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i began to upgrade with dcds 2.40 olipro hard spl and after the initial loading was instructed to disconnect device, after reconnting device i ran the rest of the programs rom and such and now i'm left with the 2.40 olipro screen will not reboot. i have tried hard reset and soft reset and even power camera and soft reset keys, nothing has worked yet. please hlep me figure this out and whether or not my device is bricked? also i'm runnig on the alltel network if it helps.
You're OK
You're probably just fine--95% probability--Just go ahead and flash the radio, then flash the rom, and then see what you get.
alright, thanks i'll try that and let ya guys know how it goes
My first attempt to upgrade to AP4 did not succeed unfortunately (SPL to 3.50 upgrade went OK though), my power light stayed green and the display wouldn't come on.
So I took the Athena into bootloader and re-flashed back to AP3.
All seemed fine, the "Tap the screen to set up your device" screen appeared, I set it up and let the customization program run.
Unfortunately after the automatic reset at the end of the customization program, the device returned to the "Tap the screen to set up your device" and the customization program started again...
I tried interrupting the customization by soft resetting before it started executing itself, soft resetted during customization, let customization finish again (and again), but the device seems to be in an endless loop....
Any suggestions/help?
Thanks a lot in advance!
this happen because the spl and the kernel, AKA nk.exe, do not match. not sure what to do except try the new ap3 the cmonex posted **not sure if you tried that**
try the 3.0 cmonex posted and enjoy.
solved!
Thanks irus & Pawel062 (and cmonex!), that did the trick!
Probably not a bad idea to advise anybody who needs downgrading from AP4 to AP3 to use that rom. Download it from http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
See cmonex' thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386604
***great Information!***
HEY ALL,
I WAS ALSO HAVING SOME ISSUES VERY SIMILAR TO THESE WHILE TRYING TO "DOWNGRADE" TO ANY ROM FROM AP 4.0. THIS IS GREAT INFO AS I BUILD MY OWN ROMS CONSTANTLY, SO I WAS A BIT WORRIED WHEN I COULDNT SWITCH AFTER TRYING AP 4.O, BUT THANKS TO CMONEX, IRUS, & PAWEL062, WE CAN DOWNGRADE A BIT EASIER!
THANKS AGAIN!
M E G
I downloaded the http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
can anyone tell me the steps
note i'm stuck into the bootloader
mgozamy said:
I downloaded the http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
can anyone tell me the steps
note i'm stuck into the bootloader
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just flash it with normal RUU
I have this problem of the "looping" with the customizations. My problem is that I can't get the device to a state where it is "talking" to activesync and from what I see, I need that to push this ap3spl new file.
When you say "just flash it with normal RUU" can you tell me what that means please? (sorry, noob here...) I've spent hours on the forums, wiki etc and I'm a bit lost.
I'm "trying" to get AP4 w/WM6.1 onto the device.
Purchased unlocked (new) and used on AT&T for 6 months.
Went to update the radio to 1.57 and used the unlocker first. (took out SIM/SD first of course).
Got past step one and then got a black screen on reboot...
I got AP3 to load but now I get this fun looping.. Setup device, load customizations, reboot, and start over.
Sounds like this file in this thread is my fix to at least get AP3 working but not sure how to apply. Can I do it from the bootloader?
thanks in advance for putting up with me
Oh yeah:
My current state:
ATHE100
IPL - v2.02
ATHE100 MFG
SPL -v3.50 OliNex
Eureka!
Ok, I'm not a COMPLETE noob.. (close). I'm up and running. AP3 (new spl) loaded, then loaded AP4. Woo Hoo!
No GPS
Well, I guess I'm "Almost" back up and running.
Since step three never got kicked off, it looks like my GPS rom/radio never was rewritten back to the device.
Any help on how to get just the GPS portion back?
Endless loop after flashing AP4
I have a similar problem. My Dopod U1000 was running WM6 and I upgraded to
radio version 1.58.00 no problem. After flashing AP4 I am in a cycle where my initial boot screen has black and white lines at the top and black at the bottom
Then get the Windows Mobile 6.1 screen and after automatic customizing the
PDA resets itself. I have tried to flash the AP3newspl file but it cant communicate successfully with the synced PDA. Any help?
Johnatara said:
I have a similar problem. My Dopod U1000 was running WM6 and I upgraded to
radio version 1.58.00 no problem. After flashing AP4 I am in a cycle where my initial boot screen has black and white lines at the top and black at the bottom
Then get the Windows Mobile 6.1 screen and after automatic customizing the
PDA resets itself. I have tried to flash the AP3newspl file but it cant communicate successfully with the synced PDA. Any help?
