Im fairly new to all of this, I have upgraded my phone to the latest DCD build and radio but was wondering about the CDMA. I found a CDMA file and was wondering if I need to use that as well? Phone seems to work fine as it is. Is the CDMA just another word for the Radio? Oh and thank for the great build DCD, much better than my carrier (Bell) why Bell doesn't support their phones as much as the other providers I will never understand. I do miss some of the features that the stock rom had but I much prefer a OS that is stable and fast.
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Im fairly new to all of this, I have upgraded my phone to the latest DCD build and radio but was wondering about the CDMA. I found a CDMA file and was wondering if I need to use that as well? Phone seems to work fine as it is. Is the CDMA just another word for the Radio? Oh and thank for the great build DCD, much better than my carrier (Bell) why Bell doesn't support their phones as much as the other providers I will never understand. I do miss some of the features that the stock rom had but I much prefer a OS that is stable and fast.
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CDMA is another term for radio as you stated. Well, it means alot more than that. But in essence.....
CDMA is the type of technology your phone uses. GSM is another different technology as is IDEN. Its like laser disc, VHS and dvds. All play videos, just different technologies to interpret the data.
That was a bad analogy!
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Oh and thank for the great build DCD, much better than my carrier (Bell) why Bell doesn't support their phones as much as the other providers I will never understand. I do miss some of the features that the stock rom had but I much prefer a OS that is stable and fast.
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I'm a bell user too and have to ask, what could you possibly miss from the original rom?
I'm not sure, but my theory on Bell's support is it is costly. Why test and maintain updates when it will not make profit. The stock bell titan has no GPS. I think they find it cheaper to sell you a new phone with GPS than to send an update to activate GPS.
Thanks for all the info. About the only thing I really miss from the stock rom is the today plugin for windows live and MP4 playback through media player. Bell can enable the GPS on this phone with their stock rom but you need to pay for the service as far as I know. Bell is like this with all their services though, you get stuck with old and outdated products to force you into buying new. I'm holding out on my current contract, Shaw has recently purchased wireless rights, they wont start that up for another 3 years or so, just in time for my Bell contract to end. Had quite the many issues with Bell and their shady business practices.
Not sure about the MP4 support on other roms, but I have windows live available on my phone. You need to find the Windows Live Cab. This way, you can install both the mail, messenger and all the extra Today screen stuff.
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why Bell doesn't support their phones as much as the other providers I will never understand.
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Frankly? Because Bell sucks. I use Bell and I happen to like their service and phones offered. The software support they offer is terrible though. Here is the response from a Bell official on the reason for not offering unlocked GPS for the Titan (Bell PPC-6800):
Its not that we are lying about the functions of device, when we spec each phone for launch, every component and functionality is tested for quality on our network. With the 6800 the quality of the GPS was not up to our standard, so it was partially locked out. Our hardware development group was not confident enough in the GPS of this device to allow it to be used on our network. With many Windows devices, freezing and stalling become an issue, with the 6800 the GPS radio causes the device to stall, we were not able to resolve that issue, therefore a decision was made that the key functionalities of the device should be preserved. Google maps should still work on the phone. We will not be releasing an updated ROM on that device as it is now end of life. My apologies, but that is a decision that was made by other parties that I have no influence over. I hope this clarifies this for you.
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This is obviously BS because the GPS works just fine on the network with DCD's ROM. I get no freezing or locking up that they speak of. Anyway, FYI...Bell will never unlock GPS on the Titan.
joemorin73 said:
Not sure about the MP4 support on other roms, but I have windows live available on my phone. You need to find the Windows Live Cab. This way, you can install both the mail, messenger and all the extra Today screen stuff.
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For some reason or another DCD's rom doesnt support movie playback taken with the camera. I couldnt find anything at all for live, when I did find one it refused to install, I do have the one live program with all the maps and directions stuff, using palringo for IM but of course I cannot access my hotmail through the built in messaging program. They are small sacrifices though considering how well built and phone friendly DCD's rom is.
