Awesome I found a way to stop making the phone overheat and stop charging while you tether you're gonna need the program nue dynamic clock @ http://www.nuerom.com.
1.when you install it go to settings, system, processor.
2.then go to file configure profiles
3.then file create new profile name it tethering and set all the options to 81mhz. youre done! now wehnever u want to tether set the external power profile to tethering and click save.
Now there is a way to set the phone to this profile whenever you start internet connection sharing but I couldnt quite understand that if u know how post it here
dont forget to set it back when youre done tethering or your phone will be slow
It works! My phone stopped overheating..it just keeps charging, im watching a movie and downloading at the same time..amazing who knew lol i was almost ready to give up on tethering altogether lol..but does this works with GPS and bluetooth? because i find that my phone overheats with the car charger..
Thanks for the tip. Don't want to see any flaming phones out there!
girltechie said:
It works! My phone stopped overheating..it just keeps charging, im watching a movie and downloading at the same time..amazing who knew lol i was almost ready to give up on tethering altogether lol..but does this works with GPS and bluetooth? because i find that my phone overheats with the car charger..
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Ewwww ummm for the car charger I find keeping the power saving profile for external power keeps it charging in the car...but if you are playing music bluetooth it will skip or if you are using GPS it MAY lag if you use them both together or worst case stop charging. Sunlight through the windshield can heat the phone too at this point dynamic clock wont help too much if its really hot outside. So as far in the car I would buy the car vent hanger to blow some air over the phone to keep it cool
icykid said:
Awesome I found a way to stop making the phone overheat and stop charging while you tether you're gonna need the program nue dynamic clock @ http://www.nuerom.com.
1.when you install it go to settings, system, processor.
2.then go to file configure profiles
3.then file create new profile name it tethering and set all the options to 81mhz. youre done! now wehnever u want to tether set the external power profile to tethering and click save.
Now there is a way to set the phone to this profile whenever you start internet connection sharing but I couldnt quite understand that if u know how post it here
dont forget to set it back when youre done tethering or your phone will be slow
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Thanks, works great for streaming audio into my stereo.
One question, I don't know if I'm dense or its the rom I am using, but I dont have a processor link in my systems file or anywere else I can find, so I just adjust from the clocking program. Am I missing something?
Thanks
PS Energyrom 3.0
thanks it works.
you have to soft rest after to see the profile you just made.
also set the battery and external power to tether. then click save
EDIT: it dosent work. my phone still gets hot and not charging. back to putting my phone by the AC.
gsrboy171 said:
thanks it works.
you have to soft rest after to see the profile you just made.
also set the battery and external power to tether. then click save
EDIT: it dosent work. my phone still gets hot and not charging. back to putting my phone by the AC.
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make sure your screen is off while you tether, try avoiding talking for a while then tethering that really heats it up, close unnecessary programs, make sure the manual settings arent 528mhz and overide button isnt checked & if that fails the drop the voltages to level 0! it cant possibly overheat after that
icykid said:
make sure your screen is off while you tether, try avoiding talking for a while then tethering that really heats it up, close unnecessary programs, make sure the manual settings arent 528mhz and overide button isnt checked & if that fails the drop the voltages to level 0! it cant possibly overheat after that
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i cant turn the screen off because it closes all the programs.
Can anyone, please post the direct link. Tank you.
Turning your screen off
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i cant turn the screen off because it closes all the programs.
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You can use psShutXP to turn your screen off and not close out any programs that you have running. I use it all the time and have verified that it wont disconnect when connected with your computer.
