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Howdy people,
just picked up a strtrk over at expansys.
1.Im thinking about flashing one of the better roms out there,but would like to know if I can recover the current rom on the phone and back up in case there is an issue down the line.
2.I had two instances where the phone locked up on me and the only way to get it out was to do a reset.(well the second time I waited 30 seconds and it recovered) .Both cases I just dialed and number and couldnt hang up .o button response nothing... any ideas?
3.Battery - The battery life plain sucks .I had an archaic T610 before this guy and that got me at least 3 hours of talk time .This one ..an hour if Im lucky.Is it possible to clock it down to save battery?
Im still within my return period on the phone and Im really digging the idea ofa open hackable device but I fear I may have under-estimated the quirks..
I know there are a bunch of roms around.which one is recommended?
proirities being phone usage stability ,signal strength,battery life.?
Thanks,
keba
My phone was fine for a while, although I noticed that the time that it took to load my today screen after a reboot was extremely prolonged after time. I did a hard reset today and backed all my files up with spm back up or sbp? Anyway as I loaded the backup file executable, I noticed when it loaded system files that I saved from my passed phone my phone froze. So I went back and loaded all the files except system and it has been working fine and loading a lot faster, but the freezing still happens. I will list the times I have noticed when it will frequently freeze on me:
When I get a call it will just keep vibrating then I will have to soft reset
When I get in and out of MMS or finish a text
Sometimes my screen won't even turn back on after I didn't it after a day of paintball.
I use Radio rom 3.42.50
Also, this freezing awkwardly began to occur when I started having long conversations with this chick on the phone. Maybe it is a battery problem? If so, if any of you would be kind to get me the stock rom and or dcd 3.2.6 if i need to reinstall anything. I also used the usb unlocking cab not the memory card one, I will even offer money. This is very irritating because this is my business phone and the soft resets lose the last calls and texts I receive. Most of them are very important which is why this sucks so bad, excuse if this is long but many people do not provide sufficient info to troubleshoot to problem.
Thank you guys once again.
P.S I will post in both Titan and Titan upgrading since I am unaware to post this , mod please delete if I am breaking any of the rules.
sporty18 said:
Also, this freezing awkwardly began to occur when I started having long conversations with this chick on the phone.
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I suspect that this is the issue... stop doing this, cuz it's against "The Man Law" Article 8, section 4.... "A man shall NOT engage in lengthy phone chat with a women unless it's about sex, hunting or eating..."
lol
Oh trust the conversation was full of sex , and phone sex
You aren't alone; I was having all sorts of problems like this from 3.26 onward... but now that I've been using 6.5 builds from PPCGeeks, this problem has gone away entirely.
Make the jump d00d.
Can I get a link for that? Any of you think it may be the battery? Yesterday when it was out of battery I plugged it in and it didn't even want to start up anymore. Also the battery was getting pretty hot that usual , very much like it has been used for a long period of time.
I wonder if anyone on Bell is using 6.5. Maybe I should make the jump.
Just installed 21501 by Tplane and got a freeze already. Is there any possible way the issue may be the battery.
1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
Sounds like you should have done your research before you bought the phone.
sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
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sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
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Help? With what? Maybe you could put your questions down in a coherent form and ask them instead of rambling on with your complaints. What exactly do you need help with?
maybe if you could read at all you would see the questions are numbered
please dont waste space by typing dumb replies if you cant answer or help.
wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
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1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
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You didn't find a ROM that was stable? I'm pretty surprised. I'm not trying to bash you like that other guy, but I'm trying to help. If you really did flash different ROM's, chances are ONE of them had to be good.. The battery is dead, it's not normal for that, mine lasts a full day with use, maybe the guy you bought it from ****ed it? idk. Yeah, it does take a bit of tweaking, but seriously, if you flashed like 3 different ROM's, they can't all have been bad..
fuzzysig said:
wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
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yeah winmo is garb. but dude just do a little reserch on how to put linux on your phone so you can run android. ive done it and there is very few problems its basically an evo lol. OORRRR just use HSPL(1,2, or 3) then put a custom winmo rom those dont lagg or anything, personally i hate the custom roms they have for winmo cuz there ugly
so is the android development at a stage where it can be used for daily ops with no major issues?