I know Bell will never unlock it, wouldn't be cost effective for them to do it with an older phone. They cant afford to lose anymore money than they already have. I find it funny that with all the stuff Bell does they manage to stay afloat. they don't make any money off of all their other services, only their wireless. Having a bit of an inside look at how they work and their practices it is very surprising. What gets me though is when this phone was the latest and greatest thing in the market Bell was the only provider who did not fully support the phone. Telus, Verizon, Sprint and even small mom and pop providers released more updates that the monster that is Bell.
Hi, I would suggest you use the kitchen for DCD 3.2.6
It allows playback of MP4 files in Windows Media Player and you can install Windows Live.
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Hi, I would suggest you use the kitchen for DCD 3.2.6
It allows playback of MP4 files in Windows Media Player and you can install Windows Live.
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windows live uses a cab, easy to install. and mp4 playback in WMP is not that big of a deal, because one, WMP is terrible, and two, TCPMP supports it, and several other file types.
i don't see why people can't live without a kitchen
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There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
There's no lack of GPS anymore But there is a lack of being able to send pictures!
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If your an engineer with Sprint...tell us what the holdup is.
I'd love to know what can be so baffleing to the entire company that months and months of work can't figure out.
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There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
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so you work for sprint... and yet we have the gps update and you dont... hmm...
lucy, you got some splainin to do
LOL...............
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There is a reason it's not out yet, it's not even close to being released yet. There are problems that are being worked on in the ROM update. I can tell you that you probably won't see an update officialy released until maybe the end of march. How do I know this you ask? I am an engineer with sprint. I myself have the Mogul and am frustrated with the lack of GPS etc.
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If you're an actual engineer with Sprint, maybe you could tell us what we will be expecting from this new ROM, besides Rev A and GPS. Are the rumors running around here true about:
Windows 6.1
Sprint TV
etc.
Please enlighten us.......... It's driving us INSANE!
So, come on...level with us Chubz.
You're running DCD 2.x.x too, aren't you?!?!?
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So, come on...level with us Chubz.
You're running DCD 2.x.x too, aren't you?!?!?
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I'm thinking about moving to DCD's WM6.1 ROM because I'm so tired of waiting for the official release. The only thing stopping me is the SD card not working yet for it.
gimme a break this dude comes in here and spews out some garble about how hes an engineer COUGH COUGH he dont even know about the gps that WE all have already. Dude go somewhere else and play, none of us in here fell off the potato truck last knight. in fact I think i hear your mom calling you.
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I'm thinking about moving to DCD's WM6.1 ROM because I'm so tired of waiting for the official release. The only thing stopping me is the SD card not working yet for it.
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If the mem card problem is stopping you then use no2chems, he had some issues with the mem card in an earlier build but the new one works just fine
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so you work for sprint... and yet we have the gps update and you dont... hmm...
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you have the gps update from a "leaked" or cooked ROM
Anyway the reason for the holdup is that they need it to run stable. Obvioudly it will run the new apps fine, but then the speaker might not work etc...
the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
It's nice to see Sprint being so concerned and cautious with their update. But then again, you work for Sprint, so shouldn't your statement be, "...we need it to run stable..." ?
Anyway, in the immortal words of Wayne, "Yeah... right... and monkeys might fly out my butt!"
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If the mem card problem is stopping you then use no2chems, he had some issues with the mem card in an earlier build but the new one works just fine
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i think DCDs 2.2.6 fixed the SD card issue, although my understanding it was only a problem if you used encryption (my SD card worked on all dcd roms)
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the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
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"I'll believe that when my s*&t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert!"
Honestly, we know how this will go.. you claim it'll have SprintTv, then when it doesn't come out with Sprint TV, then one of 2 things will happen...
1) You don't reply to questions directed toward you because you're full of bologna
2) You do reply, and give us some bologna about how Sprint decided to not include it for some oddball reason.
If Sprint TV really does get put on a ROM in the future, then i'll give you respect, but until it happens, you can't just come into a community spouting off fiction hoping that people will think you're cool.. Honestly. Like i said, if you are who you say you are, then you'll get respect when what you say happens!
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you have the gps update from a "leaked" or cooked ROM
Anyway the reason for the holdup is that they need it to run stable. Obvioudly it will run the new apps fine, but then the speaker might not work etc...
the official rom will obviously have:
GPS
Sprint TV
6.1
and supposedly a better task manager. Also help out the memory leak problem.
