I recently bought a Seidio Innocell 1400 battery for my G1. For some reason, the battery won't charge while it's in the phone.
If I take it out of the phone and charge it in my desk cradle, it works just fine and fully charges in a few hours. It will easily last twice as long as my worn out original OEM battery, as long as I don't connect the phone to a charger.
Here's the weird part. Not only can I not charge the battery while it's in the phone, but it actually drains significantly faster when I connect the charger. Without the charger connected, it will last me all day with moderate use. If the charger is connected when this battery is in the phone, it will drain the battery from a full charge to the point where the phone shuts off in a little more than an hour. I don't know how this is even possible.
My phone works and charges just fine with my OEM battery installed. I've tried several different chargers, which all work when I'm using the oem battery and had the same results, so I know the charger isn't the problem. I had the same problem with the Andida batteries a while back, but figured they were just defective when I saw that everyone else was having problems with them too. Does anyone have any ideas, or did I just get another defective battery?
I have an "Andida" from ebay that does this. I got a partial refund from the seller. I think the overcharge protection circuit is flaky when this happens. Try to get a refund or replacement from the seller.
Hello Everyone,
So my first day using the Amaze I loved the phone and hated the battery life, with barely using it, bluetooth, wifi and gmail sync all off (no fb) I got about 3% by 5pm. So I am looking for extended battery and dont feel like spending $21 on Anker, specially that all Anker lovers are members since May 2011 or so, kinda fishy, so I looked at alternatives.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this battery:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Sensati...063195?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a6efb415b
It may be the same one Anker uses from the same manufacturer in China, I am guessing though, since they are both 1900mAH. For my G2 I got an extended battery from Hong Kong for $4 or $5 and it was excellent except that the door wore out, so I have no worries buying chinese/hk products on eBay.
Thanks!
I'm using an Anker battery and its amazing. That battery looks very generic. I wouldn't trust it.
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hasoon2000 said:
I'm using an Anker battery and its amazing. That battery looks very generic. I wouldn't trust it.
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I'm curious. Does your Anker battery drop from 100% to 94% in a matter of 10 to 15 minutes even without using the phone? I've finally had a chance to better compare stock and Anker batteries and I am getting better life out of stock; but it seems to be in the first 8% that makes the difference. The stock battery remains at 100% after a full charge for a good length of time, then slowly drops thru the 90's even while in use. The Anker battery literally drop 8% in minutes even without use, then slows to a "normal" rate after that. Could my battery just be defective in some manner?
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I'm curious. Does your Anker battery drop from 100% to 94% in a matter of 10 to 15 minutes even without using the phone? I've finally had a chance to better compare stock and Anker batteries and I am getting better life out of stock; but it seems to be in the first 8% that makes the difference. The stock battery remains at 100% after a full charge for a good length of time, then slowly drops thru the 90's even while in use. The Anker battery literally drop 8% in minutes even without use, then slows to a "normal" rate after that. Could my battery just be defective in some manner?
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Mine does that as well. I bought it from eBay and told the seller. They sent me a new one and it happens. Mine goes from 100% to 92%. Then when I have about 20%, my phone will beep and say it has 14%. The battery is very strong at 14% but when it drops to 13%, then I have to charge it. But the battery gets me ALOT longer battery life than stock.
Anker Battery and Charger
I have been using the Anker battery on my Amaze. The battery charges in like 2-2 1/2 hours. The charge holds for up to 6-7 hours. I read review on Amazon that these batteries hold charge when you charge them with Anker charger and not while its inserted in your phone. I ordered the Anker Battery charger and have been charging the battery ever since. You will be amazed how long the battery lasts. I am a heavy user and the battery lasts for 8-9 hours now. And when I disable the background data during night, I don't have to charge the battery till next day.
Here is the link for the charger. You can also charge the OEM Battery with this charger.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Multi-P...CV7O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328071542&sr=8-2
So based on all the positive feedback I didnt get the 2x battery + charger from the Chinese seller. Instead I opted for Los Angeles based Anker battery and paid sales tax and got the battery and charger in 2 days for about $21, almost triple the cost of the other one from ebay from my first post in this thread, which actually came with 2 batteries.
So I performed a scientific experiment today took notes and times and made sure things are going smooth. Fully charged the stock and Anker to 100%. Turned on all GPS, WiFi, Data Sync, Bluetooth, Screen Brightness to get the battery to die as fast as possible. Turned on Netflix and started watching Frazier on both batteries until they both died.
