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I have been reading the threads on this forum, for awhile but wondering why there hasn't been kernel releases based on 2.6.32(2.2) or 2.6.35(2.3). Wouldn't it be easier to just port the drivers directly to the new kernels and the work out the features instead of working on the features with the old kernel and try to port them again later?
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
Update: I did skim read a little
Yes I'm with you now, its much better for updated Linux kernels for better compatibility and performance, so I agree, why not devs???
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seajamiet said:
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
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Im talking about the linux kernel that the rom is running on, not the baseband for the rom. But thanks for the reply anyways
seajamiet said:
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
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He's talking about the android kernels, not the basebands
but a wild guess would be maybe the newer kernels aren't compatible with SE's basebands?
maybe but if they could port the 2.3 rom to the current basebands, why can't they port the baseband to the kernel? hopefully one of the devs can answer this.
They want to start with something that works. Once SE's kernel will be fully modified and working, then they can move on. Much better way forward than to jump in with a totally new kernel version.
Demonizing Kernelz​
These are the first Kernels I have ever built so go easy on me. There are two versions AOSP GB and AOSP ICS. Currently there is no major modifications, as I get more experience I will start posting change logs and upload source code. For now we will keep all discussion in the thread. Please report any problems, or concerns. As of now I will only be uploading the zImage.
GB Beta: GB KERNEL
ICS Sense Beta: See Scroslers ROM ICS Kernel
ICS AOSP ALPHA: ALPHA
ICS ALPHA PROBLEMS: Well as with all alpha status kernels, I would not recommend daily use. Its a work in progress! Stay Posted for updates.
NO DATA
NO WIFI
NO ADB
NO USB MOUNTING
Awesome dude, you're the first to have an AOSP kernel for us. To bad we don't have a rom for it, but hey, progress is progress
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yeah been up all night messing with it and finally got it to compile. Well right now I'm working on porting an ICS ROM so we shall see how it goes.
Hit up droid vicious, he has an MIUI port he could test with
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You'll be thanking me when you have ICS on your Rezound.
Personally can't wait to see some AOSP on this phone.
This is awesome. I have been getting discouraged by not having any updates on AOSP progress lately.
Is it an ICS kernel or gingerbread?
I would be ecstatic with a CM7 port right now.
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Ok so iI built a KANG of the Tiamat AOSP Kernel for the Rezound. I am taking no credit. All credit goes to TIAMAT.
I am not sure this works, again this is AOSP so it has to be tested with an AOSP Port. If anyone has one please contact me for testing.
Thank You
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Can I get a link? I have several aosp ports in the works
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A link would be nice, if you believe its presentable in your opinion
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please post
please! post that stuff sos we can get some NON-Sense roms flowing!!!
I have been working on my own CM7 port so tonight I'll throw this in and see what happens
Been waiting for an AOSP kernel. I have been trying to compile my own but still don't know what I'm doing yet...
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I have been working on my own CM7 port so tonight I'll throw this in and see what happens
Been waiting for an AOSP kernel. I have been trying to compile my own but still don't know what I'm doing yet...
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If anyone has an AOSP, CM7 or (preferably) a CM9 ROM built and wants a tester for the ROM/kernel combination send me a PM with the info/links.
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If anyone has an AOSP, CM7 or (preferably) a CM9 ROM built and wants a tester for the ROM/kernel combination send me a PM with the info/links.
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I, like countless others, would also be willing to test, I'm sure.... Thanks for all the work!
FYI The only changes that need to be made for aosp are a few things for the touchscreen and to use the aosp WiFi module instead of htcs. Theres nothing that that should have prevented someone from booting aosp with the stock kernel... They just wouldn't have touch initially, which as a five minute fix. I also wouldn't use this kernel as the base for an aosp build since its highly modified and it will be difficult to separate kernel issues from ROM issues. I'll build a completely stock kernel with just the aosp changes later, if that's what's been holding everyone up.
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I just want an aosp rom idc who makes the kernel!
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I check 20 times a day for an aosp Rom. Thanks Chad!!
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FYI The only changes that need to be made for aosp are a few things for the touchscreen and to use the aosp WiFi module instead of htcs. Theres nothing that that should have prevented someone from booting aosp with the stock kernel... They just wouldn't have touch initially, which as a five minute fix. I also wouldn't use this kernel as the base for an aosp build since its highly modified and it will be difficult to separate kernel issues from ROM issues. I'll build a completely stock kernel with just the aosp changes later, if that's what's been holding everyone up.
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Awesome.
