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Hi there, i have a situation that happened to my s200/G4 when i've tryed to update:
First i've updated IPL to 2.20 and it went ok showing on the device IPL 2.20.0001. Then when i've tryed to update SPL to 2.20 also and here the problem acoured. in the end it showed ok but when it rebooted it showed IPL 2020.0001 and SPL 2.20 and nothing else...... after this the s200 always stops at the bootloader screen. I'v tryed the hard reset, soft reset, latest i'v tryed the ppc charge trick(cut wires, etc...) i can even put the s200 discovered in the pc as a usb htc device(bootloader) but when i try to update to a new rom or anything the update program (always used g4 software and confirmed that it is a g4 ppc before update) it says that it can not communicate with the device....?!?!?
well, the device is showing in the device manager as a usb ppc device.
i don't know what to do more.
since he is connecting to the pc, how can i force him to accept any firm?
really this is a complicated situation to me since i am a beginner.
If anyone can help me please do. I would apreciate it.
Thanks
Hi nightRoller
I have the exact same problem, i've have started this thread looking for help and logging all the steps i've been doing with any success:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357045
And like you, i also have my IPL 2.20.0001 and SLP 2.20 and i think that there's where the problem is
So lets see if any one can help us out, and keep me posted if you manage to do something, and i'll le you know if i succeed in the meantime.
Anyone would care to help uus out?
THank you very much in advance.
Cheers
Try Soft SPL
Instead of hard SPL, why don't you try just Soft SPL?
Search the Soft SPL thread, copy the 3 files to your Prophet root (\) dir and execute the SPL link, answer YES to the Program Executing Firewall if it pop up.
You'll need some WM5/6 to be able to operate the Prophet in order to do this, I went from the BootLoader directly to PDAViet Step 1 Temp WM5, after it ask me to tap the sreen to begin to use the device, I follow all the steps in order to have a WM operative, then use ActiveSync to Explore and copy Soft SPL to root dir.
After this, execute Soft SPL from your pocket, a blank screen will came. Press the Camera Button (Just in case), the Execute "ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G3.exe" or G4 equivalent from your nk.nbf preferred WM6 ROM.
Some time you'll have to unlplug the PDA and plug it again so the update to WM5 PDAViet Temp to begin without the "PDA not connected error", please, be advice that Activisync will be disable during this Bootloader stage, I mean, It will not sincro nor anything, but you'll still be able to update to Step 1 WM5.
You haven't actually done HardSPL right. Not an expert so I can't help you do it, there are guides on this forum though. But your IPL wont show 2.20.0001 ... it will have something with G4 in the middle. Sorry I can't be more specific, I only fixed this on my phone last night.
Hello,
I made so many search in the forum to solve my problem,but it doesnt work.
I have Imate JamIN, I did so many upgrades, and it works with me.
The SPL is 2.G4.4PDA (Hard SPL)
I installed The RUU and upgrade to transformer 1.1, it use to be fine with me before, but now when i reset or hard reset the phone, the screen is blocked on Loading OS with windows vista Background. IS it because of the Hard SPL?
When i do reset, The screen fade to white and then it will reset, I dont know the problem
So now when i want to run The RUU again, an error 260 that am not connecting the cell to pc....
i wish it was the 3 colors, it wont be a problem
Is my Phone is dead?can i recover?how?
Thank You
Have you tried entering bootloader? Start up the device, hold the Comm Button and soft reset. That should get you to the bootloader screen at which you should be able to flash a ROM.
Thanks man,it works with me
Enjoy some more ROM flashing!
My first attempt to upgrade to AP4 did not succeed unfortunately (SPL to 3.50 upgrade went OK though), my power light stayed green and the display wouldn't come on.
So I took the Athena into bootloader and re-flashed back to AP3.
All seemed fine, the "Tap the screen to set up your device" screen appeared, I set it up and let the customization program run.
Unfortunately after the automatic reset at the end of the customization program, the device returned to the "Tap the screen to set up your device" and the customization program started again...
I tried interrupting the customization by soft resetting before it started executing itself, soft resetted during customization, let customization finish again (and again), but the device seems to be in an endless loop....
Any suggestions/help?
Thanks a lot in advance!
this happen because the spl and the kernel, AKA nk.exe, do not match. not sure what to do except try the new ap3 the cmonex posted **not sure if you tried that**
try the 3.0 cmonex posted and enjoy.
solved!
Thanks irus & Pawel062 (and cmonex!), that did the trick!
