I have researched this and am getting more confused by the minute. I have installed Bionix Final stock and I am considering going back to ji6. I have read that I must flash the ji6 kernel even though I dont believe that bionix changed the kernel. When and how must this be done? After flashing to ji6? I would most appreciate it if someone could tell me the steps taken to flash just the kernel or if that is even necessary and also if I can just flash through Clockwork to go back to stock ji7 when Froyo is sent OTA. Would it be safer or easier to just use Odin? Any and all replies are most appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733792
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thanks for the reply but I read this thread and still am confused. Sorry I am not as informed or astute as you are. Let me mention I am a complete nubie and am looking for simple steps or instructions or answers. I am continuing to search the threads for more information. Its becoming evident to me that I should never have flashed Bionix Final as it appears that there is not a lot of support or help for nubies who have questions and do not understand some of the procedures or terms.
Bionix fusion is based on ji6. It does not actually use the ji6 kernel. It is using a modified jfd kernel so I would not recommend flashing ji6 kernel over the top of it. If you would like to go back to the stock ji6 I recomend odin back to it. But if you wanted you could use jacs kernel or kings kernel if your not happy. Fusion also came in three flavors stock, jacs, kings.
Friends don't let friends flash drunk...
Thanks so much for the helpful reply. Does Bionix final have the same kernel as the fusion does? I am on Bionix Final. I will use Odin to flash back to ji6. Would I use just the tar and pit or do I have to repartition as well? It seems the swype keyboard I am so fond of will not go into landscape mode nor will any of the other keyboards. I have checked the settings and can find nothing that would affect this situation. That is one of the reasons I am contemplating going back to ji6. thanks again for the help and kindness. any info on my other questions is greatly appreciated.
All the bionix roms are using the modified jfd kernel. Im using bionix final r1 and im not having any problems with swipe. I find it to be the best touchwiz rom out there. If you do want to go back to stock use the 512 pit amd the ji6 tar and you don't have to check the repartition box. But if your like me and flash lots of roms I would check the box to get all the ghosts out of the closets (fix force closer issues).
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Thanks again. I will put your information to good use. I may stay on bionix final for a while longer. I am overjoyed that I now have the correct procedures to flash back when the time comes. Many thanks and Blessings.
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Ok can someone answer a few questions for me I have a stock vibrant with a stock 2.6.29 kernel and would like to flash a new kernel so I can begin overclocking but I would also like to flash back to my original kernel just in case can anyone explain how to make a back up or do this any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
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so you have a stock Vibrant...you wanna overclock?
Are you rooted? Im pretty sure that too run a different kernel you need a diffrent rom other than the stock JFD.
You might get more answers if you posted in the right section.
Its the ji6 I think
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dont bother giving him crap just help the guy. mods can clean it up and move it later.
ok well 1st off - know that what your about to do can potentially brick or damage your device and that myself,xda,jesus, mary and the hly ghost, the hobo behind the walmart and your aunt frank have nothing to do with this so you can only blame yourself
i would get to know ODIN real well first off. make sure you are able to get into download mode. via the hardware method OR ADB
use the Vibrant bible to find info on that.
I apologize guys I'm assuming this belongs in q&a
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Ok can someone answer a few questions for me I have a stock vibrant with a stock 2.6.29 kernel and would like to flash a new kernel so I can begin overclocking but I would also like to flash back to my original kernel just in case can anyone explain how to make a back up or do this any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
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Not trying to be a wiseguy but:
Read the "Vibrant directory ( Bible ) and search this forum. Look for the subjects you're interested in. All questions are answered you just need to study before you start.
Learn how to use odin - if you follow the links you will have everything you need to get back to stock in an emergency.
Read about and learn how to use one click root.
Read about and learn how to use Rom Manager to flash roms
Use Titanium backup to backup your apps
Good luck and have fun!
Ok real quick I have odin I have the stock vibrant rom from xda I am pretty good with this stuff just new to this phone I also have a few roms but kinda wanna wait for 2.2 but would like a new kernel I have rom manager and a back up of my rom but I am having a problem getting adb to work just been using the terminal apk but I need help.with this and thank you for your time
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And I do have titanium back with everything backed up
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im currently rolling TeamWhiskeys Obsidian V2
its a 2.2 Froyo based off the tmobile leak
everything works as it should and its fast and very stable.
OP you need to spend a couple hours reading and understanding several things. Most if not all you need is in the vibrant bible thread. If you can't get adb to work its almost always the driver. Must understand odin just in case something goes wrong. Its hard to truely brick this phone but not impossible.
