver initialization works. There is no value in using those bits on the xv6850.
The posted bits were stated to work with the xv6800 and not any Verizon device with WM6.1. Some people have claimed success with the xv6900, but I cannot speak to any possible success or failure with that device. They will not work on the xv6850.
I already tried to install Skywings fix and as soon as I click Use GPS in Google maps, it locks the phone beyond recovery.
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I already tried to install Skywings fix and as soon as I click Use GPS in Google maps, it locks the phone beyond recovery.
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I installed Skywings Vallhala cab. it opened up or unlocked the GPS so it was discoverable by OnCourse navigator 8 but wouldn't actually work or find satellites. It didn't lock up my device or do any harm whatsoever. I guess I'll stick to my bluetooth receiver for the time being....
yeah my phone froze up too when i tried using GPS in google maps after installing vallhala.cab. i think it's gonna need a little something more than just using the same hack for the xv6800. i really hope someone is in the process of development.
From what I understand its just figuring out how to unlock the unit then after that its easy to do whatever you want
Has anyone been able to do anything in QPST or does the phone need to unlocked to use QPST?
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From what I understand its just figuring out how to unlock the unit then after that its easy to do whatever you want
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No, not quite. Hait to burst everyone's buble but its not quite that simple. The phone has been unlocked just not released to us. They have GPS up and running but only with VZNav. They are trying to work with GC for a GPS solution.
I can thoerize that this will only work with a fix from Valhalla.
It has alot to do with how the PRI's are preset. To make a long story short they have sort of proved this by flashing a new radio from sprint and it still wasnt "unlocked" Same thing wiht the titan would happen after MR1. The only thing that could revert the PRI back was a revert to a non GPS radio. Then back up to a GPS radio with a standard PRI instead of the VZ locked. From there you were good.
Well there is no pre-gps radio to revert back to for the Raph. Thats why I feel we will end up going an emulation route. The drivers are differnt than that titan which is why all of our phones crashed with his fix. Or most anyways. We need him to create a utility for us until someone figured out how to "cure" the PRi issue.
I may not have used the exact correct terminology in this post. Im more of a ROM guy than a GPS / Radio guy but this is how I understand it. Someone correct me please if I am wrong. And I deperately hope I am wrong on this one (Although I had no doubt in my mind when the phone was introduced this was to be the case. They were basically beta testing the GPS system with the Titan and Vogue. Sit back and think about).
Here is the thread I am reffering to:
NexVision's VzW TP ROM
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=47774
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Has anyone been able to do anything in QPST or does the phone need to unlocked to use QPST?
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The version of QPST I have sees the phone but doesnt knwo what type it is. I selected the only profile that had GPS one and it "seemed" to work but I wasnt about to test it by writing to the phone.
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I installed Skywings Vallhala cab. it opened up or unlocked the GPS so it was discoverable by OnCourse navigator 8 but wouldn't actually work or find satellites. It didn't lock up my device or do any harm whatsoever. I guess I'll stick to my bluetooth receiver for the time being....
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As posted in the thread on the Titan forum, those binaries won't work out of the box on the xv6850.
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As posted in the thread on the Titan forum, those binaries won't work out of the box on the xv6850.
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Thanks Skywing... Long time wm user but totally unfamiliar with what you guys do here.
Will a gps fix for this phone be a reality inthe near future or should I just forget about it?
looks like verizon is actually going to unlock GPS on most new phones including the HTC Touch Pro in the first half of 2009
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looks like verizon is actually going to unlock GPS on most new phones including the HTC Touch Pro in the first half of 2009
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I can only hope so. That will be awesome
Those of you looking for the GPS to be unlocked might be interested in reading this post.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=48256
^^ I was about to post that too, looks like a GREAT start!! I'm holding out for a more definitive fix though.
Well the fix has been posted on the link two posts above.
Actually, it has been moved to this thread by Bored.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=49933
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^^ I was about to post that too, looks like a GREAT start!! I'm holding out for a more definitive fix though.
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Well you got what you asked for
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Well you got what you asked for
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Been running boreds fix for nearly 24 hours and I am GOLDEN!
Try his fix on my VZ NAv ROM 1.0 and you will not be disapointed ;c)
Currently I have a Storm that has a defective screen. Verizon has sent me the trifecta of consecutive defective phones. They now asked me to find another phone. I was told any phone but the Blackberry Tour. Prior to the Storm I had a 6800 with VZW. However, after multiple issues I had to give it up.
Things I miss now on the Storm is App selection, physical keyboard and WIFI at Times. I guess most important is customization. I flashed many roms on my 6800 to open the GPS, speed it up and allow for tethering. Here are my questions I have and feel free to offer your thoughts.
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
4. How is battery life?
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
6. Your thoughts?
Thanks for the input.
I don't hate verizion... they just suck.
If I were you I wouldn't get the touch pro through verizion. They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard. So even if you flashed the bejesus out of it, it would still have three strikes against it in my book. That and the fact that you pay the same price as the one at sprint and you don't get the memory card, headset, and if memory serves the screen protecters. Verizions touch pro is at approx. 70% memory usage just because it has the touch flow interface on, while sprints remain at about 32% under the same conditions.
*I think there was some lawsuit about the GPS bit, but i don't remember the outcome of that.
Sorry that i can't answer any of your other questions but i felt that you needed to know. So... Yeah, don't get the touch pro through verizion.
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If I were you I wouldn't get the touch pro through verizion. They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard. So even if you flashed the bejesus out of it, it would still have three strikes against it in my book. That and the fact that you pay the same price as the one at sprint and you don't get the memory card, headset, and if memory serves the screen protecters. Verizions touch pro is at approx. 70% memory usage just because it has the touch flow interface on, while sprints remain at about 32% under the same conditions.