Probably not a bad idea to advise anybody who needs downgrading from AP4 to AP3 to use that rom. Download it from http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
See cmonex' thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386604
***great Information!***
HEY ALL,
I WAS ALSO HAVING SOME ISSUES VERY SIMILAR TO THESE WHILE TRYING TO "DOWNGRADE" TO ANY ROM FROM AP 4.0. THIS IS GREAT INFO AS I BUILD MY OWN ROMS CONSTANTLY, SO I WAS A BIT WORRIED WHEN I COULDNT SWITCH AFTER TRYING AP 4.O, BUT THANKS TO CMONEX, IRUS, & PAWEL062, WE CAN DOWNGRADE A BIT EASIER!
THANKS AGAIN!
M E G
I downloaded the http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
can anyone tell me the steps
note i'm stuck into the bootloader
mgozamy said:
I downloaded the http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
can anyone tell me the steps
note i'm stuck into the bootloader
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just flash it with normal RUU
I have this problem of the "looping" with the customizations. My problem is that I can't get the device to a state where it is "talking" to activesync and from what I see, I need that to push this ap3spl new file.
When you say "just flash it with normal RUU" can you tell me what that means please? (sorry, noob here...) I've spent hours on the forums, wiki etc and I'm a bit lost.
I'm "trying" to get AP4 w/WM6.1 onto the device.
Purchased unlocked (new) and used on AT&T for 6 months.
Went to update the radio to 1.57 and used the unlocker first. (took out SIM/SD first of course).
Got past step one and then got a black screen on reboot...
I got AP3 to load but now I get this fun looping.. Setup device, load customizations, reboot, and start over.
Sounds like this file in this thread is my fix to at least get AP3 working but not sure how to apply. Can I do it from the bootloader?
thanks in advance for putting up with me
Oh yeah:
My current state:
ATHE100
IPL - v2.02
ATHE100 MFG
SPL -v3.50 OliNex
Eureka!
Ok, I'm not a COMPLETE noob.. (close). I'm up and running. AP3 (new spl) loaded, then loaded AP4. Woo Hoo!
No GPS
Well, I guess I'm "Almost" back up and running.
Since step three never got kicked off, it looks like my GPS rom/radio never was rewritten back to the device.
Any help on how to get just the GPS portion back?
Endless loop after flashing AP4
I have a similar problem. My Dopod U1000 was running WM6 and I upgraded to
radio version 1.58.00 no problem. After flashing AP4 I am in a cycle where my initial boot screen has black and white lines at the top and black at the bottom
Then get the Windows Mobile 6.1 screen and after automatic customizing the
PDA resets itself. I have tried to flash the AP3newspl file but it cant communicate successfully with the synced PDA. Any help?
Johnatara said:
I have a similar problem. My Dopod U1000 was running WM6 and I upgraded to
radio version 1.58.00 no problem. After flashing AP4 I am in a cycle where my initial boot screen has black and white lines at the top and black at the bottom
Then get the Windows Mobile 6.1 screen and after automatic customizing the
PDA resets itself. I have tried to flash the AP3newspl file but it cant communicate successfully with the synced PDA. Any help?
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get into bootloader by pressing camera+reset and check your spl
you can flash a rom from here
also read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
Thanks lakeman. I reinstalled WM6 ROM from the boot loader.
My IPL v1.00 and SPL v1.20. Olipro and Radio 1.58
I have transferred enblerapi.cab to PDA and run it each time but when I flash
AP4 ROM or AP3newspl ROM I get an endless loop and my SPL stays v1.20
I cant seem to get a flash of SPL3.5 which I suspect is the problem.
Am I missing something?
Il download non funziona.
well, so I found out how to fully automate the process. sorry for the waiting, I was busy with life & some diamond and shift stuff
you can now just run an EXE that does all the downgrading and the modelid/wifi restore. no manual lnbs needed.
Description:
this uses a special SSPL, should be also OK in place of the original AthenaWrapper (or Unlocker Step 1), but I recommend you only use it for downgrade purposes.
this package includes:
- NBH to flash back to HardSPL 1.20.Olipro. can be replaced with other SPL NBH's but only with ones that are older than SPL 3.xx are recommended. this is only designed for SPL flash however, do not try other NBH types.
- SSPL which automates the restoring of wifi and modelid, which otherwise would always get corrupt when downgrading from SPL 3.xx. do not try to use another SSPL or you will corrupt your modelid and wifi and you will have to use manual tools (the Athena MAC BIN generator that I wrote & posted earlier) to restore them.
- RUU tailored to these needs. do not try to use another RUU for this purpose. also do not try using this RUU for anything else.
- BIG WARNING: do not even try to run this for any device other than Athena (not even the x7510). (I had to remove all modelid checking.) I do not take responsibility for such moronity (or any other kind of moron actions).
