Ive been trying to find a answer and cant quite figure it out.
I was on Alltel and was moved to VZW during the merger.
I have flashed my phone(alltel branded ppc6800) with Ryanmougl's heavy Alltel rom and it works great.
I just wonder if I can just flash with his VZW firmware and it will work since my phone is registered on VZW because of the merger.
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I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but it seems like the best bet on someone knowing a definite answer.
I'm currently with alltel and am looking to get a ppc-8600, however on browsing around i'm noticing the sprint phones are $100-200 cheaper in general than that alltel branded ones.
Is the only difference the firmware and how long they've been out, or is there hardware differences as well? Will a sprint phone flashed to alltel have any feature/response difference?
More importantly, does anyone know for sure if alltel lets people use sprint branded phones that they sell the same model for, assuming the esn # is clear?
Likewise if anyone has an experience with it, assuming an alltel phone, or the flashed sprint phone works, would it be possible to flash over to say, the new sprint rom comming that enables full gps, and still use with alltel?
Edit: I realize i was being completely dyslexic when i first posted this. I mean the 6800. My apolgies.
Hi,
I will attempt to answer a few questions and relinquish what I do know...
I have the Alltel PPC6800. It believe it has been out since early October; maybe a little before. The Sprint version (Mogul) is cheaper because the Sprint client database is MUCH larger. Asides from the Alltel version clad all in black, the Alltel has a better radio firmware that can be installed on the Sprint Mogul. Also, the Moguls from Sprint have been plaqued with Bluetooth issues. My PPC6800's Bluetooth works great. Software differences will include Network specific apps, PRL list, etc.
I know Verizon recently released information that they were going to allow other CDMA networks phones on their network but I do not think Sprint or Alltel will. At least not yet.
i bought an HTC PPC6800 Mogul (on ebay) for the alltel network any ideas, for a noob, on how to make this work with sprint?
i bought an HTC PPC6800 Mogul (on ebay) for the alltel network any ideas, for a noob, on how to make this work with sprint?
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Why would you buy an alltel phone off ebay if you want to use Sprint's network?
i bought the alltel version because i saved 400 bucks doing that, also the same phone is available for both providers so technically there shouldnt be any problems using one or the other right? i am stuck with sprint so must use them for now
Yes there is one big problem. You can't use an Alltel ESN on the Sprint network unless you somehow manage to get Sprint to add it to their database.
so i am stuck with a phone for alltel that i will not get to use with sprint, ever?
Pretty much...unless you can SOMEHOW convince a dumbass sprint rep to add it for you (pretty much never happens)...or you clone a Sprint ESN which is illegal.
Sprint to Alltel
I flashed a Sprint Touch(6900) with the official Alltel rom and Alltel added with no problems and everything on the phone worked great. I would think you can just flash a sprint carrier rom, now whether Sprint will add an Alltel ESN on your account I do not know....
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alltell doesnt care as long as its a phone that they sell ... sprint cares... now for the ESN thing as long as its not a ESN in use by a other phone in therory it isnt cloning its just barrowing... say my old phone broke and i used its ESN this is all theory though good luck
seems i got sprint to add the phone i flashed from alltel to sprint, yea. NOW i would like to supercid it any ideas?
My apologies if this has been covered....I searched a bit but didn't find the answer.
My friend has a Mogul he got from sprint. He'd like to sell it to me for $75.
I wonder. If I use DCD kitchen, load the verizon radio, DCD ROM, then the verizon Carrier cab......would it work?
Thanks,
Matt
sudermatt said:
My apologies if this has been covered....I searched a bit but didn't find the answer.
My friend has a Mogul he got from sprint. He'd like to sell it to me for $75.
I wonder. If I use DCD kitchen, load the verizon radio, DCD ROM, then the verizon Carrier cab......would it work?
Thanks,
Matt
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I don't believe so. The radio in the sprint phone is GSM and the radio in the Verizon phone is CDMA.
Edit: I am incorrect. Sprint is CDMA and Verizon is CDMA... so I'm guessing that it could be possible. I have yet to test this though.
The answer is yes and no.
Yes, it is the exact same hardware, and therefore you can flash a custom rom/radio and install the verizon carrier cab leaving you with an xv6800 with a mogul casing.
The only issue is getting Verizon to activate it on their network, as it has a Sprint ESN. In the past, they were very strict about not allowing any non-Verizon ESN's in their database, though I've heard RUMORS that they've eased up a bit on it due to their "Open Network" campaign.