i was actually thinking of finding a clean T-mo US rom that has been stripped off all the extra software that came with it so when i update opera for example i dont have to keep the old one installed.
unless theres a way to remove all that stuff manually without installing cooked rom?
i finally managed to get rid of that annoying bloated home screen.
i really not a big fan of this fancy clock flipping thru and eating away at my cpu cycles lol.
or a windshield wiper on my screen.
installed the CHT editor.
somewhat more manageable.
now i have a problem when calling.
i call my voicemail or any other phone call. the buttons on the screen dont work
the end call button doesn work and keypad button doesnt work
so when i try to press 7 to delete message theres no keypad...
I hope this is not spam or something , but you shold use a Miri rom , i use v17 and is working grate , also you will can boot andorid from your sd car, and watch out for radio , to be a t mobile compatible , for my it does the job
send it back to htc
if it's the international hd2, then it has a transferrable 2yr warranty so will almost certainly still be under guarantee. i bought an ebay phone (without receipt etc.) with a screen problem, sent it back to htc and they replaced the screen and sent it back in just over a week. ring them up and check the warranty status. needless to say, make sure to flash it back to stock before doing so. good luck!
its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
The HTC HD2 gets VERY hot sometimes. Especially if you are browsing the web with high brightness. Or, if plugged in the USB to computer (charging) and play around with it.
i dont know if i get lucky with these phones or what.
i have not had so many issues with any of my other phones in fact all my other phones besides winmo were great phones
i figured everything out quickly applied all the tweaks and settings everything worked out great for the most part.
this phone is not it.
i just spent last 2 hours doing the following.
soft reset
wait for bootup(about 10-15 min evrey time)
run memory clean
check task manager(no apps running)
wait till i get to home screen
phone goes to sleep and gets stuck on slider when unlocking.
and when performing any kind of task the phone is turtle slow...
i really am loosing patience with this ****.
it really makes me want to kick bill gates in the nuts for taking my time away that i could have been doing something else besides trying to make this phone work.
so to sum it up.
the phone sucks when its factory
you try to tweak it
and end up even worse because the apps are also buggy and might even cripple it even more.
then you are stuck in a loop of constantly reflashing "new and improved" cooked rom
how many roms does it take to make this damn thing work?
i mean XDA dev is FILLED with roms. yet we still have problems.
so much development with so little effect on stability of the phone.
is there a rom that JUST WORKS?
the one that is aimed at overall stable running system and not some animated clouds on the home screen.
i live in seattle and theres no need for weather on the phone. its simple here. 2 choices either rain or clouds.
i really hope we can get a bootable android soon because this windows tweaking sht is getting old.
damn wtf does anything work properly with winmo?
i loaded HSPL took me about 20 minutes to sync with activesync
now the phone wont sync sith it again you damn i hate this BS.
everything works so randomly its not even funny.
you have to be microsoft certified to operate this assphone?
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its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
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are you an idiot? i know your screen is OK and i know your phone is used. it doesn't matter. HTC's warranty is transferrable. you can send it back and they will fix it. geddit?
are you an idiot? the phone is stock and its not international
the screen works fine can you even read?
its the windows that is broken... theres no need to send it to HTC, all they can do is hard reset and send it back to me.
dont post here if you got nothing usefull to post
im tyring the WCX ILLUMINATI SERIES HD2 EURO/TMOUS 21911 2017 rom at the moment hoping that it will actually work this time with no issues.
the thing i ve notticed is theres tonns of tweaks available, but usually once you start customizing settings the phone ****s itsself and stops working properly.
and you re back default settings, which defies the idea of customizing...
Against my better judgment, I'm going to try to clarify some things for you.
The poster who suggested that you send it in to HTC for repair makes a good point. You are having way too many problems with your device for it to be in proper working order. Although it is not uncommon to get some decent heat comming off the HD2, heat + slow + crash strongly suggests that you have a hardware issue that HTC can resolve via repair. Another issue is that since you bought it used, I assume you have no idea what the phone was put through before it was in your possession.
Unfortunately there isn't really a "correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom".
