Dear Forum,
Does anybody know if HTC will release an original supported ROM with WM 6.5. for the touch PRo ?
THanks!
I read on an HTC support forum that the Pure will be the first phone to be officially released with a factory 6.5 ROM. There will not be a 6.5 release for any phones older then the Pure.
Solarenemy68 said:
I read on an HTC support forum that the Pure will be the first phone to be officially released with a factory 6.5 ROM. There will not be a 6.5 release for any phones older then the Pure.
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Dontcha think thats kinda bogus? I buy a Dell laptop and Microsoft and Dell keep me informed on all updates for my system, regardless of the age of my equipment. Yet the Windows Mobile and HTC community get a "one time help" kinda attitude? I believe HTC and the Windows Mobile Division of Microsoft needs to donate alot to XDA-DEVELOPERS, Blownfuze and the other amazing sites for taking up where they left off...which is actually as soon as u leave the friggin store!
NOTE TO HTC AND MICROSOFT (Windows Mobile division): If u have a product u stand by and u want more ppl to use it; try doing regular updates and software upgrades of the products u say is "ahead of its time" when its at the store. Yet as soon as we walk out the door ur tellin others its "last years 'has-beens'". Word-of-mouth travels faster than u know. Which way do u think Im gonna be swayed?
Im proud to call xda-developers my home for the best programs, software and advice for my HTC devices.
Special thanx goes out to: Noellenchris, DA_G, jcmkjeer, Lexxirae, WhiskeyBro and many many others who have made this site, the programs, advice, add-ons and ROMs the very best they can be. And for welcoming me and treating me with respect, regardless of how dumb my questions or concerns were! LOL
See? Its all about helping thy brother, or sister... and of course shovin our new stuff in the faces of those with lower grade devices, lmao. Sorry, this just seemed to be the right place to put this opinion.
official wm 6.5 touch pro 2 released for southeast asia
http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=736
Uhm, you probably already know, but we don't own a Touch Pro 2...We are on the Raphael forum for a reason m8...
All the hardware meets the minimum, (and recommended), requirements, except for one thing. No "start" key. Because of the lack of this one feature, WM 6.5 will not officially be released for the TP1.
http://gizmodo.com/5374876/windows-mobile-65-review-theres-no-excuse-for-this
The second most obvious change is the Start Menu, which Microsoft is so proud of that they've required all 6.5 phone to include a dedicated button for it on all "Windows Phones" a la the Windows Key on a PC.
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my bad
too much sleep. not enough caffeine.
and probably a bit too much wishing.
k-semler said:
All the hardware meets the minimum, (and recommended), requirements, except for one thing. No "start" key. Because of the lack of this one feature, WM 6.5 will not officially be released for the TP1.
http://gizmodo.com/5374876/windows-mobile-65-review-theres-no-excuse-for-this
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Which, as I'm sure we can both agree, is complete bull****. Microsoft should not be able to impose such restrictions on what amounts to an interim release.
phonefan said:
Which, as I'm sure we can both agree, is complete bull****. Microsoft should not be able to impose such restrictions on what amounts to an interim release.
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I'll second that motion. The barrier to an official release being dependent on the graphics of a button on the front of the phone, is assanine to say the least. Remap the "home" button to be "start", and problem solved except for the graphics of the windows flag.
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As we know the HTC HD2 is a very good phone let down by Windows 6.5 being the operating system, obviously the options that are currently open to us are to upgrade the ROM and install a snazzy new theme from this website or plonk Google Android on it.... however....
I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
Has anyone found or heard of any grounded evidence that this will happen or is it all a pipe dream?
All communications regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
- Thank you for your time and for reading this.
- Vicky
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I remember seeing free WM 7 update for HD2 few months back. But I don't think we will get it until the end of holiday season. Because they want to sell HD7 too.
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I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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.... I have counted the number of buttons on the HD7 and it is exactly the same number as on the HD2 but placed differently around the screene
HTC is playing a nice game with us
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Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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HTC HD2 - 5 buttons
HTC HD7 - 3 buttons
HD2 has enought buttons , obviously more than Windows Phone 7 needs
I heard it's actually because of the extra buttons.
Not entirely sure what to make of it - whether is was real or not just came across it and thought I'd share:
Windows Phone 7 Running on HTC HD2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_NJatLVQk
HTC support told me that there will be upgrade for the HD2.