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FYI The only changes that need to be made for aosp are a few things for the touchscreen and to use the aosp WiFi module instead of htcs. Theres nothing that that should have prevented someone from booting aosp with the stock kernel... They just wouldn't have touch initially, which as a five minute fix. I also wouldn't use this kernel as the base for an aosp build since its highly modified and it will be difficult to separate kernel issues from ROM issues. I'll build a completely stock kernel with just the aosp changes later, if that's what's been holding everyone up.
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Got this phone JUST YESTERDAY in the hopes that AOSP would follow shortly, so all of this news is going to give me an Androrgasm, srsly
chad0989 said:
FYI The only changes that need to be made for aosp are a few things for the touchscreen and to use the aosp WiFi module instead of htcs. Theres nothing that that should have prevented someone from booting aosp with the stock kernel... They just wouldn't have touch initially, which as a five minute fix. I also wouldn't use this kernel as the base for an aosp build since its highly modified and it will be difficult to separate kernel issues from ROM issues. I'll build a completely stock kernel with just the aosp changes later, if that's what's been holding everyone up.
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From the changes I made, it looked to me as if it was completely stock with AOSP changes. Tiamat hasn't made this official so there is very few or no modifications. But man I wish I would of asked! This thing was a pain!
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From the changes I made, it looked to me as if it was completely stock with AOSP changes. Tiamat hasn't made this official so there is very few or no modifications. But man I wish I would of asked! This thing was a pain!
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Where did you pull the source from? You said Tiamat so I assumed you used their 8x60 Tiamat source as the base.
http://git.tiamat-dev.com/8x60/htc-kernel-msm8x60/
If you used the vigor branch it looks like they haven't done anything at all to it yet so it may just be fine. But in that case I would remove Tiamat kang from the title since you didn't kang anything from them if you made all the changes yourself... Haha.
Edit, I see where you pulled from, it looks like they started a new branch:
http://git.tiamat-dev.com/8x60/tiamat-kernel
It may or may not work, it doesn't look like they've made too many changes to it but its using the ruby kernel as the base with vigor files added to it, I still say it would be best to use the kernel straight from htc with just the changes for AOSP added.
Well, all the Sense 4 ROMs drain my battery like its nobody's business, and personally I really don't seem to like Sense anymore. I know that newtoroot came out with an AOSP rom awhile back in like February, but has anyone been working on one since? And I know people "claim" to have AOSP roms but all of them are still using sense's SystemUI, so im looking for a FULL AOSP rom. thanks to anyone who can help.
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Well, all the Sense 4 ROMs drain my battery like its nobody's business, and personally I really don't seem to like Sense anymore. I know that newtoroot came out with an AOSP rom awhile back in like February, but has anyone been working on one since? And I know people "claim" to have AOSP roms but all of them are still using sense's SystemUI, so im looking for a FULL AOSP rom. thanks to anyone who can help.
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Since this is a pretty touchy subject... I'll handle it.
We do not have full functioning AOSP roms. The rezound has very difficult tech to reverse engineer. The AOSP roms that do exist all have no data, text, or call capability. Not even wifi. A few have tried to work on getting AOSP over but either stopped in the hopes that the ICS OTA stuff will help or they just dumped the rezound completely. I just hope you don't get flamed.
What hurts the rezound, was that everyone was expecting to get it and then immediately switch to ICS so the gingerbread development lacked a lot. And leaks don't really help us at all as far as ICS goes. Here we are 8 months after the debut of ICS and we are still left out in the cold.
There are a few people still trying to make AOSP happen, but for now, senseless is as close as you'll get.
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Since this is a pretty touchy subject... I'll handle it.
We do not have full functioning AOSP roms. The rezound has very difficult tech to reverse engineer. The AOSP roms that do exist all have no data, text, or call capability. Not even wifi. A few have tried to work on getting AOSP over but either stopped in the hopes that the ICS OTA stuff will help or they just dumped the rezound completely. I just hope you don't get flamed.
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I'm not gonna get flamed. But newtoroots AOSP Rom was so close to perfect, ril worked, everything ran perfectly, except for a few bugs here and there. I would love if some awesome dev out there would take that Rom, fix it up, and put it on the forums. That's my two cents. Thanks for the feedback man.
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zZDave_Stud said:
I'm not gonna get flamed. But newtoroots AOSP Rom was so close to perfect, ril worked, everything ran perfectly, except for a few bugs here and there. I would love if some awesome dev out there would take that Rom, fix it up, and put it on the forums. That's my two cents. Thanks for the feedback man.
