I know every dev is hard at work on trying to get the kernel to work with our phones. Im just wondering if we are all pissing in the wind or is there really hope that we could see the kernel at some point?
Thanks
Have faith in our devs. They ve done all they've done, just leave them to do what they want.
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what's good about this kernel ?
What does this new kernel do? allow us to OC higher? Sorry for the noobie question
Android 1.6/2.0/2.1 required a kernel that was based off of the 2.6.29 linux kernel, 2.2 requires 2.6.32. That's one of the main hold ups for our 2.2 development.
We'll likely run into the same problem when 3.0 is released since it'll likely require a newer kernel as well.
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Android 1.6/2.0/2.1 required a kernel that was based off of the 2.6.29 linux kernel, 2.2 requires 2.6.32.
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My current Froyo ROM has a .29 kernel.
Yeah how are we successfully running Froyo on 2.6.29 if 2.6.32 is required?
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He probably misspoke. By my understanding, Froyo comes with the 2.6.32 kernel and it would ease development of the 2.2-based ROMs if they could use the proper kernel with them.
You're using a ROM based on Froyo yet still using the 2.6.29 kernel, so it's not working as well as it could be. I believe this also affected all the things that required "fixing" in the 2.2-based ROMs (5MP camera, MMS, ...) which if they were actually able to use the real 2.2 kernel, they might not have had to find workarounds.
I could be mistaken about some of this, please don't flame me.
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He probably misspoke. By my understanding, Froyo comes with the 2.6.32 kernel and it would ease development of the 2.2-based ROMs if they could use the proper kernel with them.
You're using a ROM based on Froyo yet still using the 2.6.29 kernel, so it's not working as well as it could be. I believe this also affected all the things that required "fixing" in the 2.2-based ROMs (5MP camera, MMS, ...) which if they were actually able to use the real 2.2 kernel, they might not have had to find workarounds.
I could be mistaken about some of this, please don't flame me.
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for the record ,, the big secret about the camera workin is using the libs from a 2.1 rom haha
The Kernel
Good information, is it at all possible to build a 2.6.32 kernel for the eris?
Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't we need a new vendor tree for 2.6.32
^ I don't think so.
And yeah the froyo kernel would be nice... would really speed up development for roms since it would basically fix the issues. If we'd had a froyo kernel from the beginning for example the camera would have worked immediately.
possibly this?
found this looking for a possible Acess Point Wifi tether kernel
while looking for eris kernels I checked out this guy's page... and seems he has a file for the heroc (eris) that is .32... says it's modified from another phone, supersonic, wasn't that the incredible codename?
hxxp://github.com/darchstar
Darchstar is a hero dev, his kernels won't work with ours I wish though.
psilocybenine said:
found this looking for a possible Acess Point Wifi tether kernel
while looking for eris kernels I checked out this guy's page... and seems he has a file for the heroc (eris) that is .32... says it's modified from another phone, supersonic, wasn't that the incredible codename?
hxxp://github.com/darchstar
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Isn't the Eris desirec?
Yes it is. Those won't work with our phone.
They are close, but not close enough.
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FunkyFender said:
We'll likely run into the same problem when 3.0 is released since it'll likely require a newer kernel as well.
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this made me lol. Do you actually believe that there is any chance in hell for the eris to get gingerbread. not in a million years... unless they dumb it down majorly to be put on eris it wont happen
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this made me lol. Do you actually believe that there is any chance in hell for the eris to get gingerbread. not in a million years... unless they dumb it down majorly to be put on eris it wont happen
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Thats what they said about Froyo
The Eris and Hero are a LOT closer alike than you might think and you're more familiar with darchstar's work than you realize. Ever wonder why many Eris ROMs say "Sprint"initially?
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Hello! I am new to this forum. I have a Samsung Vibrant (SGH-T959), which I successfully upgraded to Froyo.UVKA6. How do I upgrade further, to Gingerbread (Android 2.3)? I tried to Root my phone using that one-click rooting program, but I guess I was doing something wrong, and it didn't work (three times). Thank you for your response.
No official 2.3 yet
and no stable 2.3 (?) for normal daily use yet
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No official 2.3 yet
and no stable 2.3 (?) for normal daily use yet
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Actually there is. Go to the development and find cm7. Im using it right now, and its crazy fast. There is another gb rom in the dev section also. The only thing that is not working is gps.
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hitman818 said:
Actually there is. Go to the development and find cm7. Im using it right now, and its crazy fast. There is another gb rom in the dev section also. The only thing that is not working is gps.
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he said "no official 2.3" CM7 isn't official but i suggest the OP tries out CM7 its fast, a few bugs, that will be fixed by the dev team, but besides that... its great!