Every user has a different idea of what "best" is.
For example: I can tell you that for me, there isn't anything inherently wrong with the stock ROM. I have been using it since day one and never felt the need to flash a custom one. Also, I have never had to do a hard reset despite the countless tweaks and hacks I have done. For all intents and purposes the HD2 has been a fantastic smartphone for me (and many others here).
Before you bash me for "not helping", please understand that your questions (or should I say, complaints) have already been answered as well as can be. There is no magic "make the phone work good" button that we aren't telling you about. You may not like to hear it but the first poster who said "you should have done your research" may not have been off the mark. It sounds like you would have a better experience with an android phone or an iphone.
Here is your solution simply:
1 - Hard reset
(if that doesn't work)
2 - Flash a custom ROM/Radio that works for you
(if that doesn't work)
3 - Send phone to HTC for repair
(if that doesn't work)
4 - This phone is not for you. Do your research and get an android phone or an iPhone
(if that doesn't work)
5 - Electronics are not for you. Find a cave, invent fire, make stone tools.
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
fuzzysig said:
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
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this is comedy gold.
knock! knock! *your phone is broke*
check your warranty status, and if it's covered
SEND IT TO HTC.
and they will send you back a working phone.
how many times do you need to be told the obvious?
Hello all,
I have an HTC HD2 W6.5.
My email (gmail) send/receive status has been stuck on "disconnecting" for two days and I believe it is sucking my battery dry within 12 hours. I have taken the battery out, removed gmail from the phone and reinstalled it. The same problem occurs once it attempts to receive mail.
Possibly unrelated but happening since the email problem, the screen will not turn on right away when I hit the red disconnect button. I am missing phone calls because of this.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you and all the best,
Jenna Ann
Jenna Ann,
My HD2 started behaving like that last Thursday early afternoon. Phone calls ignored/missed, battery drained, overheating... I deleted all gmail accounts from the phone and - voila! This problem is gone.
I believe Google guys modified their server side 2 days ago causing phones' problem.
Hi Jenna Ann,
I'm having the same issue. Running a system util prog called MemMaid and I can see the process (tmail.exe) is sucking huge amounts of CPU cycles. It's causing my phone to frequently lock-up, whereby only the hardware buttons light up - screen remains blank/black. No amount of soft resets has fixed the issue. I'm not convinced a hard-reset will cure my ills either but it will probably be my next move unless someone else has a better idea.
Watching the tmail.exe process eat up to 98% of the CPU also causes my HD2 to get extremely hot like yours. Once I've killed/terminated the process, HD2 begins to cool down and the idle process goe back to normal (99%). I should also add that I've had my phone for 11months now and have had no ongoing issues until now. I haven't installed any new apps either for quite some time. In fact, like you, everything was/has been running along smoothly without incident until a couple of days ago. Initially, my first thought was the battery but it's not the battery that gets hot so I thought my hardware had suddenly developed a fault.
I still have no idea. The comment about google changing something server side is interesting if for no other reason than the timing of it all. But when I do a soft reset, it is the AudioManager_Eng.exe process that hogs the CPU first. Killing that process then sets the tmail.exe process into high CPU utilization. Killing that process solves the problem temporarily but as I'm charging the battery whilst this is taking place (via PC), inevitably tmail.exe goes into CPU overdrive again after 10mins or so. I believe ActiveSync might be responsible in someway for that.
I also see my Hotmail account (also uses tmail.exe) also has trouble connecting/disconnecting when the process is in run away mode. It just hangs there, same as gmail, whilst this tmail.exe process gobbles up all of the CPU. So, not convinced deleting my Gmail account will solve the issue but might give it a shot. One would think if Google changed something then there'd be a hell of a lot of disgruntled people out there ... and maybe there is??
I'm really hoping there's a simple solution to this. At a minimum, hoping this is a software related issue and not hardware. Hope someone here at XDA can help.
Mick.
Thanks for the replies and ideas. I removed gmail again and shut every program down. I then reinstalled gmail through ActiveSync. So far the email server has not gotten stuck. We'll see about the screen freezing.