Here are the results:
Anker = 183 minutes to auto-shut off had 2:30 minutes of phone call in the middle, not counted in the 183 minutes.)
Stock Battery = 189 minutes to auto-shut-off (had 8 minutes of idle time in between two episodes of the show, not counted in the 189 minutes). The stock battery is about 2 months old, abused and recharged repeatedly in the car, charged when 50% full, disconnected and reconnected over and over in the car etc.
Both phones were in the exact same spot and connected to external speakers. Both experiments were started immediately after the phone was disconnected from the charger. Both were done on the same phone. So based on my experiment, I feel I simply got a second battery for $21 with a mediocre charger. Definitely NOT an extended battery. The Anker is definitely NOT an extended battery I would say its 1800mAh. (look up on eBay there are many 2800mAh batteries with "effective capacity" of 1800mAh). Just as I thought its simply a rebadged cheap $3 battery with white label and a made up brand name and I was duped, should've bought a $3.49 free shipping battery on eBay. Also the battery is about a hair taller than the stock battery so you have to kinda force it in the Amaze as it says right on top Sensation although it was sold as Amaze 4G battery, I don't care though.
On the positive side, the CHARGER can connect to your existing charger, pretty cool concept, although it may sound useless but its really useful in the car where I don't have 110v but I have a car charger that I can plug into this charger and use a second cable to connect the phone to this charger, this way I can charge both batteries while driving, one on the charger the second inside the phone connected to the Anker charger then connected to the car charger.
I should've bought this 2200mAh battery, probably better than the Anker.
I bought the Anker 1900 from amazon about a month ago. Like someone mentioned, if you charge the battery in charger, you will get better discharge rates.
Keep in mind this is done after I have done a five full charge/discharge cycles on the batteries.
Moderate & High use
Using daily roads manager (GPS, Camera 720p Video Recording) 40min|120min per charging cycle
Bluetooth,Wifi, and GPS always ON
Screen Brightness at 2% or 100%. on 2% 2/3 of the screen on time.
Accounts Sync set to Hourly
Text/MMS (<200|>200)
Youtube (30min|80min)
Moderate use Includes 8-10hrs on standby while I slept
Stock Battery
Charged to 100% on the phone
-Holds 100% charge for more than an hour on standby
-Drops to 92% after 20min drive to work
-Record uptime 20hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 10hrs with heavy use
Anker 1900
Charged to 96% on charger, topped off to 100% on the Phone
-Holds 100% after disconnecting for about 10mins on standby then starts dropping fast.
-Drops to 92% after 20min drive to work
-Record uptime 23hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 11hrs with heavy use
Charged on the Phone fully to 100%
-Drops to 95% before even getting to my car within 10 mins on standby
-Drops to 82% after 20 min drive to work
-Record uptime 8hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 4hrs with heavy use
While I haven't performed qualitative experiments as several of you have, I can honestly say that after using the Anker battery long enough for it to go through numerous "cycles", it definitely lasts longer than stock. It still drops very quickly from 100% down to mid-90s within a few minutes even without using the device, but it used to drop to low 90s in that same period of time. Anyway, regardless of the odd characteristics, it seems to be a very good battery.
BTW, if you pay anywhere close to $21 for just the battery, you're getting ripped of by that retailer. You can easily find it online for $15, and you can often find 2 batteries with the charger for $30. (Actually, Amazon has 1 battery & the charger for $19 right now, see http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh...LR66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328364737&sr=8-1.) I wasn't that patient so I got one battery and the charger for $28 back in early January, but I honestly wouldn't bother with the charger if I had to do it over again. But that's just me, others have reported it as being great benefit so it probably depends on your situation.
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BTW, if you pay anywhere close to $21 for just the battery, you're getting ripped of by that retailer. You can easily find it online for $15, and you can often find 2 batteries with the charger for $30.
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I did get the $18.99 with charger and yes I was ripped off and paid close to $21 because my wonderful state of CA charges me an arm and a leg for sales tax. Also there is only one seller for Anker on both eBay and Amazon thats laptopmate, same price both on eBay and Amazon except that on Amazon is free supersaver shipping meaning you have to spend $25 to get free shipping but on eBay you don't. Laptopmate ships from a house neat los Angeles which maybe someone who bought a lot and imported from China and now selling them on eBay and Amazon for good profit because I don't see it being any better than the $3.49 and $6.02 batteries I posted above. When I got an extended battery for my old G2 it lasted me over twice as long but made the phone larger.