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get into bootloader by pressing camera+reset and check your spl
you can flash a rom from here
also read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
Thanks lakeman. I reinstalled WM6 ROM from the boot loader.
My IPL v1.00 and SPL v1.20. Olipro and Radio 1.58
I have transferred enblerapi.cab to PDA and run it each time but when I flash
AP4 ROM or AP3newspl ROM I get an endless loop and my SPL stays v1.20
I cant seem to get a flash of SPL3.5 which I suspect is the problem.
Am I missing something?
Il download non funziona.
Hi,
Please help me, as its very urgent. I have been upgrading to various ROM's every now and then. Recently I did a blunder, as While upgrading with One of the ROM (Black Majik) i selected SPL 2.10 instead of Force SSPL and while upgrading USB Connection get lost.
Now I am only getting the Splash Screen showing HTC, when i Hard Reset my phone I do not get IPL and SPL version displayed and it takes my to the Splash Screen again.
Please help me in finding a way i can recover my phone.
Thanks in Advance
Regards
Try a hard reset...
If that doesn't work and you have Hard SPL on your phone upgrade using the sd card method.
As for your IPL and SPL, what do you see when you go to bootloader? That shows your IPL & SPL. To get to bootloader press power, OK button next to flywheel and soft reset with stylus. Hold all three buttons until you get to tri-colour screen. That will tell you what IPL & Spl you have.
Cheers...
Thanx for help. I could get my IPL and SPL info. But still i am not been able to get any rom installed on my device as it get stuck on that tri-color screen and rom up gradation wizards comes with different rom looks for activesync connection with the device. I am not been able to boot my device so that i can upgrade it to specific rom. Is there any way i can install a ROM without having active sync connection with the device...
Pl.. Pl.. Pl.. help. I would be greatfull to you
IF you have flashed Hard SPL on your phone you have a good Chance...
If you haven't and its under warranty you might be able to get them to fix for you.
Assuming you have Hard SPLed your phone, try the sd card method - format up to 2gb sd card fat32. copy the .nbh file from the rom upgrade to the sd card.Rename the .nbh file to "hermimg.nbh". Reset phone. As you keep going into bootloader you wont have to manually do that. It should recognize the os flash and prompt you to hit the power button to proceed...
PLEASE NOTE - THIS WILL ONLY WORK IF YOUR SPL IS 2.10 OLIPRO...
Hope you upgraded your SPL cos you will only have a paper weight otherwise..
Best of luck. Cheers...
well, so I found out how to fully automate the process. sorry for the waiting, I was busy with life & some diamond and shift stuff
you can now just run an EXE that does all the downgrading and the modelid/wifi restore. no manual lnbs needed.
Description:
this uses a special SSPL, should be also OK in place of the original AthenaWrapper (or Unlocker Step 1), but I recommend you only use it for downgrade purposes.
this package includes:
- NBH to flash back to HardSPL 1.20.Olipro. can be replaced with other SPL NBH's but only with ones that are older than SPL 3.xx are recommended. this is only designed for SPL flash however, do not try other NBH types.
- SSPL which automates the restoring of wifi and modelid, which otherwise would always get corrupt when downgrading from SPL 3.xx. do not try to use another SSPL or you will corrupt your modelid and wifi and you will have to use manual tools (the Athena MAC BIN generator that I wrote & posted earlier) to restore them.
- RUU tailored to these needs. do not try to use another RUU for this purpose. also do not try using this RUU for anything else.
- BIG WARNING: do not even try to run this for any device other than Athena (not even the x7510). (I had to remove all modelid checking.) I do not take responsibility for such moronity (or any other kind of moron actions).
STEP BY STEP:
0. flash AP3newSPL OS image in preparation: http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
1. make sure Athena is running WM and synced with Activesync. do not try entering bootloader mode manually at this point! the way the Downgrader works relies on this.
2. extract the downloaded zip from Attachment to this post, you'll find an SPLDowngrader.EXE inside. run that EXE on your PC, now Athena should go to tricolour screen saying OliNex SSPL.
3. let the RUU flash.
3-TroubleShooting: if the RUU won't see device, uncheck the advanced functionalities in usb-to-pc settings in settings on the Athena.
4. it will reboot and also will hard reset your device. you will need to flash an OS compatible with old SPL now. if you are not sure how to do that, see "Extra help" below. after that, job is done.