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O I have been reading alot and its taking me several weeks to decide to do this cause I would, like to grab the ota once they release it
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ok well 1st off - know that what your about to do can potentially brick or damage your device and that myself,xda,jesus, mary and the hly ghost, the hobo behind the walmart and your aunt frank have nothing to do with this so you can only blame yourself
i would get to know ODIN real well first off. make sure you are able to get into download mode. via the hardware method OR ADB
use the Vibrant bible to find info on that.
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In other words, take 5 min to do a little research.
Sent from Vibrant Frankin Twiz Update3 JI2 modem.bin jac kernel with voodoo lagfix on XDA app with no fc's FINALLY!
Echo,echo...read the Bible. And also the Tips and Tricks thread. Basically all the ones that are Stickies. I came from a stock blackberry with no knowledge and I've successfuly flashed at several Roms and kernels and soft bricked a few times. The stickies saved me.
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If I make a back up of my rom using manager can I flash that and go back to my old kernel
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Echo,echo...read the Bible. And also the Tips and Tricks thread. Basically all the ones that are Stickies. I came from a stock blackberry with no knowledge and I've successfuly flashed at several Roms and kernels and soft bricked a few times. The stickies saved me.
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jmartiuk said:
If I make a back up of my rom using manager can I flash that and go back to my old
No, that only saves your data and apps. You need to save it or you can use the ones located in the vibrant library. You can always revert back to stock using odin but do so AT YOUR OWN RISK... Good luck
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The Bible is the greatest thing EVER.
Just seriously use how to use Odin. If you can learn how to get into download mode consistently and connect to odin successfully you will be fine. Then learn how to use recocery, which is very easy on the vibrant. you just install ROM manager from the market and flash clockwork mod recovery. learn how to backup and restore and you can flash things through recovery. Zips are for recovery, and Tar files are for Odin. If you want to OC i recommend "Corev2" by team whiskey (since JAC has dissapeared) which works with most ROMs and should work well with stock rooted. There is Odin files and zip files for stock kernels, jfd and ji6, which you could just flash over if you dont like it. Nandroid backups dont backup kernels, so make sure you have the right kernel on when you restore something. You can find everything in the BIBLE like everyone has told you to try. One word of the wise, if you load a Froyo 2.2 on your phone and then revert back to 2.1, make sure you flash a 2.1 kernel first before you restore. So many people think they brick after they do that.
And usually if you are waiting for official firmware, it appears here on XDA ready to flash (i flashed official ji6 before it was availible OTA) at some point. I would recommend you use a rooted ji6 ROM with Corev2 (and possibly the ji2 modem to save battery life but i like the ji6 modem) this will let you OC and UV without setcpu. this is kind of a scattered response but im just trying to help. I am running AOSP jk2 1.1 by Anderdroid and i LOVE IT.
It looks like you have everything ready on your phone.
Just learn Odin, you don't really need ADB. Make sure your phone can go into the download mode via the vol up and vol down key and connect USB cable for download mode. Its a Triangle Icon with android robot with shovel.
There you should load the Pit file and Tar file to flash back to Stock in case you brick you phone. As far as flashing ROM goes, remember this!!
If you flash a 2.1 Kernel + ROM like Fusion 1.2, and create a Nandroid backup through ClockWork. Then decided to go to a Froyo 2.2 kernel + ROM like Obsidian or MacnutR11 to try out. Do not restore Nandroid backup to 2.1, it will brick your phone requring u to ODin back to stock.
Bottom line 2.1 ROM will not work with 2.2 kernel and 2.1 kernel will not work with 2.2 ROM. Don't mix them up.
Basically if you are running a 2.1 kernel + rom, then switch to 2.2 kernel and rom. For some reason you don't like it, make sure you flash back to 2.1 kernel + rom instead of doing a nandroid restore.
Alright guys... This is my situation. I'm running the old Axura 2.2 edition. I saw some screenshots of nero v3 and and read that flashing different roms isn't that hard. The last thing I need is to brick my phone. Therefore I have some questions...
1) How do I flash a different rom from my current rom? Do I have to flash back to stock???
2) What is this Voodoo thing about? I see threads about it making your phone fast but then it can also brick while flashing????
Please help!!!!
chuckblock said:
Alright guys... This is my situation. I'm running the old Axura 2.2 edition. I saw some screenshots of nero v3 and and read that flashing different roms isn't that hard. The last thing I need is to brick my phone. Therefore I have some questions...
1) How do I flash a different rom from my current rom? Do I have to flash back to stock???
2) What is this Voodoo thing about? I see threads about it making your phone fast but then it can also brick while flashing?
???
Please help!!!!
