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Ok so I have been on the phone all afternoon with verizon tech support and HTC support and i have gotten no where I apologize if this problem has been solved b4 i did extensive searches with no luck so here goes.
MY Stock Unrooted Thunderbolt is losing site of the apps that have been moved to my sd card on boot. So basically i have a majority of my apps on my tbolt saved to sd card to save space on the actual phone. Some of the apps were moved manually through the applications and others were moved using ZDbox as they were installed and moved. My phone has been this way for sometime with no problem. Now about 3 days ago my phone was acting really slow and just not working properly showing signs it needed to be rebooted so i rebooted it and once done booting i went to my apps and found several of the apps missing from my app drawer as well as the shortcuts on home screens. So verizon referred me to HTC who is blaming it on ZDbox they claim zdbox corrupted the app files somehow when it moved it to the sd card and if i uninstalled that they claim the problem should be solved. However I cant remove ZDBox due to my sd card not showing up that program seems to still be on the phone its self so it should be able to uninstall it but it just locks up when i try
now i could go on and on and on with what i have done but i was hopeing someone here maybe had a similar situation or knew of a way to fix this problem. I have the SD card backed up and all the app files are showing in the location they are suppose to be in but i just cant understand what would cause his problem.
ANY help would be great and i hope im not coming off as a noob i have been troubleshooting this for several days and do consider my self to be knowledgeable in this area but i have surpassed my experience with no luck and I am here hoeping someone out there has an idea !!!!
thanks again in advance
oh ya almost forgot verizon claimed a htc rep told them its a known problem and to just keep powercycling the phone and eventually it will see the apps but i never got them to say that to me they wanted to point straight to the third party app zdbox even after i told them not all the apps were moved by that app.
I was having a similar problem with my stock vzw galaxy tab I factory reset it and reinstalled only a select applications and seemed to solve it but i dont think i have that many apps on my tbolt (i had over 150 on my tab)
sounds like you have corruption on your sd card. I would pull it out of the phone, connect it to a pc and run a scandisk on it and let it correct any errors. Then I would back it up to the pc. After this I would put it back into the phone and see if the apps show up. If not, I would hound verizon or htc for a new sd card or new phone, their choice.
A friend of mine had the same issue and the only solution was to get rid of zdbox. The issue is:
The phone is not rooted and apps that get moved to the memory card that do not allow it natively will not show up (usually after a reboot) because the original location is not available when the phone or app looks for it.
To move them properly even most apps not meant to move, you have to root.
He also wound up having to reformat the sd card.
I would say to try the suggestion above and maybe you will have luck that way but my friend had to just leave the apps that dont move to sd on the phone. He still wont root even after he sees my phone and loves the things I can do with it.
Not sure why people are obsessed with moving Apps to the SD card. I put games on there but otherwise all the rest of my 100+ Apps are on the phone and I still have 1.7gb of free phone space.
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have you tried doing an sd card rescan?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bero.sdrescan
So if you are moving all of your apps to your SD card, what are you actually using your internal storage space for? I think doing that on a phone like the Thunderbolt isn't usually worth it. Combined with the problems moving the apps can cause, there really isn't much point to it.
ok. I hope this isnt too much of a newb question...
I have looked all over to see if I could find any problems with people getting apps off of their SD card. I found a few topics and reviewed them, but I have had little luck. Most of those threads also involve root problems whereas my Evo 3d is still stock (updated to 2.3.4).
The main problem Im having (aside from linpak and various other benchmarks being dramatically reduced) is that I can not get the apps off of my SD card to show on the phone.
I performed a factory reset on the phone prior to the update as I've read several times that it is the preferred method of updating since it wipes the Dalvik (sp?) cache or whatever. I guess if you just update without wiping, it clogs up the cache or something to that effect.
Anyhow, I moved all the apps to SD. I did the wipe, then I did the OTA. Once the OTA was complete it would not recognize my apps at all. They DO NOT show up under app management as being on the SD. It is blank. It does however still show my music and pictures.
Since I swapped my 8 GeeBee card with a 16 I figured perhaps the card was corrupted somehow. So, I took my OEM Sandisk 8gb card and put that in and it wont transfer the apps that were on that either.
Ive tried to restart. Nothing. Ive unmounted the SD card, restarted without a card. Shut down. Put card back in, mounted. Still nothing .
Any help guys...and again, sorry if this is a newb question.
Use any third party apps? I believe the system installer doesn't check external storage. Try Astro free and you should be ok. Let me know what you run into
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Ooh and most benchmarks for this phone are inaccurate due to its resolution. They may have updated to account for this but that's what I've heard as of late.
It's a 1.2 factory dual core so why of super Oct'd phones and tablets you should reign supreme.
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I have a couple apps from Amazon but not many. so when I used astro I tried to find the apps and couldn't find any. Normally on my PC they are listed under Android secure...when I pull that up with astro it says directory empty..but they do show up when I have the card in my laptop...
