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I know every dev is hard at work on trying to get the kernel to work with our phones. Im just wondering if we are all pissing in the wind or is there really hope that we could see the kernel at some point?
Thanks
Have faith in our devs. They ve done all they've done, just leave them to do what they want.
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what's good about this kernel ?
What does this new kernel do? allow us to OC higher? Sorry for the noobie question
Android 1.6/2.0/2.1 required a kernel that was based off of the 2.6.29 linux kernel, 2.2 requires 2.6.32. That's one of the main hold ups for our 2.2 development.
We'll likely run into the same problem when 3.0 is released since it'll likely require a newer kernel as well.
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Android 1.6/2.0/2.1 required a kernel that was based off of the 2.6.29 linux kernel, 2.2 requires 2.6.32.
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My current Froyo ROM has a .29 kernel.
Yeah how are we successfully running Froyo on 2.6.29 if 2.6.32 is required?
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He probably misspoke. By my understanding, Froyo comes with the 2.6.32 kernel and it would ease development of the 2.2-based ROMs if they could use the proper kernel with them.
You're using a ROM based on Froyo yet still using the 2.6.29 kernel, so it's not working as well as it could be. I believe this also affected all the things that required "fixing" in the 2.2-based ROMs (5MP camera, MMS, ...) which if they were actually able to use the real 2.2 kernel, they might not have had to find workarounds.
I could be mistaken about some of this, please don't flame me.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
He probably misspoke. By my understanding, Froyo comes with the 2.6.32 kernel and it would ease development of the 2.2-based ROMs if they could use the proper kernel with them.
You're using a ROM based on Froyo yet still using the 2.6.29 kernel, so it's not working as well as it could be. I believe this also affected all the things that required "fixing" in the 2.2-based ROMs (5MP camera, MMS, ...) which if they were actually able to use the real 2.2 kernel, they might not have had to find workarounds.
I could be mistaken about some of this, please don't flame me.
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for the record ,, the big secret about the camera workin is using the libs from a 2.1 rom haha
The Kernel
Good information, is it at all possible to build a 2.6.32 kernel for the eris?
Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't we need a new vendor tree for 2.6.32
^ I don't think so.
And yeah the froyo kernel would be nice... would really speed up development for roms since it would basically fix the issues. If we'd had a froyo kernel from the beginning for example the camera would have worked immediately.
possibly this?
found this looking for a possible Acess Point Wifi tether kernel
while looking for eris kernels I checked out this guy's page... and seems he has a file for the heroc (eris) that is .32... says it's modified from another phone, supersonic, wasn't that the incredible codename?
hxxp://github.com/darchstar
Darchstar is a hero dev, his kernels won't work with ours I wish though.
psilocybenine said:
found this looking for a possible Acess Point Wifi tether kernel
while looking for eris kernels I checked out this guy's page... and seems he has a file for the heroc (eris) that is .32... says it's modified from another phone, supersonic, wasn't that the incredible codename?
hxxp://github.com/darchstar
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Isn't the Eris desirec?
Yes it is. Those won't work with our phone.
They are close, but not close enough.
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We'll likely run into the same problem when 3.0 is released since it'll likely require a newer kernel as well.
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this made me lol. Do you actually believe that there is any chance in hell for the eris to get gingerbread. not in a million years... unless they dumb it down majorly to be put on eris it wont happen
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this made me lol. Do you actually believe that there is any chance in hell for the eris to get gingerbread. not in a million years... unless they dumb it down majorly to be put on eris it wont happen
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Thats what they said about Froyo
The Eris and Hero are a LOT closer alike than you might think and you're more familiar with darchstar's work than you realize. Ever wonder why many Eris ROMs say "Sprint"initially?
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im seeing atleast 2 ginger roms being released every day......whats the point of ppl just going to crazy development mode and releasing a variant of stock ginger rom...
but the point is clearly that most of us will use only miks cm7 or andy's cm7 or noejn's or ciaox(almost forgot xD) along with franco's kernel
I should also add, what's up with billions new threads asking/requesting/announcing for the same things again and again and again. It's becoming tiresome tracking the usefull info around here
Full Ack, it's better to have some devs helping the 2-4 Maindev's and having 2-4 very stable Roms and Kernels instead of having 1000 of Roms and Kernels which are crap.
These 2-4 Roms and 1-2 Kernels (or 2-4) are very stable, and People can change the Launcher if they dont like the Preinstalled Stuff.
Sorry, that are just my 2 Cents.
Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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lekhwani said:
Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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Well said
And where is the Sense in having 20+ Roms, where are the differences just minimal ? (Like Cosmetic : Launcher etc).
Imho : Senseless
Newbies are loosing the oversight, if there is too much. Which goes to Noob Questions like : Which Rom ist the Best, my Rom crashed why ? etc blahblah. Aka a flood of Stuff, many dont like.
Again, i dont have nothing against new Devs....but as in Companies or OS-Projects : Why dont bundle the Power of them into just some Projects (If the Maindevs likes to have help).
i think that mik and andy should work toghether on a custom rom. imagine that
lekhwani said:
Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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The difference is that most of those 20 froyo roms, each one was making a step further into p500 custom rom making. Development was growing back then. Just a few of the old...void/devoid, megatron, LOL, nessy, Light etc. Today custom development has come to a peak. If someone can make something new or different from what our current devs can do then bring it on. But all I can see is clones nothing more
Everything is goin to die down in few days, and only the best shall survive. I say its a fair competition and best will survive.
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A few weeks ago everyone was complaining that there are too few ginger ROMs.
Now you don't like it?
Yeah there must be development of gb Roms as this will lead to a great rom.
Proud owner of lg optimus one
mprou said:
The difference is that most of those 20 froyo roms, each one was making a step further into p500 custom rom making. Development was growing back then. Just a few of the old...void/devoid, megatron, LOL, nessy, Light etc. Today custom development has come to a peak. If someone can make something new or different from what our current devs can do then bring it on. But all I can see is clones nothing more
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Yes!! the problem lies in clones being made, and no new ideas or innovations...
I support new ROMS being developed, but it only makes sense if it brings something new and exciting with it, after all ROM devs can have the top kernels out here in it and focus on customizing and speeding up there roms, while adding new features and ideas. Its just a waste of time and effort if it just uses gimmicky themes and mods
This thread is true. It will never be better than mik and andy gb rom anyway
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shotgun32 said:
This thread is true. It will never be better than mik and andy gb rom anyway
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So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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Nope franco kernel will be nt buggiest ever..bcoz its the best..
-1 for u
Roqu3 said:
So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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yup, -1 for you too haha
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So that means nobody should make another one? or another kernel? everyone must go to andy's thread or franco's thread to write"yay!" "wow!"?
Personal opinion: mik's great but buggy for daily use, andy´s buggy and franco kernel is the buggiest ever
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well you could also write "yeehaa!" "wooh00" "bring it daddy" and other lovely stuff
Besides joking...we don't need clones.
If you can make something new (i'm not saying better), something different or innovative, for example franco has customized the kernel, ciaox made openscript, mik ported CM etc etc then we will all be very glad to have it.
Thats why is called "Development". Unfortunately not anyone can do it. So let those who know how to do it, to do it properly.
Haha cool. I wish I could be of some help
lekhwani said:
Its just started and you are telling it to stop. We wont stop until number crosses the froyo roms. I believe we have more than 20 froyo roms. So until its 20, dont complain.
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obviously most of us are using andy's or mik_os GB rom
Hiya! Okay, I'm quite experienced with Android now, and I know this is a noobs question, and possibly frowned upon, but I was wondering what the best Kernel and ROM for my X10 is?
I previously used an X8 with CM7 (2.3.4) v.138 HACKDROID, and I pretty much want the same awesomeness on my X10 but better. There are a load here, and the Master Thread doesn't have any recommendations like the X8 Master Thread (which recommends HACKDROID).
I just need a few pointers and I won't post a noob question again. This is all I pretty much need to know.
Thanks
DM
If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
if you want a fast, reliable rom then j's cm7 j004 with doomlord's custom kernel can't be beat. until se release sources for gingerbread. this is the best custom setup around... in my opinion...
Delusphere said:
Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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When will they release sources?
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When will they release sources?
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Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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Frosty666 said:
Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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In which part of GPL says that?
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When will they release sources?
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I'd like to know why they are holding them back....
SE does so much slimy stuff
Hzu said:
In which part of GPL says that?
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As I stated, I'm no expert, in fact, I could even be completely incorrect. I have however read other peoples responses to similar questions about SE releasing their kernel sources. They state that the Linux kernel sources, which are licenced under the GPL, must be disclosed within a certain period of time, which I believe to be 15 days.
Apologies for my somewhat limited knowledge about such licenses.
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No worries, I just want a confirmation. I've never heard such rule in GPL(confuses me a lot since there are variants of GPL out there).