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1) Its prob safest to flash back to stock. It gives you a clean slate to go on,
2) Voodoo is commonly called a lagfix, but its more then that. It converts your file sytem from the facory rfs to an ext 4 format. Check out supercurios thread in the development section for mere info. PLEASE make sure its disabled before flashing another rom.
3) Read thru the nero thread for proper flashing instructions.
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ok so i need to read up on Odin on how to flash back and currently going to supercurious thread... thanks!
Safest to flash back to stock (use odin), But....... you really don't have to. The risk is it might soft brick and then you would have flash back to stock..... So flash away can't hurt. Just remember if you have a lagfix on your phone disable before flashing
I have flashed from Axura 2.2 to Nero3 to heathen, to Ginger Clone and back to Axura I never flashed back to stock....... I have had no problem.......
For the most part they are from the same leak......... so the kernels are not that different.
chuckblock said:
ok so i need to read up on Odin on how to flash back and currently going to supercurious thread... thanks!
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ODIN tutorial for you...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=810130
Going back to stock is not a necessity, but advised, since some settings and fragments from a previous ROM can remain and cause issues....not always though. You can always give it a shot, disable voodoo first, then just flash Nero through CWR.
wow thank you guys soo much... you guys cleared up everything... now im comfortable!
Glad to help. Let us know how it works out.
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
Does any one have a link to the stock kernel for the eclair fascinate. Its my friends. He flashed the ec10 voodoo kernel. I have got voodoo disable but need a flashable stock eclair kernel to fix this.
Do yeah. I still need it. Ok looking through the forums now. I have found the package to Odin back to stock but would preffer to just flash the stock kernel. This fixed my mesmerize at one time. Don't know if it will work now. Any help would be appreciated
Edit. Gonna try the method in the sticky. See what that does.
The steps in the stickey fixed it. This was mostly my fault cause he asked me if the ec10 kernels was ok. Never crossed my mind he was still on eclair. Anyway got him on 2.2 using the Odin files. Love that program. Sorry for takin up a thread. I should have just done the Odin thing from the start. Lesson learned.
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I am running a stock 2.1-update1 TMO Vibrant.
I have previously run Obsidian and also some team whisky axura flavor, before going back to stock 2.2.
I had stock 2.2 until I tried to flash the newest overstock kernal last night and bricked my phone.
I had a stock 2.1 recovery laying around, so long story short I am now at 2.1 stock.
I would really like to flash the latest overstock along with a good ROM but am not sure if I should be doing it from 2.1 or if I should kies up to 2.2 and then start.
Also, this whole red CWMR thing has me thoroughly confused. Where is this mysticl red lockworkmod and how do I flash it?
I was thinking Bionix-X for my new rom, but would appreciatte some feedback or other suggestions from the community on what roms are 'best'.
Thanks for any assistance, I appreciatte all info.
baywatch said:
I am running a stock 2.1-update1 TMO Vibrant.
I have previously run Obsidian and also some team whisky axura flavor, before going back to stock 2.2.
I had stock 2.2 until I tried to flash the newest overstock kernal last night and bricked my phone.
I had a stock 2.1 recovery laying around, so long story short I am now at 2.1 stock.
I would really like to flash the latest overstock along with a good ROM but am not sure if I should be doing it from 2.1 or if I should kies up to 2.2 and then start.
Also, this whole red CWMR thing has me thoroughly confused. Where is this mysticl red lockworkmod and how do I flash it?
I was thinking Bionix-X for my new rom, but would appreciatte some feedback or other suggestions from the community on what roms are 'best'.
Thanks for any assistance, I appreciatte all info.
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Hi, ok...lets clear some stuff first:
1. The red CWM Recovery means its a VooDoo injected kernel....almost all custom ROMs and kernels have VooDoo in it so it will be red.
2. The easiest way is to upgrade to a 2.2 ROM and get the Overstock kernel is to go back to stock 2.1 (which i see you've done already) re-root....DL ROM Manager and flash CWM recovery (which will be green at first), then DL the 2.2 ROM you want, like Bionix-V 1.3.1 and put it on your sd card and flash it.....like i said almost all custom ROMs come with a red VooDoo CWM recovery....so after you flash it....it'll be red....then you can continue to flash Overstock..
Thank you for such a concise (and quick!) response, greatly appreciatted.
Or just flash malice which comes with overstock
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Hi guys, I don't have a Vibrant myself but a friend asked if I could update him to 2.2.
So,
a) Where can I download stock firmwares. *edit- found this, is it latest?
b) What are some good FULLY FUNCTIONAL roms?
