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Ok...so I've been putting off updating my vibrant to a custom rom for awhile now. I know there is lots of info on how to install a custom rom...but I'm wondering what everyone does to prepare?
1. How do you backup your apps? Titanium? Just reinstall from market?
2. Other than installed apps, what other stuff do you backup?
3. Is there a way to do a 100% backup(like an image) so I can go back to my phone a it is right now? If for some reason I wanted to...
4. What else needs to be done to prepare before starting the update process?
5. How long does it usually take to backup, install new rom and then tweak and reinstall everything to get you back to where you were before beginning?
Thanks fort any help or even helpful links if you have any...!
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1. yes titanium.
3. nandroid backup does that.
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bobn4burton said:
Ok...so I've been putting off updating my vibrant to a custom rom for awhile now. I know there is lots of info on how to install a custom rom...but I'm wondering what everyone does to prepare?
1. How do you backup your apps? Titanium? Just reinstall from market?
2. Other than installed apps, what other stuff do you backup?
3. Is there a way to do a 100% backup(like an image) so I can go back to my phone a it is right now? If for some reason I wanted to...
4. What else needs to be done to prepare before starting the update process?
5. How long does it usually take to backup, install new rom and then tweak and reinstall everything to get you back to where you were before beginning?
Thanks fort any help or even helpful links if you have any...!
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I typically flash in this order if things:
1. Update all my apps.
2. Open titanium backup and update busybox and check settings (i have my backup folder set to "/sdcard/external_sd/TitaniumBackup" cause I like everything on my external sd card.
3. Check filters in TB set to all.
4. Run batch "Backup all apps + all system data" (i have about 150-200 apps installed at any given time, it does take a while to process that many apps, so i make sure that "settings> applications> development> keep screen awake while plugged in." is checked.
5. Reboot into clockwork recovery and perform a Nandroid backup if you so desire, and then flash disable_voodoo if you have it and reboot.
6. Walk away for 20 minutes while voodoo is disabled, then reboot.
7. Boot back into recovery and flash a custom rom.
8. Enable voodoo and reboot for voodoo conversion then into rom.
9. Reboot again after letting freshly installed rom sit untouched for ten minutes or so then open market sign in to google account.
10. Open TB and settings were set to auto sync so were good to go after it loads all info from os. Run batch of your choice but I start with restore all user apps w/ data, then restore system data.
11. Once all is done reboot into recovery and delete cache's and reboot.
This is just what I do, I rarely make a nandroid backup image because I've yet to every need to restore from one and I've ben flashing since my htc dreem, feel free to critic.
-Buhler
EDIT: it usually takes a cpl hours to be back to normal operation where you have everything setup the way you had it.
EDIT: I also didn't mention that I also backup and restore my adw settings. (but not till after the second boot when I log in to google.)
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Current Rom: axura
Previous Rom: nerov3
Voodoo ext4
Storage: 8GB class 6
Working Front Facing Camera
Latest Clockwork Recovery
Constantly restoring 200+ apps cause I'm addicted to flashing.
the only thing i don't agree with the above post, is backing up and restoring your system data with titanium. if you inadvertantly restore system data to a different rom, it can cause lots of problems. there are a few pieces of system data that are safe, but not all. the system data i have successfully moved without problems from rom to rom are:
Bluetooth Pairings
[Bookmarks] Browser
[Calendar] Calendar Storage
[User Dict] com.android.providers.userdictionary
[Contacts/calls] Contacts Storage
and
Wifi Access points
Basically in titanium, the system data listed in green should be safe to restore, anything in red, let it be.
Br1cK'd said:
the only thing i don't agree with the above post, is backing up and restoring your system data with titanium. if you inadvertantly restore system data to a different rom, it can cause lots of problems. there are a few pieces of system data that are safe, but not all. the system data i have successfully moved without problems from rom to rom are:
Bluetooth Pairings
[Bookmarks] Browser
[Calendar] Calendar Storage
[User Dict] com.android.providers.userdictionary
[Contacts/calls] Contacts Storage
and
Wifi Access points
Basically in titanium, the system data listed in green should be safe to restore, anything in red, let it be.