Here is the link with more info. I have also included the cab from that post as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475762
Hope it works for you.
i'm a power user
i use gps, phone, email, text all day
i'm selling my touch pro because its useless
i cant charge the device because it overheats
the only option i have found is the mugen 3000mah battery
considering my total investment i have decided to go with a car-pc
have more features...more processing power...and certainly no issues like this
i'm really disappointed in the touch pro because of this
i thought all my problems were solved when i upgraded from the mogul
i'm going back to the mogul...its very reliable
i could do everything i needed without basic power problems
yes it lacks ram...but i never had issues which caused such frustration
anyways...sorry to be negative but this is the breaking point for me
i can see the touch pro being useful device...but not for me
i drove 1 hour on the gps and battery was dying...tried charging and it stopped.
i need functionality...
i could use the gps on the mogul for many hours...never having a problem.
the touch pro is unjustified
well it looks like in the past couple days no2chem has been attacking this issue for cdma users
i may give this a try...but my phone already gets really hot...
i'm not really sure how dangerous this might actually be
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/08/25/nueForceChargeOn-01-now-available.aspx
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/08/26/More-on-nueForceChargeOn-nuePower.aspx
eigerzoom said:
well it looks like in the past couple days no2chem has been attacking this issue for cdma users
i may give this a try...but my phone already gets really hot...
i'm not really sure how dangerous this might actually be
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/08/25/nueForceChargeOn-01-now-available.aspx
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/08/26/More-on-nueForceChargeOn-nuePower.aspx
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nueForceChargeOn 0.1 WOW!!! So they finally fixed it thats great I need to give them some money yay!!!!
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I've done searches and read here and on other forums. I am at my wits end. I'm using my touch pro with my laptop but the phone get's hot and turns off. It also doesn't charge while tethering. Does anyone have an actual solution to this problem? Is there a Rom that solves this problem? I love my phone but I travel 2x a month and don't want to pay for the WIFI in these hotels.
Anyone have a solution?
Thanks
Jeff
doesnt sound normal to me, did you contact sprint TS about this issue (wouldnt tell them you are tethering tho)?
get a long usb cable, put the phone next to the AC. the phone should be cooled enough to charge while tethering.
Go to Settings (WM, not TF3D)|System|Power and the Battery tab.
Make sure "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC." is unchecked.
As cloudy987 indicated, get the phone into a good cool air flow. Maybe even take the back off while tethered. Plastic is not that good a conductor.
there is a hack out there from nuerom that makes it so your battery driver works differently and allows it to charge more or till it hits a little bit of a higher temp or something (too lazy to re read the posts) but there is also a over/under clocking utility on the site that works on some versions of winmo (i think on 6.5+ it causes a deadlock on boot and forces you to factory reset ) but it allows you to change the processor speed to lower while teathered and makes it so the device wont over heat...
http://www.nuerom.com
this was a issue for me while on energy roms,i had to go to tweaks and in the tool folder and disable the fast charge toggle,i have to on most custom roms,but no issues after i turn it off
could be that the USB connector is getting screwed up... the one on my Titan went and it started with not being able to tether/sync, then it progressed to not being able to charge it.
I actually melted my phone with wifirouter and had to replace it. Luckily it was under warranty. Most of the time simply placing it on a small desktop fan kept it cool. Unfortunately for mine the damage was done before I figured this out. Treat it like an overclocked PC. It needs extra cooling to keep it from cooking itself.
I make it short:
Yeah another wifi/ battery thread. But the only one with an actual solution for pi poor battery life after 21 update. Some people reported it helped also with the sod.
Wifi sucks battery dead.
Some people let all sorts of juice sucking bat-control apps running to find out that stock app reading is not lying: The bloody wifi never turns off even set to do so in the settings and just kills the battery of the device.
If this is your workaround you owe me a thanks . If you are an Asus employee testing poor battery issue give me credits in the fixing OTA by repairing the 'never' settings:
Go to
settings, w-lan,advanced (click on the three dots in the upper right corner, there it is), keep_wifi_on_during_sleep:
Instead of setting it to 'never', set it to 'only when plugged in'.
Now put your machine in sleep, wake it after 30min or even much less and BOOOOOOM! here we go:
You will see in the battery settings, that your wifi just has stopped pausing. Depending on how long ago the battery cycle has started you will see two shorter bricks instead of a long one as before. While waking your machine concentrate on the battery icon and you will notice the wifi-icon popping up just a second after you have woken the screen.