Take care,
Jenna Ann
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Jenna Ann,
My HD2 started behaving like that last Thursday early afternoon. Phone calls ignored/missed, battery drained, overheating... I deleted all gmail accounts from the phone and - voila! This problem is gone.
I believe Google guys modified their server side 2 days ago causing phones' problem.
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Hello people
There has been some discusiion of this on the Dutty Rom development thread. It is certainly linked to Gmail.
Can ask what ROM you are running? Stock, Dutty, Energy etc as I don't seem to see much mention of the problem on other ROM development sites and wonder if it's linked to GMail and just a few cooked ROMs.
As detroitredwings said
Google have performed a server side update and tmobile US agree there is a problem - other reports says its only on imap and not on pop but I can't confirm or deny
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Hello people
There has been some discusiion of this on the Dutty Rom development thread. It is certainly linked to Gmail.
Can ask what ROM you are running? Stock, Dutty, Energy etc as I don't seem to see much mention of the problem on other ROM development sites and wonder if it's linked to GMail and just a few cooked ROMs.
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I've never done anything to my ROM but probably should. It's the standard issue that came installed in the phone.
ROM version: 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE
Any suggestions about what to do with my ROM would be appreciated. I'm a completely noob and have looked through ROM flashing tutorials but still have no idea what to do.
I too began experiencing the same exact issue last Thursday night. Phone very hot and battery draining fast. Quite a feat since I have the large extended battery. I just set up my gmail for the pop3 server and then did send/recieve. tmail.exe went back to zero so it looks like this is the immediate solution. Thanks johnerz!
I also has this problem. I actually have both activesync and also pop3 and both of them are giving me issue. I hope gmail fix it soon.
Gmail drain
Yep- same problem for me as of two days ago.
Symptoms: phone overheating, battery discharging. Gmail constantly stuck in 'disconnect' and also cannot power on screen with quick touch to hardware 'on' button
HD2, ROM build 3.14.405.2
BIG PROBLEM needs to be escalated
Stupid me, I thought that it has sommething to do with my pouch and buyed a new one
Here we can see the Gmail known Issue: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=known_issues.cs
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Stupid me, I thought that it has sommething to do with my pouch and buyed a new one
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Until I noticed the gmail connection issue, after my battery drained twice in the same day, I purchased a new battery thinking it was a battery issue.
crashes, weird behavior, battery drain, hot
I have the exact same issues: the hard keys frequently don't work, the phone crashes, calls get dropped and then an instant reboot, the battery gets hot and drains very quickly, gmail gets stuck in "Disconnecting."
I thought it was a problem with the battery pins causing a short, but they appear to be fine, at least to my eyes.
Interestingly, when the hard keys are not working, I can get it to respond by holding down the off key for a few seconds and then the home key.
I'm relieved to hear others are having the same issue. I was about to go out and buy a new battery as I'd read in another forum that a hot battery and wonky behavior was a sure sign of impending battery failure . . .
Update
Did as an earlier poster recommended, and reset Gmail a/c settings. All was well till earlier today, when the same problem occurred again. How depressing...
At least the problem is identifed
For what it's worth, I can confirm that this gmail issue is definitely what is causing the wonky behavior that we all seem to have experienced. When I shut down the email app, everything returns to normal.
Anyone have any information about the google team's efforts to fix the problem?
Google Forums thread
XDA Developers does not allow me to post an outside link, but if you search for tmail spike on Google and then go to the first link, then follow 'Another discussion' at the top of the forum page, you'll find over a hundred messages of complaint...
... and if anyone knows how to escalate problems with Google, please let us know here
hd2 user from Singapore. I guess this problem start a week ago. problem is CPU usage for Tmail.exe when high up to 98% then overheats and drain all the battery. its crazy!! 82% battery gone in 2hours or less!! can't use emails for now. this problem almost cause my either the battery or the phone to die, was charging till the notification light shows red and green non stop.
Confirming the issue
I have a stock T-Mobile HTC-HD2, and it's been acting exactly as described in this thread for the last few days.
Please post if you find a solution.
Thanks.
It's happening to both my HD2's. Started about 4 days ago with my wife's and 2 days ago with mine.