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Yeah your right, Im selective when restoring system data, I typically only restore:
Bluetooth Pairings
[User Dict] Bluetooth Pairings
[User Dict] com.android.providers.userdictionary
[sms/mms prefs] Messaging
[sms/mms/apn] dialer storage
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Current Rom: axura
Previous Rom: nerov3
Voodoo ext4
Storage: 8GB class 6
Working Front Facing Camera
Latest Clockwork Recovery
Constantly restoring 200+ apps cause I'm addicted to flashing.
Br1cK'd said:
Basically in titanium, the system data listed in green should be safe to restore, anything in red, let it be.
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The items in red and with a check mark icon won't restore anything because there's no data according to the legend... I don't know why their included in the list? Or am i missing something. I'm sure there's a thread for this topic somewhere and I would look If I wasn't so gd lazy! haha but anyway I haven't had any problems restoring select system items in TB when restoring apps and data after a custom rom install. I've flashed between all the major roms on xda since the phone's release.
Thanks for commenting on my post.
-buhler
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Current Rom: axura
Previous Rom: nerov3
Voodoo ext4
Storage: 8GB class 6
Working Front Facing Camera
Latest Clockwork Recovery
Constantly restoring 200+ apps cause I'm addicted to flashing.
Awesome buhlerbuhler! Thanks for the very detailed steps... I think I'll follow tory steps when I install nero 3!
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Here's a new one. Searched and couldn't find.
I was on ICZen 1.3, and ran a batch backup on all user apps on Titanium Backup.
I should point out that some time ago on this ROM, I did flash the datafix_11032012.zip file. I felt this could be important information in the discussion.
I then reset/wiped/formatted and flashed ICZen 1.4 goodness. Waited, rebooted. Fixed Permissions, rebooted. I'm good to go to restore my apps+data.
But on the first couple that I restored (Angry Birds Space, among them), I tried to launch and immediately got a Force Close message "Unfortunately, Angry Birds Space has stopped"
This only happens when I try to restore with data. If I restore "app only", the app launches. But if I try to restore with data (even if "data only"), the app FC.
It's not a bad ROM download or flash. I've checked the md5 and even reflashed. Even went back to ICZ 1.3. Same result.
Being this is a data issue, I think the datafix file may have something to do with it. Who knows?
Any ideas here?
Two things. Did you do the data fix on RC1.4 (was it a clean install)? and I always suggest NOT doing batch backups with TB. Sure it saves time but in my past experiences, it cause more problems than it solves.
Try this. Go into TB and hit Preferences, then scroll all the way to the bottom and hit Troubleshooting. Once that opens, tick the Follow All Symbolic Links and see if that work.
Might have to wipe data and caches since you already tried to restore. Maybe not though. See if you can uninstall some app (I do not suggest useing AGB Space as a tester, it is a little wonky) and then reinstall it with the tweak above.
Woodrube said:
Two things. Did you do the data fix on RC1.4 (was it a clean install)? and I always suggest NOT doing batch backups with TB. Sure it saves time but in my past experiences, it cause more problems than it solves.
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I did not do the datafix on 1.4. You think I should?
Woodrube said:
Try this. Go into TB and hit Preferences, then scroll all the way to the bottom and hit Troubleshooting. Once that opens, tick the Follow All Symbolic Links and see if that work.
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Already tried this.
Woodrube said:
Might have to wipe data and caches since you already tried to restore. Maybe not though. See if you can uninstall some app (I do not suggest useing AGB Space as a tester, it is a little wonky) and then reinstall it with the tweak above.
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I've uninstalled/restored and even redownloaded from the play store/market. The app launches with no data, but whenever I try to restore the data (via TBu) that's when it FC. I have just tried this on another app (Pandora). Same result.
I think what Woodrube was trying to say after you restore the apps with data,
did you try to reboot to recovery, wipe both cache and dilvik.
when the phone starts up again you should see a msg say "optimizing apps 1 of 123" or something like, cant really remember what it said.
i'm using iczen 1.4 too , came from 1.3 but didnt do a full wipe. so far no issues, if you have a nandroid, you may just want to recovery and flash over.