5. +1: you should verify the modelid and SPL version is correct (ATHE100 and 1.20.Olipro). see "Extra help" below on how to enter bootloader mode to check.
Extra help: steps to help with flashing an OS if someone never flashed from bootloader before:
0. do not freak out if the OS isn't booting after downgrade. depends on what OS was on it before. maybe you will only get black screen but do not worry, read further:
1. you should manually enter SPL, by holding camera key (ALL THE WAY IN!!) while resetting. hold it until tricolour screen appears.
2. then use some other RUU / ROM package to flash an OS compatible with old SPL. job done.
NOTE 1: if the exe doesn't run then download and install .net framework from microsoft.com.
NOTE 2: if you just want to restore stock SPL, you must do it this way:
1. flash with this downgrader, with unchanged package.
2. flash OS compatible with old SPL 1.20.Olipro. this can be a stock OS.
3. use usual methods to restore stock SPL. this must be the last step, run only after you've restored stock OS!!!
Planned:
- dedicated stock SPL downgrade package
- dedicated SPL 3.50 upgrade package
these are all available already, just need userfriendly EXE package.
Tested and working great. Excellent Job as usual.
Thank you
Dear god thank you. Does this mean that our lords and lady of ROM cooking will be gracing us with an AP5 ROM sometime soonish?
Perfect!
Now i can try different ROM´s and be sure, i can downgrade to an other, when i dont like a WM6.1 ROM.
Thx!
Awesome Cmonex - Thanks!
Many thanks, cmonex!
Just for clarification on step 4 above,
Do I enter boatloader manullay after this step?....or once this RUU is flashed and I see the black screen, do I just go ahead and flash my desired OS without entering manual boatloader?
Thank you cmonex for this downgrader!!!!!
Kenjari said:
Just for clarification on step 4 above,
Do I enter boatloader manullay after this step?....or once this RUU is flashed and I see the black screen, do I just go ahead and flash my desired OS without entering manual boatloader?
Thank you cmonex for this downgrader!!!!!
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I edited step 4 to make it more clear - hopefully now you will see what is needed. let me know if still not clear enough.
(P.S: just to give background, RUU without manual bootloader entering will only work if WM is running because the RUU pushes enterbootloader.exe to the device which then puts the Athena in bootloader mode for flash without the user having to do anything. the exe will of course only run if there is an OS running under it.)
Hi Cmonex,
Excellent piece of work as usual, Its pretty clear as it is, You worry to much! Although
sticking with 3.5 for now, we have HTC stock, Ameo WM6 stock, and pawel's good work, and Irus's roms. Why swap?
NOW, have you got XP ROM onto Athena yet, if not why not
regards
Jay
Thanks cmonex, I get it now!
Sorry for the inconvienence!!!!
Thank you for everything ...
Is it possible once made the downgrade back to SPL 3.xx?
If this is so ... How do I do?
Montecristo said:
Thank you for everything ...
Is it possible once made the downgrade back to SPL 3.xx?
If this is so ... How do I do?
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Just reflash with AP 4.0 again, you will have to go through all the upgrade again to get SPL 3.5 back on. Keep in mind if Pawel comes up with a new rom it may well need SPL 3.5 on to use it. I personaly think its worth waiting.
Regards
Jay
responderman said:
Just reflash with AP 4.0 again, you will have to go through all the upgrade again to get SPL 3.5 back on. Keep in mind if Pawel comes up with a new rom it may well need SPL 3.5 on to use it. I personaly think its worth waiting.
Regards
Jay
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Same here, I do believe it woth waiting. We just need Pawel and AP team to give us an update on their next complete version.
Cheers
Black screen, Someone can help me!
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
When you were in boatloader ..... I thought you were just only suppose to hit soft reset without the camera button.
Try that!
EDIT: I'm sorry panvita I read your post wrong. I thought you already flashed after the downgrade and you were only just checking to make sure you downgraded successfully by going to the boatloader screen. oops!
panvita said:
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
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You need to finish the rest of step 4 (or goto the extra help) and flash a 1.2 Rom
Extra help:
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steps to help with flashing an OS if someone never flashed from bootloader before:
0. do not freak out if the OS isn't booting after downgrade. depends on what OS was on it before. maybe you will only get black screen but do not worry, read further:
1. you should manually enter SPL, by holding camera key (ALL THE WAY IN!!) while resetting. hold it until tricolour screen appears.
2. then use some other RUU / ROM package to flash an OS compatible with old SPL. job done.
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yes please, why can't people read the instructions? :O
thanks to eagle for answering.
