Hey all, I have read up alot about debranding my HTC to get 2.2 and am just about to start tonight. I am about to create the "gold card" but am wondering on what SD card should i do it on.
I have a 4GB that came with the phone and the new 16GB that I use on the phone. can I use the 4gb to create a gold card. Upgrade the phone and then just stick in my old 16gb with all my info on it?
Also was looking to see if anyone know how/if you can keep all the apps you downloaded doing this sort of upgrade.
Cheers
ROy#
I used the stock card that came with the phone, I didn't erase any data, when making the gold card all you do is write a tiny bit of info to the boot sector of that card, it does not touch the rest of the data. All my photos, mp3s and apps remained in place.
I did lose texts and contacts from phone but that's an issue with froyo i think not recognising the backup file I made in 2.1. Everything else worked fine. The apps I backed up to card and just reinstalled using appmonster. Contacts were 90% on SIM as well just not as nicely linked etc as the phone memory so I had to move them over and relink. Not a big deal just annoying.
At the moment I have LauncherPro running the home screens, but with sense still running somehow I have not lost the pinch function (I think that is a HTC sense specific thing), still have the sense screen lock but everything else on home screens and app screens is launcherpro which looks much nicer. I can still swap back to senseUI with all the widgets etc in a couple of clicks and it even remembers my settings so it's great.
I installed adw and also the stock android launcher (does not recognise the phone dialler from homescreen shortcut so stopped using). The stock android wallpaper is not in o2 2.1. or 2.2 unbranded from HTC so adding back the launcher gave me extra wallpapers too.
One thing to remember: if you want to install any OTA updates you need the goldcard in.
If you don't it can lead to things like the wi-fi not working, FC's, etc.
I got OTA update after I reflashed, but I think that was an EU update and the RUU already flashed froyo unbranded.
One thing I do not want to happen is the phone pulls down an OTA o2 update rather than a stock HTC and rebrands it, but I guess that is impossible?
I am also wondering can I root 2.2 now and put on the engineering bootloader to allow me to use nandroid for backing up, or does the 2.2 bootloader now resist such interference?
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Ok so I have been on the phone all afternoon with verizon tech support and HTC support and i have gotten no where I apologize if this problem has been solved b4 i did extensive searches with no luck so here goes.
MY Stock Unrooted Thunderbolt is losing site of the apps that have been moved to my sd card on boot. So basically i have a majority of my apps on my tbolt saved to sd card to save space on the actual phone. Some of the apps were moved manually through the applications and others were moved using ZDbox as they were installed and moved. My phone has been this way for sometime with no problem. Now about 3 days ago my phone was acting really slow and just not working properly showing signs it needed to be rebooted so i rebooted it and once done booting i went to my apps and found several of the apps missing from my app drawer as well as the shortcuts on home screens. So verizon referred me to HTC who is blaming it on ZDbox they claim zdbox corrupted the app files somehow when it moved it to the sd card and if i uninstalled that they claim the problem should be solved. However I cant remove ZDBox due to my sd card not showing up that program seems to still be on the phone its self so it should be able to uninstall it but it just locks up when i try
now i could go on and on and on with what i have done but i was hopeing someone here maybe had a similar situation or knew of a way to fix this problem. I have the SD card backed up and all the app files are showing in the location they are suppose to be in but i just cant understand what would cause his problem.
ANY help would be great and i hope im not coming off as a noob i have been troubleshooting this for several days and do consider my self to be knowledgeable in this area but i have surpassed my experience with no luck and I am here hoeping someone out there has an idea !!!!
thanks again in advance
oh ya almost forgot verizon claimed a htc rep told them its a known problem and to just keep powercycling the phone and eventually it will see the apps but i never got them to say that to me they wanted to point straight to the third party app zdbox even after i told them not all the apps were moved by that app.
I was having a similar problem with my stock vzw galaxy tab I factory reset it and reinstalled only a select applications and seemed to solve it but i dont think i have that many apps on my tbolt (i had over 150 on my tab)
sounds like you have corruption on your sd card. I would pull it out of the phone, connect it to a pc and run a scandisk on it and let it correct any errors. Then I would back it up to the pc. After this I would put it back into the phone and see if the apps show up. If not, I would hound verizon or htc for a new sd card or new phone, their choice.