After a fresh flash this morning on mine, Gmail won't log end or stop the send/receive on either one of my accounts using IMAP. Frustrating.
haighpaul said:
Hello people
There has been some discusiion of this on the Dutty Rom development thread. It is certainly linked to Gmail.
Can ask what ROM you are running? Stock, Dutty, Energy etc as I don't seem to see much mention of the problem on other ROM development sites and wonder if it's linked to GMail and just a few cooked ROMs.
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My ROM info is in my signature though based on what I am seeing in the Google forum it matters little.
I've discovered a severe "bug" that is not an isolated issue. I am using the AT&T branded Titan, unlocked on Telus Mobility. Works like a charm however after replacing my Titan several times I've discovered there is a MAJOR reoccurring bug in the OS which causes the Titan to "crash" when the storage capacity has reached a certain amount. I have tested it on several replacement Titans. I have also encountered this crash more than 10 times and can reproduce it easily. Other users have also reported encountering the same crash upon testing.
When this "crash" takes place when you have filled your storage with media or apps beyond approx. 75% (this may now be inaccurate). Based on my testing the crash occurs sooner when the storage is filled higher. In some instances it occurred within 20 min or less of storage reaching over 90% capacity. In a few cases it crashed the next day. These crashed are not caused by anything specific but will occur randomly. I've witnessed the crash in 2 forms. One a UI glitch which I will explain in a moment. The other is simply the phone being stuck on the white HTC boot screen which can only be resolved with a hard reset. The other more common crash appears as a UI glitch at first and you can no longer launch any apps, any tiles or anything at all. You are forced to do a soft reset (which tricks you to think this fixes the odd UI glitch). Upon soft reset the phone will take much longer to reboot than normal. This is because it's actually entering the first time setup process! Your Windows Live Hotmail hub and account settings are magically and permanently removed as well as your Facebook settings. It is impossible to re-add these back and it will only give you repeated errors when trying to do so.
However, all your previous apps, media and some settings will be oddly retained.. for a temporary time until another crash forcing a hard reset. Before this occurs I recommend transferring any personal media off the phone to risk losing it. At this point a hard reset is the only way you can re-add your Windows Live Hotmail account and Facebook account. And of course this causes utter sadness since you lose all your settings, media, apps and any Xbox Live game progress (in my case A LOT of progress).
As mentioned this is not an isolated issue and needs to be addressed. I have decided to contact HTC directly about this in hopes for a resolution. Originally it was thought when you go over 75% capacity of storage this crash would occur however I discovered yesterday that this crash occurred for me with only 7Gb storage remaining BUT was stable for over a month before the crash occurred.
I really hope HTC or Microsoft address this issue. I have heard from Titan users in Europe this issue was resolved in an update. However this update is not available to North America.
I have uploaded a video of the UI glitch version of the crash here and what occurs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2enkDBdixCc .
Oh man that would suck. Tomorrow I will fill my titan to the brim. Stay tuned
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Filling my Titan up now, I'll let you know the result.
Filled to 557mb remaining. Filled with movies and TV shows. No panic attacks yet. I'll keep using as normal.
I have 1988mb remaining. Dint have much to fill but loaded with massive movies. So far no panic attacks. Using it as normal. Will give it a few hours or maybe even 24 hrs. Do you want me to do anything specific that will freeze it?
All apps launch fine from tiles as well as app list.
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drupad2drupad said:
I have 1988mb remaining. Dint have much to fill but loaded with massive movies. So far no panic attacks. Using it as normal. Will give it a few hours or maybe even 24 hrs. Do you want me to do anything specific that will freeze it?
All apps launch fine from tiles as well as app list.
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Give it a day or so I'd say. The first Titan would crash almost immediately. First sign is when hubs would not open. On the current Titan I had it filled for about 2 days then it started giving Active X errors in Internet Explorer while streaming html 5 videos. I had a feeling it wasn't normal so I closed IE then the phone crashed and I couldn't open any hubs or apps.
Lets see what happens.. Could take a day or so with heavy use. Based on my tests sometimes even soft resets can initiate a crash.
Could it be...
I filled my Titan to less than 600 megs after I added all my music and apps from my Focus. From time to time when browsing the internet, the page will freeze then IE kicks my to the homescreen. When I reopen IE, it's has no history of the page I was just browsing. This has happened over twenty times in five days I've had my Titan.