Windows Phone 7 devices should have only a Back-Button, Windows-Start-Button and a BING-Search-Button. Additional buttons can be e.g. Volumecontrol- or Cameracontrol-Buttons. The HD2 has no Search-Button and the Call-Accept/End-Buttons and the Home-Button are not supported natively by Windows Phone 7, thats why the HD2 never gets an official upgrade to WP7.
@TriniKing_CE: This video might be true. Cotulla is trying to port WP7 to the HD2 but he says it will be more difficult than expected! So you have to wait for a stable and full working rom!
Greez zyclop
vickythelizard said:
As we know the HTC HD2 is a very good phone let down by Windows 6.5 being the operating system, obviously the options that are currently open to us are to upgrade the ROM and install a snazzy new theme from this website or plonk Google Android on it.... however....
I have heard rumors that the HTC HD2 will be getting a free upgrade to the Windows Mobile 7 operating system.
Has anyone found or heard of any grounded evidence that this will happen or is it all a pipe dream?
All communications regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
- Thank you for your time and for reading this.
- Vicky
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I have to disagree, I do not think that the HD2 is "let down" by WM6.5.....
It is far and away the most versatile OS as far as I can see. Ok the actual WM interface is dated but I still find the windows version of sense to be much nicer than the android equivalent. I have been using android a lot lately and find it to be so much more restrictive than WM. However it cannot be denied that it is much more suitable for the "average user" ( I tried to phrase that without coming across as a techno snob )
As far as the free upgrade to WP7 is concerned Im afraid you were misinformed... It has been officially stated that this will not happen
c_arivazhagan said:
I remember seeing free WM 7 update for HD2 few months back. But I don't think we will get it until the end of holiday season. Because they want to sell HD7 too.
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Again I think you have either misread or been misinformed..........
UncleBeer said:
Official word is NO. Apparently our phones don't have enough buttons (I am not kidding).
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Too many buttons..........
TriniKing_CE said:
Not entirely sure what to make of it - whether is was real or not just came across it and thought I'd share:
Windows Phone 7 Running on HTC HD2?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_NJatLVQk
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The general concensus is that this video comes from cotulla and if theres anyone that will bring WP7 to the HD2 it will be him (and the rest of DFT)
Theres a pretty good chance that vid is genuine however I wouldnt expect to see an actual release for a long time.......
conchubar said:
HTC support told me that there will be upgrade for the HD2.
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Nope...........
zyclop said:
Windows Phone 7 devices should have only a Back-Button, Windows-Start-Button and a BING-Search-Button. Additional buttons can be e.g. Volumecontrol- or Cameracontrol-Buttons. The HD2 has no Search-Button and the Call-Accept/End-Buttons and the Home-Button are not supported natively by Windows Phone 7, thats why the HD2 never gets an official upgrade to WP7.
@TriniKing_CE: This video might be true. Cotulla is trying to port WP7 to the HD2 but he says it will be more difficult than expected! So you have to wait for a stable and full working rom!
Greez zyclop
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Beat me to it...........
conantroutman said:
I have to disagree, I do not think that the HD2 is "let down" by WM6.5.....
It is far and away the most versatile OS as far as I can see. Ok the actual WM interface is dated but I still find the windows version of sense to be much nicer than the android equivalent. I have been using android a lot lately and find it to be so much more restrictive than WM. However it cannot be denied that it is much more suitable for the "average user" ( I tried to phrase that without coming across as a techno snob )
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I completely agree with that. WM 6.5 is a great OS and I really want to have a device running it. But most manufacturers have set up there priority to Android or Windows Phone 7. I preffer to buy a HD2, because it is the most exciting phone. It can run Android and maybe later WP7 if Cotulla get it working. But it also would be nice if any manufacturer like HTC bring out new WM 6.5 devices, because WM6.5 is not outdated.
I am a user which has no prejudices against any operating system. It is only a matter of taste which you want to have and which you need for your requirements. WM is almost the only OS, which is not addicted to any big concern. While using Android, Google is omnipresent, while using an iPhone you have restrictions from Apple everywhere. And on WM you can install what you want. I also can run non Microsoft software and if you want you can run Android by using HARET. Tell me any other OS which is able to perform a dualboot or wich is able to run a second OS parallel?! I guess there is NO!
Wow, just wait for genius chef if they can make this device capable of running android. Not sure how can we invite them to start working on this.
Can we all make a combined request to great chefs of Android as they made it possible for HD2 so nothing is impossible for them.