STEP BY STEP:
0. flash AP3newSPL OS image in preparation: http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
1. make sure Athena is running WM and synced with Activesync. do not try entering bootloader mode manually at this point! the way the Downgrader works relies on this.
2. extract the downloaded zip from Attachment to this post, you'll find an SPLDowngrader.EXE inside. run that EXE on your PC, now Athena should go to tricolour screen saying OliNex SSPL.
3. let the RUU flash.
3-TroubleShooting: if the RUU won't see device, uncheck the advanced functionalities in usb-to-pc settings in settings on the Athena.
4. it will reboot and also will hard reset your device. you will need to flash an OS compatible with old SPL now. if you are not sure how to do that, see "Extra help" below. after that, job is done.
5. +1: you should verify the modelid and SPL version is correct (ATHE100 and 1.20.Olipro). see "Extra help" below on how to enter bootloader mode to check.
Extra help: steps to help with flashing an OS if someone never flashed from bootloader before:
0. do not freak out if the OS isn't booting after downgrade. depends on what OS was on it before. maybe you will only get black screen but do not worry, read further:
1. you should manually enter SPL, by holding camera key (ALL THE WAY IN!!) while resetting. hold it until tricolour screen appears.
2. then use some other RUU / ROM package to flash an OS compatible with old SPL. job done.
NOTE 1: if the exe doesn't run then download and install .net framework from microsoft.com.
NOTE 2: if you just want to restore stock SPL, you must do it this way:
1. flash with this downgrader, with unchanged package.
2. flash OS compatible with old SPL 1.20.Olipro. this can be a stock OS.
3. use usual methods to restore stock SPL. this must be the last step, run only after you've restored stock OS!!!
Planned:
- dedicated stock SPL downgrade package
- dedicated SPL 3.50 upgrade package
these are all available already, just need userfriendly EXE package.
Tested and working great. Excellent Job as usual.
Thank you
Dear god thank you. Does this mean that our lords and lady of ROM cooking will be gracing us with an AP5 ROM sometime soonish?
Perfect!
Now i can try different ROM´s and be sure, i can downgrade to an other, when i dont like a WM6.1 ROM.
Thx!
Awesome Cmonex - Thanks!
Many thanks, cmonex!
Just for clarification on step 4 above,
Do I enter boatloader manullay after this step?....or once this RUU is flashed and I see the black screen, do I just go ahead and flash my desired OS without entering manual boatloader?
Thank you cmonex for this downgrader!!!!!
Kenjari said:
Just for clarification on step 4 above,
Do I enter boatloader manullay after this step?....or once this RUU is flashed and I see the black screen, do I just go ahead and flash my desired OS without entering manual boatloader?
Thank you cmonex for this downgrader!!!!!
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I edited step 4 to make it more clear - hopefully now you will see what is needed. let me know if still not clear enough.
(P.S: just to give background, RUU without manual bootloader entering will only work if WM is running because the RUU pushes enterbootloader.exe to the device which then puts the Athena in bootloader mode for flash without the user having to do anything. the exe will of course only run if there is an OS running under it.)
Hi Cmonex,
Excellent piece of work as usual, Its pretty clear as it is, You worry to much! Although
sticking with 3.5 for now, we have HTC stock, Ameo WM6 stock, and pawel's good work, and Irus's roms. Why swap?
NOW, have you got XP ROM onto Athena yet, if not why not
regards
Jay
Thanks cmonex, I get it now!
Sorry for the inconvienence!!!!
Thank you for everything ...
Is it possible once made the downgrade back to SPL 3.xx?
If this is so ... How do I do?
Montecristo said:
Thank you for everything ...
Is it possible once made the downgrade back to SPL 3.xx?
If this is so ... How do I do?
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Just reflash with AP 4.0 again, you will have to go through all the upgrade again to get SPL 3.5 back on. Keep in mind if Pawel comes up with a new rom it may well need SPL 3.5 on to use it. I personaly think its worth waiting.
Regards
Jay
responderman said:
Just reflash with AP 4.0 again, you will have to go through all the upgrade again to get SPL 3.5 back on. Keep in mind if Pawel comes up with a new rom it may well need SPL 3.5 on to use it. I personaly think its worth waiting.
Regards
Jay
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Same here, I do believe it woth waiting. We just need Pawel and AP team to give us an update on their next complete version.
Cheers
Black screen, Someone can help me!
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
When you were in boatloader ..... I thought you were just only suppose to hit soft reset without the camera button.
Try that!