Of course this works also with shorter breaks but I'm not sure what is the shortest interval. Longer sleep period opens the gap in between two wifi-sessions wider. So this makes the working proof easier visible for the eye.
Sort of really a shame that Asus, Google and Nvidia have hybrid, wrongly programmed and even forgotten settings in their setup. (see my thread about the multitasking of the HTC1X http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214 Maybe helps your multitasking issue.
But as we know, nobody is perfect .... except for xda!!
And then, many report, they don't have this problem at all. Very strange that not everybody is affected by this blind setting.
If this solution doesn't help your device,I am sorry for you. Maybe you have to stick to the bat-control app and learn how to read it, or RMA your device.
Did the job for me.
So I am ready for summer to join in, got enough juice for the IPS+ screen to stun the sun the whole day lun . Rock'n Roll
Edit 121002:
JellyBeans workaround as well.
Edit 120616:
Thank you Asus that the .28 firmware makes my workaround obsolet. Now get rid of this arm5 coding and let the bugger run !!
Edit 2:
Title changed from 'Asus you owe me a blowjob' to something less attractive for trolls.
Should be an obvious solution for everyone. But took me a hell of time to use the next best (second) obvious setting for my w-lan and get the battery saving.
Edit:
Please don't abuse my thread to flame, blame or mob your boss, retailer, dog or whomever. Only confirmation or non-confirmations welcome. If you find another or better or additional solution in the future or the past please feel free to post it. I did not have the time yet to check for the actual amount of powersafe but regarding my normal readings we are gaining the whole lost lot back and don't need to throttle down or ruin our eyes. I reckon the bat is gonna be better because now some of the ASUS optimisation hits some ground.
If you want me to fled off, I have stolen your ideas or you are an ASUS employee with no job-offer, don't PM me.
Thanks
I have been using this setting for a while and while I do get better battery life using the "when plugged in" setting than the newer "disconnect during sleep" setting, in general battery life is still worse in .21 than in previous builds and for me WiFi alone still accounts for more than 60% of my average battery usage according to the battery settings menu. For all of my other Android devices the screen is the largest single user of battery.
It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
eddymonti said:
It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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another way to MAKE SURE you save battery is turn the darn thing off and shutdown and then when you need it's ready to go. I been doing this more recently and it defeats the purpose of tablet, but hey, when i need to use it, after the boot up its on. not trying to be funny.
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning off your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
prettyboy85712 said:
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning of your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
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you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
demandarin said:
you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
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What's even funnier is that the OP is serious about his discovery. Guy probably thinks ASUS owes him something.
Nonetheless, thanks for the redundant tip OP.
Auto flight mode
I always install an auto flight mode program that will turn off the wifi when the screen turns off since most widgets prevents the system from turning it off and going into deep sleep.
almightywhacko said:
I have been using this setting for a while and while I do get better battery life using the "when plugged in" setting than the newer "disconnect during sleep" setting, in general battery life is still worse in .21 than in previous builds and for me WiFi alone still accounts for more than 60% of my average battery usage according to the battery settings menu. For all of my other Android devices the screen is the largest single user of battery.
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Thanks for confirming,
eddymonti said:
It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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Nice you confirm as well . Unfortunately solutions tend to be temporary, sighh.
flipper2006 said:
another way to MAKE SURE you save battery is turn the darn thing off and shutdown and then when you need it's ready to go. I been doing this more recently and it defeats the purpose of tablet, but hey, when i need to use it, after the boot up its on. not trying to be funny.
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Your way takes far too much time for me to act spontaneous. With my changed settings it's doing it automatically again, just as was intended the 'never' setting. Unless you charge the tablet by cord, the wifi turns off while you put the tablet asleep. I say settings are messed up.
prettyboy85712 said:
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning off your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
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Don't think you got my point, surely I am not getting yours. you quote your preposter who obviously disagrees with you.
But we both think it sucks, thanks.
demandarin said:
you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
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Glad you are having fun and proud you are tolling my thread as well vely sholt time
ungraph said:
What's even funnier is that the OP is serious about his discovery. Guy probably thinks ASUS owes him something.
