I recently bought a Seidio Innocell 1400 battery for my G1. For some reason, the battery won't charge while it's in the phone.
If I take it out of the phone and charge it in my desk cradle, it works just fine and fully charges in a few hours. It will easily last twice as long as my worn out original OEM battery, as long as I don't connect the phone to a charger.
Here's the weird part. Not only can I not charge the battery while it's in the phone, but it actually drains significantly faster when I connect the charger. Without the charger connected, it will last me all day with moderate use. If the charger is connected when this battery is in the phone, it will drain the battery from a full charge to the point where the phone shuts off in a little more than an hour. I don't know how this is even possible.
My phone works and charges just fine with my OEM battery installed. I've tried several different chargers, which all work when I'm using the oem battery and had the same results, so I know the charger isn't the problem. I had the same problem with the Andida batteries a while back, but figured they were just defective when I saw that everyone else was having problems with them too. Does anyone have any ideas, or did I just get another defective battery?
I have an "Andida" from ebay that does this. I got a partial refund from the seller. I think the overcharge protection circuit is flaky when this happens. Try to get a refund or replacement from the seller.
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For the past couple of days, my phone's battery life has been pathetic. I kept it in my pocket for around 7 hours, and when I checked it, the battery almost completely out of juice.
Welcome to the club.
really
im having the same problem
Likewise, there seems to be little capable besides having a charger around, or maybe an extended battery. I put my charger in my pocket because I have access to an outlet or PC (for USB charger) almost always.
I also usually have my car adapter, just in case. I still want an extended battery however. They give this thing NO juice for so much power
http://store.everythinghtc.com/seidio-innocell-2000mah-extended-battery/8A37A4988.htm
That is the link to the extended battery and cover that I use. It lasts a heck of a lot longer but with most extended batteries you have to give something to get something.
Got my second Prime, after having to send back the first one. But this time the charger was defective. I have been able to charge it a bit by using the USB on the PC, so-called trickle charge, but I did not charge it properly before first time use (the eight hours recommended). The tablet was slightly used, slightly charged, slightly used and charged to exactly 100% through computer's USB. The dock won't trickle charge at all and has now 0% power.
I can send in the charger back and receive a new, but this will take one to two weeks. So I won't be able to charge the dock at all in a couple of weeks and it will be stored with 0 % battery power. The tablet would have to do with the trickle charge.
I then wonder how damaging this could be the battery? I do not want to take any chances and end up with a crappy battery after a year or two. I have read a lot on the internet, but people are very inconsistent about whether a Li-ion battery will be damaged without proper first time charging or not, and lying around for a couple of weeks with zero battery power.
Thanks in advance!
LightlyX said:
Got my second Prime, after having to send back the first one. But this time the charger was defective. I have been able to charge it a bit by using the USB on the PC, so-called trickle charge, but I did not charge it properly before first time use (the eight hours recommended). The tablet was slightly used, slightly charged, slightly used and charged to exactly 100% through computer's USB. The dock won't trickle charge at all and has now 0% power.
I can send in the charger back and receive a new, but this will take one to two weeks. So I won't be able to charge the dock at all in a couple of weeks and it will be stored with 0 % battery power. The tablet would have to do with the trickle charge.
I then wonder how damaging this could be the battery? I do not want to take any chances and end up with a crappy battery after a year or two. I have read a lot on the internet, but people are very inconsistent about whether a Li-ion battery will be damaged without proper first time charging or not, and lying around for a couple of weeks with zero battery power.
Thanks in advance!
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Before sending the charger in try putting in a plastic bag and place it in the freezer for about 20 minutes. Get as much air out of the bag as possible. It could be the chargers safety has been tripped and its stuck.
they recommended the battery be fully charged up when first recieced. they say 8hrs. but that's way too long. only takes about 2 hrs. for battery to fully charge through its power plug. once fully charged battery will need To go through a few complete cycles(from 100% to 0% or close) before the battery is properly calibrated and optimized.
I wouldn't think trickle charging the prime will hurt anything as long as you still going through cycles. if you only can trickle charge right now, might be best not to let prime go completely dead. just charge once its low or whenever not in use. how long did it take to charge battery completely up through trickle charge?
