[Q] Downgrading from SPL 1.16 Hard - Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development

Hi,
I have a touch dual running 6.1 which I unlocked but installed the incorrect radio back onto so now it doesn't ring.
After unlocking I upgraded sspl 1.16.exe and now have spl 1.16 hard which won't let me install the radio version I need 1.58.16.27 (this version is running on another phone with the same set up but is locked.)
I have seen with on these pages instructions like run uspl then spl1.15 but these don't seem to work for me. I flashed the rom but still have spl 1.16 hard although I am informed that the device is "Test only not for sale" on boot up.
Is there a sure fire way of downgrading or is there a way of reinstalling the correct radio in spl 1.16.
Am I doing something completely wrong. Thanks for any and all information.

b1968 said:
Hi,
I have a touch dual running 6.1 which I unlocked but installed the incorrect radio back onto so now it doesn't ring.
After unlocking I upgraded sspl 1.16.exe and now have spl 1.16 hard which won't let me install the radio version I need 1.58.16.27 (this version is running on another phone with the same set up but is locked.)
I have seen with on these pages instructions like run uspl then spl1.15 but these don't seem to work for me. I flashed the rom but still have spl 1.16 hard although I am informed that the device is "Test only not for sale" on boot up.
Is there a sure fire way of downgrading or is there a way of reinstalling the correct radio in spl 1.16.
Am I doing something completely wrong. Thanks for any and all information.
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Don't worry buddy, just flash a rom with a radio, or flash another radio and your device will ring again, for Niki roms with radio take a look HERE
Goodluck,

Worked a charm
Thanks for taking the time.
Ben

Related

Downgrade to Radio: 1.06.00.00

Hello,
I have a SPV M3100 and I upgraded to WM6. I flashed the spl and radio and followed the upgrade guide...
I want to put back my old spl and radio so I can send it back to Orange.
Before I had:
SPL: 1.04
Radio: 1.06.00.00
OS: Orange UK ROM
Now I have:
SPL: 1.40olipro
Radio: 1.38
OS: Orange UK ROM
The Orange UK ROM I used was the Reconstructed one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=278060&page=3
Stupidly, to put back everything I flashed spl 1.10.oli then flashed the full ROM but kept getting noGSM and then getting stuck in boot.
To get it working I had to upgrade to spl 1.40olipro again and flash radio 1.38...
I then extracted the radio from the ROM (as its the one I need) and tried flashing it with that but still had same noGSM error.
How can I get 1.06.00.00??? on the WIKI 1.06 is unavailable (which is why I extracted it from the ROM)
In the 'Standard Method' here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
it says... "Your device MUST be running bootloader version 1.04 to upgrade the radio with these:"
Can anyone advice me on this??? I do need SPL1.04 anyway as thats what orange shipped with my phone...
I dont know where to get SPL1.04 and is it correct that radio 1.06 can only be flashed on SPL1.04 and thats why im getting noGSM when I do it???
Thanks Everyone, these forums are great, after thinking I bricked my phone yesturday (flashing the full UK Orange ROM) and getting noGSM it is now fixed
P.S.
If I trust the stuff in the Full Orange ROM I used.... I extracted the SPL too which says its 1.04.
I want to try flashing SPL 1.04 first then the radio, but been advised not to? Everyone says flash SPL last! But I dont see how if it says: "Your device MUST be running bootloader version 1.04 to upgrade the radio with these:"
The problem you are having is that radio 1.38.x.x will have flashed the updated Radio bootloader to HTC_BOOT 108.
Reflashing 1.06.0.0 will not downgrade the bootloader to the required 107, and afaik there currently is no way to downgrade the radio BL.
You should still be able to use the Orange ROM with the updated radio, and if you have to do a orange warranty call, it's unlikely they will complain.
@dlfranks: Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755&?p=1217676&postcount=1007
@oliber: he's wanting to go to a radio with htc_boot 0106, probably that's not possible when you've already flashed 0108. I never tried this, but it seems that two users are having the same issue, so probably once you have 0108 you can only downgrade to radios with 0107 (but keeping 0108 on your phone, that is).
thanks
thanks guys, that makes sense. I think ill try the other radio. basicly i have only had it a few days and want to try a difo phone, there happy to swap it in the first 7 days... i just dont want them complaining i messed around with it...
want to make it look as much untampered with as poss!!
at least i got the orange rom on there, it looks good.
if i get the radio to the lowest one i can, how do i go about getting spl1.04 back on my phone. i have read the hard spl threads but cant work it out. i have 1.40olipro. do i downgrade to 1.10.oli then to 1.04? or to 1.06 then 1.04. what order?
I extracted the spl1.04 rom the orange rom i used...
thanks for your help again
dlfranks said:
how do i go about getting spl1.04 back on my phone. i have read the hard spl threads but cant work it out. i have 1.40olipro. do i downgrade to 1.10.oli then to 1.04? or to 1.06 then 1.04. what order?
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first flash HardSPL-1.10, then flash 1.04. Never go to 1.06.