Seems charging this battery I'm the charger that came with it will give you the best discharge rates. Below is light use, with Wifi,BT, and gps on the whole time. Used it only for dash cam for about 2 hours off and on.
When I tried charging the battery on the phone only, I'd be lucky if I can hit 10 hours.
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I bought this battery for my HTC Amaze 4G (I love this phone!!!) and on my first full discharge cycle, the charge dropped from 100% to 95% in 3 minutes. It seemed to skip 99% through 96%. It then continued to discharge rapidly until around the mid 70's when it kind of starts to slow down.
By the 50% mark, it seems to discharge at a normal rate. During this cycle, I had my Bluetooth on for the 1 hour drive to and from work +1 drive into work on the day it ran out completely. Talk time was around 15 mins in mixed Bluetooth, handset, and speaker phone. About 3 hours of surfing, facebook, gtalk, Globe and Mail news app, and watched a couple of Youtube videos. I sent and received email and calendar notifications (sound+vibrate) almost every 30 mins. I turned off Wifi if I wasn't near any hotspot. I used Bluetooth tethering for about 45 mins. It was in airplane mode between 2 am and 6 am.
By the 20% mark, the discharge rate was very slow. It took another 3 hours before it reached 4% when the phone automatically powered off. Before it did that, I was able to take a picture of it with my webcam (attached) where it shows it has been on for 28 hours.
I am getting the same from my stock battery, and am happy with it anyway, so honestly, I cannot tell if this is really a 1900Mah battery inside. I will keep using it for a week. If it does not improve, I will switch back to my stock battery because that seems to discharge at a more constant rate.
What brand is it? Is it an anker?
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What brand is it? Is it an anker?
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Well I have an Anker but I didn't get it for $7.99. That's a great deal. I have 2 of them and they host last a fair amount of time.
I just ordered this external battery you might like something like this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y4VTJU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
My shopping research pointed me out that this would be best for me because:
1. Pocket size battery perfect for on the go to.... anywhere!
2. Charge it in the wall with your htc charger instead of camping by an outlet with your phone if you need to be on it.
3. 5600mAh battery (should charge the amaze about 3 times)
4. Higher voltage (in amps) for faster charging than many other external batteries... I recently bought another external battery off ebay that doesnt even output enought power to charge my phone on standby becareful about this!
There were many others on amazon by anker and powergen, that are I guess name brand?? who have 100-300+ count of customer reviews if thats what you are looking for, I decided to try this brand because it was the best price for the value... Ill let you know how it is when I get it in the mail if you'd like
If you choose to go with this brand check the dimensions they have different width x length x heights for the same size mAh battery (this is the slimmest but longest one of the 5600 mAh) and check the picture for a micro usb port some of their descriptions will say they do but then have a MINI usb port!!
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I just ordered this external battery you might like something like this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y4VTJU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
My shopping research pointed me out that this would be best for me because:
1. Pocket size battery perfect for on the go to.... anywhere!
2. Charge it in the wall with your htc charger instead of camping by an outlet with your phone if you need to be on it.
3. 5600mAh battery (should charge the amaze about 3 times)
4. Higher voltage (in amps) for faster charging than many other external batteries... I recently bought another external battery off ebay that doesnt even output enought power to charge my phone on standby becareful about this!
There were many others on amazon by anker and powergen, that are I guess name brand?? who have 100-300+ count of customer reviews if thats what you are looking for, I decided to try this brand because it was the best price for the value... Ill let you know how it is when I get it in the mail if you'd like
If you choose to go with this brand check the dimensions they have different width x length x heights for the same size mAh battery (this is the slimmest but longest one of the 5600 mAh) and check the picture for a micro usb port some of their descriptions will say they do but then have a MINI usb port!!
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Anker is a trusted brand as is Mungen. I don't know about any of the others. I'd be suspicious of any battery that was that cheap and suspect it to be a fake. High-quality batteries will usually cost 15-20 at least.
5600 mAH is the charge it holds but the efficiency will always make the effective charging power less. Depending on the native voltage/amps of the device, you will lose anywhere from 20-40% off the maximum rating from things like heat.
Higher voltage in amps will also shorten your battery's lifespan. Not by much but that's the tradeoff you get for the convenience.
I just have 2 anker batteries I switch out constantly on my amaze. If I'm stuck somewhere, my Amaze will be heavily used and it only lasts about 4 hours under heavy use with my Anker. It's good to have another one and another battery is less bulky than most chargers.
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Anker is a trusted brand as is Mungen. I don't know about any of the others. I'd be suspicious of any battery that was that cheap and suspect it to be a fake. High-quality batteries will usually cost 15-20 at least.