Also, when I switched my sd out before all I had to do was copy the files and pop it in the phone. They showed up right away. Not sure why phone won't recognize them now.
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Tries an adb push?
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They shouldn't be in secure yet I'd they're typically ibstalld
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Yeah. I'm not sure what the deal is. I just ended up wupping the sd card and starting over. I have a spare sd I moved all my pics and such to so I'm not too worried about it.
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Does anyone know how to get around the limit of installing no more than 123 apps to SD? I have a Samsung Epic. I can install more than that to SD but when I reboot my phone doesn't see the apps on the SD card and it slows down and becomes unusable. I know I can move some to the phone, but I don't want to do that. I have tried different Froyo and Gingerbread roms. Is there any way to up the limit past 123? Thanks.
I can honestly say that I do not have this issue.
I have an Epic 4G Touch, and currently have 202 apps on my SD card with no issues.
I am currently running the Stock ROM.
Are you on Gingerbread? Is your phone rooted? I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps.
Running GB, 2.3.4
Rooted
I also use TB, but everything on there now is a fresh install.
Feel free to use me to help narrow down some of the possibilities for why yours isn't working...
I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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When I say everything on is a fresh install, I mean that I'm re-downloading and installing everything in very small batches, rather than using what I had backed up. After I get something down, and verify that it is working, I back it up.
The reason for this is that I kept getting my phone stuck in a bootloop, and couldn't figure out what was causing it. So I decided that it was almost as easy to re-download everything as it was to restore from backup, since I was pretty much doing it all one app at a time.
AppBrain has made that easier than I expected, though it hasn't relieved any of the tedium.
This may be an absurd question, but after you have broken the 123 barrier and rebooted, have you let your phone sit undisturbed for a while so that everything has a chance to catch up?
I know that as the amount of apps on my SD increases, the time from boot until the phone is "usable" increases as well. I've gotten around this by using Tasker to reboot the phone about fifteen minutes or so before I wake in the morning. That way, no matter if it takes two minutes or ten, it has plenty of time.
Also, have you tried completely busting the 123 barrier? Perhaps jumping straight to 150 or something would make a difference.
Googling for a brief bit only finds a couple of references to there being a limit on the number of apps, but that was supposedly resolved after Froyo.
Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Do you have the same problem using different SD cards?
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Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
cbanks3 said:
Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
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Some ROMs (like Cyanogenmod) let you move apps to the SD after installing on internal. You might try moving an app doing that and see if that breaks your barrier.
Also, try using that SD formatter for windows that Samsung or Panasonic make. A Google search will turn it up.
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I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue.
I've already tried using the card the way it came, I've formatted with Windows, I've formatted with CWM, I'm not so sure that using SD formatter will make much difference.
I have already tried moving apps to SD with the built-in app to sd functionality and it still causes problems when I get above 123 apps.
money11ez said: "I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue."
I don't have a class 10 sd card sitting around, so I can't try that. Why would the speed of the card affect how many apps can run off it?
What do you mean try a firmware update? I've tried the stock rom, and many custom froyo (ec05) and gb (ei22) roms and the problem still happens.
the faster the card the more bandwidth it has, so it can access more things at any given time.
Small question: Do you really use all of those apps?
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Epic 4G Move App to SD card limit
HI
I am experiencing the same problem with my EPIC 4G on a Gingerbread ROM. I have tried multiple times with different kernels to work with more than 150 apps on the SD card.
They all move over fine, but on the first reboot the phone fails to find them and goes in to a reproducible loop where it starts up, works very slowly for 2 minutes, then gives a haptic feedback buzz as it reboots, over and over for days.
I know the limit is between 84 and 150 apps on the SD card because I have a working backup image with 84 apps moved over. My experience has been that around the 120+ mark, it just goes very bad very quickly.
If you don't mind my asking, how do you know the limit is 123?
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Hello Folks! I've been lurking these forums for a few months now, but now it's time to join up! You guys are awesome.
I've got a question relating to the CM10 A2 ROM. Install went smoothly from a fresh SBF/Root/Flash. I got all my applications installed and moved them all to the phone. I have a problem that occurs when connecting the phone to my computer via USB. If I leave it in charge mode, no problem. Upon clicking the option to allow USB Mass Storage, I get quite a few apps that FC. The list is as follows:
sManager
AutomateIt Pro
App Protector Pro
ROM Toolbox Pro
TiBu
I get popup notifications that the apps' processes have stopped and upon going to the app drawer, the icons have been replaced with the Android Robot. The problem persists after disabling mass storage and the apps FC on attempting to launch them. The only thing to fix them seems to be rebooting. I know each of these apps have permission req's that read/write the SD card, is that what is causing the problem? Any way to fix? Thanks a bunch!
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Hello Folks! I've been lurking these forums for a few months now, but now it's time to join up! You guys are awesome.