REV A
The sprint touch may get the GPS and REV A update first
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I thought the Touch didnt have the GPS antenna? Or is it just Wi-Fi?
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i think DCDs 2.2.6 fixed the SD card issue, although my understanding it was only a problem if you used encryption (my SD card worked on all dcd roms)
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I can also confirm that I had no problems with DCD's ROM...
Back on topic, since all the good quotes have been taken, I'll believe this when I see it. I mean, it would be nice, but the day the OEM's give us a good ROM (that can't be made better by the likes of DCD, No2Chem, etc) is the day I stop using all devices and move to a cabin in the mountains without power...
The Touch may get updated first? I'm beginning to wonder if the next official Mogul update comes pre-installed in a Mogul 2.
First post here (from my Mogul) but long time lurker. Just running 2.17 but I'm tempted to install a dcd. My main concern is the radio stability as I like to stream alot of audio.
chubzilla, you had to know when you posted who you were, you would take alot of shots from people on this site. There are alot of angry people here that have been waiting for sprint and HTC to get off there butts and fix the problems with the mogul.
I guess what I would like to see is an official response from sprint about the status of the ROM Update other than "Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008."
Outdated information like this just inflames customers.
just my 2 pennies
HI guys, I'm an engineer in TF2. Someone is zappin my sentury.
Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
DCD is way ahead of the curb to any software release from any company, with his software it pays in spades what you originally got from the phone out of the box. GPS, PAN, DUN, sting SMS, faster better use of CPU and RAM the list is endless. hands down DCD's ROM is the industry standard.
the added value to the phone is nothing short of outstanding.
no question. dcd.
There is absolutely no way you can dobetter than DCD's Roms.
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Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
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Oh boy, don't get me started. Read my rants in the thread I started about the official release. The only think worse you could do to your phone other than putting the VZW release on it is running it over with your car after pulling it out of the back of a dump truck thats filled with molten lava, uranium, and fast flying neutrino radiation. I would rather try conjuring the spirits of my dead grand mother in hopes that she could build a better ROM than this crappy, late to the game, outdated months before it came out, non supported, lacking GPS , bullsh*t ass VZW ROM.
I guess what I am trying to say is I would go with DCD's ROM ;c)
DISCLAIMER: Before anyone gets offended, this is solely my opinion (granted taken to an extreme!). Thank you for taking the time to view.
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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Hey, that is a good point I didn't think about. We can use this to flash if we hose our phones.
lafester said:
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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LOL
Why do people continue to insist that the phone GPS is all that and a side of fries?
Has it ever occurred to you that some people dont give a rat's behind about GPS functionality on their phone? Guess what, I dont - I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
Its not all about GPS you know - imagine that? There is a universe where things other than GPS is important
I've also tried a few of dcd's roms - great stuff - no doubt about it. But for the apps I run, the stock ROM seems to be better - blows your mind, I know.
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LOL
I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
indagroove said:
What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
Well, I asked. I have never ran one of those programs so I have no idea how they compare to stock/DCD roms.
I use my device like a "toy" as much as I use it for e-mail, Excel editing and other business type applications.
Thanks for educating us.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?
I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?...
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
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Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
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Point well taken - my apologies
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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EXACTLY! Thats what I've been saying all along - depending on your needs, the stock rom will be fine or you may need to go with a custom rom
Now we are back on topic
My TomTom software pulls real-time traffic. Live Search can even pull the traffic in real time..provided you have a data connection.
That is the real difference, not that it cannot get the traffic but the method it does and if it costs anything. I got the unlimited data so it is a non-issue to me, but with a limited data plan a dedicated GPS will win out based on that function alone.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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What medical app runs better on a stock ROM than on a dcd ROM? Please name any specific app? Lexi-...? PocketMed? Harrison's? Even Epocrates?
If you're going to make this claim publicly, back it up with ANY specific app you've used which runs better on stock in your opinion so others can weigh in or test your claims. That's only fair when you're slandering dcd ROM's as better for "play" than "work." If you have "a number of..... apps that run better with the stock rom" surely you can name at least one, but I notice you don't.