A friend of mine had the same issue and the only solution was to get rid of zdbox. The issue is:
The phone is not rooted and apps that get moved to the memory card that do not allow it natively will not show up (usually after a reboot) because the original location is not available when the phone or app looks for it.
To move them properly even most apps not meant to move, you have to root.
He also wound up having to reformat the sd card.
I would say to try the suggestion above and maybe you will have luck that way but my friend had to just leave the apps that dont move to sd on the phone. He still wont root even after he sees my phone and loves the things I can do with it.
Not sure why people are obsessed with moving Apps to the SD card. I put games on there but otherwise all the rest of my 100+ Apps are on the phone and I still have 1.7gb of free phone space.
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have you tried doing an sd card rescan?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bero.sdrescan
So if you are moving all of your apps to your SD card, what are you actually using your internal storage space for? I think doing that on a phone like the Thunderbolt isn't usually worth it. Combined with the problems moving the apps can cause, there really isn't much point to it.
Does anyone know how to get around the limit of installing no more than 123 apps to SD? I have a Samsung Epic. I can install more than that to SD but when I reboot my phone doesn't see the apps on the SD card and it slows down and becomes unusable. I know I can move some to the phone, but I don't want to do that. I have tried different Froyo and Gingerbread roms. Is there any way to up the limit past 123? Thanks.
I can honestly say that I do not have this issue.
I have an Epic 4G Touch, and currently have 202 apps on my SD card with no issues.
I am currently running the Stock ROM.
Are you on Gingerbread? Is your phone rooted? I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps.
Running GB, 2.3.4
Rooted
I also use TB, but everything on there now is a fresh install.
Feel free to use me to help narrow down some of the possibilities for why yours isn't working...
I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
cbanks3 said:
I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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When I say everything on is a fresh install, I mean that I'm re-downloading and installing everything in very small batches, rather than using what I had backed up. After I get something down, and verify that it is working, I back it up.
The reason for this is that I kept getting my phone stuck in a bootloop, and couldn't figure out what was causing it. So I decided that it was almost as easy to re-download everything as it was to restore from backup, since I was pretty much doing it all one app at a time.
AppBrain has made that easier than I expected, though it hasn't relieved any of the tedium.
This may be an absurd question, but after you have broken the 123 barrier and rebooted, have you let your phone sit undisturbed for a while so that everything has a chance to catch up?
I know that as the amount of apps on my SD increases, the time from boot until the phone is "usable" increases as well. I've gotten around this by using Tasker to reboot the phone about fifteen minutes or so before I wake in the morning. That way, no matter if it takes two minutes or ten, it has plenty of time.
Also, have you tried completely busting the 123 barrier? Perhaps jumping straight to 150 or something would make a difference.
Googling for a brief bit only finds a couple of references to there being a limit on the number of apps, but that was supposedly resolved after Froyo.
Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
cbanks3 said:
Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Do you have the same problem using different SD cards?
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Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
cbanks3 said:
Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
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Some ROMs (like Cyanogenmod) let you move apps to the SD after installing on internal. You might try moving an app doing that and see if that breaks your barrier.
Also, try using that SD formatter for windows that Samsung or Panasonic make. A Google search will turn it up.
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I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue.
I've already tried using the card the way it came, I've formatted with Windows, I've formatted with CWM, I'm not so sure that using SD formatter will make much difference.
I have already tried moving apps to SD with the built-in app to sd functionality and it still causes problems when I get above 123 apps.
money11ez said: "I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue."
I don't have a class 10 sd card sitting around, so I can't try that. Why would the speed of the card affect how many apps can run off it?
What do you mean try a firmware update? I've tried the stock rom, and many custom froyo (ec05) and gb (ei22) roms and the problem still happens.
the faster the card the more bandwidth it has, so it can access more things at any given time.
Small question: Do you really use all of those apps?
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Epic 4G Move App to SD card limit
HI
I am experiencing the same problem with my EPIC 4G on a Gingerbread ROM. I have tried multiple times with different kernels to work with more than 150 apps on the SD card.
They all move over fine, but on the first reboot the phone fails to find them and goes in to a reproducible loop where it starts up, works very slowly for 2 minutes, then gives a haptic feedback buzz as it reboots, over and over for days.