Since there was a samsung gingerbread leak for i9000 a few days ago. I imagine we will see a vibrant leak soon.
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Actually there is. Go to the development and find cm7. Im using it right now, and its crazy fast. There is another gb rom in the dev section also. The only thing that is not working is gps.
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Thank you for replying to my post! I'm not sure how to get what you suggested. Would you please give me step-by-step instructions? (I am relatively new to this whole thing.)
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Thank you for replying to my post! I'm not sure how to get what you suggested. Would you please give me step-by-step instructions? (I am relatively new to this whole thing.)
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With All due respect, perhaps you should just stick to 2.2 for now. While CM7 is a semi-viable option it is a bit more complex than flashing many of the more "standard" 2.2 roms.
Be patient, there are many custom roms you could look into that will surely boost your phones potential greatly while you wait for 2.3 builds to grow and develop.
Try out Bionix Version 1.3 (I believe) or Trigger 2.7. Those are my personal favorites. Right Now I am using a 2.2.1 Rom called Sweet Honey, which is great, but I haven't had enough time with it to give a proper judgment.
Look at the more stable options first, get used to things, learn how to use Odin, about download mode, the different recoveries, even about jigs (if needed); before you dive head first into this cesspool of amazing roms, kernels, themes and talented developers. There's a lot of options that are far less likely to brick your phone.
This thread is a good way to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938875
reorampage said:
With All due respect, perhaps you should just stick to 2.2 for now. While CM7 is a semi-viable option it is a bit more complex than flashing many of the more "standard" 2.2 roms.
Be patient, there are many custom roms you could look into that will surely boost your phones potential greatly while you wait for 2.3 builds to grow and develop.
Try out Bionix Version 1.3 (I believe) or Trigger 2.7. Those are my personal favorites. Right Now I am using a 2.2.1 Rom called Sweet Honey, which is great, but I haven't had enough time with it to give a proper judgment.
Look at the more stable options first, get used to things, learn how to use Odin, about download mode, the different recoveries, even about jigs (if needed); before you dive head first into this cesspool of amazing roms, kernels, themes and talented developers. There's a lot of options that are far less likely to brick your phone.
This thread is a good way to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938875
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I'm using Sweet Honey, too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973208&page=50
hitman818 said:
Actually there is. Go to the development and find cm7. Im using it right now, and its crazy fast. There is another gb rom in the dev section also. The only thing that is not working is gps.
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TV-out is not working on this build either which sucks because wiimote works. just cannot seem to get both worlds working for some classic gameplay without toting a frign PC(laptops included) around.
I have been reading the threads on this forum, for awhile but wondering why there hasn't been kernel releases based on 2.6.32(2.2) or 2.6.35(2.3). Wouldn't it be easier to just port the drivers directly to the new kernels and the work out the features instead of working on the features with the old kernel and try to port them again later?
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
Update: I did skim read a little
Yes I'm with you now, its much better for updated Linux kernels for better compatibility and performance, so I agree, why not devs???
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The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
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Im talking about the linux kernel that the rom is running on, not the baseband for the rom. But thanks for the reply anyways
seajamiet said:
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
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He's talking about the android kernels, not the basebands
but a wild guess would be maybe the newer kernels aren't compatible with SE's basebands?
maybe but if they could port the 2.3 rom to the current basebands, why can't they port the baseband to the kernel? hopefully one of the devs can answer this.
They want to start with something that works. Once SE's kernel will be fully modified and working, then they can move on. Much better way forward than to jump in with a totally new kernel version.
Hiya! Okay, I'm quite experienced with Android now, and I know this is a noobs question, and possibly frowned upon, but I was wondering what the best Kernel and ROM for my X10 is?
I previously used an X8 with CM7 (2.3.4) v.138 HACKDROID, and I pretty much want the same awesomeness on my X10 but better. There are a load here, and the Master Thread doesn't have any recommendations like the X8 Master Thread (which recommends HACKDROID).
I just need a few pointers and I won't post a noob question again. This is all I pretty much need to know.
Thanks
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If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
if you want a fast, reliable rom then j's cm7 j004 with doomlord's custom kernel can't be beat. until se release sources for gingerbread. this is the best custom setup around... in my opinion...
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Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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When will they release sources?
kantk20111 said:
When will they release sources?
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Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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Frosty666 said:
Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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In which part of GPL says that?
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When will they release sources?
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I'd like to know why they are holding them back....
SE does so much slimy stuff
Hzu said:
In which part of GPL says that?
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As I stated, I'm no expert, in fact, I could even be completely incorrect. I have however read other peoples responses to similar questions about SE releasing their kernel sources. They state that the Linux kernel sources, which are licenced under the GPL, must be disclosed within a certain period of time, which I believe to be 15 days.