I say, put up or shut up.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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Then why waste your time posting here then? If stock if great for you then why waste your time on a forum for making custom ROMs? I think the GPS in the Titan is just as good as any hand held. TomTom, Live Search, Google Maps and others all can receive realtime traffic through the standard data network. Also TomTom devices are Windows CE embedded devices and use bluetooth connection to a data phone for the real time traffic and other services. So for me having one unit that I can carry to do GPS, email (work and personal), Geocaching, Bible, and internet search is invaluable. Since VZW seems to want to charge for using the GPS then we have DCD. If you don't care about the internal GPS then be happy with the stock ROMs. Better or faster is a matter of opinion that is true, but if I don't have to deal with all the bloatware that comes with the stock ROM the less that will take up precious memory. For me DCD/GC has made my phone a tool that enables me to work outside of my office, it is definitely not a toy.
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I've read every page of this thread prior to posting. I read far more than I post by a long shot. I rarely post without listening (reading) first.
I posted because FM RDS is simply a data connection. Nothing more, Nothing less. With that in mind it would mean as long as the 6800 has a data connection it should show the same exact traffic information as a standalone "real" GPS device, unless either real-time traffic isn't a provided feature or the traffic provider prioritizes one device class over another.
Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
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I wasn't slamming you as being inaccurate in your usage findings. There are far too many variations of this device to be absolutely certain they don't have more than just cosmetic differences. I was just adding to the thread collective my experience of DCD being a LOT faster than stock. As I also pointed out, my experience with the Mogul doesn't run that long. I just recently moved to it from my HTC Wizard.
Although it does help if you cite specifics. Such as "App XYZ runs faster" or whatnot so someone else using it can chime in and agree or what not. Unless you wrote the app for yourself you can't assume none of us run it
I haven't been on a while, my DCD 3.2.6 has been running as smooth as ever.
Just noticed tonight though that HTC has released the 6.1 upgrade for Alltel users. HTC PPC6800 WM6.1 / LBS Update – Version 3.52.671.9
Probably won't leave my 3.2.6 has it's running smooth, but the upgrades from the HTC site include:
1. Upgrades the operating system from Windows Mobile. 6.0 Professional to Windows Mobile. 6.1 Professional.
2. Adds the ability to use the internal GPS of the handset for advanced location services such as Alltel Navigation, an application that provides audible turn-by-turn directions and business listings.
3. Includes updates for network speed, allowing the phone to use EVDO Rev A networks.
4. Adds all enhancements included in previous software maintenance releases.
Just wondered if any Alltel users have tried it.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=63&cat=2&dl_id=114
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I haven't been on a while, my DCD 3.2.6 has been running as smooth as ever.
Just noticed tonight though that HTC has released the 6.1 upgrade for Alltel users. HTC PPC6800 WM6.1 / LBS Update – Version 3.52.671.9
Probably won't leave my 3.2.6 has it's running smooth, but the upgrades from the HTC site include:
1. Upgrades the operating system from Windows Mobile. 6.0 Professional to Windows Mobile. 6.1 Professional.
2. Adds the ability to use the internal GPS of the handset for advanced location services such as Alltel Navigation, an application that provides audible turn-by-turn directions and business listings.
3. Includes updates for network speed, allowing the phone to use EVDO Rev A networks.
4. Adds all enhancements included in previous software maintenance releases.
Just wondered if any Alltel users have tried it.
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=63&cat=2&dl_id=114
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I am currently running it. As a matter of fact, I replaced DCD 3.2.6 with this one. It runs just as good and the GPS runs smooth. It also comes with ArcSoft 5.0.71.33. Alltel Navigation is the same navigation application most carriers are loading on thier phones (some version of TeleNav). Comes with a 30 day free trial and works good, but I will not pay the $9.95 a month to use it. When loaded, I have just as much free RAM as I did with DCDs ROM. I still like the work that DCD does, but I prefer a factory ROM if possible and so far this one gives me all that I was looking for.
interesting...thanks for your reply.
I've been running this for about a month now and it runs great!
Only bugs i've seen is sometimes when I get text messages I don't get the orange flashing light and it never vibrates...other than that it's pretty spiffy. I like the threaded txt messaging!
Dloe2679 said:
I've been running this for about a month now and it runs great!