Begging a small tip...because of No GSM...thanks very much!!!

My Hermes is still showing No GSM. Please inform me if I got something wrong.
I have tried to upgrade the radio rom from SPL-1.40:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1321011&postcount=1337
That's wrong because HERM_Radinly_1.41.00.10_CustomRUU should be upgrade from SPL-1.04, right?
Because I have stuck on the tricolor screen, so I need to re-upgrade from HERM_Radinly_1.41.00.10_CustomRUU with the same choice of bootloader, right?
And then, I have succesfully upgraded to 1.41.00.10, but also showing No GSM, and the SPL is upgraded to 2.10 olipro after by using HardSPL V7.
And I can see "Upgrade instructions
Just download and execute these to upgrade; however it is recommended that users install HardSPL before flashing these radios.
" in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms, then...I thought that I have doing right to upgrade the radio rom to 1.43.00.00.
Yes, I have upgraded to 1.43.00.00, but my Hermes is still showing No GSM. So I found from wiki, I found http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick, in the first line of the table, yes, I can boot the OS and no GSM, so I flash Hard SPL and update the rom from 1.43.00.00 to 1.40.30.00, but it showing No GSM also.
Then, I tried 1.07.03.10, no GSM also.
After that, I found I have missed a important sentance, "You can now do radio only upgrades in Bootloaders other than SPL 1.04.". Then, I try to found how can I downgrade SPL from 2.10 to 1.04. Thanks for Martinhdk and shogunmark, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1330247#post1330247.
down to 1.10 by choosing bootloader, not success....
after use Force by SSPL, success!!
and then down to 1.04 by choosing bootloader, not success....
first time not success when using SSPL....
second time also....
down to 1.04 by chooing bootloader again....not success
down to 1.04 by chooing bootloader and Hard-SPL....success!!!
Now...not HardSPL anymore!!!!
Then, I downgraded SPL to 1.04 successfully, checked by mtty also. Then, I can start to fix No GSM finally.
And then upgrade to 1.40.30.00 by method of RUU
but I can remember that, Upgrade instructions
Just download and execute these to upgrade; however it is recommended that users install HardSPL before flashing these radios.
install HardSPL V7, and then now is SPL-2.10.Olipro
After that, run HERM_Radinly_1.40.30.00_CustomRUU, choosing SSPL or bootloader version, failured sever times
When choosing the HardSPL and bootloader version SPL-2.10 in the second time....success!! But it is still showing No GSM.....
and... the PPC always cannot detect the USB connection....
What shoud I do now?
Do I made a big confuse on the concept of upgrading?
Please give me a small tip.....I really read many and many threads but....
I just want to use my PPC normally.....
I can see that you have certainly been searching the forums so hopefully others more knowldegable than me will help - rather than tell you to look even more as they so often do here on this site when the problem is simply inexperience for most of us.
In the meantime have you tried following the "No GSM" instructions on the Hermes Wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5? It looks like this will need even more reading but hopefully it will help. I am afraid I am not familiar with this procedure but others should be able to offer support.
I must admit I thought HardSPL was OK for all radio upgrades - but perhaps you have read more than me.
Good luck

How to reflash original SPL over SPL2.10.Olipro?