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That wasn't aosp brohan. I reiterate, no aosp, only SENSELESS
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I know but it actually used an AOSP SystemUI which is all that I really want. I can post pics if necessary (though it'll be hard on my phone lol)
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Let's not flame this guy. Let's turn this into a productive thread about AOSP even though we have scattered comments about AOSP/AOKP/CM in random threads.
Chad is working on RIL issues in his upcoming kernel. Chad is an extremely busy student so don't expect anything soon although he has gotten calls/sms/1x data working.
We really don't have an updated version of CM9 or AOKP but since we don't have data for them yet, there is no reason to make a ROM bot for them automatically compiling roms nightly.
OK now let's get productive. We have GB source. I don't understand why we don't have a CM7 rom yet. Well, I didn't understand why until I tried do compile/port one myself. I am not an expert at compiling from source especially when our device isn't officially supported but my port won't boot past the splash screen. I am thinking about putting the port up in the dev section and turning it into a community project. I have tried the Demonizing AOSP kernel and I have compiled multiple CM7 kernels from source but still no booting.
I know CM7 is GB based but it's better than nothing at least until we get ICS source.
Quada said:
Let's not flame this guy. Let's turn this into a productive thread about AOSP even though we have scattered comments about AOSP/AOKP/CM in random threads.
Chad is working on RIL issues in his upcoming kernel. Chad is an extremely busy student so don't expect anything soon although he has gotten calls/sms/1x data working.
We really don't have an updated version of CM9 or AOKP but since we don't have data for them yet, there is no reason to make a ROM bot for them automatically compiling roms nightly.
OK now let's get productive. We have GB source. I don't understand why we don't have a CM7 rom yet. Well, I didn't understand why until I tried do compile/port one myself. I am not an expert at compiling from source especially when our device isn't officially supported but my port won't boot past the splash screen. I am thinking about putting the port up in the dev section and turning it into a community project. I have tried the Demonizing AOSP kernel and I have compiled multiple CM7 kernels from source but still no booting.
I know CM7 is GB based but it's better than nothing at least until we get ICS source.
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Fix RIL would still be necessary for CM7 as it is for CM9. So given our most recent leaks/RUUs, makes since to focus on one vs. The other... Gingerbread is ooooooold
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Quada said:
Let's not flame this guy. Let's turn this into a productive thread about AOSP even though we have scattered comments about AOSP/AOKP/CM in random threads.
Chad is working on RIL issues in his upcoming kernel. Chad is an extremely busy student so don't expect anything soon although he has gotten calls/sms/1x data working.
We really don't have an updated version of CM9 or AOKP but since we don't have data for them yet, there is no reason to make a ROM bot for them automatically compiling roms nightly.
OK now let's get productive. We have GB source. I don't understand why we don't have a CM7 rom yet. Well, I didn't understand why until I tried do compile/port one myself. I am not an expert at compiling from source especially when our device isn't officially supported but my port won't boot past the splash screen. I am thinking about putting the port up in the dev section and turning it into a community project. I have tried the Demonizing AOSP kernel and I have compiled multiple CM7 kernels from source but still no booting.
I know CM7 is GB based but it's better than nothing at least until we get ICS source.
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Thanks for the feedback man. And goodluck on your AOSP GB Rom man. And one quick question, (hope I don't sound like a noon) umm, who exactly is chad?
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Quada said:
Let's not flame this guy. Let's turn this into a productive thread about AOSP even though we have scattered comments about AOSP/AOKP/CM in random threads.
Chad is working on RIL issues in his upcoming kernel. Chad is an extremely busy student so don't expect anything soon although he has gotten calls/sms/1x data working.
We really don't have an updated version of CM9 or AOKP but since we don't have data for them yet, there is no reason to make a ROM bot for them automatically compiling roms nightly.
OK now let's get productive. We have GB source. I don't understand why we don't have a CM7 rom yet. Well, I didn't understand why until I tried do compile/port one myself. I am not an expert at compiling from source especially when our device isn't officially supported but my port won't boot past the splash screen. I am thinking about putting the port up in the dev section and turning it into a community project. I have tried the Demonizing AOSP kernel and I have compiled multiple CM7 kernels from source but still no booting.
I know CM7 is GB based but it's better than nothing at least until we get ICS source.