Only bugs i've seen is sometimes when I get text messages I don't get the orange flashing light and it never vibrates...other than that it's pretty spiffy. I like the threaded txt messaging!
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Battery life is amazing 2 days with some use of gps calls txt and still at 70%
hope dcd can help by breaking this to down to kitchen but wish to thank dcd
for making my titan usable until this release.
I have been using the Alltel Rom since the day it was released (actually had it a couple days before it was added to the htc site thanks to this site). Its very smooth and I really like the newer arcsoft. So much easier to send texts. You can reply to Picture msges with a txt without leaving the msg box and creating a new one.
Very stable I have had no errors. It runs Skyfire a lot better as well.
Dloe2679 said:
I've been running this for about a month now and it runs great!
Only bugs i've seen is sometimes when I get text messages I don't get the orange flashing light and it never vibrates...other than that it's pretty spiffy. I like the threaded txt messaging!
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there is a setting under start menu>settings>sound and notifications, and select new text message in the drop down menu. it gives you options like flash LED or vibrate. that'll get it back for yaa
Thats enabled....most of the time it works like it's supposed to but sometimes it doesn't. Havent been able to figure it out yet. Maybe I just need to clear the few thousand txt msgs out hehe.
i thought you Alltel boys might want to know this. I'm fairly familiar with one of Alltel's engineer. He looked at my titan for about 30 minutes a few days and looked at some screens i've never seen. Now i'm not saying all phones on 3.2.6 are not Rev.A compatible, but i know the Alltel ones aren't. He said the "alltel people" were very familiar with DCD, NoChem, and other Roms and respected their work.
for some reason though he said their roms didn't enable Rev.A on the alltel network. This new ROM that they have out does...it shows up as rA on the phone instead of EV. Just thought you'd want to know.
To show you how much i love 3.2.6, i will still probably stay with it. It's the most stable ROM i've run, and i'm well appreciative of DCD's work on this stuff.
I'm running DCD now, but can someone tell me what version ARCSOFT was included with this official alltel rom??
THank you!
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... i'm not saying all phones on 3.2.6 are not Rev.A compatible, but i know the Alltel ones aren't. He said the "alltel people" were very familiar with DCD, NoChem, and other Roms and respected their work.
for some reason though he said their roms didn't enable Rev.A on the alltel network. This new ROM that they have out does...it shows up as rA on the phone instead of EV. Just thought you'd want to know.
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Just out of curiosity, what are the advantages of Rev.A over EV?
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i thought you Alltel boys might want to know this. I'm fairly familiar with one of Alltel's engineer. He looked at my titan for about 30 minutes a few days and looked at some screens i've never seen. Now i'm not saying all phones on 3.2.6 are not Rev.A compatible, but i know the Alltel ones aren't. He said the "alltel people" were very familiar with DCD, NoChem, and other Roms and respected their work.
for some reason though he said their roms didn't enable Rev.A on the alltel network. This new ROM that they have out does...it shows up as rA on the phone instead of EV. Just thought you'd want to know.
To show you how much i love 3.2.6, i will still probably stay with it. It's the most stable ROM i've run, and i'm well appreciative of DCD's work on this stuff.
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I'd say that is incorrect as long as you have the correct radio.
Alltel Official ROM
Dloe2679 said:
I'm running DCD now, but can someone tell me what version ARCSOFT was included with this official alltel rom??
THank you!
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The new Alltel official ROM comes with ArcSoft version 5.0.71.33. Lots of other changes too. I was running DCD 3.2.6 and decided to check out the new ROM from Alltel. It runs great with plenty of free RAM (around 17MB). It has the GPS enabled and comes with TeleNav, but I am using AmazeGPS.
Well....I'm running DCD now but I can't forward txt messages to multiple people...I am running that version of arcsoft as well. Looks like im going to go back to the official rom..No one seems to have any solutions to my issue..
ArcSoft 5.0.71.33 working great wanted to play so broke it down to a kitchen
added manila 2d and still run around 17mb free great rom excellent GPS
with Garmin XL if you would like to try the kitchen i made message me and i will share for beta testing purposes only not responsable for ant damage.
Just to confirm my brain is working right. I can extract the .nbh files out of the installer and us the SD card method to install these, right?