I have to ask: why would we possibly want Android when we have WP7? Surely we would all have bought Nexus S' if we wanted Android :S
Wrong answer.
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
djfuego said:
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
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Since this phone uses android like hardware that could maybe not be the thing on the mozart, but even so.
I totally agree that it is a waste of time
I want to see Android!! I was not able to purchase the HTC Desire HD... this was the best i could get. So why not have the option to play around....
.....*Sigh*
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
I want a phone that can duel boot WP7 and Androd.
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
ds4 said:
i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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Then why the hell did you buy a WP7 phone?! And just so that you know, "M$" went out of fashion like 10 years ago, and just makes you seem like a bit of a stuck up idiot.
ds4 said:
... just want android.
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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Well, I have no doubt on your opinion, in fact most of the people would have same opinion, Don't you think its a very simple thing that one can't miss, if we want android then go and buy android,
but according to me there are two ways to live life, one simplest way and second to go beyond limit and do something different.
if we buy android then there is near to impossible to enjoy windows 7 but if we have wp7 then there is possibility to enjoy android and that's in bl** single device wow. no need to have two sim two phone to enjoy life.
After all that's my desire that One day Chef will come and listen to us.
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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you are wrong..... Microsoft will know which phone been modified from HD2 by using hardware id..... muahahaha.... you are using illegal OS....
Afaik Mozart is the only handset with a 1ghz+ CPU and a Xenon flash that is "potentially" capable of running android, that fact alone makes it worth modding on imo. Would be fun to see if someone got it working, but right now I'm hoping the motoroi 2 will come out soon =)
Edit: And about legality - many countries (like norway) have laws that forbid EULAs that restrict using other software on your hardware, effectively nullifying that concern
im looking for experiment like this, run android on mozart or any wp7 phone.
Would be great, but i think there isn't a big community for Mozart 7, and special for Android on Mozart
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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your live id is stored in the phones registry
If you are running androind there is no access to that
How could microsoft ban you, magic?
Running androind i would have thought it's pretty clear you wont have access to live functions
but aside from that.
Running custom roms are 'fun' and it's why these forums exist
Well, WP7 rom for HD2 has been around xda forum for a few days now, and we all know who we should send a "thank you" to. However, I've been questioning that why Cotulla and DFT are still keeping silent about this launch then?
If you could remember that Cotulla was the first dev. announced the good new about Nandroid on HD2, and he was also the first dev. to post a NANDROID rom for us (here).
So do you know why he hasn't said anything about this very big achievement then?
I think it's because of (possible) legal issues with Microsoft... Don't quote me on that though.
I'm wondering the same
Legal issues ? maybe ..
One of the big reasons is because he is not ready to release it. The Devs are still making changes to the Magldr and will be releasing an updated version at a later point with more bugs ironed out.
As far as legal issues, its the same thing it was with WinMo 6.5...people cooked ROMS and there was no legal issue behind it.
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One of the big reasons is because he is not ready to release it. The Devs are still making changes to the Magldr and will be releasing an updated version at a later point with more bugs ironed out.
As far as legal issues, its the same thing it was with WinMo 6.5...people cooked ROMS and there was no legal issue behind it.
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but people cook wm 6.5 in phone that have wm 6.5 in the first place
hd2 is wm6.5 phone, not wp 7
there is no legal restriction for announcing this
they are waiting for the right time to give a fully working wp7
this i just a warming up release
Or they are waiting for this huge forum makeover to post they rom in proper WP7 section
paciukiewicz said:
Or they are waiting for the this huge forum makeover to post they rom in proper WP7 section
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Yeah.you spot the light.
m2shakiba said:
there is no legal restriction for announcing this
they are waiting for the right time to give a fully working wp7
this i just a warming up release
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i hope you are right..
but i think the legal problem hurdle them to release here,,attorney from MS could be annoying..
it is possible that dft released wp7 in china and see what reaction of MS would be, and then step forword..
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One of the big reasons is because he is not ready to release it. The Devs are still making changes to the Magldr and will be releasing an updated version at a later point with more bugs ironed out.
As far as legal issues, its the same thing it was with WinMo 6.5...people cooked ROMS and there was no legal issue behind it.
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m2shakiba said:
there is no legal restriction for announcing this
they are waiting for the right time to give a fully working wp7
this i just a warming up release
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Sorry but you guys are simply wrong.