I prefer this ROM, I'm still playing around with different one's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192326
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May I ask a noob question what difference does different kernals actually do
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Frosty666 said:
If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Even the new Achotjan CM7 released... Just checked it now. Looks pretty awesome. I'd say try ZMOD one or The Achotjan CM7 if you are a Cynogen fan. I was using Wolf's 2.3.3 for almost two weeks now and I'd say thats the best if you dont want to use Cynogen ROM... Cheers
I'm going to give Wolf's a shot, but I really enjoyed ZMOD's, but it could be better. The HTC Mod keyboard doesn't work on it sadly. I've just resorted to using thumb keyboard, its pretty good actually
Went back to ZMOD. It's amazing. Plus, the new kernels are making it a better experience now. Its running like lightning now. And the battery has improved too. Doomlords kernel is amazing
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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No you don't have to update your kernel, and no you don't have to wipe anything. The custom kernel is optional. I'm using stock kernel on 4.0.2.1 and its extremely snappy. I'm going to update to 4.0.3 tonight.
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I'm running Wolf's 4.0.3 with Stock Kernel and Undervolt Addon, running very smoothly. Juice plotter tells me 51 hours of battery after calibration and a two days running. Best ROM I've used!
I know this thread is old , but since now there are new kernels to choose from, there are certainly new answers for this thread...
So, what's the best ROM / kernel combo for you guys?
So, these new Kernels. I've waited with installing them until they were more finished and now I was wondering how people think they are compared to the stock one.
Do they contain the same features and do all of them work?
Are they faster?
Are they stable?
Good things, bad things about upgrading?
Was thinking these things would be nice to know for everybody thinking of switching
I guess you should try one out to find out. Ofcourse they are much faster, lighter and efficient than the stock kernel. Since we are using Gingerbread now mostly, these kernels provide better support for them.
If they weren't any different from the stock kernels...why do you think devs would make them? Hope you get the message.
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I guess you should try one out to find out. Ofcourse they are much faster, lighter and efficient than the stock kernel. Since we are using Gingerbread now mostly, these kernels provide better support for them.
If they weren't any different from the stock kernels...why do you think devs would make them? Hope you get the message.
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I get the message alright, but since you have a mini and therefore have not tried the x10 mini pro kernels (which are all still quite new), it's not a fact that they are faster, lighter, more efficient or provide better support for Gingerbread.
That's why I asked for people who have tried the x10 mini pro kernels about their experiences with them. I could try it myself, but since that voids the guaranty please respect my wishes to do some research first.
one word, yes. they are better, faster, and smoother. worth doing.
I will put it this way, we had various modules to load. they are now in the kernel itself.
hardware communication is improved, and have a speed difference (very slightly i guess).
Thats all maybe.
i preffer this for mini pro phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256095&page=41
i use it too.. and my phone is like 40-50% faster with custom rom
custom kernel is a lot faster than stock kernel, very responsive.
about the stability is depends, the custom kernel is kind new to all of us and the dev is still developing their custom kernel, so bugs is still expected unless they mentioned it final release.
so the dev also encourage us to test the custom kernel, so if we found bugs and report it back, it will be contributions to the dev to make a better and bugs free kernel
Ive used both and they are great
Zombiepanic fixes the touch bug with the statusbar and stuff
D4kernel is also great but no more updates due to him leaving
Both are very stable. Havent had a random reboot and used D4's since release so ive had a long time of testing
Hope this helped
X10man
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wich is the best costum kernel for x10 mini pro??
luy991 said:
wich is the best costum kernel for x10 mini pro??
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Zombiepanic!!
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Zombiepanic!!
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+1 the best
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Use zombiepanic, standard version.. (oc version has somes bug) standard version Is too fast and stable.. !
Just curious how much this will actually effect ROM development? I know we have a few custom kernels which make some things better and some worse. So having source I assume will make a more solid kernel. Is it different between ICS and JB?
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Just curious how much this will actually effect ROM development? I know we have a few custom kernels which make some things better and some worse. So having source I assume will make a more solid kernel. Is it different between ICS and JB?
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New kernels, cm9 and cm10 will be loads less buggy, the list goes on for a while
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Is there any way you can be a bit more specific or tell me more about it?
hello, i ve used kernel coolZ, i m pleased about it!
herousr said:
Is there any way you can be a bit more specific or tell me more about it?
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Without source, a kernel creator can use their skills to cobble together a kernel, but it's next to impossible. The current crop of CDMA kernels were created by taking the GSM source code and adjusting it. Some were more successful than others. Now that the CDMA source had dropped, kernel makers can use it as a foundation to add features.
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