I've got a question relating to the CM10 A2 ROM. Install went smoothly from a fresh SBF/Root/Flash. I got all my applications installed and moved them all to the phone. I have a problem that occurs when connecting the phone to my computer via USB. If I leave it in charge mode, no problem. Upon clicking the option to allow USB Mass Storage, I get quite a few apps that FC. The list is as follows:
sManager
AutomateIt Pro
App Protector Pro
ROM Toolbox Pro
TiBu
I get popup notifications that the apps' processes have stopped and upon going to the app drawer, the icons have been replaced with the Android Robot. The problem persists after disabling mass storage and the apps FC on attempting to launch them. The only thing to fix them seems to be rebooting. I know each of these apps have permission req's that read/write the SD card, is that what is causing the problem? Any way to fix? Thanks a bunch!
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Maybe because the apps are installed on your SD card and when you turn on USB storage, it cant display on your phone anymore. Are they installed on your SD card?
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Maybe because the apps are installed on your SD card and when you turn on USB storage, it cant display on your phone anymore. Are they installed on your SD card?
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That was the first thing I checked and unfortunately they aren't installed on the SD. I moved all my apps to the phone.
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That was the first thing I checked and unfortunately they aren't installed on the SD. I moved all my apps to the phone.
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I cant think of any other reason why they would stop working in USB mode. Maybe there are certain things they use that are on the SD Card and not necessarily the app itself. It does warn you that some apps will not work when you select USB mode.
IMHO I think it has something to do with the new SD card directory. I've used almost all the ROMs for the x2 including the cm7 and cm9. This seems to only occur with cm10.
Edit: I noticed some of these apps have folders located on the internal SD. I doubt that has changed across ROM's, any idea why it would change with this one?
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Alright. So it appears that the problem is caused by a new way the play store distributes paid apps to JB. From reading around in various sites, these apps are sent to the "app-asec" folder as .asec files instead of .apk. When connecting to USB, CM10 seems to go through some internal trouble (i.e. lots of screen flickering/redrawing and sometimes it seems to soft reboot). My theory is that how the play store is installing is causing the issues app developers are seeing. The app is attempting to start before the app-asec folder is mounted, causing FC's.
Edit: Other users have reported a workaround that if you restore the apps with TiBu or something similar it places the actual .apk file in the correct directory. The issue only seems to affect paid apps installed by the play store.
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Sorry to keep posting on my own thread, but I've found a workaround. This also seems to have fixed the launcher redraws and screen flickering I mentioned above.
Navigate to the /data/app-sec folder
Make note of all the apps installed there as .asec files.
Using your backup program of choice (I used TiBu for the majority and ROM Toolbox so I could backup TiBu), backup all the apps you found.
Uninstall the previously mentioned apps.
Restore using the same backup program(s).
Go back to the /data/app-sec folder and verify that all the files are gone.
Go to /data/app folder and you should see the .apk's from the restored apps.
Hope this helps someone else!
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Good to see you figured it out and also, good find. I noticed plugging in my device as USB and having it "soft reboot". Lately I haven't had the issue happen again. Your theory makes sense now since there is one app in that location and it is a theme I was using but lately, have not been. Ill move it as you suggested.
Sooooooo...
I recently updated my i9300 to foxhound 0.1, which is android 4.2.2.
It works fine and all BUT sometimes when installing apps or updating them they get installed to sd card automatically!
I did some googling, without much luck though since it seems i'm the only one interested in keeping my apps on the internal storage rather than the micro sd.
I had the doubt this was either the fault of apps like
App2sd/Link2sd so i uninstalled them (i really never actually used them), but i doubt it was their making...
What happened is with this new 4.2.2 now i am able to actually move apps to sd card (while on any other rom i dont even recall being able to) and this is cool, but i don't need it. Problem is my phone WANTS to.
So how can i change the default installation directory before i choose to throw my phone against the wall?:banghead:
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killbubble said:
Sooooooo...
I recently updated my i9300 to foxhound 0.1, which is android 4.2.2.
It works fine and all BUT sometimes when installing apps or updating them they get installed to sd card automatically!
I did some googling, without much luck though since it seems i'm the only one interested in keeping my apps on the internal storage rather than the micro sd.
I had the doubt this was either the fault of apps like
App2sd/Link2sd so i uninstalled them (i really never actually used them), but i doubt it was their making...
What happened is with this new 4.2.2 now i am able to actually move apps to sd card (while on any other rom i dont even recall being able to) and this is cool, but i don't need it. Problem is my phone WANTS to.
So how can i change the default installation directory before i choose to throw my phone against the wall?:banghead:
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About what sd are you talking? Internal sd which is actually the internal memory or external sd which is your micro sd?
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He is talking about them going to the micro SD card.
Exactly external sd. They just go there themselvesn it doesn't occur with all apps, so i'm guessing maybe the devs put some preferences in the installation properties? I think i recall reading about android devs being able to do this somewhere in their projects.....
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Try asking in the foxhound threads.