It hasn't been directly released via XDA simply because xda is hosted on US servers, and XDA could be held liable if any posting or WP7 roms. M$ wants WP7 to be allot more locked down then the legacy version of OS.
It was released elsewhere because they are on Chinese servers.
I really do hope that we start getting dev going on on here and that custom roms are eventually released but from what ive been told its not likely atm. It will probably happen via 3rd parties willing to post like teh person who got permission to post the release here.
eg:- we buy car . we change tires , paint , tuned engine etc
we buy htc hd2 . we change boot loader , phone pouch , tuned os etc
we bourght than its ours .
sathara said:
eg:- we buy car . we change tires , paint , tuned engine etc
we buy htc hd2 . we change boot loader , phone pouch , tuned os etc
we bourght than its ours .
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True. But you didnt buy the wp7 os. So micro$oft cant say anything to you about running andoid on your phone. But if you tried to run wp7 on the desire hd, they would be able to do something, because the os hasnt been liscensed to you to run on that phone. When someone purchases an hd7, they have permission to run wp7 on it, or anything else the may want without m$ stepping in. Its not like android which is open source, and free for all to meddle with.
sathara said:
eg:- we buy car . we change tires , paint , tuned engine etc
we buy htc hd2 . we change boot loader , phone pouch , tuned os etc
we bourght than its ours .
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Spot on! Exactly what i think!
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True. But you didnt buy the wp7 os. So micro$oft cant say anything to you about running andoid on your phone. But if you tried to run wp7 on the desire hd, they would be able to do something, because the os hasnt been liscensed to you to run on that phone. When someone purchases an hd7, they have permission to run wp7 on it, or anything else the may want without m$ stepping in. Its not like android which is open source, and free for all to meddle with.
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Don't use it!
It is your right to do whatever you want and not do a thing that you don't want to.
Why someone keeps poping these stupid threads.
There is a great conspiracy with the aliens and MS and Cotulla is hiding from them!
Guys dont get me wrong, I dont give a **** what M$ thinks and if I want it on my phone ill put it on my phone but..
Stop been naive about this, They own teh software and license it out via OEM, technically if they really want to do it they could sue anybody hosting the ROM or anybody supplying the rom, its as simple as that.
This is specifically why things have gone a bit quiet from XDA/DFT, well at least on here anyway.
You guys should just let it be and forget about it, we have our rom and thats all that matters.
All copyright/licensing restrictions are COMMERCIAL. All Commerce operates under Statute law. All statute law is not law at all but COLOR of law and only enforceable WITH YOUR CONSENT. Stop consenting.
Hey, you probably heard that WP7 has been ported on HD2.
Well, that's a great start. But I think we can try it out... Even it would be a lot buggy or slow or anything else... I think if we contact DFT (Dark Forces Team) they might help us out... I know it's near impossible (because of our ARMv6 CPU. == WP7 needs an ARMv7 CPU which HD2 has it.) But it's not impossible completely... Let's do something about it... What do you say devs?
I'm just waiting for the hackers team is to discuss about this. Because I am only new person in the world PHONE.
im will suporter to u all
Come on ,it will be great to run wp7 on topaz
Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a port for the Topaz, and I'd probly try it out... But I'm looking forward to the cracking of WP7 on WP7 phones so that I can upgrade to a new phone and not be stuck with that horrible start screen
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I appreciate that... But as I mentioned above, it's near impossible... Not completely. Your'e right... Topaz has ARMv6 processor... WP7 requires ARMv7. But i'm talking about experiencing it on Topaz... By the way, I agree with oldness of Topaz... I'm gonna buy a Desire HD
It's wishfull thinking and never going to happen. The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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And wouldn't that be great!!!!
That ain't true I find that the ui from wp7 is lite and simple. This can easily be ported to our devices with a little magic. But The part of windows live games or xbox live is the part that our devices cant handle. Our devices aren't old they where made cheap by htc and att to cover some sectors of the market. But our devices could have been easily been made with the same stuff as hd2, as few months passed since each launched.
The ui is simpler than ours and faster I think it could be done......just that I need to finish studying by then to make this. And I don't think of waiting is another great idea. As we are shadowed by what could have been if we had a twin processor to hd2's. But, we bought this and I find it great!
And please respect each other!!!!!