Apologies for my somewhat limited knowledge about such licenses.
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No worries, I just want a confirmation. I've never heard such rule in GPL(confuses me a lot since there are variants of GPL out there).
I prefer this ROM, I'm still playing around with different one's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192326
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May I ask a noob question what difference does different kernals actually do
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Frosty666 said:
If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Even the new Achotjan CM7 released... Just checked it now. Looks pretty awesome. I'd say try ZMOD one or The Achotjan CM7 if you are a Cynogen fan. I was using Wolf's 2.3.3 for almost two weeks now and I'd say thats the best if you dont want to use Cynogen ROM... Cheers
I'm going to give Wolf's a shot, but I really enjoyed ZMOD's, but it could be better. The HTC Mod keyboard doesn't work on it sadly. I've just resorted to using thumb keyboard, its pretty good actually
Went back to ZMOD. It's amazing. Plus, the new kernels are making it a better experience now. Its running like lightning now. And the battery has improved too. Doomlords kernel is amazing
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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No you don't have to update your kernel, and no you don't have to wipe anything. The custom kernel is optional. I'm using stock kernel on 4.0.2.1 and its extremely snappy. I'm going to update to 4.0.3 tonight.
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I'm running Wolf's 4.0.3 with Stock Kernel and Undervolt Addon, running very smoothly. Juice plotter tells me 51 hours of battery after calibration and a two days running. Best ROM I've used!
I know this thread is old , but since now there are new kernels to choose from, there are certainly new answers for this thread...
So, what's the best ROM / kernel combo for you guys?
Hey guys, I've been looking at updating my kernel if it was necessary.
Basically, here's my current information about my phone:
Kernel version: 2.6.32.39-MB860-CM7-g54722f1 [email protected]#4
Mod version: CyanogenMod-7.1.0.Ba2tF-Olympus
I'm would like to update the Kernel on my phone. I wasn't sure if I could just pick up any Kernel out there for the Atrix 4G. I wasn't sure if it was dependent on what Mod version you were running etc.
If someone can let me know it's ok to pick up any kernel that would work for atrix 4g or if it was dependent on the mod version and suggest any kernel that has worked for you and any others that you recommend not using.
I have updated roms but restored back because it once in a while during the day and sometimes in use would reboot...some people that I have read on the forum indicated to update the kernel would/might resolve the issue. So your suggestions and recommendation is highly appreciated. Thank you.
You can flash any of the kernels developed for CM7.
I would recommend any of fauxs kernels depending on whether or not you use OC. He has kernels ranging from 1Ghz to 1.45Ghz. All of the have been stable for me with good battery life.
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Honestly ur best bet would be just to update to the newest cm7 nightley your on a really old version and kissing out on some good updates the kernel that vo.es with it is really nice or at least upgrade to the rc1 but i will also agree with the faux kernels i use the 1.45 overclock with out ant issues and live it
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Pbwizkid said:
Honestly ur best bet would be just to update to the newest cm7 nightley your on a really old version and kissing out on some good updates the kernel that vo.es with it is really nice or at least upgrade to the rc1 but i will also agree with the faux kernels i use the 1.45 overclock with out ant issues and live it
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Agreed. Get off Ba2tF. It's not any more stable than the release candidates, in fact it is probably significantly less so. Also, tons of important updates have been made to the kernel and just about everything else.
http://get.cm/?device=olympus
Any ideas on cm 10.1 or are we waiting till the next android update?
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Honestly, I'v been wondering the same thing. But considering that there are only the slightest hints of it on the CM forums and that there's not even a prototype in the nightlies, I'm going to say there's going to be some more wait time. If you want a good combination on kernel and rom to use in the meantime, though, the unsecure kernel and the UKB rom are very nice.
xpent said:
Honestly, I'v been wondering the same thing. But considering that there are only the slightest hints of it on the CM forums and that there's not even a prototype in the nightlies, I'm going to say there's going to be some more wait time. If you want a good combination on kernel and rom to use in the meantime, though, the unsecure kernel and the UKB rom are very nice.
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I love UKB but I couldn't get it Rio stay working when I was running it.
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Radio Interface Layer
CyanogenMod is based on the stock AOSP roms directly from google. In order to have functionality of these roms 3 things are needed. First is the unlocked bootloader which is achieved using the JCase hack. The second is the kernel source which was kindly provided by HTC. The final thing needed is access to the Radio Interface Layer or RIL. Basically this is the software or drivers that allows android to speak to the radio of the phone. These generally are not released to the public and have to be hacked out of a ROM or made from scratch. This is currently not available for the DNA and will be difficult to get as it is the first phone using this hardware combination. It is being worked on by devs but no ETA has been given yet. Until we get this, the only roms we see will be based on the stock sense rom