As far as I know trickle charge is even better for Lithium batteries, and provides longer battery times and less wear-and-tear on the battery.
Tried the freezer. It would charge for a couple of minutes, then stop again. But it gets pretty hot, so I would thinks it's overheating.
Don't know how long the trickle charge takes. I charged it for maybe four hours from 60 %, but don't know when the charge was complete.
And as I said, I used the prime for a bit, turning it on and off, tryinging to get the charging to work. I first charged it completely after 2 days. And the dock got dischared at once since connected it to the tablet at once, and left it for 8 hours because I thought it was charging. Haven't been able to charge the dock since...
Trickle charging is actually better for your devices than charging with a rapid charger. It both prolongs the overall life of the battery and can lead to "deeper" charging where the batter actually ends up with a slightly higher stored charge which would give you slightly longer battery life.
As for the charger, if you live near an OfficeDepot they might have some in-store so you can pick up a replacement for around $30. You can also get them online from the OfficeDepot website: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/768723/ASUS-Power-Adapter-For-Eee-Pad/
Even if you get your charger back from RMA, it is good to have a spare charger lying around!
Just gonna review some of the accessories I have used and what i think about 'em
First up is the 3500mAH extended battery by HHI
This battery came in at a cost of $9.99 with free Shipping! It showed up with an 80% charge which is in the acceptable range of where they like to sit. The battery performs just as one would expect it too. I am currently running MeanRom, and can easily get 16-20 hours of use with some really heavy gaming. However I recently went on a vacation and wanted to run the battery through a couple different variations of "discharging". So with the phone in Airplane mode(no radios connected) and very little use i easily can get a week out of the phone without charging. Again this is without any radios on, not connecting to anything.The stock battery cant touch these numbers. i would be lucky to get a full day out of the stock battery with no gaming and normal use.I didn't do a sticker pull to run the numbers. So I'm taking HHI's word on the 3500mAH being just that.
To conclude on this battery the $10 investment turned out to be a good choice, although it might not be a seidio or something it does more than i expected it to do. I will continue to use this battery till I get rid of the phone. The battery can be found here.
To continue on the batteries,
I also bought some of the Galilio "2000mAH" batteries, I got 3 of them with a wall charger for $13.99 on ebay, as reviewed by many others.
This is my experience with them. So they showed up in the mail and upon opening them i discovered one of the batteries look like it got dropped or skipped accross the cement, im not sure what happened, but who is gonna put a messed up battery in their phone.. So i really only got 2 batteries. I brought it up to the seller he offered me $3.00 back, it wasn't worth my time even dealing with that any further at this point. Anyways the batteries Are nice little backup batteries i take with me on trips.They make for easy backup batteries. The batteries have been suspected to be somewhere along the lines of 1000-1200mAH. I would have to agree, even with no testing with any type of tool, besides my phone. They last a most couple of hours. The wall charger that came with them actually surprised me. Everyone was reporting that it may overcharge your stock battery, which can cause some issues. This charger(as pictured below) will charge the Galilio batteries to 100% with no problems. I put my stock HTC battery into the wall charger and with repeated attempts the charger will not charge the battery past 85% even when i left it on the wall charger for 2 days. I do believe that the stock HtC charger that came with the phone gives the batteries a "better" charge, but the wall charger seems to not charge the batteries past a safe range as everyone seems to be reporting as a possible issue. My issue is it doesn't charge it well enough.
I've attached some pictures of the battery results and of the batteries.
Reserved for more... case reviews coming up next
i got the 3500 mAh from HHI. great battery, even better price.
Yea that battery is awesome!
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Going to try this battery out. Thanks for the review.
The 85% is charge limit is what a cheap charger do,
The "charger" that come with the phone is simply a power supply, the charging circuit is actually "built in" to the phone. You can connect the OEM HTC charger/power supply into one of those cheap aftermarket dock that charge a 2nd battery and it will never charge the battery past 85% either.