I have downloaded AIO Vibrant Toolbox, will that be enough to flash from stock 2.1 or do I need Odin? I have/can use adb etc & I'm not a noob, just my 1st time looking at a Sammy phone.
TIA for any answers.
*edit 2- Wtf is JFD?
Download and install Vibrant Kies Mini from Samsung Vibrant Download Center. This will update your friend's Vibrant to the official 2.2
Thanks for the reply!
I have heard only bad things about Kies in the little research I've done so far. Is it the safest way to go?
AyDee said:
Thanks for the reply!
I have heard only bad things about Kies in the little research I've done so far. Is it the safest way to go?
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I don't know if it is the safest, but I have done it at least 5 times and it never failed me.
Try Toxic. It's really fast and stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203549
Whatever you do, do NOT do what was just suggested by Krys.
Your research isn't wrong. There's a reason that "Kies killed my phone" is the only surefire way to get warranty work done on your Vibrant. It's all kinds of bad.
As for good ROMs, you probably noticed in our Vibrant bible that there are quite a few.
Bionix 1.3.1 (untouched by me) is reportedly the most stable experience, though it hasn't been updated in some time (some would say it doesn't need updating).
Zendroid is probably the best stripped down and tweaked Froyo ROM. Touchwiz has been removed as has had pretty much all the bloatware.
If you're into theming, and don't want to make the jump to MIUI (2.3.7 Gingerbread AOSP ROM), I suggest giving Toxic8 a try. It's been stable in my experience, and the number of themes available for it are pretty extensive. It's also the newest of the Froyo ROMs, so it has all the latest tweaks.
If you need instructions on how to install (flash) them, there are multiple guides to choose from in our development and other forums.
Happy hunting! Drinks are on the house!
BIG Thanks for the quick answers.
He was wanting stock at first but I'll see what I can talk him into. I probably won't be able to give him much support after I flash so I'll definitely look at those more stable roms you mentioned, kaintfm. Gonna go "thank" another random post of yours.
Cheers.
I am using Toxic8 now after coming from a Motorola (locked bootloader with no custom kernels) however we broke it down and are in the process of developing CM7.1 for it. Not bad for a phone that had no "official" update from the manufacturer.
Anyways, like I said, I am using Toxic8 w/ Gingerbread theme and have no complaints so far. I have basically put this thing through the ringer over the last few weeks and it is holding up pretty damn good. Comes with Bali 1.2OC kernel and build.prop tweaks and V6supercharger. I like it enough to make it my "home" ROM.
I definitely agree with kaintfm on avoiding Kies. It's much easier to flash via CWM anyway. I highly recommend ZenDroid and Project-V, but what I'll be sticking with for quite some time is the Ultimate 8.2 port. Battery life is fantastic for me, and it's one of the smoothest roms I've used (previously ZenDroid). But honestly, it will all be a matter of personal preference since pretty much all the Froyo roms we have are slick and polished.
AyDee said:
Hi guys, I don't have a Vibrant myself but a friend asked if I could update him to 2.2.
So,
a) Where can I download stock firmwares. *edit- found this, is it latest?
b) What are some good FULLY FUNCTIONAL roms?
I have downloaded AIO Vibrant Toolbox, will that be enough to flash from stock 2.1 or do I need Odin? I have/can use adb etc & I'm not a noob, just my 1st time looking at a Sammy phone.
TIA for any answers.
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Your link in the Op is to KB5 (T959UVKB5) T959 is the vibrant model number, KB5 is the build number. It is the last 2.2 froyo for the vibrant. You can find the build number of what's currently on the phone in settings/about phone.
JFD (T959UVJFD) was the original build when the phone was released.
To keep the phone stock at the latest 2.2 use the link (T959UVKB5) you noted. If you have used Odin before (a samsung flashing tool) use that or you can root the phone and used the .zip file in CWM. There are links to Odin and ways to root in this forum. The Vibrant is very easy to root and Flash.
The stock KB5 is what you linked to. All the other Roms based on KB5 are good, they are pretty much just themed differently. All the 2.3 Gingerbread roms have issues (which may or may not bother you but I would not want to support some one else's phone with the issues, GPS, FC's, reboots, etc.) as they are ports from other phones
Kies Mini worked for me, and I like the SBL update.
I've used Kies Mini to update to KB5 when it first came out and I'm glad I did it. The process was smooth and easy, and the update included an update to the SBL which dramatically made my 3 buttons work great.
Many of the roms here have the SBL update taken out.
I would say if you don't have voodoo or any other stuff, and you can odin back to JFD, I would try kies mini without being too scared.
Excellent, thanks again to everyone!
I got all the info I had hoped for from all angles.
Stay classy, Vibrant forums!