I know the limit is between 84 and 150 apps on the SD card because I have a working backup image with 84 apps moved over. My experience has been that around the 120+ mark, it just goes very bad very quickly.
If you don't mind my asking, how do you know the limit is 123?
Colin
So after a month of owning the View, I decided to try Honeycomb. I used globatron's process, as I am S-Off (HBOOT 6.12.1002, if memory serves, if that makes any difference). (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409306)
The process completed flawlessly, but the tablet was SO SLOW. I know it's not the end-all of performance metrics, but with Gingerbread, Linpack scores were in the mid 50's; with Honeycomb, they topped out in the low 20's (my EVO 4G does high 30's and is underclocked to 921MHz). Apps and menus would take more than a second to load. Some apps didn't even work - YouTube would force close if I tried watching a video (and when I searched for YouTube in the market, in hopes of an update, it didn't even show up!); the gallery didn't recognize a single picture that I had stored on the device, except for the ones in the camera's own folder. It also drained a LOT of battery in a short amount of time.
I searched for Honeycomb issues, but I found nothing reporting these kinds of problems. I've since gone back to Gingerbread so that it's useable (and thanks to the Nandroid, it's like I never tried HC), but what the hell was wrong with my Honeycomb install?
Furthermore, my girlfriend's View was laggy when she did the OTA to Honeycomb, and she had me downgrade her back to Gingerbread only a couple days later. The rave reviews of HC on the View just have me wondering "why not me?!" Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
did you clean install?
Can you clarify what you mean by "clean install"? I've not heard that terminology before...
I meant wipe/hard factory reset and wipe cache, that's what I usually do before flashing. I suggest try to flash other HC Rom like leedroid and see if you will get improvements.
I wiped data and cache before starting the process. Perhaps I'll try again with a different ROM, but I figured the stock ROM should've worked smoothly.
Yes very
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Try this rom. Solved all my speed issues with HC. You'll love it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416868
Makes View just like typical HC tablet. Browser is MUCH better.
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^ I'll give it a shot tonight, thanks!
To be honest, I couldn't quite figure out what the benefit of Sense on HC was... I've used my friend's Xoom briefly, and saw no functional differences. I suppose probably widgets, given that that's where most of the benefits of Sense are.
I'll post results once I'm able to evaluate.
Thanks again!
Flashed it last night. Had to flash it twice because the first time it absolutely would not maintain a wifi connection (not even long enough for me to get an IP address and switch to static IP).
Seemed smooth (low-30's MFLOPS), but the G-sensor (or accelerometer) was a bit jittery - games like SpeedX 3D were all over the place, and the holographic images in the gallery were shaking. Had me worried I was developing Parkinson's.
Of more pressing importance, I couldn't access any multimedia stored in a folder other than DCIM from the Gallery app, and couldn't even open images through a file explorer. Flashed back to stock Gingerbread so it's usable while I investigate.
Frustrating that I just can't get Honeycomb to work properly on this damn thing. lol
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Of more pressing importance, I couldn't access any multimedia stored in a folder other than DCIM from the Gallery app, and couldn't even open images through a file explorer. Flashed back to stock Gingerbread so it's usable while I investigate.
Frustrating that I just can't get Honeycomb to work properly on this damn thing. lol
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There's a fix for getting the system to rescan your memory cards; I'll look in a bit and see if I can't post it here. As for HC working properly, I love it. The de-Sensed HC was a thing of beauty. If I can lay my hands on a De-Sensed version of LeeDroid's work I'd be in heaven. The standard HC interface was clearly created in response to Sense's user-friendliness, and they came up with a superior product.
I looked around, but never saw a definitive answer... most of what I saw was "clear cache!" or "clear data!" but those didn't work for me. When my girlfriend's had the problem (while on Gingerbread), opening the image in ES File Explorer and choosing Gallery as the default app for those file types usually corrected it.
And I do like Honeycomb, and love the ability to resize widgets, I just need it stable and fully functional before I'm comfortable sticking with it. My work phone is a Galaxy Nexus, and I LOVE ICS, but Honeycomb is damn close in style and functionality.
I can't find the posting I saw, but it essentially was to create a directory of a certain name on the card, and that forced the Flyer to re-scan the entire card, graphics and all. Evidently something akin to a thumbnail cache can get corrupted and that causes this issue, and creating that directory forces that file to be recreated entirely. I'm still kinda new to Android, so I don't know where the nomenclature diverges from Intel-based storage management...