Dear All,
Could someone please tell me how to get the SPL back to original. Im planning to sell the phone and it basically needs to be completely as it were.
Thanks a million!
Kind Regards,
Henry
rakdoll said:
Dear All,
Could someone please tell me how to get the SPL back to original. Im planning to sell the phone and it basically needs to be completely as it were.
Thanks a million!
Kind Regards,
Henry
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http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
This guide will take you through downgrading the Bootloader (SPL) on your Hermes device
This guide assumes you already have flashed ROMs and Other components and you are familiar with the process.
NOTE: By downgrading your SPL version your device is more vulnerable to being permenantly bricked if a flash goes wrong, by following this guide through YOU accept responsibility for any problems faced due to this operation. As with other downgrade guides this is NOT intended as a guide for claiming the warranty of the device having flashed components which are not authorised by the manufacturer or carrier.
The downgrade will take the following steps, since HardSPL does not allow itself to be downgraded directly, nor does SSPL allow versions lower than 1.09 to be flashed.
The first step is to dowgrade to SPLversion 1.10.oli. Firstly download this archive and extract the files to a temporary folder, connect your device up via the USB port and allow it to connect to activesync. Run "RUUWrapper.exe" which will fire up the RUU program:
Select 'Force SSPL' and continue the flashing process as usual.
Allow the flashing process to take place and your device will reboot.
Now check the SPL has been changed by entering bootloader mode, press and hold the side ok and power buttons then insert the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device. Your SPL version should now read "1.10.oli".
The next step is to download the SPL you wish to finally downgrade to:
SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00)
SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)
Again extract the contents to a temporary folder and connect your device to activesync via USB. Run "RUUWrapper" in this new folder.
Select the RED OPTION, and TICK THE BOX.
Then flash as normal.
This will flash the final SPL version onto your device.
Verify your SPL version once this has completed by allowing the device to boot into windows Mobile and entering the bootloader as before.
Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 June 2007 )
Oszi said:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
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And *that* is the reason we helped you, so that now you help others. One day, rakdoll will help someone else. That is why we are all here. Nicely done!
how do I do this without being able to get access to the OS? now that is a challenge, but its what i need to do :O
revert back
this is what i used to flash mine back to enable original rom to be installed ,so i could take phone back for warrany reasons
Korpse said:
how do I do this without being able to get access to the OS? now that is a challenge, but its what i need to do :O
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Shouldn't need to access OS. You should be able to do it by putting it in BL mode... THEN plug it into the usb. Then start the updater.
Its 2.30.Olipro I need to downgrade from, and you cant overwrite olipro SPL's without using SSPL by des from inside the OS, I'm trying to find another way
Korpse said:
Its 2.30.Olipro I need to downgrade from, and you cant overwrite olipro SPL's without using SSPL by des from inside the OS, I'm trying to find another way
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2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
todd_jg said:
2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
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Thanks for the help, but MrVanx's guide uses SSPL by des (launched from inside the OS where I can't get to) to overwrite the 2.10.Olipro to get back to 1.10.Olipro, so that method wont work for me either
Korpse said:
Thanks for the help, but MrVanx's guide uses SSPL by des (launched from inside the OS where I can't get to) to overwrite the 2.10.Olipro to get back to 1.10.Olipro, so that method wont work for me either
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Oh interesting. A nuance I hadn't picked up on. So, when using the Force using SSPL" option in the flashing utility, you must be able to access the Phone OS? That surprises me, I thought that the RUU utility would put it on the phone even in BL mode and execute it? Hmm... strange. I guess if it is an exe, it needs the OS to run, though. Sort of makes sense. Sorry about the misdirection.
todd_jg said:
2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
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Hi,
I'm trying to downgrade to the original SPL (I'm trying to get hold of 2.03 but can't seem to find it), so am using 1.06. I've been able to downgrade to Oli1.10 from Oli2.10, but it won't go back to 1.06 from there, after the RUU says successfully completed the SPL is still the same.