I have the same problem... Without solution? =/
Same problem. Cannot find solution anywhere
would also like to see an answer. I have the same issue on my captivate
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I am experiencing the same issues. I assume you have this problem with ICS roms, because that's where I get those problems. I am currently running WEUI and half my apps are not at all working. I have also flashed back to stock, tried ICS Slim and MIUI v4, but no luck. I am also getting issues, while listening to music, where the song will keep on playing, but the app will ask me if I want to FC or wait. This has only happened recently. I really do not feel like going back to 2.2 or 2.3. Any help is greatly appreciated
Have you guys tried fixing the permissions?
That usually fixes most force close problems.
Xenoism said:
Have you guys tried fixing the permissions?
That usually fixes most force close problems.
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Tried it, but no luck. Only option now is to flash a different ics rom, and see if that works. If all else fails I can always go back to bionix.
2 questions:
1 Can you see your internalSD with a file explorer?
2 Did you try wiping /cache and /dalvik-cache and rebooting?
I find a good wipe cure many things wrong (with my phone too )
Woodrube said:
2 questions:
1 Can you see your internalSD with a file explorer?
2 Did you try wiping /cache and /dalvik-cache and rebooting?
I find a good wipe cure many things wrong (with my phone too )
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1. Yes
2. Yes, usually before I flash a different rom/reflash rom to try and fix this I wipe data and wipe cache patition and dalvik cache.
OK. The first question was to make sure you still had access to your internal and not sole sort of veiled encryption error.
Let me think about somethings and ill get back to you. I am wondering if it wouldn't be a bad idea to format /data and /system to make sure that you don't have any ghosts lurking. If you do, make sure you back up SDs contents to PC just in case.
Woodrube said:
OK. The first question was to make sure you still had access to your internal and not sole sort of veiled encryption error.
Let me think about somethings and ill get back to you. I am wondering if it wouldn't be a bad idea to format /data and /system to make sure that you don't have any ghosts lurking. If you do, make sure you back up SDs contents to PC just in case.
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All those apps are still force closing on 2.2. Could it be, because I'm restoring them from titanium backup?
I'll try to backup SD onto my Computer and then format sd. It's probably some ghost file that is causing my phone to have errors. It probably is a file that has to do with MIUI since I flashed that as it happened.
Btw thanks for trying to help
Edit: I formatted sd card, put all the files back onto sd card, restored apps with tiatnium backup, but still no luck. I even factory reset,wiped cache and dalvik cache after formatting sd, but still no luck.
Thanks everyone for trying to help. I figued out the problem. Titanium backup was causing all those apps to have issues. I uninstalled all user apps via tb and download them from the market. I am getting no force close what so ever, with dl apps from market.
Usually when that happens from TB, it is from restoring system files (they show in red in the TB list of apps).
I use it to restore user apps + data every time I flash a new ROM, but I never use it to restore system apps, and I don't have any problems with it.
Since you've already restored from the market, you could try running TB and deleting it's backup data and then running a new batch backup of user apps (and no system apps) to have the freshest copy of your apps from a working system. That should allow you to restore in the future, hopefully without issue.
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This could be a problem with using TB. TB gives you the option of restoring apps+data. If you're coming from a 2.2 rom to 4.0, you don't want to keep the data from a 2.2 rom. What you can do is restore apps without the data. That should solve your problem.
Hey all, apologies in advance if this Q is answered somewhere. After searching XDA and Google and trying to avoid posting something new, I resorted to posting.
Running Shostock 2, and I have two issues with TiBu. The first one has existed for all versions of Shockstock2 I've run, and the second one is brand new.
1) TiBu is unable to restore apps, only data. I've tried the different App Processing Modes (as is often suggested), to no avail. This is a smallish problem because it enables me to sort through the apps I really want, but I'd rather just do it in TiBu than going through market installs and then TiBu for data. Any ideas of what might be amiss?
2) New in Shostock 4.1.1 - Whenever any sort of backup occurs, many many apps and processes FC over and over (including Apex). Closing and reopening, clearing RAM, etc., don't help. The only solution I've found is restarting. Is this a bad install of Shostock, TiBu, or something I should just expect?