Bug fixed with new release
I had the same problem but it has been solved with the last firmware realease.
cricri23 said:
I had the same problem but it has been solved with the last firmware realease.
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that's great news but on the ATT model I'm not finding any updates through Zune. I even tried forcing any updates but still nothing..
I noticed the same thing. I think it may actually be the app storage which you can change in the zune settings. I changed mine from 5 to 10% and so far so good. I wasn't that close to running out of room in my media storage.
@audichris9
Changing these values will not resolve the problem. If you record a big video on your device, you'll probably loose it. It append to me.
The only way is to wait the firmware release in your country.
i have been having the same problem.
i won my titan at a windows party, and now i have it unlocked to work on t-mobile. i thought it was because i unlocked it, it started freezing. but i hard reset, loaded it up, and then it froze again. im tired of having to redo the phone cus its like over 100 apps to redownload everytime plus music. also my google mail wont work so i guess i will be hard resetting one more time, and make sure i dont put as much **** on it. its got 7gb of storage still and your right no update for the US yet
The 2 Titans I have are also ones that were won from the MS promo parties. Not sure if that's related. So far this is the most stable its been, its been a week with no forced hard resets. But not sure how long I can go not adding media or recording videos.
I will say that it still hasn't been glitch free. Kik messenger crashes from time to time as went as internet explorer. But at least it hasn't froze or forced to hard reset again.
wow impressive but i agree its scary thinking if u add just one album the phone is ****ed. lately windows messenger goes out of sync and i cant facebook chat. very weird. i restarted the phone then it works. but when i go to settings and try and add it under accounts, it doesnt save. weird.i never had any problems with my hd7. now i get the phone of my dreams and it wants to be a ***** :X haha
pistol44 said:
I may have stumbled onto either a widespread issue with the Titan or just an issue with a small percentage.
I noticed another member mentioning their first Titan being a dud and crashing at 75% storage capacity. Funny enough I am also on my 2nd Titan and experienced similar problems both times.
Both become unstable only after I installed all my apps, games and media so essentially once it was fully loaded up. Then the phone would crash in some unusual and random way each time forcing me to perform a hard reset. Most commonly the hubs would cause a UI glitch not allowing any apps to be launch. I would be forced to soft reset where then it would take 4 times longer than normal to boot. Then I would be brought back to the Windows Phone first time setup but strangely all my apps and media would still be there except the ATT apps would be restored and some of the original settings would revert. As well you lose you hotmail setup and Facebook sync and neither can be restored without a hard reset so it's a catch 22.
I bought a second Titan thinking I had a lemon the first time but found the second one did the same thing to me once I followed the same routine. It's stable now only because I uploaded a bunch of media to the cloud this time and my storage is at 8.9gb remaining instead of the usual 2gb. I'm scared to transfer movies and other media on to it and fill it up.
Do you think it's an issue with all Titans when you fill it near capacity or is it possible I have 2 lemons? Wondering if anyone else has theirs over 75% capacity?
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Ran into this exact issue. Just not sure how close I was to capacity, but I would imagine it was definitely over 75%. Not cool...
Curious if MS knows about this issue.. Or if it's Titan specific. I guess in that case we'd need a fix from HTC.
Either way we need a fix for it from either one. We shouldn't have to avoid using storage on our phones forever.
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Fixed in v7.10 (7740)
This issue was fixed for me on v7.10 (7740), 2-3 weeks ago.
Did anybody else had this update ?
cricri23 said:
This issue was fixed for me on v7.10 (7740), 2-3 weeks ago.
Did anybody else had this update ?
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As far as I know this update is not available to the AT&T branded models.
man my titan crashed again today. i was on the phone and got off and the screen was frozen. now the phone wont turn back on wtf! my hd7 never gave me a single problem and now i get the flagship Titan, and i cant load it to the max, i cant use fb chat. **** is weak. i am in LOVE with windows phone but this has bummed me out. tired of hard resetting ahh just a little vent
Guys have you tried 7740 update? Or the HTC firmware/driver update with new drivers?