Any ideas?
Cheers
downgrade phone for rogers warranty
Hi Guys,
I need to downgrade my phone as well for warranty purposes. Unfortunately Mrvanx's guide is offline at present. Can any one of you give little further detail about what I need to get back to orginal rom/radio/spl and bootloader. Or in shor to be able to send it back for warranty. I do have a new Rogers phone if that can be of any help.
It is from Rogers and currently my boot loader screen says following:
HERM200
IPL-1.04
HERM200
SPL-2.10.Olipro
Under Device Information:
ROM version: FARIA.R-32
ROM date: 11/06/07
Radio version 1.54.07.00
Protocol Version 32.86u.7020.23H
ExtROM version: BIGSTORAGE
My replacement Rogers Phone has following:
HERM200
IPL-1.01
HERM200
SPL-1.11
Under Device Information:
ROM version: 1.34.631.14
ROM date: 04/17/07
Radio version 1.42.00.00
Protocol Version 32.75.7020.18H
Can anyone please tell me if it is even possible to do this downgrade.
Thanks
B.
why dont you just brick the phone if you are worried about them complaining over the boot loader version. If you cant access the phone i doubt they will be able (or even be bothered) to
Could you please let me know what you did? Did you downgrade To the original Rogers Radio and SPL ? Do you by any chance have all the original Rogers files (WM5, SPL, Radio,...)?
I am with Rogers too and just unlocked SIM (not CID) and installed WM6 (official HTC)
I am wondering how I could lock SIM again if I need to return the phone for Rogers warranty? or unlocking SIM does NOT void the Rogers warranty?
Thanks
Downgrade to SPL 1.11
Hi is anyone able to figure out how to downgrade from SPL 2.10 Olipro to SPL 1.11? I have tried Mr Vanx guide but at the end of the process, I get Error 260. Not sure if I am doing anything wrong.
Do I have to downgrade to SPL1.10 Olipro, before I downgrade to SPL 1.11?
Thanks
I am having some issues downgrading back to an original SPL. I've searched throughout the site and have found a lot of conflicting advice, although this thread seems to be the most relevant.
I started out the process with SPL: 2.10.Olipro
I downgraded to 1.10.oli.
This process was successful in that the bootloader screen now says that the SPL version is 1.10.oli.
Now, when I try to flash the OEM version of SPL, the phone asks the following question:
You would like to run jumpspl.exe
If I say yes, the screen goes gray and says load... but I end up with a 260 error.
I have tried turning off the usb connection in the active sync and starting from the bootloader as mentioned here, but that just ends up giving me a 264 error.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers,
~Hat
* edit *
Post #5 from here fixed the issue.
Oszi said:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
This guide will take you through downgrading the Bootloader (SPL) on your Hermes device
<snip>
The downgrade will take the following steps, since HardSPL does not allow itself to be downgraded directly, nor does SSPL allow versions lower than 1.09 to be flashed.
The first step is to dowgrade to SPLversion 1.10.oli. Firstly download this archive and extract the files to a temporary folder, connect your device up via the USB port and allow it to connect to activesync. Run "RUUWrapper.exe" which will fire up the RUU program:
Select 'Force SSPL' and continue the flashing process as usual.
Allow the flashing process to take place and your device will reboot.
Now check the SPL has been changed by entering bootloader mode, press and hold the side ok and power buttons then insert the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device. Your SPL version should now read "1.10.oli".
The next step is to download the SPL you wish to finally downgrade to:
SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00)
SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)
Again extract the contents to a temporary folder and connect your device to activesync via USB. Run "RUUWrapper" in this new folder.
Select the RED OPTION, and TICK THE BOX.
Then flash as normal.
This will flash the final SPL version onto your device.
Verify your SPL version once this has completed by allowing the device to boot into windows Mobile and entering the bootloader as before.
Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 June 2007 )
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Okay, Im back to 1.10oli, but how do I know if I need to go back to SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00) or SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)?
OK people, please tell me you have looked at the updated guide right??
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=27
Yes, but the choices are,
1.04
1.06
1.09
1.11
2.03
and I don't know how to tell which one is stock for my phone. I assume I need 1.04 since my bootloader says IPL-1.00 but I'm not sure because I know that used to say IPL-1.04, and since it appears that that can change for some reason, I want to make sure I get this right so I can get this waranteed. Im going to sell it on ebay and get the new HTC Fuze as soon as AT&T releases it.