Thanks!
Never restore system apps
Never restore ALL apps
Only use the batch restore missing apps
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I am also running ShoStock2 and TiBu and do not have any problems. I can backup and batch restore non-system apps with no problem. As pirate already mentioned, never use TiBu for system apps.
What i usually do before installing any new ROM is to delete all my TiBu backups and do them again fresh. Have you noticed off the FCs occurs always at the same point in the restore process? It might mean a problem with a particular app.
Pirateghost said:
Never restore system apps
Never restore ALL apps
Only use the batch restore missing apps
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Yup yup. I only do user apps, never system apps.
wgoldfarb said:
I am also running ShoStock2 and TiBu and do not have any problems. I can backup and batch restore non-system apps with no problem. As pirate already mentioned, never use TiBu for system apps.
What i usually do before installing any new ROM is to delete all my TiBu backups and do them again fresh. Have you noticed off the FCs occurs always at the same point in the restore process? It might mean a problem with a particular app.
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Not restore, but the actual backup process. The TiBu backup runs (changing App Processing Mode allowed it to run without TiBu hanging), then if I interact with the phone any time after the batch backup has begun (including after the process ends), the FCs come fast and furious.
Pirateghost said:
Never restore system apps
Never restore ALL apps
Only use the batch restore missing apps
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May I ask why never restore system apps?
I currently switched from 2.3.6 coz to shostock and used system apps restore to pretty much replicate my everything to shostock.
Does it cause a bug somewhere or somethin?
Megiddo2000 said:
May I ask why never restore system apps?
I currently switched from 2.3.6 coz to shostock and used system apps restore to pretty much replicate my everything to shostock.
Does it cause a bug somewhere or somethin?
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Some system apps can be restored safely, and others can not. If you are changing base, such as you did when you installed Shostock2 from UCKK6, then many of the system apps will be different. If you installed all system apps with data, your phone would probably not even boot fully, and at the least would constantly have force closes and/or freezes and other problems on almost everything. It is usually safe to restore apps like email, Gmail, memo, Google+, etc. but when I do, I always do only one app at a time.
If you ever have fc's, freezes, or other problems, then you should reinstall and restore more carefully.
A little update, since it looks like nobody has any ideas...The FC problem occurs when any app uses super use privileges. And the problem seems to be getting worse - randomly happening even when there is no apparent reason it should. Is it possible that the install of Shostock simply didn't take and I should try again? Thanks.
The FCs happen because when you restore system apps with a backup that was made on a different ROM base many of them will no longer be compatible. You never, EVER restore system apps unless you are doing so to the same ROM that you originally made the backup on. Your phone may appear to be OK, but nagging FCs will continue to happen with no apparent reason. Your only solution at this point is a reflashing of the ROM from scratch as there is no way to fix what you've done.
Miami_Son said:
The FCs happen because when you restore system apps with a backup that was made on a different ROM base many of them will no longer be compatible. You never, EVER restore system apps unless you are doing so to the same ROM that you originally made the backup on.
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You're joking, right? Did you even read the thread or just start typing after skimming the first line? I mean, it's only 6 posts...
Your phone may appear to be OK, but nagging FCs will continue to happen with no apparent reason. Your only solution at this point is a reflashing of the ROM from scratch as there is no way to fix what you've done.
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TiBu's most recent update mentions fixing issues with batch jobs. I wonder if that was my issue.
Anyway, given the lack of knowledge on this front, I went ahead and wiped everything, flashed Shostock2 4.1.3, had the same FC issues, wiped, wiped, flashed, wiped, wiped, flashed, rebooted several times. It's now good, but still a puzzling issue. Still, there's no good explanation yet of where these FCs came from.
vijtable said:
You're joking, right? Did you even read the thread or just start typing after skimming the first line? I mean, it's only 6 posts...
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Well, genius, my response was to the guy asking why not to restore system apps with TiBu. Did you even read that? I guess I should have quoted him so that you would have no reason to make a snarky reply to someone trying to help others, but what do I know?
