can we do like moto Droid ?? - XPERIA X10 Android Development

hi evry body ,,,,,,
i have i qustion :
the moto droid bootloder is closd by moto but they can but custom roms
why we cann`t do like them ??
and sorry for my week Eng​

Because the two phones aren't the same. There are multiple ways to lock your house.
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i am not say we should use moto roms !
i mean roms without boutloder

Ahmed radi said:
i am not say we should use moto roms !
i mean roms without boutloder
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Phones are COMPLETELY different. The lock on your house on the front and backdoor both look the same but they have different keys to open them. Same thing here. You can't expect the xperia to do something just because the moto droid can.

I think they want to explain that bootloaders are being locked in different ways. So, it doesn't mean that if one bootloaders is hacked all bootloaders are hacked... That's why doors are an example, because if you've got a key it doesn't mean that you can open every door in the world!
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djsikhbeatsz said:
Phones are COMPLETELY different. The lock on your house on the front and backdoor both look the same but they have different keys to open them. Same thing here. You can't expect the xperia to do something just because the moto droid can.
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My backdoor and front locks with the same key and they don't look the same
Just sayin
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brat81 said:
My backdoor and front locks with the same key and they don't look the same
Just sayin
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That's a good one!

all of you copied my analogy :/

kr3w1337 said:
all of you copied my analogy :/
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You should be proud!

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five touch !!

Can any developers port this 5touch support to our phone ???
i have seen video from youtube in XDA forum...5touch is support in SAMSUNG GALAXY3 !!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129367
i wish someone should port this kernel to our optim one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jprk0Ca8ZfY&feature=player_embedded
hey dont take this s spam as you guys always do... so im just asking developers in this General section...
kindly note... : im a newbie to this OPTIMUS ONE !! before i had Samsung Galaxy5
u do it
cuz all tried and failed because p500 has hardware limit
samcad said:
Can any developers port this 5touch support to our phone ???
i have seen video from youtube in XDA forum...5touch is support in SAMSUNG GALAXY3 !!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129367
i wish someone should port this kernel to our optim one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jprk0Ca8ZfY&feature=player_embedded
hey dont take this s spam as you guys always do... so im just asking developers in this General section...
kindly note... : im a newbie to this OPTIMUS ONE !! before i had Samsung Galaxy5
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it is impossible for three reasons:
1) our hardware supports only two touches while g5 hardware has three touches and probably support more touches
2) samsung galaxy 3 does not have inversion axis problem our phone yes and this
is a hardware problem. even if we can port it it will be a shame on the screen.
3) we can't acces the melfas firmware to modify the problem
ccdreadcc said:
u do it
cuz all tried and failed because p500 has hardware limit
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Ooohhh now I understood!! Hehe I can't ;(
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lupohirp said:
it is impossible for three reasons:
1) our hardware supports only two touches while g5 hardware has three touches and probably support more touches
2) samsung galaxy 3 does not have inversion axis problem our phone yes and this
is a hardware problem. even if we can port it it will be a shame on the screen.
3) we can't acces the melfas firmware to modify the problem
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Okie thanks for the info given bad luck
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If you need the whole display covered and invisible, just place a book on it or something. What on earth would be the use for 5 touch on this tiny screen?
dr.notor said:
If you need the whole display covered and invisible, just place a book on it or something. What on earth would be the use for 5 touch on this tiny screen?
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Nice one.
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dr.notor said:
If you need the whole display covered and invisible, just place a book on it or something. What on earth would be the use for 5 touch on this tiny screen?
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What a joke??? wow I will laugh tommorrow.. today no time
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Hes saying that our screen is.too small to use it anyway without blocking our.view of the screen
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teddybig said:
Hes saying that our screen is.too small to use it anyway without blocking our.view of the screen
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He is telling our screen is small but galaxy3 also as a small screen same like us!!!
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samcad said:
He is telling our screen is small but galaxy3 also as a small screen same like us!!!
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And? Could you explain to us what is the use for 5touch when the whole screen is covered by your hand?
dr.notor said:
And? Could you explain to us what is the use for 5touch when the whole screen is covered by your hand?
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Better to port it... So in games, u have multitouch... Like nova needed 3 touch...
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dax4182 said:
Better to port it... So in games, u have multitouch... Like nova needed 3 touch...
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Thanks for "explanation". Gaming experience with invisible display must indeed be excellent.
Bye.
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Thanks for "explanation". Gaming experience with invisible display must indeed be excellent.
Bye.
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Invisble display?
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Invisble display?
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If you put 5 fingers on your display, you still see anything on the screen?
You folks are really so dense or just pretend it?
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dr.notor said:
If you put 5 fingers on your display, you still see anything on the screen?
You folks are really so dense or just pretend it?
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Not really has to be 5 fingers on the phone... Woah! If 5 fingers playin nova, i tink is game over alr...
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To end this pointless debate - the hardware supports dual touch and that is it. It is enough for sane people. If you are an ET and can control the phone with this small screen with more fingers, go port the HW - buy another phone and stop bugging here with nonsensical requests.
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To end this pointless debate - the hardware supports dual touch and that is it. It is enough for sane people. If you are an ET and can control the phone with this small screen with more fingers, go port the HW - buy another phone and stop bugging here with nonsensical requests.
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Ok brother, calm down... Im jus only suggesting...
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we can live without it anyway way should we need 5 touch when we have problems with 2 touch..
alex1cfc said:
we can live without it anyway way should we need 5 touch when we have problems with 2 touch..
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Probably b/c more touch must be t3h better, bigger numbers are always better, no!?
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There are OTAs and there are Fastboot files...WHY NO ROMs?

HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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onslaught86 said:
Fastboot files ARE stock ROMs.
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Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
circleofomega said:
Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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Just use RSD LITE to flash them.
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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joshw0000 said:
There's no roms because you haven't written them yet. Get to work!
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LOL!! Ok...
circleofomega said:
HEy all..
there are tons of leaks out there, but not one single ROM. have asked many people but no one seems interested. Anyways, There are OTAs and there are fastboot files everywhere..but not one single stock ROM that I can flash through CMW of the asia or EU build?
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What is the point of making a flashable stock rom?
But you might dont search, because there is 2 or 3 stock rom deodexed flashable through CWM by matt or frasertag, and i'm working on flashable asia.
Anyway, we don't have lot of rom because lockedbootloader make dev flee away.
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Can I flash them through SD Card? NO.
Then how can u say they ARE ROMs?
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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Locked bootloader....
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eyriiii said:
Locked bootloader....
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2 words said it all..
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vash_h said:
2 words said it all..
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Still a decent phone thou but it could have been better...lets see how long moto will hold back with the unlock tool until google comes in and rape them
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How on earth does the ability to flash from the SD dictate what is and isn't a ROM? You couldn't flash Samsung stock builds from SD until Chainfire built Mobile Odin, does that mean those weren't ROMs before the app was released?
You can update a fastboot-flashed stock build using an OTA zip from the SD card if you really want to. Most Android device manufacturers do things differently, this just happens to be Moto's way.
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This is the answer to the OP
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Locked bootloader....
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Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
farhanito said:
This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
eyriiii said:
unlocked bootloader=custom kernels=more development
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Such as?
farhanito said:
Such as?
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Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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onslaught86 said:
Custom kernels really are the heart of development, unfortunately - different modules for new features, different CPU governors for better battery life & performance, optimisations and more. It's one of those things that needs to be experienced to appreciate.
Was key to my initial experiences with Android as I came to it from the HD2, which was by nature a custom job. Experimented with Motorola devices for six months, back with Samsung now - although I miss the build materials, the development is a breath of fresh air.
Hope Moto make a Nexus device, it's their only shot at regaining the attention of the development community that they lost when they locked down everything after the original Droid.
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Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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farhanito said:
This is the answer to the OP
Well, I haven't had any experience with unlockable device before this, so I haven't seen any advantage being so... (except maybe ability to go back to GB)
But look at BootMenu... and MIUI...
Both gave me -almost- completely different experience with my razr.
I'm eager to see what unlocked BL or -so called- kexec would bring, yes, but I'm not missing them at all right now.
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Changin a kernel could improve the phone experience drastically. A better kernel coul improve the battery life AND the performance, The first time i changed the kernel on my nexus one i was astonished, it was overclocked and it halved my consumption (i took the half of the usual % during the same usage) and the phone was smoother too.
You can't know the difference until you feel them ^^
I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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Not locked completely. Xoom and I believe the Atrix are unlocked. But I agree, unlocked bootloaders on current devices would be great.
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Xoom is pure google device and Moto cannot lock it, I own one and its one of the best tablets out there but regarding the Atrix someone release "sbf" with unlocked bootloader by mistake (I think from Motorola) and now they have unlocked BL.
There is slightly hope for us to get the BL unlocked if Google starts to change things around in Motorola...and imo they need to do it fast.
Sp_Ark said:
I know nothing about programming, cooking roms etc. for sure with unlocked bootloader things would have been easier, but take a look at moto defy dev section. Froyo kernel and quarx and epsylon ported months ago cm9 and now with hwa with no official libs and drivers. And the first jb cm10 is already out from quarx. And all that with locked bootloader. The razr cdma roms as i read are very nice. So the problem is with our gms razr. Its all about devs.
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This.
We already got modules... and governors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754888
And our CDMA friends have CM9/AOKP ports... (which were patchable in GB era).
But, yeah.. Me too know nothing about bootloader, kernel, etc.