Honestly, it's a crapshoot, but if you can get Verizon Support to activate it, then it would work perfectly.
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The answer is yes and no.
Yes, it is the exact same hardware, and therefore you can flash a custom rom/radio and install the verizon carrier cab leaving you with an xv6800 with a mogul casing.
The only issue is getting Verizon to activate it on their network, as it has a Sprint ESN. In the past, they were very strict about not allowing any non-Verizon ESN's in their database, though I've heard RUMORS that they've eased up a bit on it due to their "Open Network" campaign.
Honestly, it's a crapshoot, but if you can get Verizon Support to activate it, then it would work perfectly.
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I heard somewhere that verizon has a new policy to support any phone on their network, but they also call their data plan with a 5GB cap the "UNLIMITED" plan. Go figure.
Hopefully when Sprint comes out with the Diamond and other awesome new HTC phones about a year ahead of Verizon, we will be able to active their hardware on The Network. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Yes it can be done. i have an alltel ppc6800 on vzw. the easiest way to do it is from the vzw website esn switch or activate equipment. There are some other steps you have to take to get the software loaded, not the stock rom. Then you will have to call vzw and have them reset your DMU keys. start here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090
or send you phone in:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24855
Oh and you'll have yo change the SPC code since it's a sprint phone. need to get that to a 000000, again the first post will help with that.
Hope this helps.
With Alltel switching over to Verizon witch ii really thinks suck I wuz wondering is there anyway I can switch over from Alltel to Sprint but keep my same phone. Also its been flashed so would I have to flash it back to the stock alltel rom before I go to sprint
Hi, I have my Htc6800 (formely on alltel) and I got everything (voice,internet,mms,gps)working on MetroPcs. Now I got my friend Verizon XV6800 phone to flash to MetroPcs. I programmed everything exactly same as my 6800 but with his settings and number. I can not get any voice service. It has no Signal, I get this weird icon next to the signal tree. See Picture http://img81.imageshack.us/i/noservice.png/ . I have Rom MetroPCs2.1, radio 3.42.50 on both phones, and PRL list 00068. Both running Ryan mogul Version 2.1 Light (WM 6.5) *Default Titanium. I tired to flash back original Verizon rom and I can do it but get same problem. I may add that both phones have cloned ESN's but only one works. His phone has his esn and mine has mine. Same roms,radio and bootloader on both devices. Please tell me what to do to fix this "No Service". Thanks
Sounds like you need a carrier cab. There was a thread that contained all that info already as well. Here is the site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501754
It also contains the cabs to get the MMS/Internet running as well
anytime you flash a rom non specific to your carrier you will need these files to bring up service. I hope it helps you out some.
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Hi, I have my Htc6800 (formely on alltel) and I got everything (voice,internet,mms,gps)working on MetroPcs. Now I got my friend Verizon XV6800 phone to flash to MetroPcs. I programmed everything exactly same as my 6800 but with his settings and number. I can not get any voice service. It has no Signal, I get this weird icon next to the signal tree. See Picture http://img81.imageshack.us/i/noservice.png/ . I have Rom MetroPCs2.1, radio 3.42.50 on both phones, and PRL list 00068. Both running Ryan mogul Version 2.1 Light (WM 6.5) *Default Titanium. I tired to flash back original Verizon rom and I can do it but get same problem. I may add that both phones have cloned ESN's but only one works. His phone has his esn and mine has mine. Same roms,radio and bootloader on both devices. Please tell me what to do to fix this "No Service". Thanks
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Carefully read through all of the relevant threads Ryan Mogul has posted.
Many metro people have had issues and he seams to walk even the un-helpable through untill you fix the problem.
Also take advantage of the xda google tool (top brown ribbon tab named Search). You will find everything there.
Hi, thanks for replies. I have used prl from within rom i used that was made by ryam mogul and everything works on one phone but not second. I flashed back original verizon rom and I had same problem with NO SERVICE. Is maybe hardware different between these two phones. One was alltel and other (non working) is verizon. Is there anything is cdma workshop that I have not done or did do that was wrong. I super cid it per instructions and changed esn. It there option to disable voice service anywhere ? I can get wifi but no gps and voice and I get that weird icon. http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3048/noservice.png
Update. I got signal when I flashed back to original Verizon Rom with original stock radio in it. It gets and works in EVDO mode. I will try to convert to MetroPcs Roma and see what happens.