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Just to confirm my brain is working right. I can extract the .nbh files out of the installer and us the SD card method to install these, right?
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Yup.
Has anyone here managed to extract the Radio and flash it with working results?
I've been trying to do this myself and it flashes fine (via MicroSD) but then I get No Radio.
I'm using Dutty's NBHTool to extract it from the Special file, then making a NBH of the Radio only...
Anyone?
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I'd say that is incorrect as long as you have the correct radio.
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you say it's incorrect as you know from experience. Funny you say that. i have dcd 3.3.4 now and i was in Raleigh Durham with my office phone that we just installed the new official alltel ROM. He was running rA and i'm still on EVDO. Doesn't matter as much because i love dcd roms, and like i mentioned, i would assume one of alltel's top engineers might know a little bit more.
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you say it's incorrect as you know from experience. Funny you say that. i have dcd 3.3.4 now and i was in Raleigh Durham with my office phone that we just installed the new official alltel ROM. He was running rA and i'm still on EVDO. Doesn't matter as much because i love dcd roms, and like i mentioned, i would assume one of alltel's top engineers might know a little bit more.
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Did you actually test out the connection at speedtest.net?
If your uplink is over 200k, then you are revA regardless of what the screen says. Put another way, have you determined whether this is a display issue or an actual issue?
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Did you actually test out the connection at speedtest.net?
If your uplink is over 200k, then you are revA regardless of what the screen says. Put another way, have you determined whether this is a display issue or an actual issue?
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not sure about this one...i guess just in listening to the Alltel engineer (that actually runs alot of DCD and other cooked roms) he said he wasn't truly Rev.A. Just repeating what he said.
First of all, I apologize for being a PPC noob, but I asure you, my technical skills are high and my PC familiarity is high too. I have done alot of searching/learning on here and other forums (and the internet in general) and think I am ready to take the plunge.
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HTC 6800 Windows Mobile 6.0
ROM Version 2.17.557.0
Radio Version 1.64.00
ROM Date 11/20/07 (geesh, I just got the thing)
Garmin Mobile XT
Provider: Cellcom (non-major / tier 2 provider in Wisconsin. I get great coverage from them in the area I spend 99.99% of my life in)
Mostly I want yes or no's to the following questions, but if you want to educate me, believe me, it is appreciated. The potential of this device feels massive, but right now it is too cumbersome/unreliable (I am sick of soft rebooting this darn phone).
1) Is there any way to backup my phone in its entirity so if I need to revert to the carrier provided rom/config I can? Including can I revert back to my original bootloader?
2) Can I use the newest Sprint ROM on my phone (WinMob 6.1) even tho I am not a Sprint customer?
3) Would I be better off using one of the ROMs provided by this forum?
4) If I upgrade the phone, I should no longer need Garmin's bluetooth GPS transmitter, correct?
Thanks in advance to all who help. I see the potential of this tool and really want to try and unleash it.
Afternoon, onioneater! It sounds like you've got a generic ROM that is often used by minor, or local carriers (I'm down in Illinois with a local carrier, had the same ROM as you). There are many, many ROM upgrade options available for you. I talked with a technician from my carrier about upgrading, and as it turns out, you could probably flash to any major carrier ROM as long as you do not allow customizations to run. Check out the tutorial on flashing to custom ROMs over at the XDA Wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanRecentHome
Although I did not back up the original generic ROM, I wrote down all EPST and provisioning settings for somewhat of a backup. As I said above, a customer with my provider flashed to a major ROM, for Sprint, and got it to work. But there is a wide expanse of options with custom ROMs too. By the way, as long as the radio version is higher than 3.35, internal GPS is unlocked (newest Sprint ROM and most newer custom ROMs work on a radio of 3.35 or higher). Although with custom ROMs, you have to manually unlock the bootloader and manually install a radio with a MicroSD card that is 2GB or less. Check out the link above for more. On a side note - A few months ago I was in the exact same situation as you before, being a noob and all with a generic ROM - you can keep in touch with me through E-Mail if you have any more questions [email protected]
Thanks dfc. What ROM did you settle on using? I was thinking about using dcd3.2.6 with the recommended radio and bootloader that dcd recommends. Seems like a pretty safe way to go and sounds like many people go that route.