Thanks for taking the time to look around. I found this, but it says it's for the Music folder... perhaps I should try the same in the Pictures folder.
That directory name looks very familiar, but you're right, it's for music, not graphics. It might work for you, what's the worst that can happen?
The other thing that occurred to me is to swap the micro-SD card with another one. Placing a new card in forces "stuff" to kick in, and I'd imagine the process needs to repeat once to replace the old card back in the slow. Or at least a portion of the process to see if it "knows" that old card when you put it back in.
The content is stored in the internal memory - not on an external SD card (I only use the external card for Nandroid backups and things of the like). That's what's so baffling to me - it's the View's own non-removable memory that isn't being scanned for pictures and videos.
Not only wipe data and cache, but also format system, wipe dalvik in recovery when doing a fresh rom install for best results.
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So, I just want to say that I am legitimately really pissed right now, so sorry if I sound like I'm raging. I was running my flyer on GB when I first got it and the SD card read media fine. I upgraded to HC, and all was well at first. Then, it randomly stopped reading any of my media. I wiped SD, cleared caches, tried actually ALL the ROMs, and every suggestion I could find. I downgraded to GB, and everything worked again. Just upgraded back to HC, and absolutely nothing is read again. I'm on Virtuous right now. I am so angry, as I HATE gingerbread, but since I have a WiFi Flyer, I HAVE to use SD card music. AUGH. I want to punch someone.
Just a suggestion (and don't be angry at me ): try another sdcard, I know yours is working with GB but I found out sometimes a cable or a little piece of hardware can be tricky and behave oddly.
I already tried the SD from my Inc2. No dice. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
Too bad, but don't loose hope for Noob's Guide #7
LOL. If I make any more, then I have to make a directory thread, because my sig is like 5 characters away from being full. I can't even write that I have the OG Sammy Gtab.
i was having problems with the HTC gallery app on my wifi flyer after HC upgrade. Installed the stock HC gallery, and havent had an issue since.
I use mVideo player too, and that always finds things on my SD card straight away.
In regards to music, try the PlayerPro free trial and see if that is any better. I've used it on my S2 for a while now and it's great.
I think the issue is to do with the way the HTC apps interact with the storage. Its like it has the index of the SD card set to refresh only on a certain action, but I'm as yet to discover what that is.
Also, try running the flyer without the 'fast boot' mode on in power settings.
I never use fastboot mode. I have been mounting and unmounting as well as rebooting and have been rewarded with nothing but Media force closes.
Hey AgalychnisCallidryas
Off-topic, to change your mood
I found this, I think you need another avatar http://abowman.com/google-modules/tree-frog/#gadgetSWF
I have already experienced a similar issue using HC ROMs ( Stock/Cooked ), and it was one of the main reasons I reverted back to GB ROMs, see me post HERE and HERE.
a member mentioned a solution HERE, but I haven't tried it...
i can confirm the above fix works for the HTC stock apps.
Yeah, well, I already had seen and tried that, and no dice. Thanks for the help though. I really want to use stock music, but I'm using PowerAmp for now, which seems to work fine.
Hey, all.
This isn't a real big deal but it's annoying.
My S5 (SM-G900T) is rooted and has been since about two months after I bought it new.
It's running on stock everything 6.0.1
Baseband G900TUVU1GQC2
Kernel 3.4.0-7500527
A couple months ago I had to do a factory reset as well as flash a new stock OS because it set itself in Emergency mode and wouldn't open. Oh, and I really rooted using Odin on a PC.
Ever since that happened a lot of my third party apps, that I want and have installed in my external SD card don't stay there. Always after a reboot or restart. I'm pretty sure they aren't or can't move any other time on there own.
Its really annoying because they are my largest apps (of course) and my internal memory has only a couple of G's of memory left and when these apps jump ships my phone won't let me download anything etc....
Its my backup phone so its not crucial but, driving me nuts.
How can I keep the apps where I want them? I've used ROM Manager to direct apps to the external SD card by force and obviously it's not helping, even on new installs it doesn't force to the external SD like it should. That's another topic for another place.
Some help would be really cool and much appreciated
Thanks
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