I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
wp7 requires ARMv7 instruction set on cpu. but topaz is just ARMv6 i think. that's why I think it's not possible
Moreover, why would you want WP7? The only thing it has going for it is that it runs smoothly and doesn't crash, which it would NOT do if someone did manage to port it. Better off building skins over 6.5.x; that way you could at least retain functionality...
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
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I am waiting, good luck man
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
stirkac said:
actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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I agree. I'm moving to iPhone 4 or Sensation or EVO 3D...
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
pef6000 said:
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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The simple answer here is...No! There are three variants of the Titan; the first one was a coon's age ago and the last two might as well be from different planets. The "Eternity" variant is the one you want; the "Radiance" variant is a lesson in futility as are all future Windows Phones. In an earlier life the Windows Mobile 6.x platform could be customized in every way Android is today. Windows Phone 7 comes along and the braintrust at every carrier and Microsoft decided to make life hard for us who enjoy customizing our phones and you'd think common sense would win the day...oh no...despite a 3.1% marketshare and royally pissing off every WP7 phone owner along the way they continue to lock these phones down and as more than a few Lumia 920 (WP8) owners will tell you the latest update now won't allow them to edit their mobile data speed and most are now stuck on LTE and what do we know about LTE boys and girls....one, not everybody has it; two, a lot of folks don't have it; and three, you can't edit the device to HSPA+, 3G or 2G as we Eternity variant Titans can. To answer your question head on - The Titan II cannot be tinkered with and no device since can on WP7 or WP8 platforms. Prior to Titan II...you bet; the HTC HD2 is the device you want for tinkering on any platform known to man; one look at its XDA main page will tell you its your device of choice for customized flashing of any ROM on any platform and it is extremely doubtful there will be another device like it ever made again, but one can wish...hopelessly. All that said, I love my Titan I, the Eternity. There are multiple level of locks...there's Interop, Developer and HSPL and you need all of them to play. It is not for the faint of heart, this is not Android....I can tell you I successfully HSPL my phones but I can also tell you I was scared to death I bricked them too, but there is a world of difference between a WP phone you can install your own apps like the Windows Mobile days or be so locked down there's no joy in any of it. Today, I'm on the fence as to whether to remain with Windows Phone despite what appears they finally got right with WP8 but I'm sick of this attitude that our devices have to be locked down that you're left to their whims not your own. One look at the WP pages will tell you development is little compared to Android. I ordered my wife's HTC One from HTC for $649.99, the 64GB Developer Edition and the next thing I did was install Launcher 8. Yes, under the hood it's different but it made for easy navigation of apps. I expect someone on Android is going to create a "live" tile for a WP8 skin of Android and likely I'm gone from WP. I'm not aware there is any further development going on over at WP7.8; there is some rumor that across the pond there is to be a WP7.9 release but as to what that is likely to entail; I don't know. Rumor is begging for a better bluetooth interface which is sorely missed even on WP8...what were they thinking? If you use Skype, it doesn't run in background on WP7.x. It's a mix bag...I love the platform, I'm sick of how the powers that be have really ruined it for us who enjoy it for what it is...different and I'm not kidding when I say this, it runs as smooth as butter; I simply do not understand the brain trust behind it and why they made it so damn hard for those of us who have been loyal to them for years.
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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rowlie50 said:
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Or an HD2 running WP7.8 or as I am currently the NexusHD which I'm about to update to NativeSD with his most recent release. I am so fet up with all the obstacles that Windows Phone owners have had to put up with and even if you are HSPL and Developer and Interop Unlocked there are still obstacles and Android there is none and I simply don't understand the logic of what Microsoft and carriers are trying to accomplish; you'd think they'd welcome what contributors at XDA have done and maybe flashing my Titan today is a good example trying to setup Straight Talk with MMS, make Bing Map and Windows Phone Marketplace play nice and nope, no can do! Android? No problem. Throw my HD2 into the mix and despite only having EDGE; it all works but the bottom line is, you shouldn't have to pay for what you benefit from using W-Fi not mobile data.
Thank you guys for your answers. So I suppose there is no advantage of customisation with Windows Phones ^^
Take a look in the Titan ROM development, i,m running Dynamics 2.0 by ultrashot.... best ROM in my opinion. I edited the registry so it thinks its a Nokia, this way I get all the nokia apps. Read the thread to get a good idea of what a custom ROM gives you. Rumour has it that version 2.2 coming soon so keep an eye out. Rooting the Titan really is risky so read up on it before you take the plunge!
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Thank you ! I'll check that