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That's interesting. I always just assumed everyone was so focused on ICS/CM9 that they just never bothered with CM7. I would probably use CM7 over our current crop of ICS choices to be honest.
zZDave_Stud said:
Thanks for the feedback man. And goodluck on your AOSP GB Rom man. And one quick question, (hope I don't sound like a noon) umm, who exactly is chad?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437198&page=70 <<<< chad. Try to refrain from bugging him though, like I said, he is very busy.
fo0you said:
Fix RIL would still be necessary for CM7 as it is for CM9. So given our most recent leaks/RUUs, makes since to focus on one vs. The other... Gingerbread is ooooooold
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Yes but it would be much much easier to fix because we has source. Chad even said that 99% of the issues is just rearranging libraries in the kernel.
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That's interesting. I always just assumed everyone was so focused on ICS/CM9 that they just never bothered with CM7. I would probably use CM7 over our current crop of ICS choices to be honest.
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I would use CM7 over ICS sense as well. I believe a lot of users on here would feel the same.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437198&page=70 <<<< chad. Try to refrain from bugging him though, like I said, he is very busy.
Yes but it would be much much easier to fix because we has source. Chad even said that 99% of the issues is just rearranging libraries in the kernel.
I would use CM7 over ICS sense as well. I believe a lot of users on here would feel the same.
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Alright thanks for letting me know who he was. So now, basically, Chads upcoming kernel will make all current AOSP roms a daily driver (with ril working)? Please tell me if this is incorrect. If its not then I'm actually kind of excited!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437198&page=70 <<<< chad. Try to refrain from bugging him though, like I said, he is very busy.
Yes but it would be much much easier to fix because we has source. Chad even said that 99% of the issues is just rearranging libraries in the kernel.
I would use CM7 over ICS sense as well. I believe a lot of users on here would feel the same.
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Yesss I'd love to have a cm7 . I actually just downgraded back to gb firmware
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zZDave_Stud said:
Alright thanks for letting me know who he was. So now, basically, Chads upcoming kernel will make all current AOSP roms a daily driver (with ril working)? Please tell me if this is incorrect. If its not then I'm actually kind of excited!
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There is no guarantee of him getting 3g/4g data working, but if he does then ICS AOSP roms will become a reality.
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There is no guarantee of him getting 3g/4g data working, but if he does then ICS AOSP roms will become a reality.
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Alright awesome, thanks for the replies everyone, I can't wait for chad's kernel. And I believe that atm I would use CM7 over the assortment of ics roms we have as well.
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zZDave_Stud said:
Alright thanks for letting me know who he was. So now, basically, Chads upcoming kernel will make all current AOSP roms a daily driver (with ril working)? Please tell me if this is incorrect. If its not then I'm actually kind of excited!
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I wouldn't hold my breath. Bottom line is that there has been no updates released to the "public" in a couple of months, just word of mouth that they have it working, except for a few bugs.
Quada said:
Let's not flame this guy. Let's turn this into a productive thread about AOSP even though we have scattered comments about AOSP/AOKP/CM in random threads.
Chad is working on RIL issues in his upcoming kernel. Chad is an extremely busy student so don't expect anything soon although he has gotten calls/sms/1x data working.
We really don't have an updated version of CM9 or AOKP but since we don't have data for them yet, there is no reason to make a ROM bot for them automatically compiling roms nightly.
OK now let's get productive. We have GB source. I don't understand why we don't have a CM7 rom yet. Well, I didn't understand why until I tried do compile/port one myself. I am not an expert at compiling from source especially when our device isn't officially supported but my port won't boot past the splash screen. I am thinking about putting the port up in the dev section and turning it into a community project. I have tried the Demonizing AOSP kernel and I have compiled multiple CM7 kernels from source but still no booting.
I know CM7 is GB based but it's better than nothing at least until we get ICS source.
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I think making it a community rom is a pretty good idea.
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I know but it actually used an AOSP SystemUI which is all that I really want. I can post pics if necessary (though it'll be hard on my phone lol)
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If that's all you really need then use Slim or CleanRom DE. Slim especially has pretty much all of Sense stripped away either is worlds better for battery life.
Chad is doing what protekk couldnt do.
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Newt is currently working on aokp. Says he has calls and texts working so far and next step is data.
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hello there
my qustion is, if it will be an option to overclock our phones on any ics rom ?
because on gingerbread, with the right kernel, it was possible, so I thought and asked myself why it is not possible to overclock it now on new ics roms....
I dont know much about what you must do and mod to enable overclocking in kernels...so dont be afraid or angry when seeing this..
is this because htc is not offering the source code of the new kernel? (btw is this legal? thought that the linux kernel is on gnu licence...)
anyway, was there ever a source code of the gingerbread kernels ? is this the main problem when devs trying to mod something advanced like overclocking possibility?