*I think there was some lawsuit about the GPS bit, but i don't remember the outcome of that.
Sorry that i can't answer any of your other questions but i felt that you needed to know. So... Yeah, don't get the touch pro through verizion.
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Exactly. If you're gung-ho (or on contract) about VZW, I'd wait on their version of the TP2. I believe it's a world phone, which the original TP is not, and not only is it uncrippled I believe, it also offers a 3.5mm headphone jack which other versions may still be using the extUSB connection only.
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Currently I have a Storm that has a defective screen. Verizon has sent me the trifecta of consecutive defective phones. They now asked me to find another phone. I was told any phone but the Blackberry Tour. Prior to the Storm I had a 6800 with VZW. However, after multiple issues I had to give it up.
Things I miss now on the Storm is App selection, physical keyboard and WIFI at Times. I guess most important is customization. I flashed many roms on my 6800 to open the GPS, speed it up and allow for tethering. Here are my questions I have and feel free to offer your thoughts.
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
4. How is battery life?
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
6. Your thoughts?
Thanks for the input.
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I will answer your questions one by one...
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
Ans: I do not know about the 6800, but the process is rather simple.
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
Ans: I do not see why it shouldn't. If the GPS is there and it only has a software lock, then erasing all of the software should take care of the problem.
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
Ans: They will always see the data usage on your plan. So, if they see large amounts of data being used by your account, they might end up assuming that you are tethering. Other than that, I don't think they can detect it (I could be dead wrong though).
4. How is battery life?
Ans: If it is anything like Sprint's TP, it sucks badly. Having said that, different roms use resources in different ways (normally far more efficiently than stock roms), so depending on the rom that you decide to flash, it is bound to get better.
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
Ans: It really depends on the network. The In-Call volume can be (and should be) tweaked by a small fix called "Audio Boost". If you do not use this, I can guarantee you that you will not be able to hear the person on the other side. Call quality in general is not too bad though...
6. Your thoughts?
Ans: I have not seen it in Verizon TP, but the Sprint TP develops something called "Newton Rings" on the screen. Basically, this is a rainbow looking rectangle in the middle of your screen (think of an oil slick). This is an issue that can render the touchscreen useless. This happens simply because the phone gets so damned hot when you use it for anything (GPS, Internet, calls, etc) that the screen gets warped and starts coming out of the phone. Your provider (and even HTC) will say that this happens due to applying too much pressure on the screen, which is BS. If you look this up in PPCGeeks you will see a rather long thread about this same exact issue.
All in all, I would not go for it. You could do what level5music is suggesting and wait for the TP2. Who knows? It could be better or just as ****ty
Hope this helps...
I had the touch pro and switched to the storm...then i switched back to the touch pro. Trust me, the touch pro is worlds better. You will come to hate the blackberry os, as i have. I thought windows mobile was bad...then I flashed to wm 6.5 yesterday after never doing it before. Its way easier to flash with xp in my opinion as I could not get it to work on vista, it always said it disconnected, but maybe its just my machine. But yes, you should get the storm, you wont get push email, but you get a KEYBOARD!
i love windows mobile but i wouldnt trade a storm for a verizon touch pro. it blows period. verizon took a great device and criples it to no better than a vga mogul, crippled cpu (note, the touch pro has enough perfomance issues already so this is worse) no g-sensor, funky keyboard with a misplaced "m" letter key, half the ram and crippled gps. i you want a touch pro, id get a sprint one and flash to verizon, otherwise the bb storm is the better choice imo
wait for the pro 2
Verizon has gimped the touch pro as far as RAM goes. (half of what other providers sell)
The problem with custom roms is that most of them will be set for pagepool designed for more ram.
There has been a new ROM released by verizon that unlocks the built in GPS. This is a good sign. I know people here are saying wait for a touch pro 2, but since verizon wouldn't allow you to get a tour i doubt they will allow a TP2.
I used a sprint version until recently and i got my palm pre to work on verizon
I've used a curve before too. I always miss my TP, even with my palm pre (not nearly enough apps yet)
If you have no choice and need a new device, verizons current offerings are weak, Id go with the TP.
The verizon keyboard is also messed up... the put the "up" key in between n and m keys.
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They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard.
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Wrong, how can you confuse 2 columns for 3 rows?
my bad.
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Wrong, how can you confuse 2 columns for 3 rows?
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i'm sorry that two words out of my entire rant were wrong. my apoligies.
Save yourself the headache - i have a TP and hate it.
Been using the TP now for about 3 months. I absolutely hate this phone. There were all kinds of bugs in the stock rom, and I still haven't been able to find a ROM where everything just works. The phone is slow, buggy, and the screen really sucks. IMO.
I am currently debating the switch to Tmobile to get an android handset or the iPhone. I have always carried WinMo phones, but I just can't take the grief this one is giving me.
It looks like I am not the only one that has given the same advice. Avoid the TP at all costs unless you can get one for free.
Verizon sucks...but still a great phone.
To be honest HTC & Microsoft are the way of the future. I have a Touch Pro and my wife has a Touch Pro. We both love them sure it has its issues but what phone doesn't?? Before we got the Touch Pro, we both had Moguls and loved those and can't wait to upgrade to the Touch Pro2. I would try to wait for the Touch Pro2 if I were you and I would definitly run and hide from any Blackberry, Palm or Apple phone.
not many people have a problem with the touch pro itself, but the you are missing out on so much if you get the verizion version.
I agree with the others.
I have the TP for Sprint (using JD's latest beta ROM) and love it!!! With saying that..... there are a few things that need to be improved..... with the battery being the main one.
All in all the device is really easy to flash and to maintain, and so far it has served me well........ but my next phone will be an Android phone....... as soon as Sprint gets Android....