Nonetheless, thanks for the redundant tip OP.
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You are welcome. You bet I am and I do and please show me the redundance, maybe demandarin can help you while I get a little nap now.
XXRay said:
I always install an auto flight mode program that will turn off the wifi when the screen turns off since most widgets prevents the system from turning it off and going into deep sleep.
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Yeah I seen you mentioning this, but I get rid of bloatware so why would I fill up with supposed stock apps. As I said, worked best for me
Thanks guys for the the exchange, keep on rowing fellas ..
ill be the first one to Thank the OP as no one has. At least he is trying to help and find a solution. Even if it was something already known for the longest time. Sorry if the humor wasn't funny to you. Maybe he didn't know people already knew about this. which is totally fair.
to the OP, have you noticed that when you put wifi to stay on only when plugged in, when in sleep, that it takes a little while for wifi to come back online? meaning if you use the setting you said, then put the prime to sleep unplugged, then wake it back up, wifi doesn't connect back immediately. it takes a few seconds to come back online. that's the only thing I personally don't like about it.
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ill be the first one to Thank the OP as no one has. At least he is trying to help and find a solution. Even if it was something already known for the longest time. Sorry if the humor wasn't funny to you. Maybe he didn't know people already knew about this. which is totally fair.
to the OP, have you noticed that when you put wifi to stay on only when plugged in, when in sleep, that it takes a little while for wifi to come back online? meaning if you use the setting you said, then put the prime to sleep unplugged, then wake it back up, wifi doesn't connect back immediately. it takes a few seconds to come back online. that's the only thing I personally don't like about it.
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yeah but personally this means to me it's working correctly. For the wifi to come back on instantly it would have to keep a connection and just not transfer data, when in deep sleep it completely turns off the wifi radio. When you wake it back up the radio turns back on, and it needs to connect to the AP all over again. This means the wifi was in a deep sleep (actually turned off the tab is in deep sleep) and it is working correctly.
I really wonder why every thread in this forum sooner or later becomes a trolling/flaming thread....
So guys, as usual (*sigh*) please stay on topic.
Trolling and flaming won't be tolerated but will be rewarded by other gifts like infractions and bans.
@OP: You might think about stoping posting in red: It usually implies a high rate of aggressivity towards other members.
Even if this might not be actually true in your case, other members still might missunderstand you.
On topic: This "fix" is really known since like, dunno, Froyo times? At least this setting is there already for ages.
Apart from that it should be obvious that turning off the Wifi drains less power.
However, you had good intentions so don't destroy them by flaming other members.
If you feel attacked by any post, just report it (obviously this goes for all members)
Thanks for clearing up, Diamondback,
What has been known since Froyo x.x is still worth mentioning. Many user have just started their android career because nowadays the hardware and the software are worth it. And once in a while talking about an old known tip is worthwhile especially since nobody else did.
@ demandarin ;-)
Edit on topic (referring to Diamondback):
This was no flame.
Asus shoot themselves in the foot, some people in my thread the same!
Obviously both the feet and so I call trolls by name,
themselves they should blame.
Right? Obviously not, which is a shame.
My only wrong the color of which I was ignorant,
shame on me!
I will change the teasing thread title
from Asus gets busted in Asus will get the game
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Elisha said:
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or Android in general) is also strongly linked to the number of apps synching in background.
Maybe it can be fixed with drivers. Lowering transmit power sounds good. Could be that Asus optimized to much for the folks complaining about wifi performance....
The setting to turn off wifi while the tablet sleeps makes no sense for my use case. I mean for a wifi only device, it makes not much sense to turn it's connection to the outside off. How will I then receive notifications on gtalk, mail and so on? If I would like to safe power that way, I rather turn it completely off.
For a phone with 3g / edge data connection it might make sense. This applies for the 3g iPad as well.
I agree, it got a bit worse with .21 but for me battery life is still awesome.