I've liked my phone on gingerbread overclocked, it was really fast (not the launcher, now it's rendered on gpu as everybody knows..)
and battery also was no problem.......
it would be nice if someone could write a good statement and a good info of what must be done to enable it, because I want to learn also something new..
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hello there
my qustion is, if it will be an option to overclock our phones on any ics rom ?
because on gingerbread, with the right kernel, it was possible, so I thought and asked myself why it is not possible to overclock it now on new ics roms....
I dont know much about what you must do and mod to enable overclocking in kernels...so dont be afraid or angry when seeing this..
is this because htc is not offering the source code of the new kernel? (btw is this legal? thought that the linux kernel is on gnu licence...)
anyway, was there ever a source code of the gingerbread kernels ? is this the main problem when devs trying to mod something advanced like overclocking possibility?
I've liked my phone on gingerbread overclocked, it was really fast (not the launcher, now it's rendered on gpu as everybody knows..)
and battery also was no problem.......
it would be nice if someone could write a good statement and a good info of what must be done to enable it, because I want to learn also something new..
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It probably will be able to be over clocked. Im not an evo user myself but the same thing almost apllies for all phones. I cant give you a big explanation because im noob still but i can tell you something. Overclocking is going to be different in ics because ics has more features meaning more speed. So kernal makers will have to try to make it more ram efficent. Or stop un needed things when ever your not using them. Then it will stay fast without ics kicking in with its slowness at times. Right now thats all i can say. Its 01:00 here and i cant think so i might edit this some other time.
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Overclocking was made possible on gingerbread roms when HTC released kernel sources and thus the developers was able to edit the kernel sources to allow for higher CPU speeds, then build the kernel and release it to us.
The same thing will happen when they release kernel sources for ICS (Or it might even be Jelly Bean by that time, who knows).
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Overclocking was made possible on gingerbread roms when HTC released kernel sources and thus the developers was able to edit the kernel sources to allow for higher CPU speeds, then build the kernel and release it to us.
The same thing will happen when they release kernel sources for ICS (Or it might even be Jelly Bean by that time, who knows).
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there are several kernels for gsm and a few for cdma that allow for this
The kernel source code for the GSM EVO 3D and CDMA i believe was released around a month ago so overclock is there! on the kernel i use not throwing any names i can overclock to 1.8 GHZ !
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The kernel source code for the GSM EVO 3D and CDMA i believe was released around a month ago so overclock is there! on the kernel i use not throwing any names i can overclock to 1.8 GHZ !
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So it is a ics kernel? I think you're not right, if there showed up a way to overclock on ics, it would stand on the xda homepage and also in some threads but there is not such headline or thread....
Btw, sorry for my english, I'm from germany/poland and have not good grades in english at my school (btw I must do something against it, have just one year before going to university... )
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Ubuntu_Man said:
So it is a ics kernel? I think you're not right, if there showed up a way to overclock on ics, it would stand on the xda homepage and also in some threads but there is not such headline or thread....
Btw, sorry for my english, I'm from germany/poland and have not good grades in english at my school (btw I must do something against it, have just one year before going to university... )
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yea, so totally not true. check your pm's!!!
We can not talk about a certain kernel, its disallowed on xda considered warez
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Any ideas on cm 10.1 or are we waiting till the next android update?
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Honestly, I'v been wondering the same thing. But considering that there are only the slightest hints of it on the CM forums and that there's not even a prototype in the nightlies, I'm going to say there's going to be some more wait time. If you want a good combination on kernel and rom to use in the meantime, though, the unsecure kernel and the UKB rom are very nice.
xpent said:
Honestly, I'v been wondering the same thing. But considering that there are only the slightest hints of it on the CM forums and that there's not even a prototype in the nightlies, I'm going to say there's going to be some more wait time. If you want a good combination on kernel and rom to use in the meantime, though, the unsecure kernel and the UKB rom are very nice.
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I love UKB but I couldn't get it Rio stay working when I was running it.
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Radio Interface Layer
CyanogenMod is based on the stock AOSP roms directly from google. In order to have functionality of these roms 3 things are needed. First is the unlocked bootloader which is achieved using the JCase hack. The second is the kernel source which was kindly provided by HTC. The final thing needed is access to the Radio Interface Layer or RIL. Basically this is the software or drivers that allows android to speak to the radio of the phone. These generally are not released to the public and have to be hacked out of a ROM or made from scratch. This is currently not available for the DNA and will be difficult to get as it is the first phone using this hardware combination. It is being worked on by devs but no ETA has been given yet. Until we get this, the only roms we see will be based on the stock sense rom