To make it short and sweet
There's 2 stage of Li-ion charging
1) charge to 4.2v at constant current which is 85% when it first reach/near 4.2v
2) saturation charge, once the battery reach 4.2v, continue charging but at gradually reducing current until it reach about 3% of default charge current
Cheap charger have a simple/cheap circuit and cannot do stage 2 charging, where the charging circuit built into each phone would do stage 2 charging
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
bitslizer said:
The 85% is charge limit is what a cheap charger do,
The "charger" that come with the phone is simply a power supply, the charging circuit is actually "built in" to the phone. You can connect the OEM HTC charger/power supply into one of those cheap aftermarket dock that charge a 2nd battery and it will never charge the battery past 85% either.
To make it short and sweet
There's 2 stage of Li-ion charging
1) charge to 4.2v at constant current which is 85% when it first reach/near 4.2v
2) saturation charge, once the battery reach 4.2v, continue charging but at gradually reducing current until it reach about 3% of default charge current
Cheap charger have a simple/cheap circuit and cannot do stage 2 charging, where the charging circuit built into each phone would do stage 2 charging
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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im just saying its not gonna over charge your battery like everyone warns you about all over the place lol
Makis709 said:
Going to try this battery out. Thanks for the review.
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Awesome!!! its well worth it!!
I have a Samsung Galaxy s 3 i9300 straight from the factory unlocked. Three months after having it, I started having battery problems. It wasn't charging fast enough and it died fast. So I bought a couple new chargers. They worked, but broke fast. After a while, my phone just wouldn't charge with any charger. I figured out that it was the port and I had to bend the charger to the right so it would work. I got tired of this so I bought the official Samsung Galaxy s3 external battery charger; the one that comes with the extra battery. I've been using this for about a month. I love that I can switch batteries when one is dead. I'm never with a dead phone. So earlier today, my external charger and both batteries were working. I dropped my phone and the phone just turned off. I tried turning it back on, but it never worked. So I went and switched batteries and the phone came back on. I know the other battery wasn't dead, because it had 15% battery before I dropped it. I put the battery that wasn't working in the external charger, and the external charger isn't working now. I let it stay in the external charger for a while thinking that it may be the light that just isn't working on the charger. I switched the batteries out and the battery still won't work when I put it in the phone. Also, the external battery charger won't charge either batteries now, but the battery that is working will charge if charge it the regular way. All of this just happened at once. Probably a coincidence, but I don't know what is going on.
You dropped it, the battery is broken. Putting it into the charger sounds like it shorted out, breaking the charger. Replace both battery and charger, simple.
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Hello guys... I'm having a major problem with my battery not taking a charge or just being stubborn.
I used multiple chargers and the phone refuses to charge. It discharges even though it says it's charging and it mounts via USB with no issues and data transfer is faster than ever. I have the OEM stock and the Laza extended battery but the Laza takes much too long and the stock battery won't come back at all because the charger kills it...
This started when I left my extended battery on the charger overnight and it was at maybe 30%. I woke up and it was dead; it wasn't responding to anything unless I pulled the battery and it gave me the blinking orange LED. Any ideas?
*phone was dropped once but a WHILE ago
did nothing special and it was charging great 3 days ago
charging while powered down actually kills the battery FASTER
I'd appreciate any help.
Have the same issue. I believe my USB port is coming loose from the board and needs repair or replacement. I tried physically bending bits of the port with the battery removed to mixed success short-term, but now I have trouble just getting data to connect over the cable. Could try to work around the issue by buying a couple of wall chargers for just the battery pack, then circulate between two or three batteries through the day. Used Battery Monitor Widget app to see my device can eat 500 to 1,000 mA an hour, so I got two 500 mAh chargers and spare batteries to keep pace with max drain rate.
Okay, thanks for the recommendation! My Droid MAXX has arrived but my battery is actually doing pretty well right now. It decided to charge overnight but still no luck with the stock. But I still want to use this phone to test ROMs, and it's difficult to do so with the discharged battery. Anyways thanks a lot, I will look into this. Or maybe I could buy another Rezound for cheap or a Thunderbolt (if it works).