Radio rom upgrade?

Hello,
Just unlocked both sim and cid, and installed tnt 1933 touch flo rom, no problems on the install, expect for that my cell phone does not work.
I know I might have to update the radio rom, and anyone please explain the procedure and the file needed, read, but confused.
current:
G4
ipl 2.21.001
spl 2.21.olip
gsm 02.25.11
os 11.0.0.1
s.thakur
I just upgrade and notice the bug too. My phone works sometime, but I cant end the call! and some sms are not being rec'd.
TNT.1933 is known to have problems for some Radio ROMs.
Either choose other ROM or try other Radio ROMs until the problem goes away (There is no recommended radio version because it depends on your carrier)
For what I know, this is link to the newest Radio ROM available (2.71.11).
In the thread it's written it is g4 safe.
So I think you can flash it to your device plain and simple.
But I am not pretty sure if you need to use the RUU provided or the Mun's RUU from the Hard SPL thread...
EDIT:
I have flawlessy performed Radio upgrade to 2.71.11
I can now confirm it's g4 safe... just start the romupdateutility and follow the instructions...
No need to change RUU from the one included in rar archive for my G4 HardSPL.

phone is stuck at htc screen and it says no radio

i installed the wrong rom on the wrong hard spl. i had the hard spl a 1.30 installed and dcd 3.2.0. now the screen is stuck at the loading screen that says htc smart mobility. and no radio at the bottom. please help and the phone wont sync.
Good luck on that.. You installed a bootloader for a different model -- likely the TyTn or Trinity. What phone do you have? What instructions did you follow?
If you do have a Titan, then possibly via the SD Card you can change the bootloader to the new 2.47 (I haven't played with it yet but another may provide a solution). You are likely out of luck in flashing to any of the other Titan bootloaders as you must be able to boot into the OS, but with you error of installing an inappropriate bootloader you are out of luck there.
no it was a bootloader 1.30 for the titan
Your information is incoherent.
What rom/bootloader did you have prior to updating?
What rom/bootloader did you try to upgrade to?
You need a minimum SPL of 2.40 to install DCD 3.2.0
I use 2.47 from no2chem and it works great. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=30561
Are you able to boot up the device? If so copy the SPL 2.47 to the card then to the PDA and run it from there.
If not, put the PDA into Bootloader mode and try to install Olipro 2.40
http://www.lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/titan/spl/titan_SPL_2.40-olipro.exe
Failing that you can try to flash back to an official ROM if you have one.
You need to soft reset your phone while holding the Camera and power buttons. This will force your phone in to the bootloader. You should then be able to reflash to lower ROM. Then you need to search for Olipro or whatever the 2.40 bootloader is. Your best bet after that is to flash the official Sprint 3.35 Radio and Rom then flash to DCD's.
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Sorry Hamilton didn't realize you gave a link to the 2.40 bootloader.
If he is sure that it is "bootloader 1.30 for the titan" then I know of NO such bootloader. He has likely installed the wrong bootloader (for another device) and therefore no amount of flashing to an OS ROM will help him boot into the OS. Unless via an SD card for 2.47, beastmode216 is stuck with a borked device.
So, beastmode216, I'll ask again, where did you get such instructions and where did you source your bootloader 1.30?
What is one of the earlier bootloaders? I was thinking my Mogul orginally had something like 1.30 or 1.40.
thanks guys but the problem is solved. just make the phone go in to the bootloader
Verizon stock bootloader is 1.30 if I remember correctly. It has been several months since I have seen a stock bootloader
calash said:
Verizon stock bootloader is 1.30 if I remember correctly. It has been several months since I have seen a stock bootloader
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My mistake, as pointed out by gc14 the stock bootloader is 1.04.
Ahh, ok, my fault as I thought that he had also installed a bootloader under the name of 1.30.. That could've been an unlocker for a TyTn or another device.
Correct, OEM bootloader should be 1.30.60.
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This is incorrect. The stock bootloader is 1.04. The stock radio is 1.30.60.
SPL 1.30 does NOT exist for the Titan.
Stickies exist for a reason...to read them as they contain valid, useful information. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392133

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