Thanks anyway for bringing it to the mind of new users. Although I wouldn't call this a fix but a workaround.
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Elisha said:
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Yes, I agree about the drain but isn't it probably because of the stylish casing! So nothing we can change there, but Asus could clock it down while asleep as you suggest.
tobi01001 said:
Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or .....
I agree, it got a bit worse with .21 but for me battery life is still awesome.
Thanks anyway for bringing it to the mind of new users. Although I wouldn't call this a fix but a workaround.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
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You are right I have already changed the op from fix to workaround.
tobi01001 said:
Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or Android in general) is also strongly linked to the number of apps synching in background.
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My iPad2 goes ding ding ding all night. Lots of apps syncing. 3 email accounts. CNN app, and multiple other apps.
But I think iOS uses a very low power state for background sync while in sleep compared to Android.
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Solved my problem.
thank you
Not sure if it's relevant because this was posted for the GS2 but it could also help with wifi drain on the prime.
from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25876666&postcount=3
"FAQ
Q: Wakelocks "wlan_rx_wake" wake up my device constantly what I can do about it?
A: The problem is neither Android nor the kernel, but the router and the (Windows7) network. In the network properties, uncheck "IPv6", disable the service "IP Helper", "Shell Hardware Detection" and "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service", which provide ongoing Traffic. Then they scored again 98% of deep sleep."
And how you disable ipv6 on your phone/tablet is with a script but the value in the file gets recreated everytime you turn wifi on and off. So if you disable ipv6 then turn wifi off, then back on, ipv6 will be enabled again. I got around this by a tasker profile that will run every time my tablet connects to a wifi network. So it disables ipv6 right away again. You could do this in an init.d script(or in sysctl) as well but then you have the issue of it resetting itself if you turn wifi off/on
If you have tasker create a new profile for when wifi is connected, then run a shell script task, and check run as root. This is the command echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan0/disable_ipv6
to enable it just replace the 1 with a 0. You can also run the command in a terminal window if you just want to test it. I did it for my phone, and I just set it for my prime so I'll see if it drains less battery with it off..
131313 said:
Yes, I agree about the drain but isn't it probably because of the stylish casing! So nothing we can change there, but Asus could clock it down while asleep as you suggest.
You are right I have already changed the op from fix to workaround.
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I would just like to say thanks and let you know that I had SOD problems on my prime (as bad as up to once every day in frequency) for a very long time since .21 came out, after trying your work around (several weeks ago) ever since I have not had a single SOD sleep of death issue whatsoever.
I always suspected it was dock recharging causing the SOD fault but maybe it was a bum wifi stack or something, so thank you very much my tab is much more stable because the suggestion you've shared with me.
Unfortunately it does not help any flickering or GPU bugs I tend to get on occasion. I truly hate .21 it is so god awful for GPU, SOD and storage I/O.
I should just man up and downgrade but meh, sif i have the time do it
But yeah, thanks heaps, your workaround is an awesome suggestion.
Ok i Dont ever use my port for charging just because i dont needa risk something happin.. anyway i use a wall charger and i have 2 extra batteries.. My question is does it afect my phone to just pull the battery without shuting it down.. whatever im in the middle of ill just take it out n swap. . sometimes my phone acts alittle weird when i boot and sometimes it dosnt. just always woundered
geek4u86 said:
Ok i Dont ever use my port for charging just because i dont needa risk something happin.. anyway i use a wall charger and i have 2 extra batteries.. My question is does it afect my phone to just pull the battery without shuting it down.. whatever im in the middle of ill just take it out n swap. . sometimes my phone acts alittle weird when i boot and sometimes it dosnt. just always woundered
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Shouldn't hurt anything. I used to do all the time when I listened to internet radio on my headset at work. I had to swap out a battery about every 3 hours. Like two or three times a day. I had a stack of batteries on my desk and would just rotate em in and out of the charger.
As far as I know linux/Android resets on every boot. A bit different than windows. You may get some inaccurate battery stats but that shouldn't matter because you will swap it out again with another one.