5600 mAH is the charge it holds but the efficiency will always make the effective charging power less. Depending on the native voltage/amps of the device, you will lose anywhere from 20-40% off the maximum rating from things like heat.
Higher voltage in amps will also shorten your battery's lifespan. Not by much but that's the tradeoff you get for the convenience.
I just have 2 anker batteries I switch out constantly on my amaze. If I'm stuck somewhere, my Amaze will be heavily used and it only lasts about 4 hours under heavy use with my Anker. It's good to have another one and another battery is less bulky than most chargers.
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Just got my ezo battery today it works great, solo charging is almost as fast as the wall charge and I can charge 2 devices at once.
I'm using an "EC" brand 1900mAH battery that I bought for 7.99 in July of this year right after I got my AMAZE4G. I bought it on Amazon.com, and yesmin my experience it does last longer than the OEM battery. I have no idea how much longer it will last, but so far, so good.
Got my second Prime, after having to send back the first one. But this time the charger was defective. I have been able to charge it a bit by using the USB on the PC, so-called trickle charge, but I did not charge it properly before first time use (the eight hours recommended). The tablet was slightly used, slightly charged, slightly used and charged to exactly 100% through computer's USB. The dock won't trickle charge at all and has now 0% power.
I can send in the charger back and receive a new, but this will take one to two weeks. So I won't be able to charge the dock at all in a couple of weeks and it will be stored with 0 % battery power. The tablet would have to do with the trickle charge.
I then wonder how damaging this could be the battery? I do not want to take any chances and end up with a crappy battery after a year or two. I have read a lot on the internet, but people are very inconsistent about whether a Li-ion battery will be damaged without proper first time charging or not, and lying around for a couple of weeks with zero battery power.
Thanks in advance!
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Got my second Prime, after having to send back the first one. But this time the charger was defective. I have been able to charge it a bit by using the USB on the PC, so-called trickle charge, but I did not charge it properly before first time use (the eight hours recommended). The tablet was slightly used, slightly charged, slightly used and charged to exactly 100% through computer's USB. The dock won't trickle charge at all and has now 0% power.
I can send in the charger back and receive a new, but this will take one to two weeks. So I won't be able to charge the dock at all in a couple of weeks and it will be stored with 0 % battery power. The tablet would have to do with the trickle charge.
I then wonder how damaging this could be the battery? I do not want to take any chances and end up with a crappy battery after a year or two. I have read a lot on the internet, but people are very inconsistent about whether a Li-ion battery will be damaged without proper first time charging or not, and lying around for a couple of weeks with zero battery power.
Thanks in advance!
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Before sending the charger in try putting in a plastic bag and place it in the freezer for about 20 minutes. Get as much air out of the bag as possible. It could be the chargers safety has been tripped and its stuck.
they recommended the battery be fully charged up when first recieced. they say 8hrs. but that's way too long. only takes about 2 hrs. for battery to fully charge through its power plug. once fully charged battery will need To go through a few complete cycles(from 100% to 0% or close) before the battery is properly calibrated and optimized.
I wouldn't think trickle charging the prime will hurt anything as long as you still going through cycles. if you only can trickle charge right now, might be best not to let prime go completely dead. just charge once its low or whenever not in use. how long did it take to charge battery completely up through trickle charge?
As far as I know trickle charge is even better for Lithium batteries, and provides longer battery times and less wear-and-tear on the battery.
Tried the freezer. It would charge for a couple of minutes, then stop again. But it gets pretty hot, so I would thinks it's overheating.
Don't know how long the trickle charge takes. I charged it for maybe four hours from 60 %, but don't know when the charge was complete.
And as I said, I used the prime for a bit, turning it on and off, tryinging to get the charging to work. I first charged it completely after 2 days. And the dock got dischared at once since connected it to the tablet at once, and left it for 8 hours because I thought it was charging. Haven't been able to charge the dock since...
Trickle charging is actually better for your devices than charging with a rapid charger. It both prolongs the overall life of the battery and can lead to "deeper" charging where the batter actually ends up with a slightly higher stored charge which would give you slightly longer battery life.
As for the charger, if you live near an OfficeDepot they might have some in-store so you can pick up a replacement for around $30. You can also get them online from the OfficeDepot website: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/768723/ASUS-Power-Adapter-For-Eee-Pad/
Even if you get your charger back from RMA, it is good to have a spare charger lying around!