Titanium Backup USB Debugging
Idk why I keep getting this message "Your system settings may cause problems. To correct this, go to your phone's settings, then in "Applications" then in "Development" and tick the "USB debugging" checkbox. I already tick it but it still have the message. BTW I am on Pfittech rom and siyahkernel. Anyone know why?
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Idk why I keep getting this message "Your system settings may cause problems. To correct this, go to your phone's settings, then in "Applications" then in "Development" and tick the "USB debugging" checkbox. I already tick it but it still have the message. BTW I am on Pfittech rom and siyahkernel. Anyone know why?
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An identical question was asked just a few days ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30314962
EDIT: just as a friendly tip: you will usually get a lot more help in this forum if others can see you have made a genuine effort to search for answers to your problem before you post.
So yesterday I updated to 4.3 and now when using Titanium backup it restores the app but when launching the app It force closes and in the notification bar it says "Security Notice An attempt to access a secure area on your phone without autorization has been blocked. Make sure your phone is protected by updating the security policy to the latest version from samsung." Then has a button for Update policy or cancel and updating the policy doesnt fix it.
So now that you have the story let me tell you exactly what I did to update it.
I followed this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
Then when I went to do the OTA it failed and I was thinking it was because of safestrap and that i still had a rom installed on rom slot 1. So I started over and once I installed VRUDMI1 I did a factory wipe of data just so its fresh(i think thats where i went wrong but i dont know). SO then i continued with the instructions in the link above and got 4.3 installed.
Any Idea why i cant restore? Im thinking it has to do with the app permissions because when I install from store and accept the permissions the app works but i cant restore my data.
Anyone?
Same Issue
Yes, anybody? I've had this same issue and worked around it, I just can't keep entering the data in all my apps.
It started when I went from stock on my S4 to Hyperdrive RLS12. The first time I witnessed this, it was annoying, but I figured it was simply because of differences in the stock vs custom (like deodexed vs odexed) making the backups in-compatible. BTW, I am using stock slot. Don't like the whole fake slot thing taking up space, especially when I'm no newbie with installing ROMs.
Well, I went from RLS12->13, same issue. Just did RLS13->14, same issue.
So here's what I just did (and always do). I've installed different ROMs on different phones countless times over the past few years, TB has never failed me in this process until now:
- Did nandroid backup of current ROM
- Took screenshots of important settings, etc.
- Did a TB of my USER apps I want to restore, sync'd to DropBox
- Recovery, full whipe (data/cache/dalvik/etc)
- Install new ROM version
- After first start, FIRST thing I do is re-install TB and license, so I can open it and let it detect my changed device id and restore it.
- After reboot, restore things, including app+data of certain apps from TB
But every time with my S4, I get the same things as ponzi314, if I install App only, it works. If I restore app+data or just data (after installing from market) the app will just go to a blank screen for a few seconds then crash. Even if I clear data at this point, the app won't work. I have to actually un-install/re-install the app.
What gives? It's frustrating given the number of times I've used this process with TB successfully. I'm going back to my nandroid backup for now until I can solve this. Thanks.
Download TB Restore Fixer from the Play Store. It worked for me.
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ponzi314 said:
So yesterday I updated to 4.3 and now when using Titanium backup it restores the app but when launching the app It force closes and in the notification bar it says "Security Notice An attempt to access a secure area on your phone without autorization has been blocked. Make sure your phone is protected by updating the security policy to the latest version from samsung." Then has a button for Update policy or cancel and updating the policy doesnt fix it.
So now that you have the story let me tell you exactly what I did to update it.
I followed this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
Then when I went to do the OTA it failed and I was thinking it was because of safestrap and that i still had a rom installed on rom slot 1. So I started over and once I installed VRUDMI1 I did a factory wipe of data just so its fresh(i think thats where i went wrong but i dont know). SO then i continued with the instructions in the link above and got 4.3 installed.
Any Idea why i cant restore? Im thinking it has to do with the app permissions because when I install from store and accept the permissions the app works but i cant restore my data.
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Make sure "unknown app" is checked in settings and download root checker to verify if your phone is rooted.
It works!
riker147 said:
Download TB Restore Fixer from the Play Store. It worked for me.
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Thanks, that's was exactly what I needed!