EDIT: I'm sorry panvita I read your post wrong. I thought you already flashed after the downgrade and you were only just checking to make sure you downgraded successfully by going to the boatloader screen. oops!
panvita said:
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
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You need to finish the rest of step 4 (or goto the extra help) and flash a 1.2 Rom
Extra help:
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steps to help with flashing an OS if someone never flashed from bootloader before:
0. do not freak out if the OS isn't booting after downgrade. depends on what OS was on it before. maybe you will only get black screen but do not worry, read further:
1. you should manually enter SPL, by holding camera key (ALL THE WAY IN!!) while resetting. hold it until tricolour screen appears.
2. then use some other RUU / ROM package to flash an OS compatible with old SPL. job done.
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yes please, why can't people read the instructions? :O
thanks to eagle for answering.
[OT]Women secrets...
How to have a REAL secret diary (and hide it to all males): leave it on the living room table and write in RED on the cover "Instructions Manual" [/OT]
My humble observation for AP4 under SPL 1.2.
panvita said:
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
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Before I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, I was able to see the program menu, and it is still AP4 program. I moved up by my finger, and htc flotouch still worked. I thought that I have had a AP4 under spl1.2, what a wonderful supprise. But after I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, what I could do is to go to AP3, and then to AP4, after that, go to downgrader. Finally, I went back to AP4 under spl 1.2. But strange things happened. Each time I soft reset the device, it went to customazation and calibration again. In orther words, I could not restore my backup file which eventually asked for a reset. Finally, I get a conclusion that AP4 cannot be used under spl 1.2 at least the present time. Because I got accustomed with AP4, then I upgraded to AP3 and then AP4 under spl 3.5. Just because my little curiosity, I have travelled around the world twice.
panvita said:
Before I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, I was able to see the program menu, and it is still AP4 program. I moved up by my finger, and htc flotouch still worked. I thought that I have had a AP4 under spl1.2, what a wonderful supprise. But after I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, what I could do is to go to AP3, and then to AP4, after that, go to downgrader. Finally, I went back to AP4 under spl 1.2. But strange things happened. Each time I soft reset the device, it went to customazation and calibration again. In orther words, I could not restore my backup file which eventually asked for a reset. Finally, I get a conclusion that AP4 cannot be used under spl 1.2 at least the present time. Because I got accustomed with AP4, then I upgraded to AP3 and then AP4 under spl 3.5. Just because my little curiosity, I have travelled around the world twice.
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wish you had read the forum more times
it is well known that depending on the SPL version you have to get the correct rom version or you will get reset loop. AP4 is only for the newer SPL for now.
hi guys today i start updating my the rom on my x7500 i made it to the third step where there were a progres bar untill it goes 91% where it stuck for a while and the program infome me that there was an error and i had to take the usb off romove the battery for 3 seconds and then start the device and i do it but when i turn the phone on i recive a black screen with some white lins on the top and some red letters on the bottom and after 2 seconds i turn grey and the programm dident see the htc so it closed. can i fix it now and how thanksssss
note: that i can stiil get the red green blue wite screen by pressisng the camera button and resset so i start all over again untill the progress bar get to the 5 i think and it get me a messaga tha this programme cant used for this devise
Hi and welcome to the forum,
What does it say on the bootloader screen (Reset/ camera button) and which rom are you trying to load? sounds to me youre trying to load a rom with the wrong spl.
Regards
Jay
hi my friend and thanks for the response in the boot loader screen it says
IPL-V1.00
SPL-V1.20.OLIPRO
and i've try to to put the 13th of this list http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518 which is this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371
Hi,
Now im not sure still what rom it is you are trying to use, it would be better if you just gave me the name on the download link. So go through the start of downloading it again and copy the name of the link. I think you are trying to flash a SPL 3.5 rom onto an SPL 1.20 Athena (yours!). any how, do that and let me know. If you think you are going to use 6.5 roms that are around now then you will need to first flash with the AP 4.0 rom first, however you need to have a working rom on your athena first. so i would recomend you flash with AP 3.0 OR go back to a stock rom and start again. AP 4.0 swaps your SPL to 3.5, but it will swap back to SPL 1.2 if you want to.
Jay
thanks again my friend the broblem solved by following the steps on this link (the second post) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387454&highlight=mtty&page=4 but the broblem came becuse in the ist of roms says windows mobile 6.1 and spl 3.5 and spl 1.2 and inside the lin is says wm 6.5 and spl only 3.5 now i manage to put one but i will try to upgrate to spl 3.5 in order to get the rom i want one more time thanks responderman for the respone
Not a problem, glad you are sorted out now. Just be very careful if you upgrade to SPL 3.5, read the guide in full and follow it to the letter.
Regards
Jay
does someone knows how to update from spl 1.20 olipro to spl 3.5 on order to put an other rom for spl 3.5
follow instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013