will you be able to flash nexus 4 roms?

just wondering like get straight vanilla on this? if so this is def a huge upgrade form my s3 lol
HRodMusic said:
just wondering like get straight vanilla on this? if so this is def a huge upgrade form my s3 lol
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We won't know until there are roms for the nexus and until the optimus boot loader is unlocked.
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xboxfanj said:
We won't know until there are roms for the nexus and until the optimus boot loader is unlocked.
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the specs seem identical, im hoping we could just flash straight vanilla on this lol
HRodMusic said:
the specs seem identical, im hoping we could just flash straight vanilla on this lol
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For the sprint version, there'll need to be some changes for cdma
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xboxfanj said:
For the sprint version, there'll need to be some changes for cdma
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Wouldn't there need to be the addition of LTE connection code for the models with that capability? Seems like its not completely straight forward, but also not as extensive as the modifications that were required for some devices in the past.
The bootloader is a huge issue. From reading other LG blogs, LG doesn't unlock them and finding a work around hasn't been easy.
dbgeek said:
Wouldn't there need to be the addition of LTE connection code for the models with that capability? Seems like its not completely straight forward, but also not as extensive as the modifications that were required for some devices in the past.
The bootloader is a huge issue. From reading other LG blogs, LG doesn't unlock them and finding a work around hasn't been easy.
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There's a chance we could use the Nexus Bootloader. It is risky though and could result in a brick. But yeah, there will need to be some LTE code.
xboxfanj said:
there's a chance we could use the nexus bootloader. It is risky though and could result in a brick. But yeah, there will need to be some lte code.
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all in! Cuz i only use hspa+
awesomehacker said:
all in! Cuz i only use hspa+
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While I'd be fine with HSPA+ as the top end data connection, I'd still like to have LTE, if these brilliant minds can add it in :silly: I'm guessing that if they can figure out the bootloader, then we can have what ever our devices will support.
Bootloader is unlocked, only a matter of time before devs start porting over roms from the nexus 4
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[Q] One click Root?

I found this website http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/htc-droid-dna/ I was wondering if it is a scam. Has anyone seen this?
I wonder if this works with the new OTA update. It would be sweet if it did.
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Anyone willing to try this? I'm curious as to how it works considering the only methods out there right now require getting superCID then using HTV Dev to get the unlock code and the former no longer works...
Also:
The Droid DNA is also plagued by a battery efficiency problem.
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what battery efficiency problem?
I am tempted but don't have any phone insurance in case I brick
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vargo911 said:
I found this website http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/htc-droid-dna/ I was wondering if it is a scam. Has anyone seen this?
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I would just follow the guilds here on XDA true tested and tried by many
dongatta said:
I am tempted but don't have any phone insurance in case I brick
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Insurance is for breaking, not bricking. Just sayin'.
trickster2369 said:
Insurance is for breaking, not bricking. Just sayin'.
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Ok. I don't want to brick my device. Insurance or not
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Have fun getting a virus.
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Bigandrewgold said:
Have fun getting a virus.
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Is this true?
vargo911 said:
Is this true?
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It just seems fishy doesn't it?
To me, you would think this, being a pretty big development, would break here on XDA.
While I am hoping its true, as I am holding off until something like this is released, it just seems a little to good to be true.
But go for it if you want!
Just follow a guide on here, it's pretty much dead simple to unlock your bootloader through HTC. I highly doubt this is legit but in the time it took you to make this post and wring your hands about it you could have unlocked the bootloader, rooted and installed a custom rom.
netstal trembley
im not saying its not legit but, like said a couple of posts above, if it was legit, i'd think it would be xda by now
My theory - If no one has commented anything at all and there's no one to vouch for it, don't become the martyr or the first victim.
I'm happy about the feed back from you guys. This is the reason I posted it here, because I knew someone would have a good insight about this topic.
I'm staying away
Thanks
Any idea when the new root will be out for the OTA? I get my DNA on Monday....
rogerwalker22 said:
Any idea when the new root will be out for the OTA? I get my DNA on Monday....
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really?
beaups said:
really?
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Yeah get on it beaups
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Click the download button and it says right there that it won't work. Only supports android up 4.0.3, and no HTC devices although they hope to support them in the future. It's virus free according the VirusTotal, but I still wouldn't use it on a supported phone without confirmation from someone else that it won't ruin it.
Hi, I'm one of the people behind the development of One Click Root. I can assure you our software does not contain viruses or any other malicious code.
The poster above me is correct. We currently don't have support for HTC devices as we're still working on a few of the finer details of automating HTCDev.com bootloader unlocking. We do hope to add support for HTC devices in the near future, along with a number of the most popular new devices on the latest ICS and Jelly Bean OS versions.
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Hi, I'm one of the people behind the development of One Click Root. I can assure you our software does not contain viruses or any other malicious code.
The poster above me is correct. We currently don't have support for HTC devices as we're still working on a few of the finer details of automating HTCDev.com bootloader unlocking. We do hope to add support for HTC devices in the near future, along with a number of the most popular new devices on the latest ICS and Jelly Bean OS versions.
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And yet you have a download for the DNA, instructions for it, and a guarntee it will work.
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Axon 7 source code