For those of you who have the wireless charger. Do you notice a significant battery life shortage when you charge the phone using the wireless charger? Ever since I use the wireless charger, the battery life doesn't seem to last as long as charging the phone using the traditional route.
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For those of you who have the wireless charger. Do you notice a significant battery life shortage when you charge the phone using the wireless charger? Ever since I use the wireless charger, the battery life doesn't seem to last as long as charging the phone using the traditional route.
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I just got mines today from AT&T. Will keep an eye on how it last and let ya know.
I've been using the charging stand for a week or so and haven't noticed any difference.
I've been using mine for over a week, and I've noticed the phone charges faster than with the USB cable (to the wall outlet), and the battery charge seems to last just as long... maybe you have a bad battery?
also, I found this on wikipedia about the qi standard: "Regulation of the output voltage is provided by a digital control loop where the power receiver [phone] communicates with the power transmitter[charger] and requests more or less power. "
I have a thin plastic case. Do I need to take the case of to charge the phone? want to know before I buy
I've actually seen a slight improvement when using the charging plate. Through my typical usage during the day (7 a.m. through 6 p.m.) I was coming home with 50% battery. Now, I'm coming home with about 70%.
Don't be too impressed though. I don't use push on anything at all, and I don't use any kind of social media.
I'm betting you have a defective unit. My first 920 did exactly this. I would set in on the plate, take note of the battery percentage, take a 10 minute shower, come back, and the percentage jumped from 88% to 100%. There's no way it could charge that fast. Not even the USB cable can charge it that quickly and that charges at a higher amperage and voltage than the plate. Sometimes I saw it jumping from 95% to 100% in a matter of seconds. So I called AT&T and after countless hours of talking with employees that knew nothing, I finally was put on to someone who helped me get the phone exchanged. My new 920 does not have this problem and a full charge on the plate lasts just as long as on the plug. My first 920 barely made it 8 hours with normal use (texting mostly). My new 920 makes it past my 8 hour shift with 75% to spare.
Had to replace mine. White light on the plate came on but no response on phone. Wireless charging coil was faulty... Inductive charging failed and that sucks... It wasn't a bad flaw but when I spend 450 I want a functioning device. Now, I have it.
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I'm betting you have a defective unit. My first 920 did exactly this. I would set in on the plate, take note of the battery percentage, take a 10 minute shower, come back, and the percentage jumped from 88% to 100%. There's no way it could charge that fast. Not even the USB cable can charge it that quickly and that charges at a higher amperage and voltage than the plate. Sometimes I saw it jumping from 95% to 100% in a matter of seconds. So I called AT&T and after countless hours of talking with employees that knew nothing, I finally was put on to someone who helped me get the phone exchanged. My new 920 does not have this problem and a full charge on the plate lasts just as long as on the plug. My first 920 barely made it 8 hours with normal use (texting mostly). My new 920 makes it past my 8 hour shift with 75% to spare.
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Hmmm, I will have to call AT&T for the warranty exchange. Thanks
Hello guys... I'm having a major problem with my battery not taking a charge or just being stubborn.
I used multiple chargers and the phone refuses to charge. It discharges even though it says it's charging and it mounts via USB with no issues and data transfer is faster than ever. I have the OEM stock and the Laza extended battery but the Laza takes much too long and the stock battery won't come back at all because the charger kills it...
This started when I left my extended battery on the charger overnight and it was at maybe 30%. I woke up and it was dead; it wasn't responding to anything unless I pulled the battery and it gave me the blinking orange LED. Any ideas?
*phone was dropped once but a WHILE ago
did nothing special and it was charging great 3 days ago
charging while powered down actually kills the battery FASTER
I'd appreciate any help.
Have the same issue. I believe my USB port is coming loose from the board and needs repair or replacement. I tried physically bending bits of the port with the battery removed to mixed success short-term, but now I have trouble just getting data to connect over the cable. Could try to work around the issue by buying a couple of wall chargers for just the battery pack, then circulate between two or three batteries through the day. Used Battery Monitor Widget app to see my device can eat 500 to 1,000 mA an hour, so I got two 500 mAh chargers and spare batteries to keep pace with max drain rate.
Okay, thanks for the recommendation! My Droid MAXX has arrived but my battery is actually doing pretty well right now. It decided to charge overnight but still no luck with the stock. But I still want to use this phone to test ROMs, and it's difficult to do so with the discharged battery. Anyways thanks a lot, I will look into this. Or maybe I could buy another Rezound for cheap or a Thunderbolt (if it works).