I know, the port on this phone is in a weird spot. Awkward to hold and play on the phone while charging.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removeable battery. So when the phone is dead, it has to be on the charger. You cannot charge the battery on an external charger. I would hate that.
I know with computers it's a bad idea. If the computer is writing something to disk, that file could get corrupted. This could lead to issues if that file is critical.
My guess is that it works similarly on the phone, but I'm not an Android engineer. Maybe there is a tolerance built in.
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coal686 said:
I know with computers it's a bad idea. If the computer is writing something to disk, that file could get corrupted. This could lead to issues if that file is critical.
My guess is that it works similarly on the phone, but I'm not an Android engineer. Maybe there is a tolerance built in.
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True that if I were downloading something or installing something, I would not recommend yanking the battery as you would definitely corrupt that file.
In fact to be on the safe side I'd set up on icon on the home screen to just power off and do that before I pulled the back off.
zcink said:
True that if I were downloading something or installing something, I would not recommend yanking the battery as you would definitely corrupt that file.
In fact to be on the safe side I'd set up on icon on the home screen to just power off and do that before I pulled the back off.
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You can download quickboot, which also turns you phone off
sent on my Evil Evo running the so called developers kernel
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zcink said:
Yes, that is the app I was thinking of. (I love that app -- use it all the time).
It has a shortcut you can put on the home screen for just poweroff.
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Yes a widget, love it to, I use my power button just to turn my phone on
sent on my Evil Evo running the other kernel 3.2.8
thanks for the answers.. ive found what ive needed out
Okay, I am having issues with my Note 3. I can run my phone as hard as i want and no problem until i get to about 50-60%. Then, my phone screen will just go black like the battery just died. Now if i plug it in for 1 second and hit the power button it starts booting up and i can immediately unplug it and it returns to 50-60% battery and continues to run fine. But it will not power up without plugging it in for a second. I even have a friend that is having the same issue with his att&t note 3 that has never been rooted ever. Just weird. I am currently running Vision-x vpucnc5 rom with calm kernal. I have tried multiple other roms and the problem still persist. I have even purchased another battery thinking that was the problem. I will include a screen shot of my battery info screen and all you see is a black line when it happened. Please help! Thanks in advance. .
When you run the device hard, is the phone getting hot? Do you have a big case on it? It sounds like the overheating sensor is kicking off the device. On my note 3, when running WiFi Tether Router app and it is downloading a big file say a movie. On 4g LTE at a download speed of 2MB+ the phone has gotten to hot and shut down. My solution is to take it out of the case when downloading.
Maybe plugging the charger into the device resets the overheating sensor?
Here is what I would do, here is a link to the Galaxy tool app http://forum.xda-developers.com/not.../app-one-click-hotspot-enabler-menus-t2816159 download and install. Now you test all the sensors, and check the logcats to see what happened at the black line. Your phone has record of it in the logcats, either in the IOTHIDDENMENU, or SYS_DUMP !!!
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When you run the device hard, is the phone getting hot? Do you have a big case on it? It sounds like the overheating sensor is kicking off the device. On my note 3, when running WiFi Tether Router app and it is downloading a big file say a movie. On 4g LTE at a download speed of 2MB+ the phone has gotten to hot and shut down. My solution is to take it out of the case when downloading.
Maybe plugging the charger into the device resets the overheating sensor?
Here is what I would do, here is a link to the Galaxy tool app http://forum.xda-developers.com/not.../app-one-click-hotspot-enabler-menus-t2816159 download and install. Now you test all the sensors, and check the logcats to see what happened at the black line. Your phone has record of it in the logcats, either in the IOTHIDDENMENU, or SYS_DUMP !!!
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Not really sure how to test the temp sensor. It seems from that app that my phone was at about 29 deg Celsius.
MRBULLRED said:
Not really sure how to test the temp sensor. It seems from that app that my phone was at about 29 deg Celsius.
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There is a free app in the Google play store called the "Cpu Temperature" it gives you CPU temp and Battery temp in C/F. You might install it and run the device hard up to 50-60% and see what your temp is.