Source code released at opensource.ztedevice.com
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Source code released at opensource.ztedevice.com
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I tried finding it, but couldn't. Which one?
Under Category Smartphone / Product ZTE A2017U
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Under Category Smartphone / Product ZTE A2017U
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I've made a mistake while searching for the model number, now I see this is the correct one. Thanks.
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Source code released at opensource.ztedevice.com
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This is good news.
Progress!
Alright, we could start seeing some progress on root/custom ROMs soon. With those things, I'd have no reason whatsoever to even consider the OnePlus 3
Just the kernel I think.
Does this include everything needed for a custom ROM? Camera HAL? Fingerprint sensor driver?
This isn't progress. This is kernel source. Axon Pro's kernel source was also released.
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This isn't progress. This is kernel source. Axon Pro's kernel source was also released.
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Except this time around they're actually considering unlocking the bootloader. With everything they announced thus far, it seems like it could really be true. Of course, they can always change their mind about it later.
dennis96411 said:
Except this time around they're actually considering unlocking the bootloader. With everything they announced thus far, it seems like it could really be true. Of course, they can always change their mind about it later.
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hes pretty much saying though we arent any better off than we were yersterday.
aknotts415 said:
hes pretty much saying though we arent any better off than we were yersterday.
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Wouldn't this help with development if the bootloader does get unlocked? Obviously it's useless to us at the moment if half of us still don't have the phone in our hands.
dennis96411 said:
Wouldn't this help with development if the bootloader does get unlocked? Obviously it's useless to us at the moment if half of us still don't have the phone in our hands.
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it does but looking back on ZTE's history it doesnt tell is if the bootloader unlock is still coming or who knows.
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dennis96411 said:
Wouldn't this help with development if the bootloader does get unlocked? Obviously it's useless to us at the moment if half of us still don't have the phone in our hands.
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If you wanted to compile your own kernel, sure. There is nothing here to base a rom off of though. Bottom line is its useless without a boot loader unlock, no matter how many of us have the phone in our hands.
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If you wanted to compile your own kernel, sure. There is nothing here to base a rom off of though. Bottom line is its useless without a boot loader unlock, no matter how many of us have the phone in our hands.
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That's pretty much a given. I was talking about a scenario with the bootloader unlocked.
dennis96411 said:
Does this include everything needed for a custom ROM? Camera HAL? Fingerprint sensor driver?
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The kernel source code is what's needed from the manufacturer for custom Roms. Everything else can be extracted from the device. This can give a developer a headstart on device trees before the bootloader unlock.
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anyone able to view the site still ? Looks like they took it down, they might have posted it alittle to soon lol
musicdjm said:
anyone able to view the site still ? Looks like they took it down, they might have posted it alittle to soon lol
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It's slow, but still up for me.
That's a good start now we just need someone to come out and play around with it.

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