[OT]Women secrets...
How to have a REAL secret diary (and hide it to all males): leave it on the living room table and write in RED on the cover "Instructions Manual" [/OT]
My humble observation for AP4 under SPL 1.2.
panvita said:
Thanks for cmonex's contribution to Athena forum, AP4 in SPL 3.5 have given me a lot of pleasant time.
Since I discovered that the downloader has come out, because of curiosity,
I successfully downgraded to SPL1.2. Again, for curiosity, I wish to know the SPL1.2, I pushed camera buttom and soft reset at the same time, I really
seen the following:
"ATHE100
IPL-v.100
ATHE100
SPL-v1.20. Olipro"
However, I do not know how to switch back to the WM. If I press volume bottom and soft reset hole at the same time, I only get black screen with green light on. Someone can help me!
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Before I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, I was able to see the program menu, and it is still AP4 program. I moved up by my finger, and htc flotouch still worked. I thought that I have had a AP4 under spl1.2, what a wonderful supprise. But after I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, what I could do is to go to AP3, and then to AP4, after that, go to downgrader. Finally, I went back to AP4 under spl 1.2. But strange things happened. Each time I soft reset the device, it went to customazation and calibration again. In orther words, I could not restore my backup file which eventually asked for a reset. Finally, I get a conclusion that AP4 cannot be used under spl 1.2 at least the present time. Because I got accustomed with AP4, then I upgraded to AP3 and then AP4 under spl 3.5. Just because my little curiosity, I have travelled around the world twice.
panvita said:
Before I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, I was able to see the program menu, and it is still AP4 program. I moved up by my finger, and htc flotouch still worked. I thought that I have had a AP4 under spl1.2, what a wonderful supprise. But after I pressed volume bottom and soft reset hole, what I could do is to go to AP3, and then to AP4, after that, go to downgrader. Finally, I went back to AP4 under spl 1.2. But strange things happened. Each time I soft reset the device, it went to customazation and calibration again. In orther words, I could not restore my backup file which eventually asked for a reset. Finally, I get a conclusion that AP4 cannot be used under spl 1.2 at least the present time. Because I got accustomed with AP4, then I upgraded to AP3 and then AP4 under spl 3.5. Just because my little curiosity, I have travelled around the world twice.
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wish you had read the forum more times
it is well known that depending on the SPL version you have to get the correct rom version or you will get reset loop. AP4 is only for the newer SPL for now.
Hi guys
before, my htc tytn had a problem, it not recognize the gsm sim and no IMEI showed on informations of the PDA.
I supposed that it was a problem of radio rom, and I followed the instructions given on (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665) to unlock and update my radio rom, unfortunately, after the operation began the spl1.60 was downgraded to 1.40.Olipro but can't progress in flashing, the htc hermes SIM CID Unlocker 3.12.3.7 has encountered an 262 (update error), a recovery operation was guided but no result, from this error my htc still showing the three colours screen like below:
HERM200
IPL-1.01
HERM200
SPL-1.40.Olipro
please help me to restore my phone, there is indispensable for my job to get e-mails
thanks
If you're using XP then update .net framework to 3.5.
Go to activesync settings on pc and untick "Allow USB connection".
Reconnect Hermes to PC, go to bootloader (you need to reset to bootloader, true bootloader, not bricked bootloader). Run RUU_Wrapper.exe again. Should get you out of tricolour screen.
When you finish unlocking the Hermes install Hard SPL V7, go to post 1160, page 116 of this thread for sd card method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Cheers...
???
Thank you for your response but what do you mean by (you need to reset to bootloader, true bootloader, not bricked bootloader).
At the moment you can read the IPL and SPL on your screen, 3 coloured bands running down the screen. This is NOT true bootloader. You need to hold power, ok button above flywheel and reset with the stylus to go to real bootloader. Looks the same but is real and not a cocked up version.
Cheers...
Yes, but when I am doing this, the same screen become to me, with :
HERM200
IPL-1.01
HERM200
SPL-1.40.Olipro
I suppose that the real bootloader was replaced by the second one from Olipro.
regards.
No, the info you give is right, you upgraded the SPL to 1.40. However, just doing a reset with stylus may bring you to that screen but there may be a fundamental difference in how it flashes the SPL again. You need to do the bootloader reset to make sure that there will be no problems upgrading or you may end up with an unrecoverable brick. It may be fine to use the "bootloader" screen you get with a reset, but its your Hermes you will loose if something goes kaka.... And withot Hard SPL V7, you may not be able to recover it...
Cheers...