Don't forget to scroll through those logcats to see what happened at the black line.
Also I noticed your Screen is using some Battery, what is the preset on display time? Mine is 2 minutes then shuts off, I know if you run the display constantly they get hot.
jimzweb1 said:
There is a free app in the Google play store called the "Cpu Temperature" it gives you CPU temp and Battery temp in C/F. You might install it and run the device hard up to 50-60% and see what your temp is.
Don't forget to scroll through those logcats to see what happened at the black line.
Also I noticed your Screen is using some Battery, what is the preset on display time? Mine is 2 minutes then shuts off, I know if you run the display constantly they get hot.
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Mine is set to 1 minute. The cpu temperature seems to stay around 100°F most of the time. However, after a random shutdown I noticed the temp was 140°F while booting it up right after the shutdown. Also. I uprooted and went back to stock NC5 yesterday. Still had the same problem today.
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Mine is set to 1 minute. The cpu temperature seems to stay around 100°F most of the time. However, after a random shutdown I noticed the temp was 140°F while booting it up right after the shutdown. Also. I uprooted and went back to stock NC5 yesterday. Still had the same problem today.
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My CPU temp is about 115F with WiFi Tether Router running pretty much all day. My Battery temp is 86F. My device feels cool to the touch, except just under the camera flash where the CPU is. What is your Battery temp at 50-60% ? Maybe you have a short in your Battery that creates excessive temp at the half way discharge point? Do you have access to another Battery to swap out and see if that has any effect?
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My CPU temp is about 115F with WiFi Tether Router running pretty much all day. My Battery temp is 86F. My device feels cool to the touch, except just under the camera flash where the CPU is. What is your Battery temp at 50-60% ? Maybe you have a short in your Battery that creates excessive temp at the half way discharge point? Do you have access to another Battery to swap out and see if that has any effect?
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First of all thanks so much for all your help.
My device feels cool to the touch all the time. Running candy crush seems to make it run at about 120f. Still feels cool to the touch. It happened with the battery that came with the phone so I bought another one thinking that was the problem. Do I buy a third?
MRBULLRED said:
First of all thanks so much for all your help.
My device feels cool to the touch all the time. Running candy crush seems to make it run at about 120f. Still feels cool to the touch. It happened with the battery that came with the phone so I bought another one thinking that was the problem. Do I buy a third?
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No, I think two is enough. Check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fls4NIRJ1IQ maybe this is the fix.
If not here is Sprint.com's suggestion, here is the link http://support.sprint.com/support/a...expectedly/WTroubleshootingGuide_542_GKB59231
jimzweb1 said:
No, I think two is enough. Check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fls4NIRJ1IQ maybe this is the fix.
If not here is Sprint.com's suggestion, here is the link http://support.sprint.com/support/a...expectedly/WTroubleshootingGuide_542_GKB59231
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Do you think this looks normal?
MRBULLRED said:
Do you think this looks normal?
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NO, anything with Kim Kardashian in it is not normal. Lol As for the device that temp seems a little high, right now I am running 114F CPU and the Battery is 84F. The deivce is running WiFi Tether Router, plus a half dozen other apps, and charging. Let me hunt up the specs on the average operating temp on your CPU.
Hey if you get a chance try this. Go to settings/device/call and uncheck " Turn off screen during calls" the screen will stay on during calls. But if it doesn't go black then its the proximity sensor. It may be defective or may not deactivating because of a case.
Hi
I lately noticed that my S10 (G973F on ASH1) battery drain was noticeably higher when using bluetooth and that the drain continues even if I turn off the bluetooth (no, wifi and bluetooth scanning are not enabled). The only way to return to "normal" drain is to reboot the phone with bluetooth off and to not enable it at all.
I did some durability tests the past days with 2 scenarios:
1. Unplug the phone in the morning charged at 100%, ensure the bluetooth is off, reboot the phone and use it the whole day without touching the bluetooth
2. Unplug the phone in the morning charged at 100%, turn on bluetooth, optionally connect to a device, turn off bluetooth, and use the phone the whole day without touching the bluetooth.