Have you made any of your own ROMs yet? I am going to keep reading and studying and trying to figure out a way to fully backup the phone so if I have to revert due to company policy or anything like that, I will be able to.
I was very surprised to get help from someone from Illinois being that this is Packers/Bears weekend. If it makes you feel any better, I watched the movie Brian's Song the other night and I still get teary eyed. LOL.
It's on HTC's website, dated July 7th. I haven't seen any other threads on it, and I wanted to see if anyone else has tried it. I've updated to it myself, and it seems to be an overall improvement over the version I had. There's really nothing much in the notes, though it seems they tweaked quite a bit. Most notably, it's done wonders for my battery life. I used to always come home with a phone that was nearly dead. Now I get home with 60-70% still left on the battery. It could be my imagination, but the phone seems a bit more responsive now as well. If the battery life is anything to go by, it could just be from general optimization of the ROM. Other points of interest... the activesync app is no longer self-launching, and Opera Mobile appears to have had an update as well.
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Here's the link: http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=200&act=sd&cat=all
im in the process of doing it know, ill let ya know what i think in a bit
I tried it when it 1st came out, its definitely better than the shipped rom, but its still got all of the bloatware and other b.s. that interferes with performance. IMO, you're still better off with a cooked rom.
ya i honestly cant tell a different between stock rom and this update
Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
one of these day ill get around to putting a custom rom on my phone.
thiers just to many and i cant figure out which one i want
stock
if i have already unlocked my phone and running a custom rom and want to flash to this stock rom do i need to do anything different?
No, just flash as you normally do. Every couple of flashes I go back to the stock rom anyway. Probably just the "placebo" effect, but I've convinced myself it helps.
Do it for the Radio
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Oh yeah, I'm sure a cooked rom is faster. Just thought I'd put the PSA out there. It does seem to address a few issues for my launch version of the ROM.
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Notation to everyone here this ROM includes an updated radio. 1.12.20F. So that it's self should be worth it. I run NFS rom but I am going to update to this so I can grab the updated radio. I will then jump to his. My radio is currently 1.03.16F. It also has the later PRL and PRI.
I see the in the Radio Thread in this forum that they have the alltel readio without the whole ROM. So if you want go that route. I have just found that doing a stock flash every once in awhile keeps my custom flashing less problematic.
im still having problems as far as radio signal.........and the only reason i don't just upgraded the radio is their is no alltel dump yet
I also get great battery life after the update.
Tritan21 said:
I also get great battery life after the update.
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Agree and better signal quality. Used the Field Test to check the signal.
tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
chris347101 said:
tell me more about this field test, i would like to see if my signal is better
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Go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531134
and look on the first post. In it it says how to check my signal. That will show you what you need. Lower is better for all 3 numbers it shows in the post to look at.
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typing this didn't do anything...all i got was call cant be completed as dialed
One very nice discovery I made today (because of how little I actually talk on my TP) is that they've changed the call answer screen a bit. Seems they took a page from Apple's book and changed the answer and ignore buttons into a slider. You slide it all the way left to answer, and right to ignore. Should fix the accidental answer problem I know a lot of people (including myself) have had.
Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
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Will this work on Verizon TP? I know i will have to apply keyboard patch but would it work?
Radio should work no problem, especially since alltel and verizon are 1 now.
I dispise Verizon ROM. No YouTube, No Internet Sharing etc... Got it as a insurance replacement when my Alltel TP broke. They said they don't have Alltel TPs anymore.
Please give me the good news... PLEEEAAASE
PS: I already have GPS unlocked using MR1 release from Verizon.
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I wouldn't attempt it if I were you. Have you considered trying a custom rom? If you've never done it I could help you through the process. Stock roms SUCK!
Can i ask you if it works in a touch pro un-locked of the vodafone Italy company?
I have an alltel touch pro but my area switched to verizon now, im assuming this won't be a problem because i didn't need to do any update when they switched so im guessing the radio won't be an issue? Really want to do this if it increases battery.
Also will this remove any settings or themes that kind of stuff?
edit nevermind i see it removes everything.
if i take my memory card out before i update can will all the programs that are one it reinstall? and when i put all my backed up data back on the device do the programs reinstall or do i have to do something to reinstall them?