My results are (with same usage, apps, conditions...) :
Scenario 1 : Average 8h SOT / 15h uptime
Scenario 2 : Average 5h30 SOT / 15h uptime
I know this is far from being scientific, that's why I call it just a theory. It's up to you to confirm or deny it ...
I totally believe it. The super interesting part to me is that turning it off doesn't affect the battery drain.
I certainly would love to know the reason why that is. Personally i haven't noticed the same thing (atleast as badly).
There's a lot of variables so I'm going to throw out a few theories/guesses (in order of my best to worst guess)
- it has to do with what kind of device you're connecting to... Probably a device that wakes up a background service of some sort (that doesn't ever sleep properly, so most likely a Samsung system service) is it something like a Samsung gear device or Galaxy buds? Anything Samsung?
- I know you already mentioned device scanning is off, i assume you're referring to the Samsung setting, but there are device scanning settings tucked away in the Google settings.
- some rogue app is glitching in the background, it sees Bluetooth is on, so keeps trying to peak at what's going on and scan for beacons or something like that. Best guess is Facebook. But it could be many others.
All in all, its almost certainly not Bluetooth itself, but rather something that's too active in the background and keeps trying to sneak a look at Bluetooth connections.
Install better battery stats, run the adb commands to set up for non-root. That should tell you what's waking your phone so often.
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I totally believe it. The super interesting part to me is that turning it off doesn't affect the battery drain.
I certainly would love to know the reason why that is. Personally i haven't noticed the same thing (atleast as badly).
There's a lot of variables so I'm going to throw out a few theories/guesses (in order of my best to worst guess)
- it has to do with what kind of device you're connecting to... Probably a device that wakes up a background service of some sort (that doesn't ever sleep properly, so most likely a Samsung system service) is it something like a Samsung gear device or Galaxy buds? Anything Samsung?
- I know you already mentioned device scanning is off, i assume you're referring to the Samsung setting, but there are device scanning settings tucked away in the Google settings.
- some rogue app is glitching in the background, it sees Bluetooth is on, so keeps trying to peak at what's going on and scan for beacons or something like that. Best guess is Facebook. But it could be many others.
All in all, its almost certainly not Bluetooth itself, but rather something that's too active in the background and keeps trying to sneak a look at Bluetooth connections.
Install better battery stats, run the adb commands to set up for non-root. That should tell you what's waking your phone so often.
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Your analysis is pretty logical and I fully agree with it.
I already tried BBS (rooted) and got no convincing results (nearly the same kernel wakelocks, partial wakelocks, etc).
I also sent to samsung a bug report with the dumps and logs needed and should be soon contacted by them for further collaboration if needed.
But while waiting, it will be really a good thing if more users could test the two scenarios I mentioned and post their feedback.
Hey, First thank you for the knowledge. I will try to do that and will give feedback
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Hey, First thank you for the knowledge. I will try to do that and will give feedback
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That would be kind from you
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...e-und-mehr.904568-page-165.html#post-11710349
I posted your idea in a German Android forum. Maybe there are some testers.
audianer said:
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...e-und-mehr.904568-page-165.html#post-11710349
I posted your idea in a German Android forum. Maybe there are some testers.
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Great idea. Thx :good:
Hey,
sorry your theory is not true.
On the screenshots:
"Ohne BT" meens i restarted the phone in the morning and dont use bluetooth.
"Mit BT" meens i used bluetooth for streaming for some minutes.
audianer said:
Hey,
sorry your theory is not true.
On the screenshots:
"Ohne BT" meens i restarted the phone in the morning and dont use bluetooth.
"Mit BT" meens i used bluetooth for streaming for some minutes.
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That's a very well done experimentation ! It's the first case contradicting the theory.
I should have done some similar screenshots before updating to latest ASH6 on which I am unable to reproduce the "bug" ...
But there are very many rely on bluetooth. In the car, smartwatch, etc